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  • Sawyer
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-01-09
    • 7761

    #1
    Don't Let Matchbook Die!


    I know liquidity is very poor in Matchbook but if we don't use it, liquidity won't get better. It will get only worse.

    Make sure you have an account at Matchbook. Edmonton was +214 last night at MB. Best price in market was +197 at Pinnacle and +195 at 5Dimes. There's a dramatical difference between +214 and +195.

    2 years ago, Matchbook Liquidity was much better. Now, many markets are nothing but a graveyard. Don't let Matchbook die.

    Hopefully, liquidity during baseball season is always good.
  • jackkkk2009
    SBR MVP
    • 07-13-09
    • 1183

    #2
    Originally posted by Sawyer


    I know liquidity is very poor in Matchbook but if we don't use it, liquidity won't get better. It will get only worse.

    Make sure you have an account at Matchbook. Edmonton was +214 last night at MB. Best price in market was +197 at Pinnacle and +195 at 5Dimes. There's a dramatical difference between +214 and +195.

    2 years ago, Matchbook Liquidity was much better. Now, many markets are nothing but a graveyard. Don't let Matchbook die.

    Hopefully, liquidity during baseball season is always good.
    u r right, don't them die. but MB also has to do something in order to keep their business in the industry.
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    • MCherry281
      SBR MVP
      • 05-09-09
      • 2318

      #3
      Matchbook sucks for anything except baseball. Nothing gets matched until game time. I take my action elsewhere to get it when I want and for how much I want without having to worry about getting matched.
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      • wrongturn
        SBR MVP
        • 06-06-06
        • 2228

        #4
        well football is good too, but it is about over
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        • Sawyer
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-01-09
          • 7761

          #5
          Yeah, right. Liquidity during baseball season is good. When NBA, NHL Playoffs start, liquidity will be good for these sports too since there won't be too many games on board.

          I know Matchbook is not perfect lately but come on. -101, +100 lines!! Every rose has its torn you know. You can even get NBA spread bets at +108. (If other side is -109)
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          • Mudcat
            Restricted User
            • 07-21-05
            • 9287

            #6
            I agree with the message here. I wish there was more going on at Matchbook like there used to be. It would be in the best interest of all gamblers.
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            • michael777
              SBR MVP
              • 09-20-05
              • 1936

              #7
              matchbook is already dead for me,been dead a long time
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              • Fishhead
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-11-05
                • 40179

                #8
                For you folks that say things like "baseball the only thing MB is good for" OR "Matchbook has been dead for me for long time"....................YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE KIDDING or you must have an AGENDA TO BASH MATCHBOOK..........because I certainly believe none of you here are this ignorant in the least.



                MATCHBOOK is a must out for a variety of reasons..........


                Pay attention to what poster SAWYER stated in this thread, he is spot on!!
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                • joe blow
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 05-09-06
                  • 775

                  #9
                  Only off shore book i use
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                  • pirate
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 05-18-08
                    • 216

                    #10
                    They have got to do something fast about deposits and payouts. Right now my only deposit option is a 2 week instant deposit...and my withdrawal options are a ridiculous 4 percent bank wire or month wait on a miniscule 3000 check....ridiculous
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                    • greg66
                      Restricted User
                      • 09-04-06
                      • 151

                      #11
                      When is the new mangement taking over?
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                      • Legions36
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-17-10
                        • 3032

                        #12
                        I dont care what route i have to take to get money in and out of match as this is a must have book for any bettor. And that guy that said there only good for baseball has to be retarded, seems to me more often then not there lines are better than most spots. If your to lazy to go through the small things right now to accomodate match then you just dont need to be betting. Also anyone that complains about Match doesn't know sh-it. How hard is b2b that would be same day from the credible books.
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                        • wrongturn
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-06-06
                          • 2228

                          #13
                          Have you ever wondered why it always has to be the books/bookies telling you what odds you should have, and we players have no say whatsoever? Now you can turn the table by using Matchbook!
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                          • sharpcat
                            Restricted User
                            • 12-19-09
                            • 4516

                            #14
                            Too many shot takers on MB

                            All of you lowlives hanging -500 on a team that the market has at -200 just because you can, you are the ones who are ruining MB anybody who has gambled on more than 1 game in their life knows this is a bad line and for every one person you get to bite on this crap you chase 100 away from using MB.
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                            • maxvalue1
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 11-08-10
                              • 350

                              #15
                              Funding account is key...most rec bettors wont jump through hoops to fund account.
                              hopefully someone/book will come up with a way to easily transfer funds.
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                              • Chuck Sims
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-29-05
                                • 3072

                                #16
                                A lot of square losers knocking the future of sportsbetting which is the exchange.

