5Dimes statement

[John Dough]

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This is the 9th business day - nothing in account.

AFAIK, they no longer offer that method, so I don't think there was ever a resolution to the point where they were able to successfully send funds that way once the problem began. I'd contact them about getting the money refunded to your account.

[pay on time]

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This is the 9th business day - nothing in account.

They'll do the same thing to you'll that they did to us (10/17 xch). Make you continue to wait and then finally put the funds back into your 5dimes account. Prob. have to wait another two weeks or so.

[Scooter]

AFAIK, they no longer offer that method, so I don't think there was ever a resolution to the point where they were able to successfully send funds that way once the problem began.

Not disagreeing with the above - don't know -

but I do know that when I requested the withdrawal I was assured by one of upper management that the problem had been resolved, and that there would not be a problem receiving my X, C, H, within 5 business days.

Disappointing result.

[Scooter]

Interesting that when logged into account and clicking on "Cashier", I'm brought to a screen that says "Deposits", but nothing that says "Withdrawals".
???

Also interesting that my Account info shows no pending payouts, although the withdrawal amount was removed from my account and my withdrawal was never received.

[Scooter]

lou, what are said dates for "affected a.c.h. payments"? or is pretty much every a.c.h. done since 10/17 no matter the day?

There is a staggered time schedule for refunding money to the accounts - they're basically making everyone wait 3-4 weeks for the money to be put back in their account.

I requested a withdrawal almost 2 weeks ago, and was told 2 days ago that I have to wait till 11/24 before it goes back into my account.
And then they don't process withdrawals Fri - Sun, which lets them stall for 4 more days.

[Dark Horse]

5Dimes is the biggest undetected thief in the offshore industry. The points they're stealing from players by adjusting their 'main' lines for teasers must be worth millions of dollars. The teaser payouts should be far higher if the adjusted juice was taken into account, but Tony conveniently keeps the juice at -110, while putting the stolen points in his pocket. Highway robbery. And SBR looking the other far tells you all you need to know.

The argument to not play teasers at 5D only goes so far, because they offer open teasers. So players get sucked in before they realize they either have to take a bad line to close the teaser, or wait a very long time. In the past one could call in and get the true line, but I've heard they're no longer allowing that.

A+? I don't think so. Without the teasers, sure. But with that obvious theft, no higher than C.

Eagerly awaiting SBR's official response on this serious issue...

[ngates815]

5Dimes is the biggest undetected thief in the offshore industry. The points they're stealing from players by adjusting their 'main' lines for teasers must be worth millions of dollars. The teaser payouts should be far higher if the adjusted juice was taken into account, but Tony conveniently keeps the juice at -110, while putting the stolen points in his pocket. Highway robbery. And SBR looking the other far tells you all you need to know. The argument to not play teasers at 5D only goes so far, because they offer open teasers. So players get sucked in before they realize they either have to take a bad line to close the teaser, or wait a very long time. In the past one could call in and get the true line, but I've heard they're no longer allowing that. A+? I don't think so. Without the teasers, sure. But with that obvious theft, no higher than C. Eagerly awaiting SBR's official response on this serious issue...

Man, and I thought they were a great book. I don't play many teasers at all, should I be staying there or pick up and RUN?


Eagerly awaiting Dark Horse's official response on my serious issue....

[5mike5]

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[Dark Horse]

Man, and I thought they were a great book. I don't play many teasers at all, should I be staying there or pick up and RUN?

Like I said, they're a good book if you exclude the teasers. Reliable and all. But that reputation is shot when you look at what they do with teasers. Which is plain theft. And I don't see how that can be kept separate. They're either honest or they're not.

[Syndremic]

They're definitely not honest.. look at how poorly they handled the *************** scandal.. lies on top of lies, then they get mad when you call them out on it

[ngates815]

Like I said, they're a good book if you exclude the teasers. Reliable and all. But that reputation is shot when you look at what they do with teasers. Which is plain theft. And I don't see how that can be kept separate. They're either honest or they're not.

Well isn't there more than 1 "good" book out there? If so, run to that book and play your teasers through them. The people that gamble for fun don't mind them stealing a few cents off of teasers. And the people that gamble for income SHOULD have more than 1 book, so use 5 dimes where you see fit and play teasers and other better lines at other books.

Makes sense, if there is another book you can trust out there with payouts.

[Dark Horse]

Well isn't there more than 1 "good" book out there? If so, run to that book and play your teasers through them. The people that gamble for fun don't mind them stealing a few cents off of teasers. And the people that gamble for income SHOULD have more than 1 book, so use 5 dimes where you see fit and play teasers and other better lines at other books.

Makes sense, if there is another book you can trust out there with payouts.

Sure. You can bet teasers elsewhere. But that doesn't let 5D off the hook where it comes to their teaser scheme. There is no excuse for it. None whatsoever. It's theft.

Anyway, will check back in tomorrow to read SBR's comments on this.

[stevenash]

Haha, you felt the need to still show their A+ rating?

They are an A+ book

[Syndremic]

They are an A+ book

They don't do business like one. Hell, Bodog is better than 5D

[Dark Horse]

Tony is reading along here. We know that. There's nothing he could say that would his teaser program look honest. He knows he's stealing. And SBR is not going to point it out. They could have done so a long time ago. SBR is no longer on the players side as they were in the past. They reached a status quo and don't want to rock the boat. So we're back to players having to stand up for players. That's all I'm trying to do here.

[lt56]

5Dimes is the biggest undetected thief in the offshore industry. The points they're stealing from players by adjusting their 'main' lines for teasers must be worth millions of dollars. The teaser payouts should be far higher if the adjusted juice was taken into account, but Tony conveniently keeps the juice at -110, while putting the stolen points in his pocket. Highway robbery. And SBR looking the other far tells you all you need to know.

