Be careful playing with 5Dimes

[tltaylor89]

He knew that prop
was supposed to be more like 8/1 and
he took his shot .No wonder Tonys an ass.

[raydog]

sharpcat...this goes right back to my point earlier about why people take shots at bad lines...they lose so much they feel they "deserve or are owed" something from the book and therefor they take shots when they see a bad line..

red pal, human error happens and it happens at every single book on the planet...weather it be in vegas or offshore...you are missing the point, just like OP does...it doesnt matter when a line is changed ...THE FACT IS HE TOOK A SHOT AT A BAD LINE! after he took his shot, its fair game for the book to do whatever they want ... and thats in the rules... are you really this fukking stupid that you cant see this? nevermind, its obvious you are... would you like someone trying to steal from you? doubt it

[wtf]

who u shill for sharpcat? you should tell everyone for full disclosure since your are so into following the letter of law

[raydog]

ill keep posting this until every moron on the board realizes ...
to win was 50/1
Tony: top 5 was 8/1
Tony: top 10 was 4/1
Tony: and what price do you think top 20 should have been?

its elementary math people...and for any of you to think that a guy, who admittedly makes hundreds of golf bets, didnt know that he was trying to cheat the book, well you are as stupid as the clown who made the thread.

he fukked himself with the bullshit story about why he bet paul casey at 425/1... get your head out of your asses people. doesnt make a shit difference how much money a book makes...how would you feel if someone tried to steal from you ...

[sharpcat]

who u shill for sharpcat? you should tell everyone for full disclosure since your are so into following the letter of law

Of course a guy who bets with SBR points is going to side with the shot taker on this one

[frostno98]

Of course a guy who bets with SBR points is going to side with the shot taker on this one

Okay you got the, rule so what! That's not the point. The book took his bet. The book would of gladly taken his losings if he lost on that ridiculous line. The book only reacted when their interest was threaten. I mean are you that blind that you don't see anything wrong here?

[sharpcat]

ill keep posting this until every moron on the board realizes ...
to win was 50/1
Tony: top 5 was 8/1
Tony: top 10 was 4/1
Tony: and what price do you think top 20 should have been?

its elementary math people...and for any of you to think that a guy, who admittedly makes hundreds of golf bets, didnt know that he was trying to cheat the book, well you are as stupid as the clown who made the thread.

he fukked himself with the bullshit story about why he bet paul casey at 425/1... get your head out of your asses people. doesnt make a shit difference how much money a book makes...how would you feel if someone tried to steal from you ...

Its a lost cause the only people in this thread backing this guy are guys who suck at gambling but dream of hitting it big one day even if it is because they cheated.

What if they accidentally added two zeros to the end of the line would the book be obligated to pay this guy $100,000?

If your bank accidentally added a zero to a deposit made to your account what would the bank do?

[footballcookie]

always has been a good book for me ive never had any problems

[MonkeyF0cker]

Neither party looks good here. Even B books shouldn't be taking shots at players no matter what the situation is. This was a blatant shot by 5Dimes, just as much as it was by the OP. An A+ book should be no-actioning bad lines before the event begins. Not days afterward.

[sharpcat]

Okay you got the, rule so what! That's not the point. The book took his bet. The book would of gladly taken his losings if he lost on that ridiculous line. The book only reacted when their interest was threaten. I mean are you that blind that you don't see anything wrong here?

You have no way of knowing what the book was going to do as a matter of fact they contacted him at a time when the bet still could have lost.

Regardless of what the book planned on doing this is the negative effect of taking a shot at a book.

I will ask again

What if your bank accidentally added a "0" to a deposit you made? Do you really think anybody is going to honor that?

[sharpcat]

Neither party looks good here. Even B books shouldn't be taking shots at players no matter what the situation is. This was a blatant shot by 5Dimes, just as much as it was by the OP. An A+ book should be no-actioning bad lines before the event takes place. Not days afterward.

I agree MF but we do not know they may not have caught it until then 5dimes hangs hundreds if not thousands of wagers a day.

--5Dimes reserves the right to correct grading errors at any time. Incorrect payouts due to grading/software error and any additional earnings from those payouts are subject to voiding/forfeiture.--

If the player read the rules he would have known that there was a lot of risk involved taking a shot here.