                                Anybody laying -110 or even -105 on your side and total bets are getting fleeced.

                                I made a killing on Monday at the exchange with Auburn +165 and HT Oregon -1.5 +103. Also Auburn -1750 when they had the ball at the goal line.

                                Over a million dollars available on the Monday game. Live betting was huge.

                                Over $100,000 available on the Okl/Orl game. Before the game Orlando -1.5 +104. At Heritage I saw Okl +1.5 +105. Both were available at the same time.

                                Make offers.
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                                • sdtrader
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-23-09
                                  • 536

                                  #17
                                  I probably wouldn't gamble anymore if I didn't have Matchbook.
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                                  • Chuck Sims
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-29-05
                                    • 3072

                                    #18
                                    Note: Live betting is still new to the betting scene. The oldtimers that are still laying -110(fools) are not interested in live betting or making an offer. The saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks holds true. The new generation of bettors will not want to lay juice when making a side bet when they see Matchbook bettors offering even money.

                                    Funding is easy if you bet off-shore. Matchbook transfers with most of the top sportsbooks free of charge.
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                                    • the sink
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 03-04-10
                                      • 201

                                      #19
                                      Matchbook is Great!
                                      I would cry if matchbook died
                                      How can ppl bet -110?
                                      Even if there is no money on matchbook u can always get matched better then -110, ALWAYS
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                                      • jizay
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-07-09
                                        • 975

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sharpcat
                                        Too many shot takers on MB

                                        All of you lowlives hanging -500 on a team that the market has at -200 just because you can, you are the ones who are ruining MB anybody who has gambled on more than 1 game in their life knows this is a bad line and for every one person you get to bite on this crap you chase 100 away from using MB.
                                        Agree with several others on this thread - Matchy is my #1. Also agree here that the trap bidders are a big problem. It's worse than bidding out of market; if a market is quiet they put up an ask on one side that looks like the right price on the other (i.e., 98% for the team losing by blowout rather than winning by blow out) hoping to get hit. I front bids by these human filth whenever I get the chance and forward complaints to Matchy. Others should do the same. I do wish they would show trap bidders the door.
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                                        • kkkkk
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 03-30-09
                                          • 523

                                          #21
                                          the main reason is MB is popular only in America, they must try make it popular in Europe and Asia for more liquidity!
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                                          • sharpcat
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 12-19-09
                                            • 4516

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Chuck Sims
                                            A lot of square losers knocking the future of sportsbetting which is the exchange.

                                            Anybody laying -110 or even -105 on your side and total bets are getting fleeced.

                                            I made a killing on Monday at the exchange with Auburn +165 and HT Oregon -1.5 +103. Also Auburn -1750 when they had the ball at the goal line.

                                            Over a million dollars available on the Monday game. Live betting was huge.

                                            Over $100,000 available on the Okl/Orl game. Before the game Orlando -1.5 +104. At Heritage I saw Okl +1.5 +105. Both were available at the same time.

                                            Make offers.
                                            This is another major problem that contributes to the lack of liquidity at MB.

                                            -Because of the no commission on offers, everybody wants to make an offer and nobody wants to take them.

                                            -Nobody wants to make offers until the line is as accurate as its going to be (right before game time) because they know that their early offer is likely only going to get accepted if the line moves against them.

                                            -Its hard to get offers in late because MB has given their API out to so many people who have developed bots to buy and fill offers the second the line has moved.

                                            -When making offers you run the risk of not getting your offer filled or only part of it filled, so assume I am a kelly bettor and I want to get down 5% of my bankroll on a play but only half of my offer gets matched I would have had more long term growth of my bankroll by betting 5% of my roll at a higher price than betting 2.5% of my roll at the exchange price.

                                            I like matchbook but a lot of things need to change in order for them to get the volume that betfair has.

                                            -Change the commission structure in order to encourage egual trading.
                                            -Offer more funding and withdrawal methods to make it easier for players to move funds.
                                            -Eliminate situations of players taking shots (i.e. leaving an under total of 198 hanging in live betting when the total score is currently 205)
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                                            • LordVodka
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-17-09
                                              • 5206

                                              #23
                                              If MB dies it's MB's fault.
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                                              • Fishhead
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 08-11-05
                                                • 40179

                                                #24
                                                Thank you, these last few posts are a perfect indication why the vast majority(if not all) here should have an account with Matchbook if they play offshore.
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                                                • lasker
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-27-10
                                                  • 1683

                                                  #25
                                                  if it dies, it dies.

