188 Cant withdraw, becareful

moses millsap · 12-13-11, 03:42 PM

Standard rule. Books aren't banks.

shari91 · 12-13-11, 03:43 PM

Hi TennisProFrance - you'll find that same policy in place everywhere. It's to prevent money laundering and fraud. You can't simply deposit and then immediately withdraw without playing through the money at least once.

5mike5 · 12-13-11, 03:49 PM

yeah every book u have to bet 1x ur deposit before u can withdrawl

STANDARD

Uga · 12-13-11, 03:49 PM

Quite standard, if you ask me...

TennisProFrance · 12-13-11, 03:49 PM

Not in the UK its not and they are a UK regestered company not asian. If they had decent odds I would use them, but they are terrible odds. You can get better odds on BetFair (after commission) so I will never be using them.

This is pure theft and not standard for UK/EU books at all.

Hareeba! · 12-13-11, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by moses millsap

Standard rule. Books aren't banks.

correct
only reasonable, particularly if the book has incurred charges for you using a CC or e-wallet

only exception is if they impose unreasonable limits on your staking as did happen to me at one book and I got my money back same day

Bet188 do offer competitive odds so it's worthwhile to play there - I'm a keen price shopper so wouldn't maintain an account there otherwise ... most of my plays there are on tennis so I recommend you wait a couple more weeks for the new season before ditching them

Uga · 12-13-11, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by TennisProFrance

If they had decent odds I would use them, but they are terrible odds.

In that case, you should have checked their odds before any deposit.

TennisProFrance · 12-13-11, 03:59 PM

This is not a standard rule in the UK/EU. You would get destroyed if you tried to do somehting like this here. I know you guys in the US get it a lot harder than us (for now), but as they are regestered in the UK they would never get away with it.

There lines were not competitve at all this evening. I placed 14 bets and they were not even close to getting any business.

TennisProFrance · 12-13-11, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Uga

In that case, you should have checked their odds before any deposit.

Yes you are correct of course.

shari91 · 12-13-11, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by TennisProFrance

This is not a standard rule in the UK/EU. You would get destroyed if you tried to do somehting like this here. I know you guys in the US get it a lot harder than us (for now), but as they are regestered in the UK they would never get away with it.

There lines were not competitve at all this evening. I placed 14 bets and they were not even close to getting any business.

All I know is that bet365 flung this rule at me even before I tried to withdraw, when I was on live chat about something else: "If the value of a deposit is not played through in full before a withdrawal is requested, bet365 reserve the right to make a charge to the customers account to cover all reasonable costs relating to both the deposit and withdrawal."

So technically yes, I could've withdrawn my money before playing through, but I would've been charged for it and who knows how much. Ladbrokes also told me something similar within the past the week when I was enquiring about putting money in to test something out. No bonuses were going to be taken.

prop · 12-13-11, 06:05 PM

same policy (not sure if rule) at Pinnacle, if not rolling over once they charge the fee. Amazing is NEVER until this past weekend have I ever been in this spot but was twice this week. I deposited $1,100 at Intertops to bet at teaser because they were the only site with one of the teams -7.5 (everyone else was 8, and even though rare to push on 2, it was worth it). I found their max bet was $500.00 though ($550 to win $500).

Then hours later I spotted a small market I wanted to bet at Ladbrokes. I deposited $575 guessing that might be the limit but was only able the bet $300 on a -115 line so $345 to win $300.

Anyways both bets won. I expected to have to give cover play, but figured I'd try it without. Ladbrokes cash out was deducted for account instantly and was in ******** a little over a day later. Intertops cash out is still pending and has been for a couple days. I'm not sure if this is why or if they are just slow.

Anyways this is still pretty standard. If depositing via moneybookers or neteller though the merchant can reverse the deposit. But even if not so the fee shouldn't be any more then a few percent - what is the policy and what isn't I'm not sure - but this is what it should be. If not meeting that rule, then have to cover the fee. Of course sites should just have this in their rules, though I'm sure many don't.

meckis · 12-13-11, 07:09 PM

Standart rule, almost all books require to roll over deposit at least once. Dont forget that books pays all fees for your deposit. I dont know what you bet on but 188bet are excellent for football so you should check their asian lines.

Ruifgalmeida · 12-13-11, 09:19 PM

their are not register at UK , isle of man is a self gorvening territory.
1 time rollover is a standart for any asian bookie which is very fair.
saying that their odds are crap is a complete nonsense, you can find top industry prices on soccer asian handicap everyday.

zebras99 · 12-14-11, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by Ruifgalmeida

their are not register at UK , isle of man is a self gorvening territory.
1 time rollover is a standart for any asian bookie which is very fair.
saying that their odds are crap is a complete nonsense, you can find top industry prices on soccer asian handicap everyday.

188bet odds are great and the withdrawal rules are just as everywehere else.
This bookie does not sleep so don't expect to find some forgotten or unchanged odds like in UK bookies.

TennisProFrance · 12-14-11, 03:43 AM

I am refusing to meet this rule, they can go **** themselves. The amount involved is only £500 so I don't care, I will fight this one.

If you think 188 have decent odds you are playign at the wrong bookies. Out of 14 asains last night, and I can't believe I'm saying this, Betfair had better odds that 188 on all 14, Acbet were better than both BF (on about 10 lines) and SBO.

In summary ACbet certainly seem to offer very competitve odds, but they lack credability and given their make-up, who knows where they will end up. As for 188 I never giving them action again.

lukahh · 12-14-11, 04:08 AM

rule is completely normal. otherwise everyone would be taking advantage of current Neteller/Mbookers attract-customer-war.

odds ain't that bad at 188. HCP should be pretty competitive.

Hareeba! · 12-14-11, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by TennisProFrance

I am refusing to meet this rule, they can go **** themselves. The amount involved is only £500 so I don't care, I will fight this one.

If you think 188 have decent odds you are playign at the wrong bookies. Out of 14 asains last night, and I can't believe I'm saying this, Betfair had better odds that 188 on all 14, Acbet were better than both BF (on about 10 lines) and SBO.

In summary ACbet certainly seem to offer very competitve odds, but they lack credability and given their make-up, who knows where they will end up. As for 188 I never giving them action again.

Yep, smart man, you're no loser ... that's the way to go.

Simply ignore EVERYONE else's experience and opinion on the issue and give up on one of the best books on this planet.

pjesnik24 · 12-14-11, 09:25 AM

Originally posted by TennisProFrance

I am refusing to meet this rule, they can go **** themselves. The amount involved is only £500 so I don't care, I will fight this one.

If you think 188 have decent odds you are playign at the wrong bookies. Out of 14 asains last night, and I can't believe I'm saying this, Betfair had better odds that 188 on all 14, Acbet were better than both BF (on about 10 lines) and SBO.

In summary ACbet certainly seem to offer very competitve odds, but they lack credability and given their make-up, who knows where they will end up. As for 188 I never giving them action again.

well, if SBO was better than 188bet at one side of AH then there is some 99.9999999% possibility that 188bet was better at the other