How much did Bet 3.65 pay?

[Monte]

To be upgraded back to A- so fast, and appearing as one of the 6 top books on the front page when i opened it to check the news?
Instead of a place like Greek, and even if it is just random appearance...Bodog is there too right now, with the slogan "best betting software". Man SBR sold out so bad, no guts.

[Justin7]

To be upgraded back to A- so fast, and appearing as one of the 6 top books on the front page when i opened it to check the news?
Instead of a place like Greek, and even if it is just random appearance...Bodog is there too right now, with the slogan "best betting software". Man SBR sold out so bad, no guts.

I recommended the upgrade. They no longer have bonus issues that we saw a couple years ago. They are financially solid (huge too), treating players fairly, and working with SBR when there is a dispute.

Where do you think they should be rated?

[chilidog]

I recommended the upgrade. They no longer have bonus issues that we saw a couple years ago. They are financially solid (huge too), treating players fairly, and working with SBR when there is a dispute.

Where do you think they should be rated?

I think they should rated on the shores of Tripoli.

[Monte]

treating players fairly

Like Bodog, yea right. I respect you a lot Justin, but you should know that these are not sportsbooks.
They are out to lure clueless ppl in and milk them, they do not look for people who actually want to bet sports and know what they are doing, those get limited and basically kicked out after only a few bets.

I actually support if the governments go after these pricks. Seeing them on the SBR front page sucks, sorry but there just is no excuse and you know it.

[Justin7]

There are rec-books and pro-books. The most important factor for a book's rating is: will you get paid? I hate getting tossed from books as much as the next guy... but do you doubt Bodog or Bet365 will pay you when they cut or limit you?

What I think you are really saying is: Rec-books should never be A-rated. That is simply not a factor in SBR's ratings, however.

[mikeyg]

Bet 365 is a solid shop and is rated correctly. I am a rec player and think they are very good. I always have my pay outs within three days via wire and I know I could win any amount and be paid in the same time frame.

[Monte]

Not right..there are rec. books like BetJamaica who still take bets of up to $3k from me.
I have a 20secs delay or so, but that is fair. I could get my bets down there if i wanted to.
And i never heared about them dicking players around in other ways either, like holding your ID in front of your house and mickey mouse stuff like that.

They don't have "issues" any more now, for how long...1 year i guess? Since they still were downgraded back then.
1 year to overlook all the facts, that only suckers are allowed to play there, and to forget everything they did.
Taking pride on that they pay, which should go without saying...it's pretty sad.

[pouroupoupou]

Betjam may take 3k bets but they offer 100 times less options to bet on.
Bet365 is by far the best rec book in the world. A+ for rec players

[the_situation]

I agree with Justin here...they are a very good book in terms of safety of money, fast payouts, and wagering options. Besides getting limited(which I have only heard stories of), they are a solid book that deserves an A- at least.

I have never had problems with them in terms of getting paid and their CS is always very helpful. In fact, I would probably rate them at an A.

[roanildinho]

Yo peeps,

Will they limit if i make 10k on a lets say 6 month span betting 25 bucks on each game?

if yes then they suck if no then they deserve that A- rating that sbr has given them. just asnwer my question

[Maniac]

Its not necessairly about how much you win or lose, but more the type of betting - if you are betting arbs or steam plays then you will likely find yourself limited very quickly, whether or not your bets win or lose.

A- is fair enough I think - they are safe as houses, and havent heard a single complaint of a player not being paid, and they offer the most thorough In-Play services that I have seen and a perfect book for the recreational player. I never had a single problem when I used to bet with them, though havent actually had a bet with them in over a year now due to being limited.

Yes they do limit you severely if they dont like your betting, but I dont really see that as a reason to give them a low score as the most important thing is that they will always pay you what you are owed.

[Monte]

Nah they limit you if you get any acceptable line, doesn't have to be an arb.
You all know how you sound when you say "they pay, and CS is good"? As if that isn't the norm for all decent books.
The point wasn't so much the A-, it is that they are suddenly listed as one of the top books, right to Pinny and with the Greek not on the front page in exchange for it. To do that they had to be ugraded fast ofc. As i said...they prolly just paid enough.
As if anything changed, a joke-book doesn't suddenly turn golden, you have to be pretty green behind the ears to buy this.

