[sam9ball]

WSOP Standings as of 03/26

OK Boys you have 16 actual days to make it on the top 50 list for the final Tournament.
That's 48 tournaments to help boost you in the standings.

	26-Mar
#	User	Total Points	Cashes
1	JAKEPEAVY21	3550	10
2	NOYEBOY	3450	13
3	sportfan	2800	11
4	BiTeMeUsAdOj	2650	12
5	oneunder	2550	9
6	AutoDonk	2500	9
7	ArunSh	2400	10
8	Triple_D_Bet	2300	8
9	stevek173	2250	9
10	sinmiedo	2050	7
11	GUMMO77	2000	9
12	Honeybadger44	2000	10
13	imack	2000	9
14	joevig	1950	8
15	milwaukee_mike	1950	7
16	shane	1900	7
17	BeerDog99	1800	10
18	cabo	1750	7
19	empiremaker	1750	5
20	playersonly69	1750	5
21	aggieshawn	1700	7
22	GaryDN	1700	10
23	oiler	1650	9
24	ninjagorn	1600	9
25	ShogunRua	1600	6
26	jdwars	1550	7
27	mikemca	1550	7
28	pokerpro44	1550	6
29	spider	1550	9
30	zacharyj53	1550	6
31	gauchojake	1500	10
32	mp5070	1500	10
33	yisman	1450	6
34	juanquintero	1400	4
35	thetrinity	1400	9
36	blackbart	1350	8
37	dankelly	1350	7
38	kidk	1350	5
39	Stefan	1350	7
40	bobbywaves	1300	7
41	jack_matz	1300	8
42	dare	1250	4
43	SomeDayinBuffalo	1250	6
44	zwoeins	1250	7
45	ericthegangster	1200	4
46	JediMindPicks	1200	9
47	mikejamm	1200	3
48	toughone	1200	3
49	HomerSimpson2	1150	3
50	JohnGalt2341	1150	5
51	spurginobili1	1150	8
52	TheMoneyShot	1150	7
53	willpower	1150	6
54	BigDaddy	1100	5
55	Blacke	1100	3
56	frankzig	1100	5
57	JayTris07	1100	3
58	laz	1100	8
59	p0kerdynamix	1100	6
60	horja1	1050	6
61	katstale	1050	5
62	slanina	1050	7
63	Poker_beast	1000	7
64	bet_that_all	950	5
65	hhsilver	950	7
66	theantfather	950	6
67	d2bets	900	5
68	panamabrad	900	3
69	philthethrill	900	3
70	secretstash	900	6
71	b1slickguy	850	4
72	deadphish	850	9
73	Heandog	850	4
74	MillerTime99	850	4
75	mpaschal34	850	6
76	Optional	850	4
77	Stifler	850	4
78	Brainfreeze	800	6
79	brooks85	800	4
80	SharpAngles	800	5
81	kjh	750	3
82	sportsfun	750	5
83	goofyre	700	3
84	vivekpandey	700	2
85	warpednexus	700	2
86	Carseller4	650	3
87	pureajb	650	2
88	xJetFanx	650	3
89	clayfro	600	2
90	codone69	600	2
91	DCTrue	600	4
92	eSTOXX	600	2
93	konck	600	5
94	vladfan	600	4
95	BestPlay2day	550	4
96	chico2663	550	2
97	dakujito	550	2
98	BackInTimee	500	1
99	brutal	500	1
100	darys	500	4

[sinmiedo]

A lot of tide positions, how would SBR will brake them?.

[SharpAngles]

SBR Forum was quite confident there would be no ties. So confident they decided not to lay out any tie breakers and actually offered a bet points wager that it wouldn't happen. I snap called but never heard anything after so whatever.

Shows the level of poker sophistication around here when they look at half the players in the top 100 being tied and feel so sure there won't be at least 2 tied to get in.

[bobbywaves]

WSOP Standings as of 03/26

OK Boys you have 16 actual days to make it on the top 50 list for the final Tournament.

Until the disqualified POS69 is removed from standings, it's top 51.

That's 48 tournaments to help boost you in the standings.

Not exactly Sammy, we can only play 16 of those 48 tourney's.

[bobbywaves]

A lot of tide positions, how would SBR will brake them?.

According to this post, there's no tiebreakers in place: Spider to answer your questions you are correct...

