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  • John Dough
    SBR MVP
    • 09-21-05
    • 1785

    #36
    It's your bank. I've been depositing checks with the same bank (large regional bank, but not national) for a decade and never ever had a single problem, regardless of country of origin.
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    • LVBOUND
      SBR MVP
      • 07-25-08
      • 2658

      #37
      What is a good bank they got on Florida and Vegas?
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      • SPECULATOR 13
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 08-12-07
        • 768

        #38
        Originally posted by LVBOUND
        Spect....

        You think if I went to the M and tried to lay to win 1250 on for baseball games today I would get looked at funny?

        Also I know covers.com shows lines for Mirage, hard Rock, and I think LV Hilton.......

        Anywhere online they show south point and the M
        LVB

        i must admit that have never had the pleasure and privilege to go play at M personally since i haven't been to sin city since 06,however i can speak with authority about M because of the people i know personally witch have told me about M and whose opinions i trust to totally not only in betting but in general.
        These guys are leaving Toronto and London(uk) to relocate to Vegas just because of M!!!
        According to my friends if you try to drop $1250 on THAT baseball they will ask if you don't want to bet more!!!...No sh*t!!!!
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        • LVBOUND
          SBR MVP
          • 07-25-08
          • 2658

          #39
          Spec,

          Holy shit.you are making my day. That is just awesome.... anybody else in here can verify this?

          Also you mention Toronto. Is there legal sports betting in Toronto?


          Matt
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          • SPECULATOR 13
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 08-12-07
            • 768

            #40
            Originally posted by LVBOUND
            Spec,

            Holy shit.you are making my day. That is just awesome.... anybody else in here can verify this?

            Also you mention Toronto. Is there legal sports betting in Toronto?


            Matt
            LVB

            The betting options here in Toronto is so pathetic that i am ashamed to even talk about it,they only offer suckers bets to a equally stupid and clueless public.
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            • cyberinvestor
              SBR MVP
              • 04-30-10
              • 1952

              #41
              One of the things as a larger player about Vegas that I find as an issue is if you bet anything over $1000 they give you trouble UNLESS you are betting in the casino. A non-casino player will have a lot of trouble with limits if they want to bet $2000-$5000+ (unless it is NFL) a game. A casino player however can bet tens of thousands on the same game without issue.
              Today is the tomorrow we worried about yesterday.
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              • LVBOUND
                SBR MVP
                • 07-25-08
                • 2658

                #42
                Cyber.... when you say casino player what do you mean? Luke if I play lots of table games?
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                • GonzosDirtyTrail
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 06-26-10
                  • 714

                  #43
                  I've found I like offshore books for the live-betting, mostly because it's easy to win small amounts at a good volume if you watch a lot of games.

                  I've never made a bet higher than 1000 in Vegas, so I can't comment really.

                  Seems to me it comes down to convenience versus selection when deciding between Vegas and the offshores.
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                  • szk1983
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 07-08-06
                    • 642

                    #44
                    Nice to play offshore and be able to place a bet from anywhere.
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                    • LVBOUND
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-25-08
                      • 2658

                      #45
                      Weird. I just called the M sports book to ask about their limits and the guy told me he could not discuss betting or limits over the phone. I then told him I had an issue gettings bet placed downtown and her told me to just come in and they would take care of me. He Said they had the highest limits in town.
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                      • bbenson011
                        Restricted User
                        • 05-17-10
                        • 454

                        #46
                        VEGAS is great for getting paid but you have to weigh the pros and the cons...
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                        • dark star
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-04-09
                          • 3900

                          #47
                          Sportsoptions & Vegasinsider show lines from most Vegas properties
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                          • Chuck Sims
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-29-05
                            • 3072

                            #48
                            Matt, I live close by to "M". Betting big money at M is no problem. If you bet nickels and dimes on MLB, you really need to have an account at Matchbook. The money you save over the baseball season would be counted in the tens of thousands of dollars.
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                            • LVBOUND
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-25-08
                              • 2658

                              #49
                              I just checked Vegas insider for like an hour and I don't see as big of a difference between offshore books and live casinos in Vegas.

                              I found multiple games that were actually better than offshore.
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                              • Chuck Sims
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-29-05
                                • 3072

                                #50
                                Matt, You're not looking at Matchbook. Just one example: LVH has KC +180. MB has KC +200. If you bet as much as you say, the money you're losing out on would be enough to live on.
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                                • jbrent95
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-07-09
                                  • 1221

                                  #51
                                  Do the LV sports books allow phone accounts for Nevada residents?
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                                  • LVBOUND
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-25-08
                                    • 2658

                                    #52
                                    Brent I heard Leroys but not sure about the limits. Can anyone else confirm. I know when am in townr the bash I will be doing some research into this.

                                    Matt
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                                    • streak1234
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 06-29-10
                                      • 116

                                      #53
                                      Sports Books

                                      I am new to off shore sports books. What is the most economical way both to fund an account as well as from which to make a withdrawl. I have seen the reccommended books: which is the most player friendly?
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                                      • SPECULATOR 13
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-12-07
                                        • 768

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by LVBOUND
                                        Brent I heard Leroys but not sure about the limits. Can anyone else confirm. I know when am in townr the bash I will be doing some research into this.

