If You Care About MLB Season Wins Totals

**BennyBigNuts** · 03-05-16, 06:54 AM

Redsox Under 86.5
Biggest lock on the board

**daneblazer** · 03-05-16, 07:15 AM

Roster is old, pitchers over rated, and there's tumbleweeds blowing through their minor league system.

Hey, you asked

**RockBottom** · 03-05-16, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by daneblazer

Roster is old, pitchers over rated, and there's tumbleweeds blowing through their minor league system.

Hey, you asked

And no easy wins in their division.

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 03-05-16, 03:12 PM

we need to talk

ill get back with you guys shortly

you all have a lot to learn

**lakerboy** · 03-05-16, 03:19 PM

Tigers might finish last in the division.

**turtlejc** · 03-05-16, 04:21 PM

because brad ausmus

**jjgold** · 03-05-16, 04:23 PM

Hard to predict pitchers getting injured

Hitting means nothing in MLB

If you have good pitching you win lots of games

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 03-28-16, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow

we need to talk ...

How is Tigers only over/under 81 wins ?

And, even though their players are getting beaned left and right

and Maybin just went down for 4 weeks from getting hit on the wrist

I am tempted to pull the trigger on the over before it changes

locked in at over 81 wins @ -125 for 7 units

$210 to win $168

Had to do it,pulled the trigger last night actually.
Its at 82 and 82.5 at a lot of other places (although only -115)
I still like the combo of over 81 for a lil more juice

**Slipknot26** · 03-28-16, 06:24 PM

What do think on :
Royals Over 84.5 ?
Cubs U 93.5 ?
Thank you

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 03-28-16, 06:32 PM

under 70 wins for 4 units

$120 to win $104.35

They are in a super tough division as it is , and only won 64 games last year
Now they got rid of their best pitcher , best closer,Todd Frazier and Mike Leake as well (who is underrated)
Jay Bruce is going to be traded this year and possibly Brandon Phillips as well
Their initial number 1 starter Anthony Desclafani is out indefinitely with oblique injury
which only adds more question marks to a very subpar rotation

Billy Hamilton can be scary but he cant steal first.... can he ?
Guy has horrid OBP and hits the ball in the air too often .
Votto is Votto, going to do his thing but he doesnt drive in many runs

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 03-28-16, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Slipknot26

What do think on :
Royals Over 84.5 ?
Cubs U 93.5 ?
Thank you

used to write large reasoning's as to each move
but I simply do not care enough to take the time on here to do it anymore
I will just say quickly that Id take Royals over 84 or no play.
The Cubbies are fukkin stocked ... and the thing is they can win some games in the regular season
its the playoffs where the "perpetual chokers" label starts to gnaw away at their minds
they started off 15-15 last year and still almost won 100
now their team is only stronger and more gelled coming into this year .
The rotation is good if healthy, but Lackey wont have as good year this year as last year
he simply allows too much hard contact for Wrigley
The lineup is scary good though.

Gun to my head Id say Cubs slightly over the 94 win mark
btw most books Im seeing have Cubs at o/u 94 wins.

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 03-28-16, 06:42 PM

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**Slipknot26** · 03-28-16, 06:57 PM

Thanks for your input
Hope you have a great year

**Breadloser** · 03-29-16, 06:00 AM

The Tigers play in the roughest division this year. There's no other division where all 5 teams expect to make the playoffs. Obviously they all wont, but all of the 5 teams have 90 win upside.

My favorite team by far is the Twins. Indians are the trendy pick, but I don't like that at all. Twins have one of the best managers in baseball. Lineup is loaded with young talent. In Park and Sano, I guarantee you have 70 homeruns. I loved the Murphy trade also. Rotation is very underrated with Gibson, Hughes, Santana, Millone, and Berrios set to join.

I also like the White Sox. Ventura is another favorite of mine. Frazier, Rollins, Lawrie join Abreu, Eaton and Garcia to form a really formidable lineup. Sale, Rodon, Quintana is as good as any top 3 in baseball.

