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  • MagicDiceFlow
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    • 01-15-12
    • 4585

    #1
    Serena Williams +150 to win French Open 2013
    Looks like the opening futures line for Serena is +150. I was thinking this would have been close to even money but +150 is too juicy to pass up. I bet this will get pounded down to even money in a few days.

    I can't see a surer bet on the women's side. Only thing you have to worry about is an injury because no one on this planet is beating Serena on clay this year.
  • baconbets
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    • 05-11-13
    • 329

    #2
    garbine muguruza will destroy serena, but her futures line isnt available yet since she has to qualify first. technicalities.

    on a more serious note, i think li na can hang with serena on clay. i'd like to see the draws first.
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    • MagicDiceFlow
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      • 01-15-12
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      #3
      Originally posted by baconbets
      garbine muguruza will destroy serena, but her futures line isnt available yet since she has to qualify first. technicalities.

      on a more serious note, i think li na can hang with serena on clay. i'd like to see the draws first.
      Li Na will get overpowered by Williams. It will be a bloodbath. The only person I can see possibly getting more than 6 games off Williams is Sharapova on an extremely lucky day. I'm talking about the moon and stars have to be aligned just right and Serena having cramps and even then Williams may still pound her silly.
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      • ohumad
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        • 05-19-12
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        #4
        On it! Looked like it dropped +100 after the tourney win. Wish I grabbed that jooocy booty @ the 5.00 opening.
        Originally posted by baconbets
        garbine muguruza will destroy serena, but her futures line isnt available yet since she has to qualify first. technicalities.

        on a more serious note, i think li na can hang with serena on clay. i'd like to see the draws first.
        Like bacon bits btw but love strips even more. I would also agree that the most likely person to beat Williams on clay is Li Na but as of late she has not been playing well. Cibulkova is someone to watch out for to upset Azarenka or Sharapova but she has too much trouble with other players I wouldn't expect her to go the distance.
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        • Vinnie Paz
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          • 03-27-12
          • 12177

          #5
          Guys how long is the french open last?
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          • baconbets
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            • 05-11-13
            • 329

            #6
            not sure which books everyone uses but bovada has had french open futures for weeks now. they have wimbledon and US open futures as well. serena has been a little better than even money for a while now, +120 for all 3 events.

            for futures bettors who dont care about seeing a draw first, this is the time to grab nadal at +400 for the US open and wimbledon. those odds are guaranteed to come down.
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            • BrianLaverty
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              • 07-02-07
              • 2183

              #7
              Originally posted by MagicDiceFlow
              The only person I can see possibly getting more than 6 games off Williams is Sharapova on an extremely lucky day. .
              She has lost sets to jankovic and 6-0 to Anabel medina garrigues in the clay season.

              Lets not forget she was dominant in rome and Madrid last year, but lost the first round of French open.

              I will give u +500 on a bet that she doesn't lose a set.
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              • EaglesPhan36
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 12-06-06
                • 71662

                #8
                I won't be arguing that the +150 won't give you great options throughout the tournament, able to hedge whenever you see fit - but the fact that Serena has only won the French Open once makes me think the actual outcome is still anything but a sure thing. This has been by far the toughest Slam for her over the years.

                She is playing terrific tennis for sure, but the French always seems to spring surprises on the WTA side.
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                • MagicDiceFlow
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                  • 01-15-12
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                  I won't be arguing that the +150 won't give you great options throughout the tournament, able to hedge whenever you see fit - but the fact that Serena has only won the French Open once makes me think the actual outcome is still anything but a sure thing. This has been by far the toughest Slam for her over the years.

                  She is playing terrific tennis for sure, but the French always seems to spring surprises on the WTA side.
                  The only surprise I see is Serena maybe losing 2 sets max throughout the entire tournament. She may have a hiccup here and there but nothing severe match threatening. Not the way she's been beasting on this surface. This is like the best form I've seen her in years on clay. It wasnt supposed to on this surface but even her serve is unreturnable. Chicks got no chance if the serve is on cue among other things to worry about from Serena.
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                  • MagicDiceFlow
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                    • 01-15-12
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BrianLaverty
                    She has lost sets to jankovic and 6-0 to Anabel medina garrigues in the clay season.

                    Lets not forget she was dominant in rome and Madrid last year, but lost the first round of French open.

                    I will give u +500 on a bet that she doesn't lose a set.
                    I agree dude. I'm just saying she's the only nearest person in this Milky Way that holds the slightest chance. Azarenka's ground strokes have become unreliable the past 3 months. It will probably be a 6-4 6-3 clubbing from Serena if she meets Pova in the final.
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                    • secret007
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                      • 01-12-09
                      • 1786

                      #11
                      Serena is no doubt the best woman in the tour BY FAR, but betting on a woman to win a grandslam at +150 is .