So it's possible final tourney could have 55 players instead of 50.

[frankzig]

That's 48 tournaments to help boost you in the standings.



NOT 48 tourny's
Still only 16 since can only play once a day

[sam9ball]

Is it possible for a guy to get a break around here. When I first took this shit over it was nothing but praises for doing such a good job.
Now all I get is a shitload of crap because I make a generalized statement.

That's 48 tournaments to help boost you in the standings.

You don't see me going around nit picking about you and all the grammatical errors you guys post. We're not in High School (or at least I thought we were all gramuated.)

[sinmiedo]

Is it possible for a guy to get a break around here. When I first took this shit over it was nothing but praises for doing such a good job.
Now all I get is a shitload of crap because I make a generalized statement.

That's 48 tournaments to help boost you in the standings.

You don't see me going around nit picking about you and all the grammatical errors you guys post. We're not in High School (or at least I thought we were all gramuated.)

Sam: Is bobby typing !!!!!! ( you know he does not talk in person)

[sinmiedo]

According to this post, there's no tiebreakers in place: Spider to answer your questions you are correct...

So it's possible final tourney could have 55 players instead of 50.

Again Bobby, txs for your input, but I want to know SBR point of view on it.

[bobbywaves]

Again Bobby, txs for your input, but I want to know SBR point of view on it.

I linked you SBRs point of view in post #5.

[bobbywaves]

Sam: Is bobby typing !!!!!! ( you know he does not talk in person)

If I choose not to talk to arrogant folks in person, that's my prerogative.

[spider]

problem solved.



http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...den-death.html

[sinmiedo]

If I choose not to talk to arrogant folks in person, that's my prerogative.

no problem.
I just wonder how do you do in situations that you must talk to yourself.
best regards
and have good day.
Sinmiedo

[SharpAngles]

Is it possible for a guy to get a break around here.

Welcome to repping a site that sh*ts all over its players

Is it possible for the players to get a break around here too?

Hand for Hand has been turned on at 15 players as long as I've been here and no joke I've seen at least 100 complaints in that time but no action taken. Yesterdays evening tourney was stuck on 15 players for over 10 minutes and in that time we saw 7 hands and lost over 8 minutes of clock between the 200-400 and 300-600 levels. F'n ridiculous!

Won't even mention 2 stiffs still in the standings, rampant softplay and SBR refusing to acknowledge there is a high likelyhood of multiple ties and set out some form of tie breaker.

Fix this nonsense and maybe you start getting a break!

[bobbywaves]

I just wonder how do you do in situations that you must talk to yourself.
best regards
and have good day.
Sinmiedo

I excel in those situations, have a good day.

Best regards,

Waves

[daneblazer]

Still have what I started the year with...


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[stevek173]

Daner miss you at the tables dude

[Auto Donk]

That's 48 tournaments to help boost you in the standings.

too bad playersonly69 is banned, as he would see this statement as SBR's authorization to play in all three trnies each day, for the next 16 weekdays...........

[broadway6]

good luck all

[p0kerdynamix]

Goodluck everyone may the odds me in my favor

[bobbywaves]

Is it possible for a guy to get a break around here. When I first took this shit over it was nothing but praises for doing such a good job.
Now all I get is a shitload of crap because I make a generalized statement.

That's 48 tournaments to help boost you in the standings.

You don't see me going around nit picking about you and all the grammatical errors you guys post. We're not in High School (or at least I thought we were all gramuated.)

The generalized statement in bold was misleading, it was simply clarified to benefit the many unaware newbies participating in this great promo.

Why take it so personal? Nobody denies you're doing a good job around here, the tie breaker sudden death tourney was a nice addition.

[Optional]

Welcome to repping a site that sh*ts all over its players

Is it possible for the players to get a break around here too?

Hand for Hand has been turned on at 15 players as long as I've been here and no joke I've seen at least 100 complaints in that time but no action taken. Yesterdays evening tourney was stuck on 15 players for over 10 minutes and in that time we saw 7 hands and lost over 8 minutes of clock between the 200-400 and 300-600 levels. F'n ridiculous!

Won't even mention 2 stiffs still in the standings, rampant softplay and SBR refusing to acknowledge there is a high likelyhood of multiple ties and set out some form of tie breaker.

