My First Thread <3 – ATP and WTA picks

Hardcoar · 03-13-13, 07:58 PM

Gulbis @ 4.5 – 6 units

With Pinnacle.

CaptainOmar111 · 03-13-13, 08:58 PM

Nice to see you finally opened your personal thread !!!

I will now ask in your thread , not chatting with you at others threads LOL , Have a good luck man !!!

Hardcoar · 03-13-13, 09:04 PM

Luck only matters so much, but in the short run no doubt.

Thank you!

Michael_Flieger · 03-13-13, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Luck only matters so much, but in the short run no doubt.

Thank you!

Good luck, Hardcoar! Do you claim any particular expertise or focus?

Hardcoar · 03-13-13, 09:28 PM

Expertise: Absolutely not. Logical thinking: Yes.

Focus: Elaborate please.

CaptainOmar111 · 03-13-13, 09:33 PM

Help

@ Hardcoar - did Pinny asked any documents from you ?? I just joined and afraid they do not accept my arabic documents , also I contacted them and they told me they can not identify my documents but they said

" Note that your withdrawal options are Neteller, WebMoneys and Banks wire. Withdrawing funds through these payments DOES NOT require ID documentation. We hope that the matter is clarified now, and that it will not be raised again in the future. "

what should I do in your opinion ? I know it is not your thread idea , but sorry for that I should end this case

Michael_Flieger · 03-13-13, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Expertise: Absolutely not. Logical thinking: Yes.

Focus: Elaborate please.

Like swiss on doubles. Any particular thing, like totals, or ML or games, or players you have a particular bead on.

Hardcoar · 03-13-13, 09:56 PM

Contact them and solve everything before making any deposits. Make sure you suffer no restrictions on free withdrawals (one per calendar month by their rules) or your bankroll or risk anything. They are a serious company though for all I know so I would trust them if they made a promise. Just be sure to ask for confirmation if it's something important.

Start by asking them if you get free withdrawals without ID documentation, and what restrictions you suffer from it (lack of ID-documentation).

My exceptionally neutral and non-violent driver's license was all I had to provide them with IIRC, although I may have also uploaded a bank statement/utility bill. I'm not quite sure, as it was a long time ago. In fact I don't even know if they asked me for anything. Some bookies are more troublesome than others, but they could differentiate between different nationalities for sure. That's reality for you unfortunately...

Oh, and also I should warn you: DO NOT USE PINNACLE FOR PARLAYS. Parlays, while fun, are a bad idea in general, but Pinnacle have massive odds deductions when building parlays of any size. They have a 98 % payout on ML and set betting, however...

You might also want to check taxation laws and regulations for Egypt when betting outside the country.

Hardcoar · 03-13-13, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by Michael_Flieger

Like swiss on doubles. Any particular thing, like totals, or ML or games, or players you have a particular bead on.

Ah like a niche.

I never engage in doubles betting to be specific, and the rest is in my OP.

If you have any more questions about focus or otherwise after reading it, I'd be happy to answer them at that point!

CaptainOmar111 · 03-13-13, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Contact them and solve everything before making any deposits. Make sure you suffer no restrictions on free withdrawals (one per calendar month by their rules) or your bankroll or risk anything. They are a serious company though for all I know so I would trust them if they made a promise. Just be sure to ask for confirmation if it's something important.

Start by asking them if you get free withdrawals without ID documentation, and what restrictions you suffer from it (lack of ID-documentation).

My exceptionally neutral and non-violent driver's license was all I had to provide them with IIRC, although I may have also uploaded a bank statement/utility bill. I'm not quite sure, as it was a long time ago. In fact I don't even know if they asked me for anything. Some bookies are more troublesome than others, but they could differentiate between different nationalities for sure. That's reality for you unfortunately...

Oh, and also I should warn you: DO NOT USE PINNACLE FOR PARLAYS. Parlays, while fun, are a bad idea in general, but Pinnacle have massive odds deductions when building parlays of any size. They have a 98 % payout on ML and set betting, however...

You might also want to check taxation laws and regulations for Egypt when betting outside the country.

I do not make parlays at all !!! Iam on ML only at Tennis !!!

but this message means they will not ask me for documents !!! Iam sure you used CC or DC

" Note that your withdrawal options are Neteller, WebMoneys and Banks wire. Withdrawing funds through these payments DOES NOT require ID documentation. We hope that the matter is clarified now, and that it will not be raised again in the future. "

Hardcoar · 03-13-13, 10:26 PM

I have nothing to add. Please for your own sake read what I wrote in my last post.

CaptainOmar111 · 03-13-13, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

I have nothing to add. Please for your own sake read what I wrote in my last post.

Ok , I contacted them again !!! what method did you use to deposit ?

Hardcoar · 03-13-13, 10:42 PM

Debit-card. No fees, but there may be a built in currency exchange rate charge by your bank or the card issuer (or both). No, actually – just the bank. Pinnacle is the one taking it in the ass from the card conglomerates.

CaptainOmar111 · 03-14-13, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Debit-card. No fees, but there may be a built in currency exchange rate charge by your bank or the card issuer (or both). No, actually – just the bank. Pinnacle is the one taking it in the ass from the card conglomerates.