                      I wont be surprised if she gets knocked out before Semi against a nobody. This is WTA.
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                      • MagicDiceFlow
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                        • 01-15-12
                        • 4585

                        #12
                        Originally posted by secret007
                        Serena is no doubt the best woman in the tour BY FAR, but betting on a woman to win a grandslam at +150 is .

                        I wont be surprised if she gets knocked out before Semi against a nobody. This is WTA.

                        There's a WTA and there's Serena Williams. They're not in the same class. She should have her own league.
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                        • Sport_Fish
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                          • 12-06-10
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                          #13
                          Its def. hard to make any arguments about any player on the tour beating her...but like you mentioned its all about the injury chances (as we saw in AO).

                          So the question comes down to whether you'd be willing to lay +150 on an injury not taking place. Because I think other than that, Williams should be as motivated as possible knowing she hasn't done too well in this tourny and this may be one of her very few remaining chances to win this trophy.

                          I think its def. worthy of a play but maybe not something to go crazy big on.
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                          • Hardcoar
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                            • 02-17-13
                            • 15606

                            #14
                            Absolutely horrible bet. Simply because she's "unbeatable" in a few matches at this very moment, you can't know that she'll continuously play this well for another three weeks or so.
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                            • aceking
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                              #15
                              got in at +187.5 .

                              Sharapova and Azarenka were both made to look like amatuers in last 2 finals .
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                              • Regul8er
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                                • 11-06-07
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                                #16
                                I watched Serena's match vs Azarenka SUnday.......and I thought I was watching Serena play an 18 year old from Bulgaria.
                                I just dont see how she losses a match if even slightly motivated.
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                                • secret007
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                                  • 01-12-09
                                  • 1786

                                  #17
                                  What were Serena's French Open pre-tournament odds in the last 8 years? I'm curious to know. She won only once her entire career and I'm pretty sure she was the favorite in more than one occasion.
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                                  • EaglesPhan36
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                                    • 12-06-06
                                    • 71662

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Regul8er
                                    I watched Serena's match vs Azarenka SUnday.......and I thought I was watching Serena play an 18 year old from Bulgaria.
                                    I just dont see how she losses a match if even slightly motivated.
                                    Problem is we can say that every Slam for her and look back to Australia. Admittedly more match play, but she rolled through Brisbane to a title and barely broke a sweat in four matches until the quarters when Stephens beat her.

                                    Again, not saying I would go against her or disagree that the price is right, just don't think this is like Rafa in his prime heading into the French where you question if he'd drop a set to anyone.
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                                    • ohumad
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                                      • 05-19-12
                                      • 2298

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by secret007
                                      What were Serena's French Open pre-tournament odds in the last 8 years? I'm curious to know. She won only once her entire career and I'm pretty sure she was the favorite in more than one occasion.
                                      S. Williams was the favourite in '12, '08, '03 at 3.50, 3.00, 2.80 odds respectively in the last 10 years.
                                      I believe the only woman to win as a favourite in the last 10 years was J. Henin in '07, '06, '05 at 2.63, 2.28, ?? odds respectively. Not sure if it means anything but interesting to know.
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                                      • gators0708
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                                        • 10-07-10
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                                        #20
                                        Got her at +300 on 5dimes on May 1st!!
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                                        • ohumad
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                          Absolutely horrible bet. Simply because she's "unbeatable" in a few matches at this very moment, you can't know that she'll continuously play this well for another three weeks or so.
                                          Who do you gt if anyone at all yet?
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                                          • BrianLaverty
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                                            • 07-02-07
                                            • 2183

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by gators0708
                                            Got her at +300 on 5dimes on May 1st!!
                                            Thats a # I would consider Serena at... +150 is just too little return to depend on a woman (though she might actually be a man) to be consistent for 7 matches.
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                                            • ohumad
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                                              • 05-19-12
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                                              #23
                                              Sharpova and Williams at 5.00 would have been the sht!
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                                              • Hardcoar
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                                                • 02-17-13
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ohumad
                                                Who do you gt if anyone at all yet?
                                                Jerzy and Stan. Taken quite some time ago though. I don't expect either to win, but if a men's upset were ever to occur at RG, this would be the year...

                                                Time to go all in on Halep?
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                                                • ohumad
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                                                  • 05-19-12
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                                  Jerzy and Stan. Taken quite some time ago though. I don't expect either to win, but if a men's upset were ever to occur at RG, this would be the year...