In my opinion these two teams have the best chance of winning that division/clinching a wildcard.

To me, Milwaukee is far worse off than the Reds, and I would rather bet against them. I really can't overemphasize how awful the Brewers are. Chris Carter, Kirk Niewenheis, and Aaron Hill are all in the mix for opening day. Their rotation and bullpen are also in the bottom 5. Imagine if Braun misses time. Even with him, 70 wins or less. Guaranteed.

**Regul8er** · 03-29-16, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow

under 70 wins for 4 units

$120 to win $104.35

They are in a super tough division as it is , and only won 64 games last year
Now they got rid of their best pitcher , best closer,Todd Frazier and Mike Leake as well (who is underrated)
Jay Bruce is going to be traded this year and possibly Brandon Phillips as well
Their initial number 1 starter Anthony Desclafani is out indefinitely with oblique injury
which only adds more question marks to a very subpar rotation

Billy Hamilton can be scary but he cant steal first.... can he ?
Guy has horrid OBP and hits the ball in the air too often .
Votto is Votto, going to do his thing but he doesnt drive in many runs

A 6 month bet for only $104.35?? That means essentially you are playing $0.65 per game....

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 03-29-16, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Regul8er

A 6 month bet for only $104.35?? That means essentially you are playing $0.65 per game....

no.....a normal bet for me is around 20 bucks on average
these are just fun to me , im only locking up a percentage of my bankroll
and I usually come out ahead on these @ end of year.
Gl this year

**RollinDo** · 03-29-16, 11:19 AM

I have Zona (O 81.5) and Jays (O 86.5)
These Win totals are pretty tough.

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 03-29-16, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Breadloser

The Tigers play in the roughest division this year. There's no other division where all 5 teams expect to make the playoffs. Obviously they all wont, but all of the 5 teams have 90 win upside.

My favorite team by far is the Twins. Indians are the trendy pick, but I don't like that at all. Twins have one of the best managers in baseball. Lineup is loaded with young talent. In Park and Sano, I guarantee you have 70 homeruns. I loved the Murphy trade also. Rotation is very underrated with Gibson, Hughes, Santana, Millone, and Berrios set to join.

I also like the White Sox. Ventura is another favorite of mine. Frazier, Rollins, Lawrie join Abreu, Eaton and Garcia to form a really formidable lineup. Sale, Rodon, Quintana is as good as any top 3 in baseball.

In my opinion these two teams have the best chance of winning that division/clinching a wildcard.

To me, Milwaukee is far worse off than the Reds, and I would rather bet against them. I really can't overemphasize how awful the Brewers are. Chris Carter, Kirk Niewenheis, and Aaron Hill are all in the mix for opening day. Their rotation and bullpen are also in the bottom 5. Imagine if Braun misses time. Even with him, 70 wins or less. Guaranteed.

yeah Brew Crew is bad but Cincy is really bad and ALREADY hit by big injuries lol
Plus, I believe the Reds will be open to more trades.... Toronto already has huge interests in Jay Bruce
plus moving him makes perfect sense and they hinted at it a few times.

Brew Crew isnt a bad bet either... but I feel more confident personally on the Reds under.

As far as the Tigers, ur correct with the division
They also have the hardest first month schedule in the big leagues with many road games also
so if they can right the ship the first 30 games its lookin really good

**Fidel_CashFlow** · 03-29-16, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by RollinDo

I have Zona (O 81.5) and Jays (O 86.5)

These Win totals are pretty tough.

