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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #71
    Originally posted by Ninersnut
    It's all money based NC.....deprive the market of gaming sites. Pop up legalized ones in 2 years and watch the community flood into them. Make the casino pay some outrageous tax for offering the service and tax the winners.....win win for the govt.
    Yep. Fvcking joke. We spend/print money into oblivion, then come up with this. Unreal.
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    • sweetjones55
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 04-07-09
      • 5257

      #72
      For anyone that doesn't know what I am talking about, go check out bookmaker.
      Scared money don't make money

      182-120-6 (60.26%) Final Total NBA Record over 308 plays
      37-20-1 (65%) Record for the 2010 NBA PLAYOFFS
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      • Tunes
        SBR High Roller
        • 02-28-07
        • 234

        #73
        I can log into Bookmaker.com. I cannot log in to bmaker.ag.

        What could that be about?
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        • Santo
          SBR MVP
          • 09-08-05
          • 2957

          #74
          Bodog:


          The Morris Mohawk Gaming Group (MMGG and at MorrisMohawk.ca), with a gaming license in Kahnawake, Canada, have licensed the Bodog.eu domain from the global brand owner BodogBrand.com as part of MMGG’s international expansion program. MMGG made the decision in December 2010 to expand internationally and has already started work on one new country. Its current domain license for Bodog.com will be allowed to expire once the transition is complete. MMGG’s expansion will not impede or prejudice those markets in which the other Brand Licensees currently operate and retain exclusivity over.

          Alwyn Morris, CEO of MMGG stated: “The experience of history tells us not to stand still and we feel this more global domain will appeal more directly to the new markets we plan to enter. We did the deal with BodogBrand.com for the .eu domain last year but are ready to cut over globally now. Like many in the gaming world we will be looking at Asia very closely and there are many markets that Bodog88.com, the brand’s Asian facing licensee, is not interested in. We also have our eyes on some exciting market opportunities in Latin America.”

          Starting this week, everyone in every country that is able to access Bodog.com will be using Bodog.eu.
          If you believe that reasoning, I've got a river on the moon to sell you.
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          • nyplayer33
            Restricted User
            • 09-27-06
            • 8303

            #75
            I think all these shutodwns are related to omnline pokers
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            • Garbage Time Fan
              SBR Rookie
              • 02-20-09
              • 35

              #76
              ICANN is the authority

              what gives "Homeland Security" authorization to seize a domain that is used internationally? ICANN is the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. If any entity has the authority to seize a domain it is ICANN.

              "Homeland Security" has no authorization over internet domains that is recognized by probablly 99% of people outside of the US.

              what's next? How many more domains does "Homeland Security" plan to seize? Do they intend to seize domains for websites that are critical to the US government? If someone operates a website with the URL Obamasucks.com, will Homeland Security shut it down?

              this is a power grab that should sicken everyone here.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #77
                Originally posted by Grandmaster B
                what about Lou?

                and Shari?

                and Bobby?

                what about their paychecks?
                They do not have any clue..maybe Lou but the other too are not experienced in offshore sportsbooks
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                • Monte
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-21-10
                  • 2056

                  #78
                  All that US players have left now is the Greek, if they go for Spiro it's over.
                  Oh and don't be fooled, your money is not A+ safe anymore at Bookmaker. Thou SBR won't change the rating, ofc.
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                  • nyplayer33
                    Restricted User
                    • 09-27-06
                    • 8303

                    #79
                    i'm wondering if they can seize domain if ilegal acticty occured in usa...
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                    • AimingHigh
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 06-12-09
                      • 670

                      #80
                      Originally posted by jgilmartin
                      They setup a sting operation where they setup a payment processing company, and got BetEd and CRIS to process payments through them. That is how they were able to bust those companies, but not others.
                      Interesting. Any link to this part of the story?
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                      • Ninersnut
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-20-10
                        • 3730

                        #81
                        Originally posted by Garbage Time Fan
                        what gives "Homeland Security" authorization to seize a domain that is used internationally? ICANN is the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. If any entity has the authority to seize a domain it is ICANN. "Homeland Security" has no authorization over internet domains that is recognized by probablly 99% of people outside of the US. what's next? How many more domains does "Homeland Security" plan to seize? Do they intend to seize domains for websites that are critical to the US government? If someone operates a website with the URL Obamasucks.com, will Homeland Security shut it down? this is a power grab that should sicken everyone here.
                        Money laundering ring a bell? They have every right to seize it.
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                        • 2Bdown
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 12-30-09
                          • 484

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Numenor80
                          This is absolutely crazy! I'm moving out of country!
                          or you could move to Nevada
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                          • BIGDAY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 02-17-10
                            • 48245

                            #83
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            I am not worried

                            They are doing updates tonight on server maybe switching domain names
                            C'mon JJ!!! We deserve the truth!!!
                            5dimes is down for more than 24 hours...

