8-4(67% with no losing weeks yet).From across da street
Houston
Tampa Bay
Chicago
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1-3 never lost till today. the day I jump on it . this suxComment -
They took bad teamsComment -
does not matter.. it's the spots they took them in.Originally posted by StallionComment -
Undefeated teams keep winning & covering!
Fade & pay ur man.Bookies will have to keep inflating the odds until these teams come back down from da cloudsComment -
No #supercontest repeat.....currently at #703Originally posted by megamillionslose
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Only four picks here. Are these the pay picks? They did go tout.Comment -
What is their name in the super contest? I paid for their weekly package every week so far and the plays never matched any of the super contest entries. Going tout was a bad sign by itself, but then having seperate picks for the contest is even worse. The first 2 weeks were good, I made some money, and I was smart enough to not go bigger the last 2 weeks when they lost. They usually send me a paypal invoice early in the week, but this week I haven't got one yet. I am wondering if they are thinking they got ahead of themselves after 1 good year trying to go tout.Originally posted by watsuiNo #supercontest repeat.....currently at #703Comment -
CH Ballers supposedly NOT the same guys in this year's Westgate contest!
Breakin their cherry as a paid tout this season meant they couldn't use the exact same handle in this year's contest for OBVIOUS reasons!They are only releasing their top four NFL picks each week to paid clients as we all know that handicapping the NFL is a nightmare even for the wiseguysComment -
yea but that doesn't answer my question, "watsu" said they are ranked 703 in the hilton. not sure who he is talking aboutComment -
CH have been identified as El Chingon by some but I don't think anyone can 100 % confirm it.Originally posted by Hatch1182Comment -
Speak of the devil!
CH Ballers one of this week's guests on Gill Alexander's new Beating the Book podcast!Comment -
nope its not el chingon. el chingon had the 3 plays in week 1 that were the same as ch ballers tout plays but after that the plays werent the same and in some cases the plays were opposite
they are either not in the contest at all this year or their contest selections are completely different than their tout plays. not sure why they thought it was going to be a good idea trying to put out 2 pick sets and still win but it just goes to show their inexperience and bad decision making after only 1 year of successComment -
btw its now thursday night and they still didnt send me an invoice for this week. i am not going to buy them anyway but i find it funny that they havent sent me a bill. anyone else been paying for them? have they contacted you this week?Comment -
My bad they "El Chingon" is tied for 730 place out of 1727 entrants in the super contest. Contest picks were Jax, Hou, Chi, TB and KCOriginally posted by jt315
Hou, Chi, TB and KC was supposedly CH Ballers paid picksComment -
thought they had a college pick last week too?Comment -
CLUMSON was graded a push so that's why they stated their record was 9-7-1 on TWATTEROriginally posted by swirvComment -
Two of the four CH Ballers team were on the podcast.Think they stated 13 points so far in the Westgate contest which is roughly the same as last year before they went on their white hot run to easily win.Clients will NOT get 5 picks per weekOriginally posted by Hatch1182Comment -
yea that was their paid picks, but in week 2 they had the opposite of an el chingon pick (cant remember which game it was)Originally posted by watsui
and i was the one who originally suggested el chingon could be them on here. in week 1 el chingon was the only entry that wasnt in the contest last year who matched all of ch ballers week 1 paid plays. but like i said, in week 2, one of el chingons contest plays was opposite of ch ballers paid plays
and yea, i know they could get hot and go on a run, but its bad enough karma to go tout after 1 year, but if they are trying to juggle 2 pick sets for the contest and paid clients, and then even giving out opposite paid plays than the contest plays then that is just asking for even more troubleComment -
Apparently they either didn't realize that I didn't pay this week, or they are trying to give me this week free to gain my business again because I just received an email for this weeks plays
Rough week last week - stay disciplined and let's get back on track this week. Remember, it's a long season and the goal is to be profitable long term. Don't chase your loses or force action on games just for the hell of it. As always, we'll answer questions as best we can. Picks:
Detroit Lions +3 (-115)
Kansas City Chiefs -9
Cleveland Browns +7 (-115)
San Diego Chargers -3 (-125)Comment -
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Can't figure out the fascination by bettors every week with the lions...................Originally posted by ToPHeR
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I know exactly whats happening with them, because its happened to anyone with enough experience.
Last year they won by playing the correct ugly games. Meaning the ones that look ugly on paper but kept winning for them. This year they have the same mindset but have gotten lazy, have added extra pressure by going tout, and also adding the extra stress of trying to keep their Hilton contest identity a secret. The end result is that they are looking for what worked last year, but they are picking the obvious ugly games instead of the ugly ones that win. If they looked at yesterdays NFL card in 2014, they would have taken teams like the 49ers , Eagles, Redskins. I know its easy to say after the fact, but those are the ones that looked ugly on paper but in the end they were winners. Those are the type of selections they made last year, and those are the type of selections that anyone who wants to win needs to be able to make weekly to win at NFL betting. Instead, this year they are taking the ugly ones like Detroit and Houston week after week thinking they are smarter than Vegas and losing.
