Betfair Broker for Canadians

[Jliao4]

Hi,

As the title would suggest I am a Canadian looking for access to a broker that has access to Betfair. I've signed up with AsianConnect888 but apparently they don't offer BetFair anymore and have no plans of changing this in the future. Help would be greatly appreciated.

[Optional]

Bet-Ibc offers pinny accounts. Assume they allow Canadians. http://bet-ibc.com/pinnacle-sign-up/

[Jliao4]

Wow are these people legit? All the accounts I was looking for in one place and if I am to believe the site they are owned by MaxBet.

My only concern is what is the business model for these bet brokerages? How can they stay in business if they don't charge a comission on every bet placed through them?

Do you or someone you know have any experience using BET-IBC as my own independent research brought me accross a brokerage called Eastbridge, however they seem to cater more towards whales and they also don't charge any fees for their service which makes me wonder how they can stay afloat.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Wow are these people legit? All the accounts I was looking for in one place and if I am to believe the site they are owned by MaxBet.

Not used bet-ibc myself, but they've been around for a while. As with all these places, they get a commission from the books from volume, so it's pretty much a license to print money. Note bet-ibc have 1.5% deposit and 1% withdrawal fees, which really can add up. Also related: they have a betfair frontend called 4odd, which is betfair but at 2% commission, so that maybe compensates a bit for the dep/withdrawal charges.


Asianconnect, Premiumtradings and Eastbridge are all legit too. All these and bet-ibc do mollybet accounts, which gives you sbo/max/matchbook/sing/isn from a single page. Some of them do betfair through this interface also, some don't. One has daq too, can't remember which.

Eastbridge also have a sister company called vodds that is similar, doesn't do the exchanges, but has a few more Asian books: pin sbo max sbc sing ga288 lx268 isn (and 1 other I forget). Just insane liquidity and odds possible, on the big leagues you can get 1.98 1.98 type odds typically. Soccer only though, whereas the molly ones do tennis also.

[Jliao4]

Ahh thank you for the info. Sports betting and gambling is one of those wierd fields where alot of the key information is kept behind closed doors. So I really appreciate you sharing your experiences with me.

[jjgold]

that broker is legit
been around

[Foxx]

Anyone know if premium charge comes into the equation when using a broker for Betfair?

[Jliao4]

Just an update on my findings after combing through a couple of brokerages:

Premiumtradings - they do offer betfair brokerage, however their spread on Bitcoin deposits was around 5% as I calculated it. IMO not worth it. For e-wallets they charge 3% (still alot) per deposit, however Canadians cannot use Neteller or Skrill, leaving us to accept their ridiculous BitCoin spread or go elsewhere.

BET-IBC - Bitcoin is not an option for deposit, however bank wires are accepted. Unfortunately you cannot wire CAD therefore you must incur wiring costs as well as FX fees. Unless you're a whale probably not worth it for the casual bettor.

All in all I feel that my best option is still Asianconnect88 + Matchbook and while Matchbook still has ways to go before it can match the market depth of BF, you atleast only pay 1% commission as opposed to the 2% at BF. More importantly however is the fact that Asianconnect has practically 0% fees on Bitcoin deposits and are very responsive on their skype.

[mg63]

which books are on Asianconnect88?

[Jliao4]

which books are on Asianconnect88?

• SBObet
• Pinnacle Sports
• Maxbet
• BetISN
• Singbet
• Matchbook
• GA288

And out of that list the top 3 worth checking out are Matchbook, Pinn, Maxbet.

[Optional]

Anyone know if premium charge comes into the equation when using a broker for Betfair?

Not certain but I doubt it. The overall group of sub accounts would be assessed together and the agent levied the fee if it applied. But chances are the wide group of users mean the ratio falls under the threshold.

Anyone know if regular trading software can be used at Betfair via a broker account?