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                                                  • elgreco
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 12-16-09
                                                    • 988

                                                    #26
                                                    I agree. Save matchbook.
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                                                    • Fishhead
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                      • 40179

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by elgreco
                                                      I agree. Save matchbook.
                                                      I don't think we have to worry......
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                                                      • LordVodka
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-17-09
                                                        • 5206

                                                        #28
                                                        Like someone else said, the average Joe ain't gonna jump through hoops to play there. Book to book is the most convenient method right now and 5dimes won't do a b2b unless you rollover and have your money there for at least 30 days.
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                                                        • Fishhead
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-11-05
                                                          • 40179

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by LordVodka
                                                          Like someone else said, the average Joe ain't gonna jump through hoops to play there. Book to book is the most convenient method right now and 5dimes won't do a b2b unless you rollover and have your money there for at least 30 days.

                                                          I recommend they start jumping through hoops..........
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                                                          • vanzack
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 12-16-06
                                                            • 478

                                                            #30
                                                            I started a thread yesterday that got no response.....

                                                            But why do you guys think that MB doesnt offer ** or **?

                                                            Is it strictly a cost issue? Why wouldnt they offer the service, but pass the cost off to the user so that they could decide if it was worth it? I just cant come to any logical conclusion as to why they dont offer a rec gambler a way to deposit.
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                                                            • Hareeba!
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 07-01-06
                                                              • 37283

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by kkkkk
                                                              the main reason is MB is popular only in America, they must try make it popular in Europe and Asia for more liquidity!
                                                              I can't see that happening when a) few Europeans and Asians have any interest in US sports and b) they can use Betfair which runs rings around Matchbook on everything else
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                                                              • Peeig
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 02-06-08
                                                                • 567

                                                                #32
                                                                I have never bet at Matchbook, probably never will
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                                                                • Mudcat
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 07-21-05
                                                                  • 9287

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by sharpcat
                                                                  Too many shot takers on MB

                                                                  All of you lowlives hanging -500 on a team that the market has at -200 just because you can, you are the ones who are ruining MB anybody who has gambled on more than 1 game in their life knows this is a bad line and for every one person you get to bite on this crap you chase 100 away from using MB.


                                                                  Really? Why would someone hanging a sucker line chase 100 people away? You just don't play it. If I saw an offer for -500 on something that should be -200, it wouldn't even register with me.

                                                                  If anyone wants to accept the crap offer, it is no skin off my nutsack.

                                                                  I'm not trying to be argumentative but to me personally, I can't think of a bigger non-factor than that.
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                                                                  • FourLengthsClear
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-29-10
                                                                    • 3808

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jizay
                                                                    Agree with several others on this thread - Matchy is my #1. Also agree here that the trap bidders are a big problem. It's worse than bidding out of market; if a market is quiet they put up an ask on one side that looks like the right price on the other (i.e., 98% for the team losing by blowout rather than winning by blow out) hoping to get hit. I front bids by these human filth whenever I get the chance and forward complaints to Matchy. Others should do the same. I do wish they would show trap bidders the door.
                                                                    Is that really something that will put people off?

                                                                    It happens on most Betfair markets too and doesn't seem to be a major issue. It is true that the scumy offer is likely to be "fronted" more quickly on Betfair.

                                                                    I don't use Matchbook very much, mostly just to hedge but it would be a real shame if it did disappear.
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                                                                    • sharpcat
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 12-19-09
                                                                      • 4516

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Mudcat
                                                                      Really? Why would someone hanging a sucker line chase 100 people away? You just don't play it. If I saw an offer for -500 on something that should be -200, it wouldn't even register with me.

                                                                      If anyone wants to accept the crap offer, it is no skin off my nutsack.

                                                                      I'm not trying to be argumentative but to me personally, I can't think of a bigger non-factor than that.
                                                                      You are clearly classifying uneducated recreational bettors with yourself.

                                                                      When a recreational player catches Mr. ripoff artists -410 on Siena and the rest of the market is offering no more than -380 that recreational player is going to deposit his money with another book. Now does Mr. ripoff artist really need to get +410 on Marist when the true no-vig market value is +340???? Is a player asking for a bet with a 16% +EV not a little excessive???

                                                                      Much like you said if you see that line you will not even look twice at it, if a recreational player who is not funded sees that price he is not going to join that book.
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