[Bill Dozer]

It's been a 10 year old argument by some SBR readers. Players feel that rec books or "entertainment betting" books should not be listed in the very top and only books that let you trade a la Bookmaker, Greek, Betfair, Pinnacle and SBObet should be there. It's a fair argument but it's not how we look at sportsbooks. 98% of players want good service for actual gambling vs. trading.

Bet365 used to be rated even higher years ago. When they went non-US they made their files top secret and wouldn't discuss fraud disputes with us regardless of their position. They are now working with us and credit has to be given where it's due. 365 is a monster book. If you bet soccer you are probably a much bigger fan than if you are a Canadian betting North American sports. 365 does a big % of all their business in live betting.

[mighty maron]

There are rec-books and pro-books. The most important factor for a book's rating is: will you get paid? I hate getting tossed from books as much as the next guy... but do you doubt Bodog or Bet365 will pay you when they cut or limit you?

What I think you are really saying is: Rec-books should never be A-rated. That is simply not a factor in SBR's ratings, however.

The key is that you get paid

[Hareeba!]

The key is that you get paid

getting paid $3.65 a time doesn't get me very excited

[itduzz]

Its not necessairly about how much you win or lose, but more the type of betting - if you are betting arbs or steam plays then you will likely find yourself limited very quickly, whether or not your bets win or lose.

WHy do steam players get limited? Also I just started betting on cricket on bet365 and only play one bet which is in live betting on number of runs scored next ball? Is that considered steam or arbs play?

[Hareeba!]

WHy do steam players get limited? Also I just started betting on cricket on bet365 and only play one bet which is in live betting on number of runs scored next ball? Is that considered steam or arbs play?

because books don't like a whole lot of one-sided action which they can't balance

betting on runs next ball is pure chance recreational play and the books will love you for it
how much juice is built into the odds for that ?

[itduzz]

because books don't like a whole lot of one-sided action which they can't balance

betting on runs next ball is pure chance recreational play and the books will love you for it
how much juice is built into the odds for that ?

Thanks for clearing. The odds depends on the format of the cricket game since there are 3 formats including test matches,20/20 games & One day games. Indeed runs next ball is chance but if you know the game and the players and teams playing it is a good bet as far I am concerned. I have bet 30 times and won 29 of them so far.

[Hareeba!]

Thanks for clearing. The odds depends on the format of the cricket game since there are 3 formats including test matches,20/20 games & One day games. Indeed runs next ball is chance but if you know the game and the players and teams playing it is a good bet as far I am concerned. I have bet 30 times and won 29 of them so far.

how much juice in those odds?

[itduzz]

how much juice in those odds?

if you mean how much I won then it is small. Max was $10.

[TheBeautifulGame]

They have the widest wagering options I have seen anyway and their live betting is one of the best around (although the new look is not my cup of tea). I've mentioned this before but when you're limited, if you phone in, the limits don't apply.

[durito]

It's been a 10 year old argument by some SBR readers. Players feel that rec books or "entertainment betting" books should not be listed in the very top and only books that let you trade a la Bookmaker, Greek, Betfair, Pinnacle and SBObet should be there. It's a fair argument but it's not how we look at sportsbooks. 98% of players want good service for actual gambling vs. trading.

Bet365 used to be rated even higher years ago. When they went non-US they made their files top secret and wouldn't discuss fraud disputes with us regardless of their position. They are now working with us and credit has to be given where it's due. 365 is a monster book. If you bet soccer you are probably a much bigger fan than if you are a Canadian betting North American sports. 365 does a big % of all their business in live betting.

They were A or A+ I think when I joined SBR, and a sponsor. First book to limit me, and I didn't even know what I was doing then.

[Hareeba!]

if you mean how much I won then it is small. Max was $10.

No, I mean how much margin do they build into the odds they offer

typically in a T20 what are the odds for:
0
1
2
3
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6 runs off next ball?

[itduzz]

No, I mean how much margin do they build into the odds they offer

typically in a T20 what are the odds for:
0
1
2
3
4
6 runs off next ball?

I only bet in ODIs and play less than 3.5 runs next ball. It ranges from -500 to -2000 depending on players and match situation.

[Hareeba!]