                            Bookmaker is updated/changing doman...

                            Something is up....
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                            • Monte
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-21-10
                              • 2056

                              #84
                              A fool could have forseen this, don't feel too special.
                              And yes ofc you are right, 5Dimes is as good as dead. Combined with these Casino horror stories, and Tony being a dick, anyone who keeps playing at this shit place is crazy.
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                              • BrianLaverty
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-02-07
                                • 2183

                                #85
                                You guys realize all those sites listed were affiliated with True Poker, right? They are going after all the poker sites.....
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                                • d2bets
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 39995

                                  #86
                                  http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/1089697-bookmaker-statement-domain-cha

                                  You should specify that they apparently seized some domains, not the actual "offshore books".
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                                  • mighty maron
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-20-09
                                    • 4215

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Garbage Time Fan
                                    what gives "Homeland Security" authorization to seize a domain that is used internationally? ICANN is the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. If any entity has the authority to seize a domain it is ICANN.

                                    "Homeland Security" has no authorization over internet domains that is recognized by probablly 99% of people outside of the US.

                                    what's next? How many more domains does "Homeland Security" plan to seize? Do they intend to seize domains for websites that are critical to the US government? If someone operates a website with the URL Obamasucks.com, will Homeland Security shut it down?

                                    this is a power grab that should sicken everyone here.
                                    Verisign has influence over the.com domain names. Verisign is part of Symantec which is listed on the NasDAQ. Thus the US govt can swoop in......

                                    All books that deal with US customers should transfer to domain names that are under less influence from us govt like the .ag
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                                    • will2survive
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-26-09
                                      • 8099

                                      #88
                                      this is slightly alarming
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                                      • gregm
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-14-11
                                        • 3535

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by 2Bdown
                                        or you could move to Nevada
                                        Its sort of like online players trying to make the transition from online poker to live poker, there are so many ways to make money betting sports online, line shopping, have tons of outs, live betting,etc. Sportsbooks in most casinos are really only there because the casinos have to have them there, usually the deadest part of most casinos. I love gambling live but playing craps, blackjack,etc is much better than sitting in some half deserted sportsbook in the casino.

                                        Going back to playing at the station, parlay cards,locals may be where I am headed, sad.
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                                        • dinaro7
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-06-09
                                          • 888

                                          #90
                                          grandmasterbaiter b you r a jack888
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                                          • Smoke
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-09-09
                                            • 48111

                                            #91
                                            SBR says "business as usual"

                                            Wonder why

                                            Imagine if we all cashed out from all our books, not good for sbr

                                            The fact is this isn't the end. More books due to get seized. Game over. Goin back to a local
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                                            • jgilmartin
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-31-09
                                              • 1119

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by AimingHigh
                                              Interesting. Any link to this part of the story?
                                              This is the actual affidavit
                                              Affidavit submitted in support of four seizure warrants: two pertain to two domestic bank accounts; one pertains to nine foreign pank accounts in various countries. Contents of account number 0243058780 in the name of Chargestream Ltd at ABN AMRO Bank NV (FKA: Fortis bank Netherland NV) located in the Netherlands.
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                                              • ttwarrior1
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 06-23-09
                                                • 28454

                                                #93
                                                the shows im listening to online says nothing to do with poker when it comes to dsi,, bookmaker, etc, they got domain seized because of sports gambling and payments
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                                                • mighty maron
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-20-09
                                                  • 4215

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Smoke
                                                  SBR says "don't panic"

                                                  Wonder why

                                                  Imagine if we all cashed out from all our books, not good for sbr

                                                  The fact is this isn't the end. More books due to get seized. Game over. Goin back to a local
                                                  You could not all cash out at the same time. The only reason Pokerstars got their usa customers 100Million fast is because the Isle of Man requires that players funds are seperated from operational costs. Full Tilt poker who is licensced elsewhere does not keep players funds seperate and are dragging their feet paying people off.

                                                  I can not fanthom that unless the law where the book is says that players funds are seperate from operational cost that they would have all the funds to handle the mass cashout.

                                                  I dont know this for certain though
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                                                  • YorkHunt
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 12-11-10
                                                    • 7496

                                                    #95
                                                    Just talked with Bookmaker..

                                                    I have a good contact in the VIP section, he said the only thing seized was the domain names. He said by reports the banks that were seized were just for cards. They work with tons of banks. Outgoing payments are still good! Incoming deposits are still honored! No delay in payments.

