What happened to "Drain the Swamp"?

[khicks26]

In a border state...you see the problems. In broad context yes ok agree about the fruit pickers but it goes so much further than that. Again it comes down to visas and those who manipulate the system.

I'm liking what I'm seeing with even car plants now...shifts in US and Mexico production partnerships...the small volume selling cars can be made in Mexico and paid in Mexico's currency so it's a good wage but the retail price in US stays affordable and the higher volume selling vehicles can be made in the US for jobs here. Tech bringing in **** workers from abroad helps because of the shortage in engineers in US is a win win. My problem is with the guys and girls who just run in and get dumped on schools and neighborhoods and find odd jobs and send that cash money back to their home nations.

Yeah in a border state I'm sure its more in your face & has a bigger effect. But do you really think that the rest of the country cares what happens in Texas. They don't.

But let me put it to you this way. The reason we have 11 million people from Mexico is NAFT. Who wanted NAFT rich powerful corporations is search of cheap labor & bigger markets to sell their shit. They bought the Dem' & Rep's pushed it though & put millions of Mexican framers out of work & made them illegal immigrants. So if your going to blame anyone start there, & quit blaming the victim, of which there are many, Both Mexican & American.

The rest of us sure as hell don't want to pay for a wall & security so rich guys can have it there way. Sorry Texas build your own god dam wall.

The wall is a giant waste anyway. If rich companies want those people here. then they are going to be here. Wall or no wall. Also since the 08 crash immigration is down. More are now leaving than coming in because the economy is fuked & there's no opportunity for anyone.

As for the rest your talking microeconomics & I'm talking macroeconomics. But yes raising wages around the world would help with the immigration problem.

[itchypickle]

Yeah in a border state I'm sure its more in your face & has a bigger effect. But do you really think that the rest of the country cares what happens in Texas. They don't.

But let me put it to you this way. The reason we have 11 million people from Mexico is NAFT. Who wanted NAFT rich powerful corporations is search of cheap labor & bigger markets to sell their shit. They bought the Dem' & Rep's pushed it though & put millions of Mexican framers out of work & made them illegal immigrants. So if your going to blame anyone start there, & quit blaming the victim, of which there are many, Both Mexican & American.

The rest of us sure as hell don't want to pay for a wall & security so rich guys can have it there way. Sorry Texas build your own god dam wall.

The wall is a giant waste anyway. If rich companies want those people here. then they are going to here. Wall or no wall. Also since the 08 crash immigration is down. More are now leaving than coming in because the economy is fuked & there's no opportunity for anyone.

As for the rest your talking microeconomics & I'm talking macroeconomics. But yes raising wages around the world help with the immigration problem.

You're generally a fairly intelligent guy but that's an ignorant post man. Obviously no understanding of the immigration economy that benefits the criminal syndicate and routes taken by the illegals. Texas California Arizona and New Mexico are just the hubs....everyone starts here but many hop on the highways and get taken elsewhere. Texas is worse because of the many entry points and so many get in and don't have resources to extend north or they don't want the colder climates. Then you have your sanctuary cities where we pay for the criminals to shelter in.

You're right NAFTA sucks...we agree there.

[khicks26]

You're generally a fairly intelligent guy but that's an ignorant post man. Obviously no understanding of the immigration economy that benefits the criminal syndicate and routes taken by the illegals. Texas California Arizona and New Mexico are just the hubs....everyone starts here but many hop on the highways and get taken elsewhere. Texas is worse because of the many entry points and so many get in and don't have resources to extend north or they don't want the colder climates. Then you have your sanctuary cities where we pay for the criminals to shelter in.

You're right NAFTA sucks...we agree there.

Without NAFTA, our war on drugs none of that is taking place at the level it is. Your not looking at the cause, but the effect. Your trying to plug holes as the tidal wave hits & calling me ignorant.

Big Picture My Friend, I'm just telling it like it is.

[khicks26]

By the way I'm not that intelligent, (just ask Brooks) LOL I just listen to people that are.

[DwightShrute]

By the way I'm not that intelligent, (just ask Brooks) LOL I just listen to people that are.

that's why I keep posting. You're welcome!

[khicks26]

that's why I keep posting. You're welcome!

LOL Sorry Bros, I kinda like you & all. But your not in that group.