[raydog]

Okay you got the, rule so what! That's not the point. The book took his bet. The book would of gladly taken his losings if he lost on that ridiculous line. The book only reacted when their interest was threaten. I mean are you that blind that you don't see anything wrong here?

no bad dead goes unpunished...people take shots all the time at bad lines. sometimes they go unnoticed by the book and the player ends up losing that money....i also said this earlier...whats a player going to do, call up 5dimes and say "uh hey, i am a crooked player and i took a shot at a bad line and it lost, can you refund my money...thanks" ... that would be so stupid it would be great to hear...but it never happens

you fire at a shit line get busted doing it, you deserve whatever happens to that money...and its not just 5dimes, no book will return your money if you lose firing at a bad line and you dont deserve the money back anyways...

books dont owe you anything...you dont deserve a bad line every now and then... its a business, not charity

[Redchevy]

Read the rules all books do this it is an industry standard if you do not like it move to vegas

The Greek: The Greek Sportsbook reserves the right to refuse or limit any wager. This may include, but not limited to past-posted plays, obvious line errors, or exceeded bet limit amounts.

Bookmaker: 24. In the case of an obvious error on the posted line, scheduled time, or maximum wager, any wagers will be deemed a "no action" wager, and all money will be credited accordingly.

Bet Jamaica: BetJamaica reserves the right to refuse or limit any wager. This may include, but not limited to past posted plays, obvious line errors, or exceeded bet limit amounts.

5Dimes: 5Dimes reserves the right to correct grading errors at any time. Incorrect payouts due to grading/software error and any additional earnings from those payouts are subject to voiding/forfeiture.

Betonline: BetOnline cannot be held responsible for any computer, typing or human error when posting odds, lines or point spreads. However, in the case of obvious mechanical, technical or human error in the prices or conditions we publish, we reserve the right, at our discretion, to correct obvious errors and to No-Action your wager.

Read the rules before you play people

Thanks for the wake up call Sharpcat, I never knew it was an offshore standard that you could change the rules or wagers midstream if they weren't in the books favor. I guess I'm just an old school guy that always believed that a legitimate bet, was legitimate. I think my old school bookies left a lot on the table being honest, meaning they actually paid if you covered by a 1/2 a point. Your biggest point that I really don't understand is, that if you don't like it" Move to Vegas"? Are you implying that Vegas is the only place that you can get a fair and legitimate "Old School" wager placed, instead of these offshore "Monkey Cages", that you call "Sports Books"?? If you want to be a real "Sports Book", step up to the plate and be one. !!!!!!!!!!

[zharsanyi72]

"What if they accidentally added two zeros to the end of the line would the book be obligated to pay this guy $100,000?

If your bank accidentally added a zero to a deposit made to your account what would the bank do? "



Really!!
Those things happening ones in thousand years baby!!!
But this idiots posting wrong lines every single week!!!!!!!

[raydog]

i dont totally disagree monkey...i hate that there are so many bad lines getting posted, but letting people get away with betting them is not an answer for anything and thats why i like the rules the books have about changing odds when they please... it aint vegas and i understand that too, but when rules are in effect, people need to follow them and not act like babies when they are in the wrong. and i dont disagree that 5dimes shouldnt be an A book...the cutting of limits alone should knock them down to a B...still feel comfortable that i can get paid when i want and keep as much in there as i want...you dont get that too often these days

[sharpcat]

"What if they accidentally added two zeros to the end of the line would the book be obligated to pay this guy $100,000?

If your bank accidentally added a zero to a deposit made to your account what would the bank do? "



Really!!
Those things happening ones in thousand years baby!!!
But this idiots posting wrong lines every single week!!!!!!!

Good point maybe he should just stop giving us so many betting options that way we can never find any lines that have value.

Spoken like a true square

Oh by the way you misspelled once thats gonna cost you $100,000

[sharpcat]

Thanks for the wake up call Sharpcat, I never knew it was an offshore standard that you could change the rules or wagers midstream if they weren't in the books favor. I guess I'm just an old school guy that always believed that a legitimate bet, was legitimate. I think my old school bookies left a lot on the table being honest, meaning they actually paid if you covered by a 1/2 a point. Your biggest point that I really don't understand is, that if you don't like it" Move to Vegas"? Are you implying that Vegas is the only place that you can get a fair and legitimate "Old School" wager placed, instead of these offshore "Monkey Cages", that you call "Sports Books"?? If you want to be a real "Sports Book", step up to the plate and be one. !!!!!!!!!!

yes this is what I am implying a square bettor may not understand but sharp bettors attack weak lines and in vegas after they get hit 3 times in 5 minutes on a prop bet they can spot the error much easier than an online shop that would get hit 100 times in 5 minutes.

Sharp bettors do not bet obvious line errors because they know that their bet is going to be voided anyhow and all they are doing is allowing a shady book to freeroll them if this rule was not in place books would either go out of business or just simply stop offering as many betting options and any sharp player knows that the less betting options there are the sharper the remaining lines will be and you would hardly ever be able to find valuable plays.