[thespeculator]

Just an update on my findings after combing through a couple of brokerages:

Premiumtradings - they do offer betfair brokerage, however their spread on Bitcoin deposits was around 5% as I calculated it. IMO not worth it. For e-wallets they charge 3% (still alot) per deposit, however Canadians cannot use Neteller or Skrill, leaving us to accept their ridiculous BitCoin spread or go elsewhere.

BET-IBC - Bitcoin is not an option for deposit, however bank wires are accepted. Unfortunately you cannot wire CAD therefore you must incur wiring costs as well as FX fees. Unless you're a whale probably not worth it for the casual bettor.

All in all I feel that my best option is still Asianconnect88 + Matchbook and while Matchbook still has ways to go before it can match the market depth of BF, you atleast only pay 1% commission as opposed to the 2% at BF. More importantly however is the fact that Asianconnect has practically 0% fees on Bitcoin deposits and are very responsive on their skype.

They told me they will allow skrill. I think they use personal transfer, I am also from Canada and that is what i was told. Bet-Ibc said they are not considered a gambling company, so skrill will work. Those were there words, it was asianconnect that said you can use skrill

[mg63]

vodds.com offers odds only for soccer, bitcoin is ok
wonder if its the same for Eastbridge

asiaconnect88-

Janellesorry sir we do not offer singbet and ga288 in our bitcoin accounts

[Jliao4]

Irregardless my infatuation with Betfair is gone now that I've learned they now charge 5% commission. (WTF) I could swear it used to be 2% and I don't even want to read up on this so called "premium charge" they are levying on people.

[aggieshawn]

I need to get back on betfair. How do you prove to betfair you are no longer in Canada to access your account?
What are volume level like on american horse racing now?

[Jliao4]

I need to get back on betfair. How do you prove to betfair you are no longer in Canada to access your account?
What are volume level like on american horse racing now?

You have to make an account through a broker. If you MUST have BetFair use BET-iBC. You can only access the site through a VPN but last time I checked there was still just as much volume as ever and they are still the undisputable leader in horses.

[aggieshawn]

time to move to europe full time. thanks jliao4

[Jliao4]

time to move to europe full time. thanks jliao4

Forgot to add if you're a whale you could also consider if Eastbridge will work with you. Unlike other brokers they are licensed in the UK, so you have a chance of recourse if something goes awry as they aren't located in some vague 3rd world country with limited legal protections. However like I said they only cater to high rollers.

[mg63]

eastbridge-sb.com
Singbet(http://hg0088.com), Sbobet, Maxbet, Pinnacle, ISN. GA268, SBC, LX168, TL3388
Skrill, Neteller, wire, bitcoin
Singbet and LX168 do void bets so they advise their clients not to use them
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asiaconnect88.com
Maxbet, SBObet, Pinnacle, Singbet, BetISN, Matchbook, Asianodds
bitcoin
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vodds.com for soccer only
ga288 http://www.ga288.com/ soccer only
Asianodds --only soccer lines
betisn http://www.isn99.com/ NO NBA QUARTER LINES
maxbet cuts limits

[mg63]

Eastbridge also have a sister company called vodds that is similar, doesn't do the exchanges, but has a few more Asian books: pin sbo max sbc sing ga288 lx268 isn (and 1 other I forget). Just insane liquidity and odds possible, on the big leagues you can get 1.98 1.98 type odds typically. Soccer only though, whereas the molly ones do tennis also.

TL3388
it does not offer NBA markets

[jjgold]

I guess with brokers no issue where you live for the most part

[mg63]

hey coach, scorpy says he didnt do anything, doesnt know why het got banned

[HeeeHAWWWW]

I guess with brokers no issue where you live for the most part

Quite a few of them don't take UK clients, and even more don't take US.

[mg63]

HeeeHAWWWW, have u tried cmd368?

http://www.cmd368.com

[HeeeHAWWWW]

HeeeHAWWWW, have u tried cmd368?
http://www.cmd368.com

Never heard of em, sorry.