                                                  Time to go all in on Halep?
                                                  Hopefully Stan continues to improve. Yea Federer on the decline, and Nadal has seemed vulnerable this year although maybe that was laid to rest at Rome. Djoker with some early exits but that doesn't mean anything to me after Monte Carlo. I have good memories of Halep .
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                                                  • tropolis
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                                                    • 12-23-08
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                                                    #26
                                                    the only person who can beat serena is serena.
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                                                    • ohumad
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                                                      • 05-19-12
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                                                      #27
                                                      Looks like a lot of people have Serena futures.

                                                      MDF to bury the whole forum
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                                                      • Sport_Fish
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                                                        • 12-06-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ohumad
                                                        Hopefully Stan continues to improve. Yea Federer on the decline, and Nadal has seemed vulnerable this year although maybe that was laid to rest at Rome. Djoker with some early exits but that doesn't mean anything to me after Monte Carlo. I have good memories of Halep .


                                                        umm Nadal is having the best year on tour.
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                                                        • ohumad
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                                                          • 05-19-12
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Sport_Fish


                                                          umm Nadal is having the best year on tour.
                                                          Winning 5 of 6 finals- not good enough! That sht doesn't float with Uncle Toni! Better wording would be, Nadal is dominating on clay, but not at the same level as last year. He dropped 1 set in the entire clay season in '12 (French Open finals), ignoring his loss in Madrid on that blue stuff he hates. This year he's already dropped 4 since Monte Carlo ignoring the loss to Djoker in the Monte Carlo finals. He almost lost to Dimitrov at that tourney and Gulbis went toe to toe with him recently. It's funny that I'm making a deal of 4 sets but that's the standard he set.

                                                          IMO the value is on Djoker to win RG rather than Nadal if you had to take a future right now.
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                                                          • BrianLaverty
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                                                            #30
                                                            Nadal did not look dominant at all vs. Gulbis and Ferrer. If anything, I thought that was the worst he's looked on clay in a long time. Of course, then he went on to destroy Berdych and Federer, so not sure if you can make anything of it.

                                                            Remember though... its been 11 months since he's played a 5-setter... That might play huge when it comes to playing against Djokovic.
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                                                            • baconbets
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                                                              • 05-11-13
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                                                              #31
                                                              taking the serena future is like "buying high" in investing. she cant really do any better on clay than she already has. her performances so far are baked into her price. you are paying for the fact that she has done well this clay season, not whether she will continue to do well. none of the intangibles are on her side. her age, various illnesses, and activity level are all working against her.
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                                                              • innn
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by aceking
                                                                got in at +187.5 .

                                                                Sharapova and Azarenka were both made to look like amatuers in last 2 finals .
                                                                you are kidding from what I saw Azarenka made an amateurs of herself with kiddie first serve´literally offering points to Serena.That was not the play of ferocius Azarenka. I have to agree that is a horrible bet Serena is really beatable it just takes a laborius birth of a player during such slam and is done. I am not Azarenka's fanboy but I watched in the past other players beat Serena and I will watch it gladly again.
                                                                LAst year she was 1.01 and what could be more of a lock than 1.01 and got trashed by ....RAzzano?! maybe this time Cornet or some other?
                                                                I am biased towards skinnier females winning Rolland GArros preferrably ones that didn't win it already or nobody expects them to win
                                                                in the good tradition of last years
                                                                I admit she is fit but so she was in 2008 and got crushed by ...Srebotnik.
                                                                I hope Azarenka or for that matter any other player stings her when it matters most.
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                                                                • MagicDiceFlow
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  There's not much value on the men side right now that I can see. Djoker proved he can take Nadal out on clay at Monte Carlo so there's not really a clear cut winner, not anywhere near the value of Serena.
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                                                                  • Sharp Snake
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                                                                    • 11-11-12
                                                                    • 550

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ohumad
                                                                    Winning 5 of 6 finals- not good enough! That sht doesn't float with Uncle Toni! Better wording would be, Nadal is dominating on clay, but not at the same level as last year. He dropped 1 set in the entire clay season in '12 (French Open finals), ignoring his loss in Madrid on that blue stuff he hates. This year he's already dropped 4 since Monte Carlo ignoring the loss to Djoker in the Monte Carlo finals. He almost lost to Dimitrov at that tourney and Gulbis went toe to toe with him recently. It's funny that I'm making a deal of 4 sets but that's the standard he set.

                                                                    IMO the value is on Djoker to win RG rather than Nadal if you had to take a future right now.
                                                                    Please dont confuse his clay court results with Hard surfaces. Also, if you look at the draws he had in these 250s in Acalpoco and such, I'm not putting too much weight on, and there's no way I'd place a bet for a tournament 4 months from now given his recent injury history.
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                                                                    • aceking
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Azarenka can't win without dirty tricks .
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