Thoughts on Braves Mgr Bobby Cox?

[83Defense]

Bobby is likely a swell ol'guy... but is it time for someone to take Ol'Yeller out back, behind the shed? Here in Atlanta, it seems it's blasphemy to find ANY fault with Bobby Cox. Maybe I should try to scribble notes on outgoing freight trains to tell the free world what's going on here.

[bigboydan]

Atlanta actually has Braves fans? I never knew that since the seats were all empty during their great 1990's playoff run. Cox is a great manager that is still very underrated considering what he has to work with talent wise nowadays.

[MilfDriller]

Bobby Cox.... sounds like the kind of name Rogue might have in real life...

SCARY!!!!

[Willie Bee]

The Braves have had a great system in place from the top to the bottom of the organization, and Cox is part of what makes they system work. But at the same time, his constant chirping and whining from the bench about ball/strike calls reflects more of a spoiled adolescent instead of a grown man. I respect the job he's done within the organization, but I have very little respect for the person.

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[pavyracer]

Braves will win AL East with Kenshin Kawakami and Derrick Lowe. This is the best Braves team ever assembled.

[Fiasco]

Braves will win AL East with Kenshin Kawakami and Derrick Lowe. This is the best Braves team ever assembled.

being a longtime braves fan I personally was in love with the 95 team... and I doubt my love will be replaced this upcoming season

and bobby is the man, regardless

[pavyracer]

being a longtime braves fan I personally was in love with the 95 team... and I doubt my love will change next year

and bobby is the man, regardless

Quit living in the past pal. I'm only looking in the future.

[daggerkobe]

His piss poor managing has cost me a lot of money over the years.

I say shoot him!

[Fiasco]

Quit living in the past pal. I'm only looking in the future.

braves are rebuilding, future doesn't look half as good as the past...

you said next year they'd have the greatest team ever... I simply disagreed saying that I thought their 95 team was better (they were world champions...) and yet you think I'm living in the past?

you are extremely wise...

on paper this past year they should have contended but hampton went down after his first start and everyone else and their mamma got hurt leading to a tex trade and the start of the rebuilding process...

you can't name a better atlanta braves team then the 95 braves imo
and you definately can't say the 2009 braves... (yet)

[Chi_archie]

good guy good manager good staff..... teams have trouble winning the big games though

[Mudcat]

Thoughts on Braves Mgr Bobby Cox?

I have always wondered who he has pictures of - and what kind of nasty thing is going on in them - that has allowed Cox to keep his job in Atlanta for so long.

They had unbelievable talent - particularly pitching - for so long and there was just one playoff choke after another. Cox supporters would be quick to point out they did win one World Series - and I obviously have to grant that - but I don't care. I see those Braves teams as one of the biggest underachievers in recent memory. Think of the talent.

In a case like that, I look at the manager.

[pavyracer]

braves are rebuilding, future doesn't look half as good as the past...

you said next year they'd have the greatest team ever... I simply disagreed saying that I thought their 95 team was better (they were world champions...) and yet you think I'm living in the past?

you are extremely wise...

on paper this past year they should have contended but hampton went down after his first start and everyone else and their mamma got hurt leading to a tex trade and the start of the rebuilding process...

you can't name a better atlanta braves team then the 95 braves imo
and you definately can't say the 2009 braves... (yet)

I have faith in McCann, Francoeur and Escobar. The pitching is improved this year drastically. The Braves are a young hitting team and with veteran pitching now the wins will start piling up. As it is obvious with the constant failures of Mets, Redsox and Yankees you cannot win only with money. You need young talent and the Braves have the best young talent in MLB right now.

[Fiasco]

The thing you have to respect about the braves is they developed their talent through their farm systems and always traded/failed to resign players once they exceeded their value or seeked a big paycheck. I've always respected how the braves can let go of a player at just the right time and don't spend a yankee like sallary...

I will admit the 96, 97 and especially the 99 teams frustrated me greately with their playoff performance... (99 got swept to the yanks)

[treece]

Thoughts on Braves Mgr Bobby Cox?

He's a fat fuk.

[Fiasco]

I have faith in McCann, Francoeur and Escobar. The pitching is improved this year drastically. The Braves are a young hitting team and with veteran pitching now the wins will start piling up. As it is obvious with the constant failures of Mets, Redsox and Yankees you cannot win only with money. You need young talent and the Braves have the best young talent in MLB right now.