[Winner_13]

what I dont get is that they adjusted the odds.

The linesmaker that adjusted the odds down to +1000 should be fired how the **** he get that job if it was +200 everywhere else?

If they dont adjust the odds correctly, and wait til the bets about to cash.

Come on you sharps you know that theres something fishy here.

Yea If it was me I wouldnt have bet it. I would have actually told them and hoped for a free play.

I did this with betphoenix (didnt get anything).

But you know Tony took a shot first ...what do you do when some1 takes a shot at you?

That sounds corny but this guy hit him back.

[Redchevy]

no bad dead goes unpunished...people take shots all the time at bad lines. sometimes they go unnoticed by the book and the player ends up losing that money....i also said this earlier...whats a player going to do, call up 5dimes and say "uh hey, i am a crooked player and i took a shot at a bad line and it lost, can you refund my money...thanks" ... that would be so stupid it would be great to hear...but it never happens

you fire at a shit line get busted doing it, you deserve whatever happens to that money...and its not just 5dimes, no book will return your money if you lose firing at a bad line and you dont deserve the money back anyways...

books dont owe you anything...you dont deserve a bad line every now and then... its a business, not charity

I just have to ask this, are you the Books' late night Customer Service Rep? Because if you are, I can see 9/10 of the problem right here. "you fire at a shit line get busted doing it, you deserve what happens" What the "F%&K" are you even talking about, did you even graduate 3rd grade?????????????? I have another question, where do you get your daily lines from, "Moss Code" or "Carrier Pidgeon". I guess I was really fooled here, I thought you guys offshore were for real, I guess not!!!!

[Winner_13]

again for the 10th time...

wheres SBR reps?

[sharpcat]

again for the 10th time...

wheres SBR reps?

There is nothing to dispute here :lowdown:

Have you ever noticed that overtime a player has a legit dispute that either Justin or Lou step in the thread and offer assistance.

No Lou, No Justin, No dispute player took a shot book followed the rules that were agreed upon when opening the account

[sharpcat]

I just have to ask this, are you the Books' late night Customer Service Rep? Because if you are, I can see 9/10 of the problem right here. "you fire at a shit line get busted doing it, you deserve what happens" What the "F%&K" are you even talking about, did you even graduate 3rd grade?????????????? I have another question, where do you get your daily lines from, "Moss Code" or "Carrier Pidgeon". I guess I was really fooled here, I thought you guys offshore were for real, I guess not!!!!

This would be "Morse Code" this could have just cost you $100,000

[raydog]

son, you make no sense at all..no i dont work for them and no i dont have anything to do with any offshore books...i simply understand what is right and wrong and dont like seeing people make asses of themselves and cause problems when they are at fault....

you asked what im talking about when people fire at a shit line....it means when you bet into a bad line and that bet loses, hell no you dont deserve some sort of refund....if the bet is found before the end of the game/match, it is typically voided, but if its not and loses, yes , you deserve to lose that money...why the fukk wouldnt you?? gawd why do people think they should get paid when they try to cheat and take advantage of obvious human error...people... very very rarely will you ever get away with it and nothing good can come from it, so just dont do it. report the bad line and sometimes you will get a free play or something.

where do i get my lines from? i BUY my lines from the service that i believe to be the best in the business...nothing amateur here pal.

you are too stupid for me to talk to anymore...goodnight

[shari91]

again for the 10th time...

wheres SBR reps?

Have you read the thread? Two have already responded in here, quite forthrightly I may add.

[Redchevy]

yes this is what I am implying a square bettor may not understand but sharp bettors attack weak lines and in vegas after they get hit 3 times in 5 minutes on a prop bet they can spot the error much easier than an online shop that would get hit 100 times in 5 minutes.

Sharp bettors do not bet obvious line errors because they know that their bet is going to be voided anyhow and all they are doing is allowing a shady book to freeroll them if this rule was not in place books would either go out of business or just simply stop offering as many betting options and any sharp player knows that the less betting options there are the sharper the remaining lines will be and you would hardly ever be able to find valuable plays.

So what are you telling me, in Vegas they have someone actually paying attention to what's coming over the counter on any particular bet and can adjust it accordingly? And when it comes to the offshore numbers, what do you guys do, sleep for 3 days at a time until you look at the liability sheet????? Give me a break, you guys know exactly where your numbers are on a minute to minute basis, I'm not buying that, " We're Sorry", bad line mentality.

[Redchevy]

This would be "Morse Code" this could have just cost you $100,000

I love the Pats this week, so it's "Moss Code"!!!! Lay it in!!!!!