[khicks26]

that's why I keep posting. You're welcome!

you should of put the You're in bold. LOL

[itchypickle]

Without NAFTA, our war on drugs none of that is taking place at the level it is. Your not looking at the cause, but the effect. Your trying to plug holes as the tidal wave hits & calling me ignorant.

Big Picture My Friend, I'm just telling it like it is.

We agree on the war on drugs too. It's a cash cow for the cartels ...which then ties back in to the whole crack down against the border jumps that bring in the product.

El Chapo already picked a fight with Trump on Twitter this week...said build your damn wall I'll just blow it up or tunnel under it. I'd be fine with Trump calling the DEA and getting the addressss for all the cartel bosses homes and then handing the note over to the Air Force and send the drones over for a visit. Put an end to the nonsense for good. Buy my weed from US grown farms and call it a day.

[khicks26]

We agree on the war on drugs too. It's a cash cow for the cartels ...which then ties back in to the whole crack down against the border jumps that bring in the product.

El Chapo already picked a fight with Trump on Twitter this week...said build your damn wall I'll just blow it up or tunnel under it. I'd be fine with Trump calling the DEA and getting the addressss for all the cartel bosses homes and then handing the note over to the Air Force and send the drones over for a visit. Put an end to the nonsense for good. Buy my weed from US grown farms and call it a day.

The US does grow the best weed anyway.

But why do you want to turn Mexico into the Middle East? Other than the fact it would be cheaper to fight a war on our border.

You must have stock in Raytheon.

[itchypickle]

The US does grow the best weed anyway.

But why do you want to turn Mexico into the Middle East? Other than the fact it would be cheaper to fight a war on our border.

You must have stock in Raytheon.

It's already horrible in many states there. I'm not recommending an occupation or even too much of a presence but just enough to bring the cartels under control. It's not like we don't already operate there anyway...just get a little more pronounced 😉

[khicks26]

It's already horrible in many states there. I'm not recommending an occupation or even too much of a presence but just enough to bring the cartels under control. It's not like we don't already operate there anyway...just get a little more pronounced 

That's the thing about drug dealers, there's always someone else to step up. Once again your looking at the effect & not the cause.

[itchypickle]

That's the thing about drug dealers, there's always someone else to step up. Once again your looking at the effect & not the cause.

True but we are where we are. You're more of a philosophical thinker than me...I'm a doer and problem solver mindset.

[khicks26]

True but we are where we are. You're more of a philosophical thinker than me...I'm a doer and problem solver mindset.

I can agree with that & both mindsets are needed. But what do we do now?

[DwightShrute]

I can agree with that & both mindsets are needed. But what do we do now?

this is why I like you. While I disagree with you on most things, you definitely have the ability to debate/argue respectfully. Look at itchy, he is a pro. A better man than me on the forum. He shares his thoughts and rarely gets into the name calling nonsense that you get into with Brooks and I get into with dante.


Not religeous but I dig this

[khicks26]

this is why I like you. While I disagree with you on most things, you definitely have the ability to debate/argue respectfully. Look at itchy, he is a pro. A better man than me on the forum. He shares his thoughts and rarely gets into the name calling nonsense that you get into with Brooks and I get into with dante.


Not religeous but I dig this

We don't disagree on all that much, just who & how to make things right. If you met me in person I'm really a nice guy, as I'm sure most of the guys in here are as well. Opinions are much stronger online. But I do laugh at the shit you post more than you think. Just don't tell anyone.

Yeah itchy is a good guy, wouldn't mind being stuck in a fox hole with him. He wouldn't leave you for dead or stab you in the back. He's a righteous dude.

You know if more church's played music like that, I bet more people would go. Looks like fun, but I can do without all the preachy do as I say & not as I do BS. If there is a God somewhere out there, he's pissed off at the church.

[khicks26]

[itchypickle]

I'm sure Greget and Scumbag would disagree with you gentlemen. Kind of miss those dudes.

[rkelly110]

My head is exploding after watching that, but it's a lot of what I've said before.

Debt clock is propaganda. Watch how fast that comes down now that Trump is in charge.

Our turnpike has been privatized. Costs to drive on it has gone up every year. The roads used to be the best in
the state, now they are shit. Less workers, less pay.

Ryan is already talking about Medicare. SS will be next. Have fun working until you're 70 boys. When you do,
medicare will only cover 50% by that time. Hoard your money in your mattresses now.

[itchypickle]

My head is exploding after watching that, but it's a lot of what I've said before.

Debt clock is propaganda. Watch how fast that comes down now that Trump is in charge.