I know ....

btw Breadloser , The Twins are one of the 3 teams im having a dilemma with right now

I like all of the overs for the Twins over 79 (-115) , the Blue Jays over 86.5 (-120) , and the Astros over 87.5 (+105)

Im only betting two of those 3 because I dont want too many overs this year

thinking the Twins is going to be 1 of the 3 no matter what.... the Astros is tasty with the +105 ...

but the Blue Jays are offensive juggernauts like maybe never assembled in one lineup before

**RollinDo** · 03-29-16, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow

I know ....

btw Breadloser , The Twins are one of the 3 teams im having a dilemma with right now

I like all of the overs for the Twins over 79 (-115) , the Blue Jays over 86.5 (-120) , and the Astros over 87.5 (+105)

Im only betting two of those 3 because I dont want too many overs this year

thinking the Twins is going to be 1 of the 3 no matter what.... the Astros is tasty with the +105 ...

but the Blue Jays are offensive juggernauts like maybe never assembled in one lineup before

Yeah, I think as long as their starting pitching can hold their own, they'll be alright.
They usually play well in their division too, which appears slightly stronger, but I'm not sold on the Red Sox.

I feel that Zona (81.5) is a trap and I fell into it...kind of like Seattle last season.

**astro61200** · 03-29-16, 12:31 PM

I never bet win totals as I hate having too much money tied up for so long.. That doesn't mean I'm not good at them though, I'll pull up 5D and see what we have to work with

**astro61200** · 03-29-16, 12:54 PM

First thing I notice, when looking at futures, is this:

Over 110 home runs	<input id="editx" name="C_493" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -105
Under 110 home runs	<input id="editx" name="C_494" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -115

Pretty good odds that Arenado ends up with less than 110 HR's this season

**astro61200** · 03-29-16, 01:24 PM

Braves u65.5 +125
Red Sox u86.5 +105
Cubs o93.5 -105
Reds u70.5 -155
Rockies u71.5 -150
Tigers o81.5 -130
Astros o88.5 +130
Royals u84.5 +100
Brewers o70.5 +105
A's o75.5 -140
Phillies u64.5 +145
Cardinals u86.5 -145
Rays o82.5 +115
Rangers u83.5 +100
Nationals o88.5 -125

That's what I came up with.. if I were planning on betting them (and I might now) I'd check more indepth and probably knock a few off though I was pleased to see that my overs and unders were even (8 unders to 7 overs) so that tells me I'm not being unrealistic

Also came up with these futures:

U51.5 Doubles -145
Stanton o36.5 HR -135
Longoria u23.5 HR -145
Kyle Schwarber u27.5 HR +105

Dallas Keuchel o14.5 W -135

**Breadloser** · 03-29-16, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow

I know ....

btw Breadloser , The Twins are one of the 3 teams im having a dilemma with right now

I like all of the overs for the Twins over 79 (-115) , the Blue Jays over 86.5 (-120) , and the Astros over 87.5 (+105)

Im only betting two of those 3 because I dont want too many overs this year

thinking the Twins is going to be 1 of the 3 no matter what.... the Astros is tasty with the +105 ...

but the Blue Jays are offensive juggernauts like maybe never assembled in one lineup before

The Blue Jays lineup is not historic at all. Consider some of the Bombers teams with Jeter, Arod,Matsui, and Cano. Their pitching is awful. Also, where are they going to play Jay Bruce? Encarnacion plays 1st and Collobello is the DH. If they are going to empty the cupboards, it better be for a pitcher. The Yankees interest me the most in the AL East. I like to bet on good managers, check. Good pitching, check. The lineup a ton of upside there with Ellsbury, Castro, Beltran, and the rest of them.

**Breadloser** · 03-29-16, 03:05 PM

* another team I'm very high on is the Marlins. You have a division with two potential also-ran teams which is always good for picking an over. This team will be good, and now they have a respected manager who's coming off two division wins out west. It should signify a regime change and tell the players that the games count starting this season. Bonds doesn't hurt either. The Marlins have excellent starting pitching. Their lineup should be above average in terms of runs scored and they play elite defense at almost every position. To me, the NL East is a 3 team race, not the h2h people percieve.

**Regul8er** · 03-29-16, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Breadloser

* another team I'm very high on is the Marlins. You have a division with two potential also-ran teams which is always good for picking an over. This team will be good, and now they have a respected manager who's coming off two division wins out west. It should signify a regime change and tell the players that the games count starting this season. Bonds doesn't hurt either. The Marlins have excellent starting pitching. Their lineup should be above average in terms of runs scored and they play elite defense at almost every position. To me, the NL East is a 3 team race, not the h2h people percieve.

