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  • msdw1
    SBR High Roller
    • 02-12-08
    • 147

    #1
    Lower limit after losing at Heritage
    I joined this month after getting a free $500 account mailer. All of my bets are on totals. After a 5x rollover betting the 20% max ($100/game), I had them remove the $100/game limits. At $1800, I bet the balance twice to get up to $6k+. I lost the next two max bets at $3k (baseball and football) to go bust. When I reloaded, I received a 30% cash bonus but my baseball limits are now $1k.

    I notice that they don't post maximums. Are they decided on a per customer basis? Is it normal to have limits adjusted so quickly, especially after not winning?
  • Dark Horse
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-14-05
    • 13764

    #2
    As a general guideline, Heritage likes to keep things in-house. If you have questions, discuss things with them first. They are very flexible. And when they do you a favor, as they often do, they may add a request not to post it on a forum. That's part of their personality. It's a private betting club, with many benefits and unusual generosity. They're interested in a long term relationship with the customer. In terms of limits, if longevity is a concern to you, you want to be profiled as 'sharp, but not overly aggressive' instead of 'sharp, and extremely aggressive'. So stay under the radar a little, and try to get a feel for what they are comfortable with.

    If I understand correctly, the title of this topic is misleading. If they gave you a free 500 account, you didn't lose. They allowed you to lose their money with max limits. You can probably earn the limits back, but on your own dime.
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    • HedgeHog
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-11-07
      • 10128

      #3
      Your limits were set based on the deposit you just made, and had nothing to do with your winning or losing. After you complete this rollover, you can have your limits raised--at least that was the case with me. BTW, how much did you deposit? If, for example, you put in 5 grand or less, then a 1k limit is quite generous given your 30% bonus. No Book wants to give a bonus to a one (or two) and done bettor for obvious reasons (hint--arb).

      When you accept a bonus, I believe Heritage sets your limit at no more than 20% of your deposit which is just plain good business sense. Thus, if you want higher limits, you can do one of two things: (1) Deposit more or (2) pass on the bonus.
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      • Raven66
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-21-09
        • 824

        #4
        Freedom of speech. You can post whatever you want. Who cares how they feel. Spread the word.
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        • trixtrix
          Restricted User
          • 04-13-06
          • 1897

          #5
          hh is correct, when i completed to 500 free cash rollover, i had something like 3k limits, after making a 2.5k cash dep+ 30% bonus, my limits were scaled back to 700.
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          • wrongturn
            SBR MVP
            • 06-06-06
            • 2228

            #6
            It is smart business sense to limit wager to 20-30% of deposit when a good bonus is attached.
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            • mnorrell
              Restricted User
              • 09-02-10
              • 137

              #7
              I deposited 1.5K with a VERY generous cash bonus and my limits were 500 dollars, but he said that was because i took the backup insurance.
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              • Santo
                SBR MVP
                • 09-08-05
                • 2957

                #8
                What DH and others say above may well be correct for Heritage, but in general it's not always whether you win or lose that will determine your limits, but rather what you play vs the closing line.
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                • BigDaddy
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-01-06
                  • 8378

                  #9
                  did anyone catch that he bet his balance 2 times?


                  they do not like in and outs.


                  they offer to much to cater to bonus whores and bonus abusers (nothing wrong with bonus whores or abusers IMO but the book has the right to limit them if they so choose IMO)

                  they even say that on the site rules
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                  • Raven66
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 09-21-09
                    • 824

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BigDaddy
                    did anyone catch that he bet his balance 2 times?


                    they do not like in and outs.
                    Originally posted by BigDaddy


                    they offer to much to cater to bonus whores and bonus abusers (nothing wrong with bonus whores or abusers IMO but the book has the right to limit them if they so choose IMO)

                    they even say that on the site rules
                    You cares if ya hit and run. Its about us, not the books.
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                    • BigDaddy
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-01-06
                      • 8378

                      #11
                      i never said it was bad to do

                      you just can't do it at books that offer nice bonuses

                      they will not put up with it for to long.
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                      • Chuck Sims
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-29-05
                        • 3072

                        #12
                        Heritage's smart business model allows them to offer incredible bonuses. The bonus that refunds your entire initial deposit if you lose it is tremendous.
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                        • Raven66
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 09-21-09
                          • 824

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Chuck Sims
                          Heritage's smart business model allows them to offer incredible bonuses. The bonus that refunds your entire initial deposit if you lose it is tremendous.
                          Thats why I will put some funds in this book eventually.
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                          • ncat12
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-24-09
                            • 1170

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Raven66
                            Freedom of speech. You can post whatever you want. Who cares how they feel. Spread the word.
                            It has Nothing to due w/ 'free speech' ...which I do not believe Heritage or SBR is located in the good ol USA, you can blab all you want then come back and cry
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                            • msdw1
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 02-12-08
                              • 147

                              #15
                              Originally posted by HedgeHog
                              Your limits were set based on the deposit you just made, and had nothing to do with your winning or losing. After you complete this rollover, you can have your limits raised--at least that was the case with me. BTW, how much did you deposit? If, for example, you put in 5 grand or less, then a 1k limit is quite generous given your 30% bonus. No Book wants to give a bonus to a one (or two) and done bettor for obvious reasons (hint--arb).

                              When you accept a bonus, I believe Heritage sets your limit at no more than 20% of your deposit which is just plain good business sense. Thus, if you want higher limits, you can do one of two things: (1) Deposit more or (2) pass on the bonus.
                              I reloaded for $3k.
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                              • HedgeHog
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-11-07
                                • 10128

                                #16
                                With the 30% bonus then you were nearly at 4k, so it looks like they were letting you bet 25% of your bankroll, which seems fair. As I say, you will likely get your higher limits back after you complete the RO
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                                • Fishhead
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 08-11-05
                                  • 40179

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                  With the 30% bonus then you were nearly at 4k, so it looks like they were letting you bet 25% of your bankroll, which seems fair. As I say, you will likely get your higher limits back after you complete the RO


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                                  • nosttrader
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 08-11-06
                                    • 72

                                    #18
                                    When I funded 3k they set my max limit to 3k. after rollover is met you can request them to increase limit.
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