Are you serious: Bonus whores (Video)

[Justin7]

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

If you don't take a bonus will books be less stringent asking for ID?

[Justin7]

If you don't take a bonus will books be less stringent asking for ID?

It depends. If they are a square book, they might still strip-search you; especially if you have a brain.

[ehp6737]

Great vid Justin. Keep up the good work

[relaaxx]

this happens all the time. a few asses, ruining a good thing for a huge amount of people playing by the rules.

[Legions36]

Hey man thats why i stick to only the good books and they dont care how many times i ask for reload bonuses.

[FourLengthsClear]

Good stuff.

[mrmarket]

These people aren't bonus whores they are just cheaters who take advantage of the bonus. Using bonuses is an legitimate avenue to make money as long as you play within the guidelines established by the book. In my experience books confiscating bonuses from advantage/occasionally lucky players is a worst problem.

[patswin]

interesting, sounds like fraud in most cases. I was wondering though about the database you mentinoed, is their one that sportsbooks use to check up on players? First time I had heard that

[secretstash]

where is fishhead when we need him

-stash

[Kindred]

You should change your title there is nothing wrong with bonus whores.

<------Proud Bonus Whore but never broke TOS

What you are referring to is called "gnoming" which is signing up under someone else's name in order to take advantage of a bonus multiple times. I've seen the term used with very +EV lucrative online casino bonuses in the past. A bonus whore, at least in online casinos just means you won't play without a +EV bonus. Gnoming is cheating to rape a casino offering a +EV bonus multiple times.

I have been thinking about gnoming sportsbooks - and the ethics of it. "Gnoming" being a term for creating multiple accounts at a site under different names so that one can take advantage of the bonuses more than once. I can't quite decide if it's ethical - or if the risk is worth it.

http://bullsbetting.com/Sportsblog/2006/07/gnoming_sportsbooks.html

Cheaters, or gnoming bonus cheats in this case ruin the good bonuses for everyone else..and also as Justin pointed out add hoops to jump through when claiming a bonus. I hope Karma treats them well

But Bonus whores are not cheats they just deposit at whatever site is offering the best bonus and aren't "loyal" to one site..nothing wrong with that and it actually increases competition between books to offer better bonuses.

[althelegend]

Thank you Justin, but I think we already knew what you are suggesting.

[FourLengthsClear]

You should change your title there is nothing wrong with bonus whores.

<------Proud Bonus Whore but never broke TOS

What you are referring to is called "gnoming" which is signing up under someone else's name in order to take advantage of a bonus multiple times. I've seen the term used with very +EV lucrative online casino bonuses in the past. A bonus whore, at least in online casinos just means you won't play without a +EV bonus. Gnoming is cheating to rape a casino offering a +EV bonus multiple times.

http://bullsbetting.com/Sportsblog/2006/07/gnoming_sportsbooks.html

Cheaters, or gnoming bonus cheats in this case ruin the good bonuses for everyone else..and also as Justin pointed out add hoops to jump through when claiming a bonus. I hope Karma treats them well

But Bonus whores are not cheats they just deposit at whatever site is offering the best bonus and aren't "loyal" to one site..nothing wrong with that and it actually increases competition between books to offer better bonuses.

"Gnoming" is serious business in sports betting too but not for the bonuses.

The most common MO is different to what Justin describes and I am not going to post it here. It is definitely cheating but there isn't much the books can do about it aside from making account verification an ongoing process rather than a one time check which would be a pain for every legitimate player.

[jjgold]

Most bonus whores are Fukkin scammers

I support zero bonuses

[BAUS]

Justin, how many SIA accounts do you have?

BAUS

[byronbb]

Wtf are these idiots trying to withdrawl for just scalp out!

[BAUS]

Wtf are these idiots trying to withdrawl for just scalp out!

Lol...it's just that easy isn't it?

BAUS

[byronbb]

Lol...it's just that easy isn't it?

BAUS

Yes?

[Monte]

Wtf are these idiots trying to withdrawl for just scalp out!

Dude, you can win at the wrong book ya know?
And if i don't trust a book fully (there are only a few you can trust, after all), i really don't want to risk ending up with a huge balance...

on topic, multiple ID bonus whores are scammers, the ones who stick with 1 account are smart people.

[mathdotcom]

What a joke

Justin is an admitted 'former' bonus whore

[mathdotcom]

Yes?