                                        Matt
                                        Matt,

                                        Don't worry with M,LVH and Southpoint you will do just fine,
                                        also if you take the time to open the offshores i mention above even better.
                                        With all these options brother you wont know what to do with yourself
                                        Vic Selermo who own and operate Leroys said on the air in 09 when ask by John Kelly about the limits at Leroy's:

                                        He said unequivocally:"we take 5k on NFL sides no question ask and 2.5k on the NBA sides,same for baseball"
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                                        • JohnnyC
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-27-09
                                          • 504

                                          #55
                                          Books often say they take an amount way larger than what they give in practice.
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                                          • LVBOUND
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-25-08
                                            • 2658

                                            #56
                                            Johnny or anyone can you name an example of a book not practicing what they preach in Vegas?

                                            Matt
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                                            • JoshW
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 3431

                                              #57
                                              Peep and I were in downtown Vegas last year and the clerk at El Cortez sportsbook said they would take 2 dimes (might have been 5k was crazy number) on a WNBA halftime bet. That is an example of not practicing what they preach. No way they would take a bet that big.
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                                              • BrigadierPudding
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-07-09
                                                • 617

                                                #58
                                                Vegas lines = mini-Bodog value wise.

                                                Even the local places like the Stations casinos and the M.

                                                The M is one of the few that will take 3k-5k a game, but their lines are average to below average.

                                                Also, Vic is lying. The only way Leroys would take 5k on an NFL side is if it balanced the action.
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                                                • BrigadierPudding
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 11-07-09
                                                  • 617

                                                  #59
                                                  If you're betting bases early the M is very sharp on it. They put out overnight lines shortly after Pinny, so if you get in early the value is there. Sometimes it's not if it gets hit hard at open at Pinny.

                                                  Just picking a random game tonight - Reds/Mets:

                                                  Pinny opens Mets -130 and it gets hit right off the bat by a sharp, 10 minutes later they adjust to -125.
                                                  M opens it at Mets -127/Reds +117

                                                  It's pretty obvious what the M does. There's line value on the board every night but you're getting a tic worse of it by not playing offshore...and by offshore I mean Pinny. You're a US player, so you can't play there anyway. I like Matchbook but they aren't taking 3k-5k on sides. Anyone that tells you they will is lying.
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                                                  • LVBOUND
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-25-08
                                                    • 2658

                                                    #60
                                                    So it sounds to Me like playing at The M I'd not much different for us players in the states.


                                                    Right?

                                                    Matt
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                                                    • LVBOUND
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-25-08
                                                      • 2658

                                                      #61
                                                      OK Gus do help me out with something. When I bone to Vegas next April for baseball season. Should I fly or drive my car for my six month trip. Also I was looking at some apartments near flamingo and lv blvd. Should I be looking more near the M and south point?
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                                                      • BrigadierPudding
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-07-09
                                                        • 617

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by LVBOUND
                                                        So it sounds to Me like playing at The M I'd not much different for us players in the states.


                                                        Right?

                                                        Matt
                                                        For the most part, I'd agree. Most of the pros that play in Vegas either don't trust the internet/having their money offshore or just play both...meaning Vegas and offshore. Since you're not averse to playing offshore, there's nothing wrong with doing both. See what suits you best.
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                                                        • BrigadierPudding
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 11-07-09
                                                          • 617

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by LVBOUND
                                                          OK Gus do help me out with something. When I bone to Vegas next April for baseball season. Should I fly or drive my car for my six month trip. Also I was looking at some apartments near flamingo and lv blvd. Should I be looking more near the M and south point?
                                                          I've lived in Vegas. You don't wanna live that close to the strip. The atmosphere wears off in about a week. I'd recommend out by the M and Southpoint, or further out in Henderson near Green Valley Ranch.
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                                                          • LVBOUND
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-25-08
                                                            • 2658

                                                            #64
                                                            I seen somebody maker a comment on phone accounts. What is the real deal about these?
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                                                            • BROOKLYN BOY
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 07-11-07
                                                              • 265

                                                              #65
                                                              So yesterday I wanted to get down around 5k on Nadal and it was easy to do it online. Would that be hard in Vegas? Would I have to hit 10 books to do so?
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                                                              • Mr. Peepers
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-22-09
                                                                • 1425

                                                                #66
                                                                gamble with food...yeah it might go bad with time but nobody makes a fuss over chicken tenders and a diet cola
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                                                                • LVBOUND
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-25-08
                                                                  • 2658

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Well the more research I do I continue to find games with better lines at the M than most offshore books. Except pinny and matchbook.

                                                                  Pinny us Americans
                                                                  Matchbook can't get as much Money in play there.
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                                                                  • soli
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-10-06
                                                                    • 2503

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Offshore is more convient but Vegas is more secure
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                                                                    • BrigadierPudding
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 11-07-09
                                                                      • 617

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by LVBOUND
                                                                      I seen somebody maker a comment on phone accounts. What is the real deal about these?
                                                                      LV Hilton, The Orleans and The M all offer phone accounts for NV residents. There are others too but I'm not sure which ones.
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                                                                      • LVBOUND
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 07-25-08
                                                                        • 2658

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Fellas i am not sure who is going be around during the bash, but I would love to get a group of us together and check out The M. I know as cab outer bus from the Nugget has got to beer ridiculous!
                                                                        Who is interested?
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