I mean, Arizona was the top selection in this weeks hilton contest, guess who thought they were being slick and took the lions? LOL this is what happens when you want to go tout after 1 good season, and like i have said, they made it even worse with all the other mental stress they added to itComment -
So SD tonight?Comment -
1-3 another losing weekComment -
The public rules while contrarians drool!
Public have been spot on the first few NFL weeks.A lot of pros count on parity expecting winning teams to regress & losing teams to progress.When that doesn't happen the public keeps on winning.10-10 not horrible for a rookie paid tout but if u paid $800(Vegas Insider season price)to CHB u are gettin nervousComment -
This is why i now only follow a couple of paid touts for fun!
As seen on CHB's Twatter account(huge FOCK U to those who paid $799 for season pkg)Comment -
Haven't we all seen this story before. remember the kid who had a unbelievable run in college football years back and then asked for $$ for a new computer..These clowns are no different and those who wasted their subscription were just looking for the flavor on the month. Only those who have long term success over 1000-2000 plays and show they can churn around 54-55 % are the ones to look to. Just go to pick monitor and do some research and you:ll find some answers. Even the best have off seasons and loose a bit but overall win $$. these kids have no track record other than a lucky streak. Ive know people in the past to finish among the top 10 at the Hilton contest but they are not long term winners just lucky for a year.
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True words Ironman..
Not many speak true words on this site... pay attention young fools !!Originally posted by Ironman07Haven't we all seen this story before. remember the kid who had a unbelievable run in college football years back and then asked for $$ for a new computer..These clowns are no different and those who wasted their subscription were just looking for the flavor on the month. Only those who have long term success over 1000-2000 plays and show they can churn around 54-55 % are the ones to look to. Just go to pick monitor and do some research and you:ll find some answers. Even the best have off seasons and loose a bit but overall win $$. these kids have no track record other than a lucky streak. Ive know people in the past to finish among the top 10 at the Hilton contest but they are not long term winners just lucky for a year.Comment -
Yes and I knew this from the start. I didn't buy their season pass, and to be quite honest I expected them to lose. I did a group buy with a couple people and we paid for 4 weeks at 40$ per week.Originally posted by Ironman07Haven't we all seen this story before. remember the kid who had a unbelievable run in college football years back and then asked for $$ for a new computer..These clowns are no different and those who wasted their subscription were just looking for the flavor on the month. Only those who have long term success over 1000-2000 plays and show they can churn around 54-55 % are the ones to look to. Just go to pick monitor and do some research and you:ll find some answers. Even the best have off seasons and loose a bit but overall win $$. these kids have no track record other than a lucky streak. Ive know people in the past to finish among the top 10 at the Hilton contest but they are not long term winners just lucky for a year.
My opinion is that there are no "professional handicappers". There are just people who gamble all the time, people who only gamble sometimes, and people who never gamble. Anyone who fits into the first category can tell you that no matter if you pick on your own or pay someone for their picks you will hit peaks and valleys. You will get hot and cold picking by yourself, the exact same way as if you pay someone. I got into the ch ballers group buy because my buddies wanted to believe in them and I warned them that they will probably lose.
Who remembers SPYLOCK? Completely killed it in like 2006 or 2007 in college football. Next season he was horrible and vanished after week 2 or 3 and was never heard from again.
I remember another poster from eog. NY REB .... he killed it in college football for about 2 years, then when all the hype was built up he sucked and made excuses about why he was going to stop posting.
The point is, showboating , touting, and saying "HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME" is what anyone who is posting or trying to charge for picks is doing. You will never win in the long run by doing this, and if the guys from CH ballers had experience then they would have known this. They got their picture taken with a big check, and got a story about them in ESPN. Some suite got in their ear and told them they can be great by charging for picks, but in reality whoever that was was only trying to profit off the name "CH BALLERS" and the buzz that last years hilton contest createdComment -
anything this week?Comment -
Didn't get them this week. According to Vegas Insider they have 5 picks today, and they waited until today to release them too which is a change from the first 5 weeks.Comment -
CH Ballers NFL Picks:
Period: 8/9/2015 to 10/18/2015
Pick Type: All Picks
Record: 10-10-0 ( 50.0% , -65)
PICKS RECORD DETAILS
10/18/15 Cincinnati (na) at Buffalo (na) Home (+3, +100) Stations 10/18/15 00:32:43 Pending 10/18/15 Chicago (na) at Detroit (na) Home (-3, -120) Stations 10/18/15 00:32:43 Pending 10/18/15 Houston (na) at Jacksonville (na) Away (+2.5, -110) Mirage-MGM 10/18/15 00:32:43 Pending 10/18/15 Washington (na) at N.Y. Jets (na) Home (-6.5, -110) Mirage-MGM 10/18/15 00:32:43 Pending 10/18/15 San Diego (na) at Green Bay (na) Away (+11, -110) GoldenNugget 10/18/15 00:32:43 Pending Comment -
Anyone tracking these guys? Genuinely curious if these guys are even in the black with 1 week left...Comment
