I feel for you US of A guys

[whatagoal1]

GREAT FORUM, love reading the trials and tribulations of you guys in finding a book that will pay, and then figuring out how to deposit, and hopefully withdraw.
Luckily here in the UK, it is very rare for a bookmaker to not pay, and as to paying to withdraw your winnings, WTF is that all about?
Also with the high street books, you can deposit in the shop, bet on the net, and withdraw from the shop.
If you have not visited the UK, to put it in perspective there are more bookshops in the High Street than maccys, kfc, pzzahut and burgerking put together.

They are very quick to close accounts though(you don't even need to bet a winner with some of them) so its not all a bed of roses.

[SportsMozart]

GREAT FORUM, love reading the trials and tribulations of you guys in finding a book that will pay, and then figuring out how to deposit, and hopefully withdraw.
Luckily here in the UK, it is very rare for a bookmaker to not pay, and as to paying to withdraw your winnings, WTF is that all about?
Also with the high street books, you can deposit in the shop, bet on the net, and withdraw from the shop.
If you have not visited the UK, to put it in perspective there are more bookshops in the High Street than maccys, kfc, pzzahut and burgerking put together.

They are very quick to close accounts though(you don't even need to bet a winner with some of them) so its not all a bed of roses.

YOU LUCKY BASTARD FROM THE FREE WORLD!

[robmpink]

GREAT FORUM, love reading the trials and tribulations of you guys in finding a book that will pay, and then figuring out how to deposit, and hopefully withdraw.
Luckily here in the UK, it is very rare for a bookmaker to not pay, and as to paying to withdraw your winnings, WTF is that all about?
Also with the high street books, you can deposit in the shop, bet on the net, and withdraw from the shop.
If you have not visited the UK, to put it in perspective there are more bookshops in the High Street than maccys, kfc, pzzahut and burgerking put together.

They are very quick to close accounts though(you don't even need to bet a winner with some of them) so its not all a bed of roses.

That is fine and dandy. I'd rather go through the troubles I do vs talking like one of you nitwits.

[Hareeba!]

That is fine and dandy. I'd rather go through the troubles I do vs talking like one of you nitwits.

what a loser!

[tonycarr]

To bad the US wont realise the money they are losing in lost taxes.

[robmpink]

what a loser!

Me?

[username474]

That is fine and dandy. I'd rather go through the troubles I do vs talking like one of you nitwits.

Just so we are clear. I am an American and you are an idiot.

[robmpink]

Just so we are clear. I am an American and you are an idiot.

Really? I am now dejected that a forum stormtrooper thinks I'm an idiot.

[robmpink]

Just so we are clear. I am an American and you are an idiot.

Maybe you got an erection after reading/knowing you could bet at a BK in the UK. Who cares if you could anyway?

[HedgeHog]

This thread reminds me how much I miss Pinny. Canada is looking better every day.

[Monte]

Can we not just move threads like this? Nothing to do with the Industry..

[thespeculator]

the u.k would be better than canada IMO

[zebra58]

[QUOTE=robmpink;9275052]Really? I am now dejected that a forum stormtrooper thinks I'm an idiot.[/QUOTE

that was very rude of you robm

[Counterfeit Cash]

This thread had promise, but is in the sh!tter now...for shame.

[Coldpimpin]

That is fine and dandy. I'd rather go through the troubles I do vs talking like one of you nitwits.

We have a lot of of idiots in America, my apologies whatagoal1

[LegitBet]

I'm so confused..sorry....
If we didn't live in the US we could get high in the street and eat KFC in the bookstores? Like barnes and noble?
And what did you mean it's not all about Guns and Roses? Because of Axel Rose?
Please clarify.

[FourLengthsClear]

I don't know how old the OP is but I am form the UK too and still remember the bad old days before internet betting and before Betfair.

Back then the only choice we had were those High Street bookie shops (albeit there were a lot more small independents) and you did have to pay tax on every single bet. It was 10% of the winnings (or you could choose to pay it on the stake).

As he mentions, it is very good now and we have probably the most liberal gambling laws in the world. The US laws on internet gambling are an example of political lobbying/corruption at its worst.

[soxwin1917]

I don't know how old the OP is but I am form the UK too and still remember the bad old days before internet betting and before Betfair.

Back then the only choice we had were those High Street bookie shops (albeit there were a lot more small independents) and you did have to pay tax on every single bet. It was 10% of the winnings (or you could choose to pay it on the stake).

As he mentions, it is very good now and we have probably the most liberal gambling laws in the world. The US laws on internet gambling are an example of political lobbying/corruption at its worst.

Out of curiosity, do those local UK books offer American sports as well?

[Santo]

NFL etc certainly, minor sports often only on request if at all.

[Counterfeit Cash]

Lucky Euro bastards...

[LegitBet]

And don't forget about the poor French. They're forced to live in a country with no vegatables.
I hear the most popular phrase at BJ tables in French casinos is, 'I Surrender!'.

[barcelonafc]

i feel sorry for the yanks as the cost of making a withdrawal is terrible, for me to do a wire to any other country it costs around $15. this is for any amount, so were do these books get there fees from? $55 + a percentage is just ripping you off.

its a disgrace but theres nothing you can do about it.