[Artizan]

Not certain but I doubt it. The overall group of sub accounts would be assessed together and the agent levied the fee if it applied. But chances are the wide group of users mean the ratio falls under the threshold.

Anyone know if regular trading software can be used at Betfair via a broker account?

Hi,

Be careful when you chose a broker because there are agents that offer a Betfair similar platform where you cannot bet on horse racing. At betibc you can place bets on horsis (at the mom not sure about greyhounds) as it is opened directly at BF not via an intermadiary platform and due to this the trading softwares can be used with no ptoblems
Another criteria is to use the brokers that already have in back a history and a name not those that are new like cmd368 - nobody heard about them. They still have to work a lot to win the people's trust /here we speak about our mani given to someone we do not know personally

[jjgold]

Hi,

Be careful when you chose a broker because there are agents that offer a Betfair similar platform where you cannot bet on horse racing. At betibc you can place bets on horsis (at the mom not sure about greyhounds) as it is opened directly at BF not via an intermadiary platform and due to this the trading softwares can be used with no ptoblems
Another criteria is to use the brokers that already have in back a history and a name not those that are new like cmd368 - nobody heard about them. They still have to work a lot to win the people's trust /here we speak about our mani given to someone we do not know personally

good info guy

[Optional]

Hi,

Be careful when you chose a broker because there are agents that offer a Betfair similar platform where you cannot bet on horse racing. At betibc you can place bets on horsis (at the mom not sure about greyhounds) as it is opened directly at BF not via an intermadiary platform and due to this the trading softwares can be used with no ptoblems
Another criteria is to use the brokers that already have in back a history and a name not those that are new like cmd368 - nobody heard about them. They still have to work a lot to win the people's trust /here we speak about our mani given to someone we do not know personally

Thanks Artizan

[SPECULATOR 13]

Excellent info guys

I have had this fixation about BETGRANDE,you can never get a straight answer when you ask how to open a account.Or one that make sense!
The one thing that i have manage to figure out is that one needs a agent in order to open that allusive account .
Now these operations that you have mention in earlier posts i.e IBC & premiumtradings are agents that allow us in canada to use MATCHBOOK and i am grateful for that invaluable bit of info.

I quit betting all together when MATCHBOOK ridiculously cut canada out ,however now the question is: do the agents you talk about in this thread provide a service for BETGRANDE.?
If not whom does?

[luctens]

I have had this fixation about BETGRANDE,you can never get a straight answer when you ask how to open a account.Or one that make sense!
The one thing that i have manage to figure out is that one needs a agent in order to open that allusive account .
Now these operations that you have mention in earlier posts i.e IBC & premiumtradings are agents that allow us in canada to use MATCHBOOK and i am grateful for that invaluable bit of info.

I quit betting all together when MATCHBOOK ridiculously cut canada out ,however now the question is: do the agents you talk about in this thread provide a service for BETGRANDE.?
If not whom does?

None of them offer BetGrande. You're not wrong when you say you have a "fixation" with BetGrande, as you posted on the EoG forum over 3 years ago asking about them. Just simply do some research and find out how many top books you can access from your country, bet with those bookmakers and forget about BetGrande.

[Foosball Champ]

i have been with asiaconnect88 for 7 months now. they totally screw you on conversion rates of depositing by bitcoin. anybody have the same experience?

[Foosball Champ]

I live both in the united states and belize. but I enjoy betting horses at betfair. what is the best way to do this?

[SBE]

Today I have received an email. Some company, Betac.com is offering betting at betfair, pinnacle, etc.

I do not know them, if it is a scam or a good company.

If somebody has an experience with them, please, let us know.

[MikeyPicks1]

Is there a particular one of these you'd say is better than the others?

[SBE]

This thread was about Betfair included at a broker. And I noticed it is (not incleded everywhere). But I do not know, if they accept Canadians. Suppose there is no restriction on this ...