I only bet in ODIs and play less than 3.5 runs next ball. It ranges from -500 to -2000 depending on players and match situation.

ok, just guess I'll have to have a look when the next game's on

[in play, run(s)]

I think Bet365 deserves its high rating. Low limits shouldn't influence a book's rating, the rating should reflect safety of funds, business ethics and customer service. If a book limits you, you can withdraw, walk away and deposit elsewhere. But if some shady book goes bankrupt or confiscates funds, you're screwed.

[Hareeba!]

I think Bet365 deserves its high rating. Low limits shouldn't influence a book's rating, the rating should reflect safety of funds, business ethics and customer service. If a book limits you, you can withdraw, walk away and deposit elsewhere. But if some shady book goes bankrupt or confiscates funds, you're screwed.

safety of funds should certainly be taken for granted at any book which is recommended to use (and I have no concerns at all on that score as far as Bet$3.65 is concerned)

but past payment history is only part of properly determining that - it won't show up the ponzi scheme books until it is too late for many and SBR apparently don't do any checks into how books are funded and the separation of player and business monies

so your best move is to stick to those books in regulated jurisdictions such as the UK and Australia

[TheBeautifulGame]

It does suck to be limited to pennies but at least when you're limited, you can at least say, I beat that book. As far as BET365 goes, I have heard they even limit losing players but I'd rather be limited and get my money than have PINNACLE limits at some book and not get paid at all.

My first book was BET365 and it took me 6 months to be limited. The thing that was strange was, they 'limited' me to just about the amounts I usually place, so I guess they didn't want the chance that I would bet more?

However, I used to ring and get my bets placed with no issues but they were only 10 20 euro more than my limits but it was still above.

Also, their phone department take live wagers and are quick about it, can't knock that.

[Keith Richard]

Is Bet365 available to U.S. citizens?

[pouroupoupou]

Is Bet365 available to U.S. citizens?

US players are restricted.

[horja1]

It's been a 10 year old argument by some SBR readers. Players feel that rec books or "entertainment betting" books should not be listed in the very top and only books that let you trade a la Bookmaker, Greek, Betfair, Pinnacle and SBObet should be there. It's a fair argument but it's not how we look at sportsbooks. 98% of players want good service for actual gambling vs. trading.

Bet365 used to be rated even higher years ago. When they went non-US they made their files top secret and wouldn't discuss fraud disputes with us regardless of their position. They are now working with us and credit has to be given where it's due. 365 is a monster book. If you bet soccer you are probably a much bigger fan than if you are a Canadian betting North American sports. 365 does a big % of all their business in live betting.

For live betting Bet365 is A++ book and the next book could not be graded more than B-

[horja1]

It's been a 10 year old argument by some SBR readers. Players feel that rec books or "entertainment betting" books should not be listed in the very top and only books that let you trade a la Bookmaker, Greek, Betfair, Pinnacle and SBObet should be there. It's a fair argument but it's not how we look at sportsbooks. 98% of players want good service for actual gambling vs. trading.

Bet365 used to be rated even higher years ago. When they went non-US they made their files top secret and wouldn't discuss fraud disputes with us regardless of their position. They are now working with us and credit has to be given where it's due. 365 is a monster book. If you bet soccer you are probably a much bigger fan than if you are a Canadian betting North American sports. 365 does a big % of all their business in live betting.

For live betting Bet365 is A++ book and the next book could not be graded more than B-

[Ruifgalmeida]

I agree with Justin and Bill Dozer funds safety are the must important factor in rating a book , if they limit me no problem I move to the next book.
For me bet365 are the best rec book in the world , they have everything that a gambler needs , including awesome Odds.

[pjesnik24]

It's been a 10 year old argument by some SBR readers. Players feel that rec books or "entertainment betting" books should not be listed in the very top and only books that let you trade a la Bookmaker, Greek, Betfair, Pinnacle and SBObet should be there. It's a fair argument but it's not how we look at sportsbooks. 98% of players want good service for actual gambling vs. trading.

Bet365 used to be rated even higher years ago. When they went non-US they made their files top secret and wouldn't discuss fraud disputes with us regardless of their position. They are now working with us and credit has to be given where it's due. 365 is a monster book. If you bet soccer you are probably a much bigger fan than if you are a Canadian betting North American sports. 365 does a big % of all their business in live betting.

interesting that you mention sbobet in one line with all the "greats" however there is still no rating for them or for 188bet, 12bet, dafabet...

[Hareeba!]

For live betting Bet365 is A++ book and the next book could not be graded more than B-

what about Betfair ?