[gangeriver]

Lucky Euro bastards...

Depends on the country. French bettors are so unlucky and they can use 15 european books.all I know that Swedish and Swiss bettors pay taxes. Turkish bettors can't use pinny and most British books.On the other hand UK is heaven

i feel sorry for the yanks as the cost of making a withdrawal is terrible, for me to do a wire to any other country it costs around $15. this is for any amount, so were do these books get there fees from? $55 + a percentage is just ripping you off. its a disgrace but theres nothing you can do about it.

Exactly! majority of A/B books don't offer free payout. Your balance is 5000-6000$ and max withdraw is 850$ by persontoperson methods. Fee is 65$

[FourLengthsClear]

Out of curiosity, do those local UK books offer American sports as well?

In terms of placing a bet in the shop itself, generally only for NFL and play-off games in MLB and NBA.
They do, of course, offer much more online.

Action in the shops is really dominated by horse racing, greyhound racing and, of course, soccer.

[mrmarket]

In terms of placing a bet in the shop itself, generally only for NFL and play-off games in MLB and NBA.
They do, of course, offer much more online.

Action in the shops is really dominated by horse racing, greyhound racing and, of course, soccer.

FLC is just being coy. We all know that darts gets the big action.

[cyberinvestor]

That is fine and dandy. I'd rather go through the troubles I do vs talking like one of you nitwits.

Yes, you are an idiot. The guy came on to discuss UK betting and you come with some dumb comment. Don't post unless you are going to add something to the conversation. I would have expected such a ridiculous comment from someone with a few posts on SBR but someone with over 7,000 is a disgrace.

In terms of placing a bet in the shop itself, generally only for NFL and play-off games in MLB and NBA. They do, of course, offer much more online. Action in the shops is really dominated by horse racing, greyhound racing and, of course, soccer.

Does UK have their own greyhound tracks? I never realized this was bet there.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Hard to be too positive about UK books: as above, they limit very fast, and have huge juice on them too. They're an insult to the art of bookmaking.

Three good things for a gambler in the UK:

1) legal, so no hassles hiding things, payouts are easy cos moneybookers and co are used everywhere.
2) we can use pinnacle, betfair, sbo, and lots of others
3) 0% tax rate

[King_Suckerman]

FLC is just being coy. We all know that darts gets the big action.

They make loads of money on roulette machines as well.

[peeiempee]

have fun playing taxes on it, while we can just hide under the radar

[Hareeba!]

Does UK have their own greyhound tracks? I never realized this was bet there.

they certainly do
probably nowhere is it bigger ?

[FourLengthsClear]

FLC is just being coy. We all know that darts gets the big action.

In all seriousness; darts, snooker, tennis and cricket are popular betting sports but not on the scale of those I losted earlier.

Does UK have their own greyhound tracks? I never realized this was bet there.

Yes. A number of tracks have closed over thae last 20 years or so but there are still a good 40-50 left.

They make loads of money on roulette machines as well.

Indeed they do. I don't play on them myself but blackjack and virtual slots are popular too.

have fun playing taxes on it, while we can just hide under the radar

There are no taxes on gambling winnings.

[whatagoal1]

The biggest race meet of the year was on last week at Cheltenham, the daily racing paper each morning print a price comparison table for each race, wheras US horse prices are bet to over 120%, it is not uncommon for the table to show < 100%, thereby allowing you to bet every horse if you wanted.
Horse bets are also settled at the price you requested so if the horse is 5/1 at the time you place your bet, and is then backed down to 3/1 you still get paid at 5/1
Alternatively if you bet at 3/1 and the horse wins at 5/1 (very unlikely at a big meet) most books will pay at 5/1 so it is the best of both worlds as regards the gambled horses

For placebets (eachway in the Uk), the odds are 1/4 ot the win price so a 5/1 to win becomes 5/4 for a place, and in handicap races of 16 or more runners the placebet pays out on 4 positions

[HedgeHog]

the u.k would be better than canada IMO

Agree, but Canada is much closer to family and friends. Just want Pinny, MB and neteller back.

[cyberinvestor]

The biggest race meet of the year was on last week at Cheltenham, the daily racing paper each morning print a price comparison table for each race, wheras US horse prices are bet to over 120%, it is not uncommon for the table to show < 100%, thereby allowing you to bet every horse if you wanted. Horse bets are also settled at the price you requested so if the horse is 5/1 at the time you place your bet, and is then backed down to 3/1 you still get paid at 5/1 Alternatively if you bet at 3/1 and the horse wins at 5/1 (very unlikely at a big meet) most books will pay at 5/1 so it is the best of both worlds as regards the gambled horses For placebets (eachway in the Uk), the odds are 1/4 ot the win price so a 5/1 to win becomes 5/4 for a place, and in handicap races of 16 or more runners the placebet pays out on 4 positions

Wow, that is awesome. Thanks for all the info guys about the greyhounds too. Very interesting!

[Krashman]

Agree, but Canada is much closer to family and friends. Just want Pinny, MB and neteller back.

You can't use Neteller here in Canada to fund Gambling sites. They stopped servicing Canadians for that purpose back in 2007.

But we have Moneybookers, a much better option anyway.