SBR poker future (Dougie)

**onerous** · 02-26-15, 03:06 AM

thought dougie was no more.? and yea they must not care about poker because people quit the site due to it why take away the only AM tourney makes no sense to me

**Slanina** · 02-26-15, 10:53 AM

He's not a mod anymore? I don't check poker forums much these days. It's almost as dead as the table action with the new setup.

**SharpAngles** · 02-26-15, 12:02 PM

Douglas taken behind the SBR barn and put out of his misery. Maybe sam9ball will see his and give you some advice but that's a big maybe.

**horja1** · 02-26-15, 12:47 PM

**downsouth** · 02-26-15, 12:51 PM

Heres a suggestion guys. And no guarantees but if you send me something I can at least make sure it gets looked at if it is reasonable.

Give us a tourney structure you think would be reasonable. You can use free buy ins or ones with point buys in. Probably cant go back to paying the 12 or whatever that were paid as that was often half the field but could maybe look at something with 7-8 paid or whatnot.

Again, I am not the decision maker but if someone sends me something that looks good I can possibly go to bat for it.

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 02-26-15, 12:51 PM

ya, I think Doug was kicked to the curb in favor of sammy9ball...very shrewd decision

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 02-26-15, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Heres a suggestion guys. And no guarantees but if you send me something I can at least make sure it gets looked at if it is reasonable.

Give us a tourney structure you think would be reasonable. You can use free buy ins or ones with point buys in. Probably cant go back to paying the 12 or whatever that were paid as that was often half the field but could maybe look at something with 7-8 paid or whatnot.

Again, I am not the decision maker but if someone sends me something that looks good I can possibly go to bat for it.

I'd much rather have a buyin for a bigger prizepool and more pay slots...just my .02

**downsouth** · 02-26-15, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

I'd much rather have a buyin for a bigger prizepool and more pay slots...just my .02

I agree, I just need to have a structure layed out that I can show point totals and I dont have the time or motivation to create it currently.

**mpaschal34** · 02-26-15, 01:14 PM

Go back to the previous structure but make it a 20 point buy in.

**RudyRuetigger** · 02-26-15, 01:24 PM

Regarding Doug:

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http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3054541-sbr-pokers-wsop-standings-02-12-a.html#post23576921

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**Dan Kelly** · 02-26-15, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

I'd much rather have a buyin for a bigger prizepool and more pay slots...just my .02

bump

BOL

**Slanina** · 02-26-15, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by mpaschal34

Go back to the previous structure but make it a 20 point buy in.

I second that. If it's still too many points paid out, trim first place from 600 to 500. Then second through fourth 25 points less each. That's 175 points on top of the 250 extra from the 20 point buyin. (assuming it's the normal 25 entries 10x25). If that's still not enough, remove 11th and 12th. That's an additional 100 points so only final table gets paid. Can't do much with 40 and 60 at a table anyways.

Old format = 12 places for 2500 points with 250 contributed from players.
Proposal = 10 places for 2225 with 500 points contributed from players.

**brainfreeze** · 02-26-15, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Slanina

I second that. If it's still too many points paid out, trim first place from 600 to 500. Then second through fourth 25 points less each. That's 175 points on top of the 250 extra from the 20 point buyin. (assuming it's the normal 25 entries 10x25). If that's still not enough, remove 11th and 12th. That's an additional 100 points so only final table gets paid. Can't do much with 40 and 60 at a table anyways.

Old format = 12 places for 2500 points with 250 contributed from players.
Proposal = 10 places for 2225 with 500 points contributed from players.

Agreed, and if that isn't enough.... Just make it 24 pts, that way every two days someone will have the points to play.

**SharpAngles** · 02-26-15, 04:15 PM

Format should pay the final table or at least top 7 imo. Make it a higher buy or make it 10 again to lessen SBR's overlay if thats the reason for the "promo".

Or how about they keep this new format but add 10 man SNGs with no overlay. 20 point buy in 1st: 100, 2nd: 60, 3rd: 40? or even higher. Personally I'd like a 60 with a 300,180,120 structure but that might end up in the same 10 guys playing every time with the other players broke.

I can guarantee allowing players in more than once a day would boost traffic significantly as well.

And no matter what,

h4h at 15 has got to go

**playersonly69** · 02-26-15, 06:16 PM

I don't think that the buyin for PROS should be higher than 12 points. I mean we only get 12 points per day, it shouldn't be a higher buyin than that 12 points. But feel free to pay only 10 places

**daneblazer** · 02-26-15, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Heres a suggestion guys. And no guarantees but if you send me something I can at least make sure it gets looked at if it is reasonable.

Give us a tourney structure you think would be reasonable. You can use free buy ins or ones with point buys in. Probably cant go back to paying the 12 or whatever that were paid as that was often half the field but could maybe look at something with 7-8 paid or whatnot.

Again, I am not the decision maker but if someone sends me something that looks good I can possibly go to bat for it.