Fix this nonsense and maybe you start getting a break!

Is the hand for hand at 15 really a problem? If it was an easy fix obviously it would have been done. Right now it's hardly noticeable most of the time as people are still playing normally at that stage. Your tourney might be an exception but is it really bad enough to justify ripping back into the guy who just asked for people to lay of him a little?

I'm not sure what kind of break you really want as a player. We get given $100-$200 per day in prizes for no entry fee and a damn good shot at $8.5k worth of WSOP seat. Probably 50k+ is put into the poker prizes each year.

The software may not be perfect and maybe it isn't policed very well but this is supposed to be a fun free sideline to a sports forum, if SBR can't or won't fix the hand for hand for whatever reason it's time to just deal with that inconvenience instead of attack any SBR rep unfortunate enough to have their name associated with any responsibility for poker.

I've mentioned this before, but it really does seem like the people who like poker the most here also do the most to bash it and least to promote it. It may not be perfect. It is what it is, but I bet it won't be anything eventually if all it brings is negativity.

[sinmiedo]

Is the hand for hand at 15 really a problem? If it was an easy fix obviously it would have been done. Right now it's hardly noticeable most of the time as people are still playing normally at that stage. Your tourney might be an exception but is it really bad enough to justify ripping back into the guy who just asked for people to lay of him a little?

I'm not sure what kind of break you really want as a player. We get given $100-$200 per day in prizes for no entry fee and a damn good shot at $8.5k worth of WSOP seat. Probably 50k+ is put into the poker prizes each year.

The software may not be perfect and maybe it isn't policed very well but this is supposed to be a fun free sideline to a sports forum, if SBR can't or won't fix the hand for hand for whatever reason it's time to just deal with that inconvenience instead of attack any SBR rep unfortunate enough to have their name associated with any responsibility for poker.

I've mentioned this before, but it really does seem like the people who like poker the most here also do the most to bash it and least to promote it. It may not be perfect. It is what it is, but I bet it won't be anything eventually if all it brings is negativity.

you are right opti, many guys here forget the big charity SBR is doing. sbr spend the money for a soft, give the players points and freeroll poker torunaments 6 times a day where we can get the enjoyment for free and they put togheter a bash once a year with 5000 freeroll treating us like kings!!. the 15 players hand per hand does not influence at all, what really does annoy is players that goes all in at the first stages of a tournaments, the stiffs that never payback, the colluders, and the phanthom accounts that play several tournaments a day.
SBR could do some changes, but if they have another priorities, so be it, is their house, their rules. If I or any of us poker entusiasts, offer a game at my/their place and get annoying by peoples that complain for small issues guess what is going to happen, i/we cancelled and move on to do other things.
this is my oppinion, and many players that i know may get offended, but, i also have the right to differ.
have all a great day and enjoy the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SharpAngles]

Is the hand for hand at 15 really a problem? If it was an easy fix obviously it would have been done. Right now it's hardly noticeable most of the time as people are still playing normally at that stage. Your tourney might be an exception but is it really bad enough to justify ripping back into the guy

I didn't realize I was ripping into him, thought I was just giving him some answers to HIS "complaining", lol how ironic! Seeing as SBR rarely gives that respect to the players!

And if fixing the H4H is such a technical challenge how about SBR says something, anything, to let the players know. We'd probably all stop "complaining" if there was a little communication about that or maybe some other issues like a deadbeat pos who ripped off SBR themselves yet still sits on the leaderboard for their contest.

Sure im not the only one curious about the decision on that last one, if there was any. Maybe if somebody, anybody, at SBR gave an answer we'd all stop "complaining"

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

And if fixing the H4H is such a technical challenge how about SBR says something, anything, to let the players know.

It's not a technical challenge... trust me.

[cankid]

GL down the stretch, wish good things to guys i know well, JPeavy, Beerdog and Blackbart, have a good stretch run

[Optional]

I didn't realize I was ripping into him, thought I was just giving him some answers to HIS "complaining", lol how ironic! Seeing as SBR rarely gives that respect to the players!

And if fixing the H4H is such a technical challenge how about SBR says something, anything, to let the players know. We'd probably all stop "complaining" if there was a little communication about that or maybe some other issues like a deadbeat pos who ripped off SBR themselves yet still sits on the leaderboard for their contest.