[sharpcat]

So what are you telling me, in Vegas they have someone actually paying attention to what's coming over the counter on any particular bet and can adjust it accordingly? And when it comes to the offshore numbers, what do you guys do, sleep for 3 days at a time until you look at the liability sheet????? Give me a break, you guys know exactly where your numbers are on a minute to minute basis, I'm not buying that, " We're Sorry", bad line mentality.

It is sad that you are arguing this and have never placed a sports wager in Vegas

Yes I have on many occasions witnessed a linesman immediately adjust betting odds after me placing a large wager and yes this is a very common occurrence on prop bets in LV where 1 max wager on a small market prop is fully capable of moving a line.

[Winner_13]

Conclusion:

1.5 DIMES IS AS SHADY AS THEY COME.

THEY CHANGED THE ODDS DOWN TO+1000 NOT CANCELING THE PLAYERS BETS THAT WERE AT +2000

THEY RECOGNIZED THEY MADE AN ERROR AND CHANGED THE ODDS NOT CANCELING THE BETS THEY CANCELED WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSABLY ABOUT TO CASH

2. DON'T BET BAD LINES REPORT IT HOPE FOR A FREEPLAY

3. .RIGHT OR WRONG THAT WAS SHADY U WOULDN'T EXPECT A LOCAL TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT

-AS THE CONCLUSION SEEMS TO BE IF THE BET LOST 5DIMES WOULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING KEPT THE $ AS THEY INDUCED PEOPLE TO BET THOSE PLAYERS

[Grandmaster B]

Conclusion:

1.5 DIMES IS AS SHADY AS THEY COME.

THEY CHANGED THE ODDS DOWN TO+1000 NOT CANCELING THE PLAYERS BETS THAT WERE AT +2000

THEY RECOGNIZED THEY MADE AN ERROR AND CHANGED THE ODDS NOT CANCELING THE BETS THEY CANCELED WHEN IT WAS SUPPOSABLY ABOUT TO CASH

2. DON'T BET BAD LINES REPORT IT HOPE FOR A FREEPLAY

3. .RIGHT OR WRONG THAT WAS SHADY U WOULDN'T EXPECT A LOCAL TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT

-AS THE CONCLUSION SEEMS TO BE IF THE BET LOST 5DIMES WOULDN'T HAVE DONE ANYTHING KEPT THE $ AS THEY INDUCED PEOPLE TO BET THOSE PLAYERS

this basically sums it up...you would have to be dumb as a rock not to see that 5dimes waited to see if the bet was going to lose before making a move

I feel sorry for people with big balances sitting in these offshore books...

Bookmaker is the only book Ive seen pay out 20dimes without batting a eyelash

5dimes
betjm
wsex
betus
skybook <<??
lazerwager <<closed
bodog
sportsinteraction

^^all those books belong in the same category...mickey mouse...I can make that statement from personal experiences...and if you dig hard enough...you will find the info showing (thats if you can sift through all the shill bs) that you as a customer are NOTHING to them...but a acct #

I would trust Intertops before any of those and I havent played there for 10 years

[Redchevy]

son, you make no sense at all..no i dont work for them and no i dont have anything to do with any offshore books...i simply understand what is right and wrong and dont like seeing people make asses of themselves and cause problems when they are at fault....

you asked what im talking about when people fire at a shit line....it means when you bet into a bad line and that bet loses, hell no you dont deserve some sort of refund....if the bet is found before the end of the game/match, it is typically voided, but if its not and loses, yes , you deserve to lose that money...why the fukk wouldnt you?? gawd why do people think they should get paid when they try to cheat and take advantage of obvious human error...people... very very rarely will you ever get away with it and nothing good can come from it, so just dont do it. report the bad line and sometimes you will get a free play or something.

where do i get my lines from? i BUY my lines from the service that i believe to be the best in the business...nothing amateur here pal.

you are too stupid for me to talk to anymore...goodnight

Two thumbs up Raydog, I'm actually surprised you can spell "Stupid", did your 3 year old spell check that for you before bedtime????????

[Grandmaster B]

Two thumbs up Raydog, I'm actually surprised you can spell "Stupid", did your 3 year old spell check that for you before bedtime????????

oh leave tonydog...err raydog alone...he is hard at work looking for bets in accts he can use to manipulate his rules...in his books favor

[sharpcat]

I see the usual town idiots have shown up as usual looking for internet arguments.

I am done here boys it is obvious I made stronger points in this debate when guys have to start resorting to name calling.

[2Bdown]

this douche Tony is like a digital bully, he will virtually break your fukkin knee caps if you mess with his website

[cap10]

5d is the shrit;; who else lets u buy parlay pts;;; str8 bets lose in the long run

[Reno Paul]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE