[neophyte bettor]

Called sportsbook and found Yankees +150 vs. Texas. Called Galaxy sports(affiliated with Diamond) and found Texas +115. Called back first book and asked if their line was correct. They said it was and Bet$500 Yankees. Called back Galaxy asked clerk if their line was correct. She said it was but just to make sure I asked her to speak with her supervisor because I did not want any problems and saw totally different line elsewhere. Thirty seconds later she came back and assured me their line was correct. So I bet $500 Texas. Later got online and found Galaxy bet was cancelled. When I called other spot to cancel, they said I could not. So I ate $500 on Yankees. Have spoken to few experienced sports bettors and they all thought Galaxy should have honored my wager because I did not bet online and I called and insisted clerk speak to supervisor before placing wager. Only have two outs. How am I supposed to know which line was wrong? Would recommend not betting with Galaxy-Diamond. What's to stop them from cancelling a football bet after the line has moved several points? Would welcome opinions from experienced bettors. Thank you, neophyte bettor.

[Nookx]

call back galaxy and explain the situation. If they don't honor it then I would never bet there again. I would also spend the rest of my life trying to ruin them for screwing you if what you said is true.

Edit: I hope that you get your money, and yes you were screwed.

[Hareeba!]

Having queried and been assured it was correct they certainly should have to honour it but how do you prove it?

[underthe total]

i would call galaxsy and ask them to play the tape they have it and you can probably get it put back in your acct and paid as a winner

[BET THE HOOK]

Absolutely have them play the tape and since it was a phone wager they will have to honor it. If you placed the wager online their rules probably has some type of fine print allowing them to weasle out of the play. If this doesnt work file a SBR complaint against them.

[TheGuesser]

You asked if the line was correct. They said yes. You made the bet. They should honor the bet, "bad line" or not. End of story, or at least it should be.

[Ruifgalmeida]

obvious a bad line, stupid CS.

[necro]

bad line ,moronic CS, stupid bet

[magynuck]

obvious bad line even if confirmed do not look to bet

[Ryangene]

i think you could be s.o.l for sure get on the phone with them however.

[sharpcat]

Clearly a bad line if you fight this I would expect that this book will likely label you as a shot taker and will kindly show you the door.

[bluefish]

Bad line. Nothing you could do.

[tenbas]

Unless you manage to get your money back do as said, SBR complaint and never bet with them again. If you explain this to them they just might understand and realize it's better to return money.

[sharpcat]

Unless you manage to get your money back do as said, SBR complaint and never bet with them again. If you explain this to them they just might understand and realize it's better to return money.

Why would they think it was better?

Books do not like shot takers and they do not like arb players, I think they would probably prefer to see the player move on.

The OP has no evidence to support that the book specified the line was good and unless he can produce this SBR can not assist him at all considering that the line was clearly an erroneous line.

My advice would be to not take shots at bad lines period, but if you do ask a representative of the book before wagering as the OP did here but do it through live chat so that you can document it.

[tomcowley]

Cris managers are incompetent liars. It's sadly not news.

[LT Profits]

Regardless of what their CS said, you were betting an obviously bad line, so you in fact WERE a shot-taker in this case, I wouldn't pay you either and fire the CS person that said the line was good. I'd also give you a warning that if you bet a bad line again. you'd be banned.

[soxwin1917]

Regardless of what their CS said, you were betting an obviously bad line, so you in fact WERE a shot-taker in this case, I wouldn't pay you either and fire the CS person that said the line was good. I'd also give you a warning that if you bet a bad line again. you'd be banned.

But if he asked them about their bad line and they CONFIRMED it, seems to me that he should be paid.

[DevilCheese]

you brought the line to their attention and they let you bet it, i dont see anything wrong here. hopefully they do the right thing.

[LT Profits]

But if he asked them about their bad line and they CONFIRMED it, seems to me that he should be paid.

Does not change the fact that he was taking a shot at an obviously bad line. The person that "confirmed" it was a CS rep that may know nothing about sports, if it had gone to a higher up, the bad line would have been easily spotted.

Another alternative would be to go ahead and pay him but also ban him immediately.

[bigugly]

LT, he is not a shot taker. He gave them every opportunity to check the line, and the manager even approved the line. Pay the man, and fire the manager if necessary.

[masontnk]

I would call and ask for help

[LT Profits]

LT, he is not a shot taker. He gave them every opportunity to check the line, and the manager even approved the line. Pay the man, and fire the manager if necessary.

He is a shot taker in the sense that he KNEW it was an off line before he asked about it. just as any bettor would have known it. He would have been better served reporting the bad line instead of trying so hard to bet into it.

[bigugly]

Reporting the line just to find out that the line was good? Or is the line only a good line if the bet ends up losing? Who's the shot taker here?

Also, some books have some crazy lines out there. I don't know anything about neophyte, we can't assume he "knew better".

[LT Profits]

Well this was too obvious for anyone with half a brain to not know it was an off line. We are taking about +150 on a team that was FAVORED everywhere else, so if he reported it, there was 0 possibility that the line was good.

[antifoil]

does sbr hold a book accountable on their review rating when a book post bad lines on a game like a playoff game which would have a high volume of bets as oppose to a bunch of prop bets?

[jgilmartin]

Well this was too obvious for anyone with half a brain to not know it was an off line. We are taking about +150 on a team that was FAVORED everywhere else, so if he reported it, there was 0 possibility that the line was good.

This. It's way too far off market to be anything but a bad line.

[CarloTwoGuns]

that sucks man

[RonPaul2008]

How am I supposed to know which line was wrong?

You don't need to have an account to see lines at most places. Just check pinnacle next time.

[LT Profits]

How am I supposed to know which line was wrong?

There are many free line services where you could check lines at may books. May I recommend SBR Odds?

http://odds.sbrforum.com/#/odds/mlb/game/moneyline.html

[skrtelfan]

Rather ridiculous IMO that these books put the onus on the player rather than the clerk to tell whether or not a line is bad.

[Nookx]

Rather ridiculous IMO that these books put the onus on the player rather than the clerk to tell whether or not a line is bad.

Yah, this is just disturbing. Im just getting into betting again and It seems like almost no books are being run with good business practices. Almost every thread is about a book scamming someone.

[Tomahawk]

If you read their terms of service it will surely say that they can cancel any of your bet without giving you any notice.

So that was their line with +115, but they canceled your bet, cause they realised their mistake. So they don't owe you money and they don't know that you're an arb trader and you've lost money on this bet by betting the other side with +150.

Unfortunately they are the house and they decide if they accept your wager or not. The wager becomes legit after the match starts, before the match starts they can cancel it if they want to.

I think this is not fair, couse for examples costumers can't cancel wagers after they place them. What if I change my mind and don't want to place that bet, but I already accepted it? So I can't cancel it, but they can if they don't like it.

[scott235]

yes, bad line, but this is getting to be a very slippery slope....little too easy to cancel bets for the books

[scott235]

probably the best thing to do is if it looks to good to be true- stay away

also, do books record every conversation?....i assumed they did

[Peep]

Betting an obvious bad line puts you into a tough situation.

IF I do this (and I might at a book like this that is too arrogant to admit the number is wrong), I just bet the "bad" side. That way if it is cancelled, I don't lose anything and if it is allowed to go (game starts) I have a plus EV bet.