I like the Marlins offense.....but why do you say they have excellent starting pitching? When healthy Fernandez is fantastic. Chen was good last year, but was fortunate. After that you have Cosart, Koehler and COnley......none have ever really showed much of anything.

If you hit this one...I wish you the best of luck.

**jjgold** · 03-29-16, 11:53 PM

I bet if you take under in every team you might turn a small profit

**Breadloser** · 03-30-16, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by Regul8er

I like the Marlins offense.....but why do you say they have excellent starting pitching? When healthy Fernandez is fantastic. Chen was good last year, but was fortunate. After that you have Cosart, Koehler and COnley......none have ever really showed much of anything.

If you hit this one...I wish you the best of luck.

That's fair. Excellent was probably a reach. I am looking for a big jump from Cosart, plus at least one of their other rotation candidates. I believe this is an 85 win team, and I think they have to try to pursue that end through trades during the season if necessary. They've lost touch with the fan base down there. Don't think Mattingly would've went down to that sauna if there weren't certain promises made. To me, you also have the benefit of all those games vs the Phillies and Braves - this over is a total layup.

**Breadloser** · 03-30-16, 01:12 AM

* Arizona is another OVER I am looking at. Chalky, but they are also my pick to win the NL West. The Rotation is almost as formidable as the lineup which plays boasts two superstars in Pollack and Goldschmidt. Lots of reinforcements, and excellent defense up the middle. Stewart will also need to be aggressive because the fans have expectations this year. I really don't know who would bet against this club's chances or why.

**Breadloser** · 03-30-16, 01:27 AM

So far, I've picked OVER for the Twins, White Sox, Astros, Marlins, Dbacks, Yankees, and Nationals.

The UNDERS I like are the Brewers, Giants, Indians, A's, Jays, Royals and Mets.

As far as the Mets, I think Harvey poisoned the well with his stupid antics last November. My gut feeling is that Cespedes will regress after signing that contract. Also, bullpens are not the hardest to fix, but you have Reed, Bastardo, Carlyle in the setup mix - I don't really get it. They may get the WC, but Nationals are my pick for the NL East. If I was Alderson I would have traded Harvey. Find some team thirsting for an ace and try to get back some of the young talent they traded last summer. The guy they moved to get Cespedes, Michael Fullmer, he's going to be the Tigers ace for a long time. History will see that trade as a big loss. I think that Jeff Wilson absolutely forced his hand with that trade.

**VegasPlayer** · 03-30-16, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by Breadloser

* Arizona is another OVER I am looking at. Chalky, but they are also my pick to win the NL West. The Rotation is almost as formidable as the lineup which plays boasts two superstars in Pollack and Goldschmidt. Lots of reinforcements, and excellent defense up the middle. Stewart will also need to be aggressive because the fans have expectations this year. I really don't know who would bet against this club's chances or why.

Team went public with wanting to break their stadium lease last week. Bonehead move IMO 10 days before opening day. Whether that makes a difference on the field remains to be seen, but a distraction nonetheless.

**cankid** · 03-30-16, 04:42 AM

they should be solid as long as they stay healthy, talk about timing on the lease thing

**astro61200** · 03-30-16, 12:30 PM

How is no one talking about taking the Braves under? 66 wins is going to be difficult for that team and it's +125.. same with the Phillies at 64.5 +145

One, if not both, of those will go under. Even a split results in a profit.

**newguy** · 03-30-16, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by astro61200

How is no one talking about taking the Braves under? 66 wins is going to be difficult for that team and it's +125.. same with the Phillies at 64.5 +145

One, if not both, of those will go under. Even a split results in a profit.

Braves move to new stadium next year. They aren't gonna make run this year anyway so assuming they are trying to prep talent for a strong year first one in new stadium under seems right.