The argument to not play teasers at 5D only goes so far, because they offer open teasers. So players get sucked in before they realize they either have to take a bad line to close the teaser, or wait a very long time. In the past one could call in and get the true line, but I've heard they're no longer allowing that.

A+? I don't think so. Without the teasers, sure. But with that obvious theft, no higher than C.

Eagerly awaiting SBR's official response on this serious issue...

Just play parlays and buy points. They allow as many teams as you want in parlays and most of their parlays allow you to buy a ton of points. No other site comes close to what they allow in buying points for parlays.

[durito]

5Dimes is the biggest undetected thief in the offshore industry. The points they're stealing from players by adjusting their 'main' lines for teasers must be worth millions of dollars. The teaser payouts should be far higher if the adjusted juice was taken into account, but Tony conveniently keeps the juice at -110, while putting the stolen points in his pocket. Highway robbery. And SBR looking the other far tells you all you need to know.

The argument to not play teasers at 5D only goes so far, because they offer open teasers. So players get sucked in before they realize they either have to take a bad line to close the teaser, or wait a very long time. In the past one could call in and get the true line, but I've heard they're no longer allowing that.

A+? I don't think so. Without the teasers, sure. But with that obvious theft, no higher than C.

Eagerly awaiting SBR's official response on this serious issue...

pinnacle has done the same thing for ever, who cares, you know what pts you are getting.

[BiGTonyHAHA]

thank you durito. somebody who understands the off shore business. between this forum about the industry and covers i never seen a bunch of whiny little bitches in my life. you all live at home still probably? or mommy and daddy cut you off? i hear things like scandals and lies and ppl calling ** to rat onn them. its totally childish. you know what your getting if you educate yourself on the nature of the off shore business you would know that 3rd party processors and the actual offshore site are separate entities working together. then now the teasers if you dont like the teasers dont bet them. I mean you SEE the LINES right in front of you on the screen when you place the bet. if you dont like it your robbing yourself 5d is not robbing you. then ppl say im goin to tell an sbr mod like a little snitch... where are all the men in these forums?

[wrongturn]

The teaser defense is annoying but it is not theft. We can take advantage by looking at the other side.

[Dark Horse]

pinnacle has done the same thing for ever, who cares, you know what pts you are getting.

Not necessarily. I already addressed your point by mentioning their open teasers. And in any case, it remains theft. If you're going to adjust the points in a teaser in favor of the book then the teaser should pay out more. Doh.

Amazing how players who should know better stand up for theft by a book. Just because somebody else does it, that makes it right? Welcome to 'Wall Street'?

[lt56]

Not necessarily. I already addressed your point by mentioning their open teasers. And in any case, it remains theft. If you're going to adjust the points in a teaser in favor of the book then the teaser should pay out more. Doh.

Amazing how players who should know better stand up for theft by a book. Just because somebody else does it, that makes it right? Welcome to 'Wall Street'?

If you're such a math genius, then you'd know that instead of doing teasers; you'd buy points and do parlays. 3 team parlays start at 6-1 and when you buy points to equal the teaser spreads; the parlays are often slightly better pay outs. And obviously also; if one side is worse odds then the other side is better odds. Are people betting the +100 team robbing Tony? 5Dimes isn't robbing anyone

[Dark Horse]

The teaser defense is annoying but it is not theft. We can take advantage by looking at the other side.

Except that the other side offers no edge. That's why they have an adjusted line.

As durito just pointed out. Pinnacle does it too. Kind of makes you wonder, doesn't it? How much money is being ripped off from unsuspecting players by two A+ books?

Get the right kind of fire underneath this, and it's an industry scandal. Not going to happen, though. Unregulated gambling. Hush hush approach.

[Dark Horse]

If you're such a math genius, then you'd know that instead of doing teasers; you'd buy points and do parlays. 3 team parlays start at 6-1 and when you buy points to equal the teaser spreads; the parlays are often slightly better pay outs. And obviously also; if one side is worse odds then the other side is better odds. Are people betting the +100 team robbing Tony? 5Dimes isn't robbing anyone

That one of your aliases, Dozer?

[wrongturn]

Yeah, but 5D also has low teaser price, tie-win, and open slot. I am sure they are all washed out by adjusted teaser lines. The point is you can not expect 5D to give out non-adjust lines with other benefits. Just not going to happen.

[Dark Horse]

If you're betting a teaser with a payout that is based on -110 lines, then you should not have a problem getting the -110 lines. If you should prefer that line. This used to be possible at 5D, if you called in the teaser. But if my information is correct, it no longer is.

And there are many players out there who don't have particular understanding of teasers, and the lines they're betting into at 5D (and Pinnacle) are absurd. Add up all those sucker bets and imagine the profit. Not only do those lines take the advantage out of the teaser, but the teaser payout isn't even adjusted accordingly. How is that honest business?

[boondoggle]

5dimes is the best U.S. option by a landslide

not saying a lot.

[5mike5]

not saying a lot.

says they have more betting options than anybody else

[TEXAS MICKEY]

If you're betting a teaser with a payout that is based on -110 lines, then you should not have a problem getting the -110 lines. If you should prefer that line. This used to be possible at 5D, if you called in the teaser. But if my information is correct, it no longer is.

And there are many players out there who don't have particular understanding of teasers, and the lines they're betting into at 5D (and Pinnacle) are absurd. Add up all those sucker bets and imagine the profit. Not only do those lines take the advantage out of the teaser, but the teaser payout isn't even adjusted accordingly. How is that honest business?

Two points that you made here, let it go man............it's the player that has the choice. Nobody is holding a gun to their head to push the button and play the teaser.
Put the bold words together and read out loud............