Ok cool , sorry about Gulbis !!! I wonder if you bet on +1,5 Gulbis @ 2.50 ... but anyway Good luck tomorrow specially with Federer against Nadal

Hardcoar · 03-14-13, 07:47 AM

No I did not.

Where were those odds? Rofl...

CaptainOmar111 · 03-14-13, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

No I did not.

Where were those odds? Rofl...

10bet.com !!! anyway , I wanna ask for your opinion today for Nadal X Federer !!! Nadal said yesterday after the match that he is not in that strength to win Roger tonight but he will do his best !!!

Hardcoar · 03-14-13, 09:35 AM

Nice odds in any case!

Doesn't Nadal always say he can't beat anyone? That statement doesn't mean much to me.

I'd give the slight edge to Federer and @ 1.85 I find value in him. Haven't decided on a bet yet, if I'll make any at all. I'm also considering Federer 1:st set if the odds appeal to me.

Demonata · 03-14-13, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Nice odds in any case!

Doesn't Nadal always say he can't beat anyone? That statement doesn't mean much to me.

I'd give the slight edge to Federer and @ 1.85 I find value in him. Haven't decided on a bet yet, if I'll make any at all. I'm also considering Federer 1:st set if the odds appeal to me.

If fed wins its because he wins firsts et in my opinion. He wont win a 3 setter in this match if nadal wins firsts et.

CaptainOmar111 · 03-14-13, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Nice odds in any case!

Doesn't Nadal always say he can't beat anyone? That statement doesn't mean much to me.

I'd give the slight edge to Federer and @ 1.85 I find value in him. Haven't decided on a bet yet, if I'll make any at all. I'm also considering Federer 1:st set if the odds appeal to me.

Same is here !!! Did not decide till now but thinking to take Roger Federer +1,5 Sets so if he wins any set , I hit it !!! @ 1.34

Hardcoar · 03-14-13, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

If fed wins its because he wins firsts et in my opinion. He wont win a 3 setter in this match if nadal wins firsts et.

I agree that would be much less likely. However, I think he is quite a lot likelier than Nadal to win 1:st.

Federer takes first and third sets is my call.

Hardcoar · 03-14-13, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Gulbis @ 4.5 – 6 units

With Pinnacle.

0-1
-6 units

Hardcoar · 03-14-13, 12:59 PM

Anderson @ 4.92 – 2 units
Federer 1:st set @ 1.91 – 4 units

With Pinnacle.

CaptainOmar111 · 03-14-13, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Anderson @ 4.92 – 2 units
Federer 1:st set @ 1.91 – 4 units

With Pinnacle.

Why it is not better ??? I agree that If Roger lost his 1st set , getting back will be hard but still it means any set should be OK !!! I will search more since last meeting between them was in here in Indian wells 2012 and Rafa without Injury LOST 2-0 !!!

Hardcoar · 03-14-13, 02:26 PM

That is correct.

(I believe) it is worse because there is less value in the odds.

Hardcoar · 03-15-13, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Anderson @ 4.92 – 2 units
Federer 1:st set @ 1.91 – 4 units

With Pinnacle.

F-f-f-failure.

0-3
-12 units.

CaptainOmar111 · 03-15-13, 06:37 AM

I do not know what is happening to Federer !!! I just watched the full match after my internet connection got back !!! horrible play !!! Hard Luck , Man

Hardcoar · 03-15-13, 07:39 AM

After getting one hour of sleep the night before I went to bed at a somewhat reasonable time last night, so I was unable to watch the match.

Perhaps Federer's back troubled him.

CaptainOmar111 · 03-15-13, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

After getting one hour of sleep the night before I went to bed at a somewhat reasonable time last night, so I was unable to watch the match.

Perhaps Federer's back troubled him.

My connection lost before the game starts with 9 hours or more so I did not bet !!! and I slept also but woke up when 1st set was 4-4 !!! so I did not bet and Iam praying because of that !!! I was going strongly @ 1,5+ sets for Roger but the GOD saved me !!! Thanks God

ohumad · 03-15-13, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by CaptainOmar111

My connection lost before the game starts with 9 hours or more so I did not bet !!! and I slept also but woke up when 1st set was 4-4 !!! so I did not bet and Iam praying because of that !!! I was going strongly @ 1,5+ sets for Roger but the GOD saved me !!! Thanks God

LOL! You gotta be good to be lucky and lucky to be good.

Hardcoar · 03-15-13, 03:45 PM

Tsonga to win first set @ 5.5 – 2 units

With Bet365.

ohumad · 03-15-13, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by Hardcoar

Tsonga to win first set @ 5.5 – 2 units

With Bet365.

You really are a gambling man

BOL

Hardcoar · 03-15-13, 04:35 PM

I am, but I don't mind as long as the bet isn't bad value, even though that's a matter of opinion as one may never know in the short run.

My reasoning is Tsonga can be really, really good, and it's hot as hell out there. Djokovic hasn't exactly been his usual gargoyle of stability in the last few matches either. In addition to which the odds are very high, of course.

Unfortunately, it appears Tsonga fails to impress tonight, while Djokovic looks like he is bashing noobs.

Hardcoar · 03-15-13, 04:58 PM

Nadal @ 1.58 – 10 units
Nadal 2-0 @ 2.47 – 8 units

With Pinnacle.

Hardcoar · 03-15-13, 05:05 PM

Del Potro @ 2.87 – 6 units

With Bet365.