Uh what if you never lose at the book with the bonus?

[andywend]

But Bonus whores are not cheats they just deposit at whatever site is offering the best bonus and aren't "loyal" to one site..nothing wrong with that and it actually increases competition between books to offer better bonuses.

Kindred, bonus WHORES LIKE YOU result in books offering LOWER bonuses NOT higher.

I just assume books stop offering bonuses all together and instead reward loyalty as that would get rid of fleas like you and all the other bonus whores out there.

[patswin]

Lol...it's just that easy isn't it?

BAUS

Sometimes I think its harder to lose at places I want to lose at then to win at places I need to win. Anyone who hustles bonuses will know what I mean

[brettels]

Brilliant!!! What a classic, stealing ID from a dead guy. Some people are hilariously unbalanced with the chemicals in there brain!

[RickySteve]

Don't offer bonehead promotions or suck at booking and this "problem" goes away real easily.

[statnerds]

D.O.B.'s

Dead dudes

C'mon people.

Books are like Cops. They deal with assholes all day long that are innocent, but hear shit when start treating everyone like said assholes.

[durito]

Kindred, bonus WHORES LIKE YOU result in books offering LOWER bonuses NOT higher.

I just assume books stop offering bonuses all together and instead reward loyalty as that would get rid of fleas like you and all the other bonus whores out there.

Are there any topics you are not clueless about?

[zacblack]

When i first started betting online i created an account at bookmaker .I have not played there for about 10 months and went to deposit last week ' Before i deposited i made sure all my details were correct ! My D.O.B was incorrect so i went into live chat with them to change it.They said it could not be changed . I asked why not ?" They said management decision 'you will be able to change it as soon as possible sir " . Isaid when is that ? he said " as soon as possible " I said how soon is possible ' " soon sir " so i said about a hour ? " Not that soon sir " seeing as we were not getting anywhere he assured my my incorrect D.O.B would not matter .I queried him on this and asked how an SBR A+ book would not care about incorrect details . I said it might not matter on the way in but it will on the way out . I was told withdrawing with the wrong D.O.B would not be a problem . I didnt deposit anything


I was trying to join Legends the other day but had problems putting a phone number in .The system would not let me input my correct phone number so i went onto live help.

I told them of this problem and she said it happens all the time and gave me a phone number to put it . I asked who's number it was and was told " just some random number " . I was assured that the incorrect number would not matter with withdrawing . I again did not join because of this problem .

Both of these books are Rated A+ by SBR

[PD77]

I always enjoy the threads where a scam player tries to get over on a scam sportsbook. Even if they do get their docs approved they still don't get paid. It's hard enough for legit players in the US to get paid from legit sportsbooks.

Nice video Justin. Keep up the good work.

[subs]

Don't offer bonehead promotions or suck at booking and this "problem" goes away real easily.

how tempting is it when PP or SJ offer 10% all day long!

they r blatantly cheating and they know it, but when some1 has a go back at them, they scream fraud! why it is ok for them to rip off the ignorant so blatantly? isn't it just as bad?

screw 'em, i don't do it myself but have no sympathy for all but the best bookies out there. can't believe a bunch of gamblers r feeling sorry for shitty bookies

[BAUS]

Yes?

Look, chances are you'll win more at the bonus book than at pinn or mb. You've got to be prepared to wd from the bonus book.

BAUS

[Hareeba!]

Look, chances are you'll win more at the bonus book than at pinn or mb. You've got to be prepared to wd from the bonus book.

BAUS

Don't know why you'd think that.

I certainly don't claim to be a bonus whore but whenever I've had free plays I've always managed to lose them at the bonus book and pick them up at Betfair by backing/laying longshots.

[faststeady]

i dont know 1 arber thats up at pinnacle for example

Look, chances are you'll win more at the bonus book than at pinn or mb. You've got to be prepared to wd from the bonus book.

BAUS

hareeba, thats more luck than a correct assumption

[Ibrakadabra]

I don´t even understand the term "bonus whore". Is that a person who doesn´t deposit unless he gets a bonus? Does that really justify the word "whore" in any sensible meaning or is it that it just sounds cool to use?

Faking identity and using multiple accounts is something completely different, right?

[Hareeba!]

hareeba, thats more luck than a correct assumption

not the way I see it

far more likely to lose your bet backing a longshot surely?