Our turnpike has been privatized. Costs to drive on it has gone up every year. The roads used to be the best in
the state, now they are shit. Less workers, less pay.

Ryan is already talking about Medicare. SS will be next. Have fun working until you're 70 boys. When you do,
medicare will only cover 50% by that time. Hoard your money in your mattresses now.

Anybody still dependent on SS benefits to fund retirement living probably shouldn't be left unattended with sharp objects...they aren't mentally ready.

[khicks26]

My head is exploding after watching that, but it's a lot of what I've said before.

Debt clock is propaganda. Watch how fast that comes down now that Trump is in charge.

Our turnpike has been privatized. Costs to drive on it has gone up every year. The roads used to be the best in
the state, now they are shit. Less workers, less pay.

Ryan is already talking about Medicare. SS will be next. Have fun working until you're 70 boys. When you do,
medicare will only cover 50% by that time. Hoard your money in your mattresses now.

Now you know why I tell Brooks he's full of shit. Not that you didn't know that.

Its all a fuking scam to suck money out of the people & give it to people that have more than they need. The poor stay poor & the rich get rich.

Every time you hear something is being privatized it a scam. Ryan's an asshole Koch schill, that's who he work's for. It sure as hell ain't the people. We just pay his salary.

Just watch a few months into Trump's term, there's going to be another great crash & the profit pigs will want us to bail them out again.

[khicks26]

Also you didn't think Trump was going to fund all this shit cutting the corporate tax rate to 15%. Sure glad he's working for free.

[khicks26]

Anybody still dependent on SS benefits to fund retirement living probably shouldn't be left unattended with sharp objects...they aren't mentally ready.

Not today you can't the way they suck money out of the 99%. Why do you think so many people that should be retired are working at Burger King & Walmarts.

[jtoler]

Now you know why I tell Brooks he's full of shit. Not that you didn't know that.

Its all a fuking scam to suck money out of the people & give it to people that have more than they need. The poor stay poor & the rich get rich.

Every time you hear something is being privatized it a scam. Ryan's an asshole Koch schill, that's who he work's for. It sure as hell ain't the people. We just pay his salary.

Just watch a few months into Trump's term, there's going to be another great crash & the profit pigs will want us to bail them out again.

Agreed.

[jtoler]

Of course theyll make excuses for Donald, sad.

[khicks26]

Of course theyll make excuses for Donald, sad.

You know there coming. Donny boy is the White Knight.

[Turd Ferguson]

The swamp rats don't look overly frightened to me...

I haven't seen a gleam like that in McConnell's eye since he watched Rwandan genocide footage, and Ryan looks like Donald just gave him his class ring and told him he's let him wear his letterman jacket after 3rd period...

[rkelly110]

The swamp rats don't look overly frightened to me...

I haven't seen a gleam like that in McConnell's eye since he watched Rwandan genocide footage, and Ryan looks like Donald just gave him his class ring and told him he's let him wear his letterman jacket after 3rd period...

They are brown nosers, that's what they do. If the Don says suck, they will suck.

[Turd Ferguson]

They are brown nosers, that's what they do. If the Don says suck, they will suck.

It's going to be the other way around, they're going to stroke his ego and take advantage of his incompetence bigly.

Those working class white folks in the rust belt are in for a harsh reality check, and they won't get an ounce of sympathy from me.

[ericc]

It's going to be the other way around, they're going to stroke his ego and take advantage of his incompetence bigly.

Those working class white folks in the rust belt are in for a harsh reality check, and they won't get an ounce of sympathy from me.

You do not suffer fools gladly.

[Turd Ferguson]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/smoking-guns-trumps-transition-appointments-signal-his-plans-to-attack-regulations-195948461.html

Way to go rural America...

[Bluehorseshoe]

So now he's not going after Hillary and now believes in Global Warming?

[d2bets]

So now he's not going after Hillary and now believes in Global Warming?

There is hope after all. The one positive is that he isn't really tied to anything but himself and his ego. So he can be convinced to shift positions and could eventually govern as a liberal.

[Turd Ferguson]

[DwightShrute]

Trump's the man. He is doing it the right way.

[Turd Ferguson]

Trump's the man. He is doing it the right way.

That's what you got from that picture?

The picture was more about McConnell than Trump you maroon

Normal people are horrified to see that expression on McConnell's face. That's the "we're going back to the 1850's" expression.