Sure im not the only one curious about the decision on that last one, if there was any. Maybe if somebody, anybody, at SBR gave an answer we'd all stop "complaining"

Honestly I find it hard to believe having the right person say "we can't change it right now" would do anything to reduce the attacks. But if it helps you personally, you can take it from me that the hand for hand probably won't be fixed real soon. If the resources to do it were available it would be done. Hopefully it will be one day.

And please don't take this as an attack but you say you didn't realize you were ripping into Sam;

Welcome to repping a site that sh*ts all over its players

Is it possible for the players to get a break around here too?

Hand for Hand has been turned on at 15 players as long as I've been here and no joke I've seen at least 100 complaints in that time but no action taken. Yesterdays evening tourney was stuck on 15 players for over 10 minutes and in that time we saw 7 hands and lost over 8 minutes of clock between the 200-400 and 300-600 levels. F'n ridiculous!

Won't even mention 2 stiffs still in the standings, rampant softplay and SBR refusing to acknowledge there is a high likelyhood of multiple ties and set out some form of tie breaker.

Fix this nonsense and maybe you start getting a break!

^^^ This is ripping into Sam. Particularly in response to him asking to be cut come slack. And you know a tiebreaker was setup before you posted this. Yet still feel the need to add that too. Sam organized that btw. You can call me biased all you like but it doesn't change the fact almost all of you who keep claiming it's only some other minority that complain unreasonably speak like this consistently.

I also wish you would think about this stuff a little more before saying things like SBR "sh*ts all over its players" : "We get given $100-$200 per day in prizes for no entry fee and a damn good shot at $8.5k worth of WSOP seat. Probably 50k+ is put into the poker prizes each year."

And look back at what you say counts as "shiiting on you" anyway. It appears to be because no one of a correct rank will explain themselves to you about why the poker client isn't recoded, a couple of people that should be banned in your opinion, and an issue that was already fixed. Seriously, I like you but that's just ridiculous. SBR isn't shitting on you or doing anything bad to you.

You can help break the cycle of negativity if you choose. Rather than post stuff like that message, answer people who post stuff like that and explain how little these small issues matter compared to what we get in return.

I'm only typing all this and willing to take the fallout from speaking out because I care about SBR Poker and want it to get bigger. Not just to stand up for Sam or have go at you. You just happen to be the one that made the most appropriate post to reply to this time.

It's not a technical challenge... trust me.

Do you really know that? From the little I know it certainly is.

There is no conspiracy to annoy people by not fixing things we all suggest. If it was simple it would be done.

[SharpAngles]

Opti,


I get it. I really do. To be fair I was writing that response when Sam posted the tiebreak update and would not have brought that up. In fact gave him some positive vibes in that thread because I'm not trying to give the guy a hard time I'm trying to get this place fixed so when someone wears the logo on ESPN and all the TV poker nerds start flooding in they actually play more than once.

And as as far as shyting on players, in the WSOP contest I'm currently tied the with a guy who not only has ripped off players and SBR themselves, has also been on the forums bragging about it asking why people are upset about pennies. I feel shat on seeing his name on the board and I'm not the only one.

I'm only typing all this and willing to take the fallout from speaking out because I care about SBR Poker and want it to get bigger.

This is the same reason a lot of us type what we do as well.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Do you really know that?

Yep

From the little I know it certainly is.

Nope

There is no conspiracy to annoy people by not fixing things we all suggest.

I haven't read anyone suggest there was a conspiracy -- have you?

If it was simple it would be done.

We'll agree to disagree here, I guess.

It's viewed as unimportant, that's why nothing has been done.
First there has to be a "want to" before something is acted upon.

Hey listen, Opti... you're sticking up for SBR, you're an employee, understandable.
I'm sticking up for players, I'm a player, understandable.
We both haven't liked what each "side" has said/implied about the other (at times).
Let no one lose focus that plenty of good peeps are running 'round on both sides.

This H4H issue isn't even Top 3 of players' concerns: vigilance in maintaining contest(s) integrity, better communication/not feeling ignored (various issues) by SBR, a simple heads up on any dramatic changes in format (and listening to players' input to perhaps improve on those changes), etc. are all far more important to players than this H4H stuff.