1b, 2b, and cf are too weak... LF is a tad weak too as I feel diaz shouldn't be a starter...(perfect fill in guy though) braves may shop yunel (looking into future) and there pitching is not anything special imo... I am quite the fan of jair jurrjens though...

I hope you are right and this team is the greatest, I just can't see it at the present time

[daggerkobe]

You can not win without a reliable bullpen. And they are atrocious.

I cant believe they didnt go after Saito or Hoffman.

People think Lowe was a great signing because he never gets hurt and pitches 200 innings every season. But wait til he has to pitch into the 8th and 9th innings because of the horrible pen. Just look at Tim Hudson..... he was a model of health and consiatently pitched close to or over 200 innings..... then was injured last season after having to pitch deep into games due to a non-existent BP. It finally caught up with him just like it will with Lowe.

[pavyracer]

Hudson, Lowe, Kawakami, Jurrjens, Vasquez will have 75 wins this year. Starting pitching is a big improvement this year. The bullpen will not get overworked.

[element1286]

They will still end up being the third best team in the division.

[Willie Bee]

I will admit the 96, 97 and especially the 99 teams frustrated me greately with their playoff performance... (99 got swept to the yanks)

Please do not ever post again about the '97 and '99 Braves, even the 2001 team. I'm an Astros fan

[Casperwaits]

I have faith in McCann, Francoeur and Escobar. The pitching is improved this year drastically. The Braves are a young hitting team and with veteran pitching now the wins will start piling up. As it is obvious with the constant failures of Mets, Redsox and Yankees you cannot win only with money. You need young talent and the Braves have the best young talent in MLB right now.

Constant failures with the Red Sox..lol. Since the Sox started to spend ubermoney I believe they have won a couple of championships and have been to their share of playoff games. If that is failure, where do I sign up to become one? Oh yeah, by the way, Braves fans are about as bandwagon and wishy washy as they come. The year I lived in Atlanta, I went to about 15 Braves games, and the fans spent more time checking out the hot blondes than the game. Not saying their is anything wrong with that, but to turn around and say they have a rabid fan base is silly.

[daggerkobe]

Starting pitching means absolutely nothing without a reliable bullpen.

For example look at the Mets last season. One of the best starting rotation in the majors but a bullpen that blew NL worst 29 saves. Hence no playoffs.

[daggerkobe]

Hudson, Lowe, Kawakami, Jurrjens, Vasquez will have 75 wins this year. Starting pitching is a big improvement this year. The bullpen will not get overworked.

Hudson had Tommy John surgery and will need 12 month rehab.... which means he may miss the entire season.

Now that crappy BP will be even more overworked.

[Doc JS]

You can not win without a reliable bullpen. And they are atrocious.

I cant believe they didnt go after Saito or Hoffman.

People think Lowe was a great signing because he never gets hurt and pitches 200 innings every season. But wait til he has to pitch into the 8th and 9th innings because of the horrible pen. Just look at Tim Hudson..... he was a model of health and consiatently pitched close to or over 200 innings..... then was injured last season after having to pitch deep into games due to a non-existent BP. It finally caught up with him just like it will with Lowe.

You lost all credibility when you said Hoffman...Absolute HOF but he's done...

Doc

[daggerkobe]

Hoffman had more saves than the entire Braves bullpen last season.

Not to mention lower ERA and WHIP.

Im not saying he's a long term solution at 41 but he can help and mentor their youngins like Troy Percival has done with the Rays.

[pico]

lou pinnella, bobby cox, and joe torrie are my three favorites

[CashMoney]

If Cox managed the Yankees he would have been fired after the first set of WS losses. All those playoff appearances and 1 WS???

[pavyracer]

Cox is the best coach ever.

[CashMoney]

Cox is the best coach ever.

To win 1 W.S. with one the best pitching staffs in history.

[pavyracer]

World series is overrated. Winning the division 15 times in a row has never been done before.

[CashMoney]

World series is overrated. Winning the division 15 times in a row has never been done before.

Winning the W.S. is overrated??? If the end result is no ring then they would have been as well off as not winning the division.

I guess the Super Bowl and Stanley Cup are overrated as well.

[pavyracer]

To win the word series you only need to win 8 games. However, to win the division you need to win 90 games or more. Do you realize how hard it is in baseball to win 90+ games for 15 years in a row?