I think first we need to find out how much they're willing to pay out in points per day for poker tournaments, then we can think about a structure

**downsouth** · 02-26-15, 07:37 PM

Obviously take what they have now as far as payouts, add in number for a 10-12 point per person buy in and lay me out a structure. Again not saying its a lock or anything but Ill see what I can do.

**SharpAngles** · 02-26-15, 08:23 PM

Going off the roughly 40 playing per tourney now and SBR adding the current 1000...

12 betpoint buy in makes an extra 480 so 1480 total.

1:400
2:320
3:220
4:160
5:140
6:125
7:105

Or maybe make it a 10+2 to give SBR an 8% rebate every time and adjust payouts to...

1:400
2:300
3:240
4:180
5:130
6:90
7:70

**Triple_D_Bet** · 02-26-15, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Heres a suggestion guys. And no guarantees but if you send me something I can at least make sure it gets looked at if it is reasonable.

Give us a tourney structure you think would be reasonable. You can use free buy ins or ones with point buys in. Probably cant go back to paying the 12 or whatever that were paid as that was often half the field but could maybe look at something with 7-8 paid or whatnot.

Again, I am not the decision maker but if someone sends me something that looks good I can possibly go to bat for it.

It really depends what SBR is trying to achieve; without some kind of goal, hard to argue they should shell out any points at all.

If we want to take current overlay as baseline, I'd recommend a few things:

-keep overlay fixed for tournaments, but scales payouts/places paid with number of entrants, like normal poker does.

-run 6 turbos throughout the day with ~150pt overlay. ! per day free for pros/10 points for non-pros, no limit to # played per day, with old starting times plus an early AM one that's more world-friendly. This should meet the needs of casual players who want to sit down and take a shot at a pizza. (I'd embrace the pizza thing and make 1st place enough points for a pizza, pay out rest as normal).

-run 6 tournaments with 10-12 minute blind levels at same times, pros only, 10 points to enter, only one per day, 350 point overlay, limited to 20 players. Points won in these count for contests. Expand limit/overlays as necessary as participation increases to ensure all pros who want to play can.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, figure out a way to drive cash games! I'd recommend picking certain hours (like during or between tournaments) and for those times only running bad beat jackpots, rake races, random drawings or something.

If SBR still worried about the overlay, simply make Biteme a SBR poker team pro, and have him play for the house

**GaryDN** · 02-26-15, 10:06 PM

If SBR still worried about the overlay, simply make Biteme a SBR poker team pro, and have him play for the house

I like this idea ! Outstanding ! I second the motion !

**thechaoz** · 02-27-15, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21

I'd much rather have a buyin for a bigger prizepool and more pay slots...just my .02

Agree 100 percent

**thechaoz** · 02-27-15, 12:53 AM

Trip had some good ideas, hold random point drawings, bb jackpots, etc

**onerous** · 02-27-15, 07:04 AM

how many more points they need to save anyway?? they already took away a whole tournament from us people that could only play in the a.m.

**Auto Donk** · 02-27-15, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by onerous

how many more points they need to save anyway?? they already took away a whole tournament from us people that could only play in the a.m.

there may not be any a.m. trny, but at least you got to pull a threesome with two studs at mt. rushmore........... you got that goin' for ya

**Auto Donk** · 02-27-15, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet

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If SBR still worried about the overlay, simply make Biteme a SBR poker team pro, and have him play for the house

uh, this concept has been in full force and effect since I joined SBR

**horja1** · 03-03-15, 11:42 AM

so no answer from SBR?

**SharpAngles** · 03-03-15, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by horja1

so no answer from SBR?

I'm shocked

**JAKEPEAVY21** · 03-03-15, 01:52 PM

we are the red headed step children of SBR

**horja1** · 03-04-15, 01:24 PM

**Robber** · 03-09-15, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by horja1

so no answer from SBR?

As with the hedge fund

**konck** · 03-10-15, 06:43 PM

Just a employee toilet now

**downsouth** · 03-10-15, 07:06 PM

This is what I know of the daily tournaments. Take it for what it is worth. It does not look likely to go back to the previous format as the turnout versus the payout was not really making sense. Ideas are being batted around currently for what format will be used going forward. Please feel free to post up any ideas you have with a starting point being the amount of points currently given away plus potential for 10-12 point buy ins.

**daneblazer** · 03-10-15, 08:00 PM

Douglas has moved on to head the NCAA lines in the SBR book which is why we can't get lines for conference title games

**frankzig** · 03-10-15, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

This is what I know of the daily tournaments. Take it for what it is worth. It does not look likely to go back to the previous format as the turnout versus the payout was not really making sense. Ideas are being batted around currently for what format will be used going forward. Please feel free to post up any ideas you have with a starting point being the amount of points currently given away plus potential for 10-12 point buy ins.

what was SBR looking for in the previous tourny's, that they were not getting?