                                                    Scum bags set up a fake processor and nailed them....Doesnt our govt. have a deficit to worry about??
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                                                    • Garbage Time Fan
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 02-20-09
                                                      • 35

                                                      #96
                                                      Verisign has influence over the.com domain names. Verisign is part of Symantec which is listed on the NasDAQ. Thus the US govt can swoop in..
                                                      Hell no. Verisign is a registrar. the owner of the domain is free to move the domain to another registrar.

                                                      what Homeland Security is doing is in violation of ICANN's authority.
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                                                      • mighty maron
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-20-09
                                                        • 4215

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                                                        the shows im listening to online says nothing to do with poker when it comes to dsi,, bookmaker, etc, they got domain seized because of sports gambling and payments


                                                        Yatahay poker network was hit...this had doylesroom, truepoker, betcris, and bookmaker.

                                                        The interesting thing is that 5dimes is also part of this network....
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                                                        • mighty maron
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-20-09
                                                          • 4215

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by Garbage Time Fan
                                                          Hell no. Verisign is a registrar. the owner of the domain is free to move the domain to another registrar.

                                                          what Homeland Security is doing is in violation of ICANN's authority.
                                                          the registrar is in the US.....US did seize it...gg
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                                                          • trixtrix
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 04-13-06
                                                            • 1897

                                                            #99
                                                            Hey Mickey - you've been around all night
                                                            And that's a little long.
                                                            You think you've got the right but I think you've got it wrong.
                                                            Why can't we say goodnight? So you can take me home
                                                            Mickey.
                                                            'cause when you say you will
                                                            it always means you won't.
                                                            You're givin' me the chills

                                                            Baby
                                                            please baby
                                                            don't
                                                            ev'ry night you still
                                                            Leave me alone
                                                            Mickey.

                                                            Oh Mickey
                                                            what a pity you don't understand.
                                                            You take me by the heart when you take me by the hand.
                                                            Oh Mickey
                                                            you're so pretty
                                                            can't you understand.
                                                            It's guys like you
                                                            Mickey
                                                            ooh what you do
                                                            Mickey

                                                            Do
                                                            Mickey
                                                            don't break my heart
                                                            Mickey.
                                                            Hey
                                                            Mickey - now when you take me by the who's
                                                            Ever gonna know
                                                            and ev'ry time you move
                                                            You let a little more show.

                                                            There's something you can lose - so don't say no
                                                            Mickey.
                                                            So come on and give it to me anyway you can

                                                            Anyway you want to do it
                                                            I'll take it like a man.
                                                            But please
                                                            baby
                                                            please don't leave me in this jam
                                                            Mickey.
                                                            Oh Mickey
                                                            what a pity you don't understand. . . .
                                                            Oh Mickey
                                                            what a pity you don't understand. . . .
                                                            Oh Mickey
                                                            what a pity you don't understand. .
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                                                            • Grandmaster B
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-05-09
                                                              • 6035

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by dinaro7
                                                              grandmasterbaiter b you r a jack888
                                                              stfu shill
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                                                              • xbalto
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 10-14-10
                                                                • 106

                                                                #101
                                                                DNS records take time to propagate so the old site will work for some people for a while.

                                                                here is the WHOIS record:

                                                                Domain Name: BOOKMAKER.COM
                                                                Registrar: GANDI SAS
                                                                Whois Server: whois.gandi.net
                                                                Referral URL: http://www.gandi.net
                                                                Name Server: NS1.SEIZEDSERVERS.COM
                                                                Name Server: NS2.SEIZEDSERVERS.COM
                                                                Status: clientDeleteProhibited
                                                                Status: clientTransferProhibited
                                                                Status: serverDeleteProhibited
                                                                Status: serverTransferProhibited
                                                                Status: serverUpdateProhibited
                                                                Updated Date: 23-may-2011
                                                                Creation Date: 03-nov-1997
                                                                Expiration Date: 02-nov-2018

                                                                looks like the domain got seized
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                                                                • Flight
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 01-28-09
                                                                  • 1979

                                                                  #102
                                                                  www.bookmaker.com is fine

                                                                  bookmaker.com is not

                                                                  ????

                                                                  sounds like just a domain issue
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                                                                  • Flight
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 01-28-09
                                                                    • 1979

                                                                    #103
                                                                    yah, DNS is probably still propagating .....
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                                                                    • Garbage Time Fan
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 02-20-09
                                                                      • 35

                                                                      #104
                                                                      the registrar is in the US.....US did seize it...gg
                                                                      ...and the authority to seize domains from US registrars comes from what international treaty?

                                                                      ICANN is the authority over those names. No matter how many Homeland Security shills are posting on this thread, that's the simple truth.
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                                                                      • justonetime
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 11-17-09
                                                                        • 297

                                                                        #105
                                                                        www.bookmaker.com now showing the seized page.
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