I'm not even saying I've agreed w/all the opinions from the players, because I haven't. BUT, it rankles me when those opinions are quickly dismissed as "whining" and "complaining". I view that as out-of-bounds and unfair... as you similarly have viewed things said about SBR.

Appreciation and respect for one another still exists on both sides (players and SBR) -- that isn't something that's in dispute (I don't believe).

[SharpAngles]

#HanlonsRazor

[Optional]

It's not understandable that you write off my opinion again with the employee line. I've been saying these things since before I did work for SBR and although putting my hand out for a check means I give loyalty, that extends to not trashing or betraying them. It does not mean I feel some need to "defend them". Which I aren't so much doing as attacking the rudeness and negativity of the locals anyway.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

I've been saying these things since before I did work for SBR

Can you (please) post a link substantiating this particular point (post from you saying essentially the same things as now) BEFORE you became an employee?

I'm not impugning the veracity of what you say here; it'd be interesting for comparing/contrasting.

Which I aren't so much doing as attacking the rudeness and negativity of the locals anyway.

"rudeness and negativity" is simply your interpretation of things, not facts.
Others would counter they had to be forceful and repetitive simply to be heard (in order to correct a wrong).

I just suggested that can be the only logical thing you must think. As you seem sure its not a tech issue and can be changed easily.

What do you think is going on then if it's not being ignored just to annoy people?

Laziness? Idiocy? Any theory?

Maybe you're wrong?

And I'm afraid the last line is exactly what I am disputing. It seems like you might be the one blinded by bias here.

Respectfully, none of this (what's quoted now) makes much sense.

I gave a complete, pithy and succinct reason already in my last post (which I will copy & paste):

It's viewed as unimportant, that's why nothing has been done.
First there has to be a "want to" before something is acted upon.

[Optional]

I don't like the back n forth games Bite. If you don't believe me or recall then bad luck. But either way, fukk you for saying it again. (and btw, I do know enough about what is going on to know you are full of shit claiming what you claim to know as fact about the software. I did not expect bald faced lies from you.)

I edited the rest out because I went back and saw your pithy yet ridiculous response and decided I was done wasting breath.

Carry on.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

I don't like the back n forth games Bite.

...thought we were talking here.
What are you talking about?
"games"?
We talked about fleshing things out; your silly accusation here is baseless and will be viewed by most as your inability to keep up with the conversation, and an attempt to control the conversation in the manner you want, only.

Sorry, but I actually get to participate in a supposed "conversation".

If you don't believe me or recall then bad luck

.

By your own admission, you've had some trouble reading what I've previously written. Let me reiterate something I've already said:
copy/paste last post:"I'm not impugning the veracity of what you say here"

Pretty straight forward

But either way, fuckk you for saying it again.

Ah yes, as the civility train is run off the rails by (not the poster), but rather, the SBR MOD.
Nice... very nice. Thus validating many points already brought up by me and other posters, as well.
Well, you did only promise not to swear @ milwaukeemike and not me so.......

(and btw, I do know enough about what is going on to know you are full of shit claiming what you claim to know as fact about the software. I did not expect bald faced lies from you.)

Yet more civility... impressive. KUDOS

You sure seem to have learned a lot in the last few hours, however, because previously you appeared to concede you weren't sure if it was difficult or not, merely an assumption. Now, apparently, you miraculously know all that *I KNOW* and are prepared to call me "full of shit" (civility! KUDOS!) and putting forth "bald face lies" (civility! KUDOS!).

You can disagree with my knowledge (and be clueless how I've obtained such; hint: don't need to be privy to anything SBR to know/acquire general knowledge about particular software... did you know that?) BUT, disagreeing is one thing... and calling me a liar and full of shit is quite another.
Appreciate your civil tone, tho.

I edited the rest out because I went back and saw your pithy yet ridiculous response and decided I was done wasting breath.

Carry on.

1. My response wasn't ridiculous, and others will agree. You've offered no proof to discredit it, just huffing & puffing.
2. Your editing proves you had a hard time reading/comprehending what I've written.
3. You concretely have now proved what I & others have previously contended: for, in fact, the person responsible for destroying the civil discussion here is you ("fukk you", "full of shit", "bald face lies")
4. I started the day off with a most conciliatory post.

Your exit strategy... complete.

CONGRATULATIONS.

[broadway6]

bite, did you pound utah 2h the other night???