[WireWire]

Sounds like MB wasn't happy with the -108 house edge the software was preset to and tampered with it. Instead of increasing their edge, THEY set the odds to roughly +106 in the players' advantage. LOL, how piggish and serves them right that they got burned.

Just so I fully understand, despite having a +106 edge overall, the player could still lose on each individual spin, correct? In other words, the player merely had a +Ev situation, with NO control of any single outcome?

Just like in BJ as a card counter when the true count gets to +2 or higher its advantage player, but that doesn't always mean you win that session, but if you play 10,000's of thousands of hands only when the true count is +2 or higher you will come out ahead.

[HedgeHog]

its 100% clear that this slot was buggy and void
I can just laugh about OP now

e.g. when you see an ATM which gives you free money because of software error its
a) still not legal to keep the money
b) its a laughable to demand the money they dont want to pay you


pls upload a video how you betsize bug abuse the slot so we can all laugh

I can't help but laugh at your only 2 posts EVER! As I hinted at after your first post, I'm 99.99% certain that you are a ghost account. I've narrowed it down to 3 posters in this thread, the most likely being Sportsbettor74 who craves confirmation. I request that SBR review your registration to confirm or refute my accusation. And in the .01% chance I'm wrong, hey welcome to the Forum buddy!

[semibluff]

Sounds like MB wasn't happy with the -108 house edge the software was preset to and tampered with it. Instead of increasing their edge, THEY set the odds to roughly +106 in the players' advantage. LOL, how piggish and serves them right that they got burned.

Just so I fully understand, despite having a +106 edge overall, the player could still lose on each individual spin, correct? In other words, the player merely had a +Ev situation, with NO control of any single outcome?

The players had no control over any single outcome.

I am merely guesstimating the players' net overall edge. I doubt the players themselves knew exactly how big the edge was because once an angle is identified the objective is to shoot it and get the money rather than document it. The profit was made on an infrequently occurring bonus feature whilst the rest of the game was more -ev than -108. If the net overall edge was somewhere around +106 the players would not only have losing spins, they would have losing sessions. The game manufacturer is implying, but not categorically stating, that the game could be manipulated to became +106 because of actions the operating bookmaker made. Since very few people will know for sure what the operating bookmaker actually did this might not be easy to legally prove. The operating bookmaker will probably claim that this +106(ish) net overall edge is the fault of manufacturer who didn't set the game up correctly with the books existing software or provide the right instructions. I hope SBR can help resolve the matter but I could see this becoming even messier than it already is.
I don't want to pick sides but it's hard to feel sorry for MyBookie.

No offence is intended with the angle-shooting comment. It may, or may not, be accurate, but that's how it looks from the outside.

[Mugsy777]

Why can't some of you guys see the truth? The player took a shot, and the book is as crooked as could be! Both can be true , and are true

[Kaabee]

I'm very skeptical that mybookie altered anything. Casinos normally just host the games. They don't have access to the game code.

[Barrakuda]

This is wrong and anyone joining the thread at this point should ignore it. From what's been posted the slot game manufacturers created a slot machine betting experience that was financially the equivalent of betting a -108, -108 coin flip line. Instead of leaving the machine as the manufacturers had set it up MyBookie somehow tampered with the settings. That alteration meant it could be manipulated into being a -108, +106(ish) opportunity. Several people identified the alteration and understood that it moved the payout percentage in their favour. They then pummelled the +106 opportunity relentlessly.

yeah, I'm sure there was a setting that said, "Do not alter unless you want to go bankrupt" -- LOL. A bug that is only activated in a certain setting is still a bug.

[Barrakuda]

Sounds like MB wasn't happy with the -108 house edge the software was preset to and tampered with it. Instead of increasing their edge, THEY set the odds to roughly +106 in the players' advantage. LOL, how piggish and serves them right that they got burned.

Just so I fully understand, despite having a +106 edge overall, the player could still lose on each individual spin, correct? In other words, the player merely had a +Ev situation, with NO control of any single outcome?

If you think books can "tamper" with pre-built casino software, you really have a lot to learn. No doubt there are settings avail. to any software licensee. Changing settings does not equate to tampering -- which would require somehow gaining access to the source code, the expertise to alter it and re-create a new version of the app.

This is MyBookie we're talking about, not some elite team of software hackers.

[Barrakuda]

That's awesome. Great points! You know, without even knowing that there was a flaw, or something wrong with the slot, that would make perfect sense. I guess we all just played it as we saw how the slot was as presented to the Player, and that there were times that it won big and there were definitely times that it lost big. But in the end, a select amount of Players (and there could be more, we don't know) ended-up having a large balance win from that slot and maybe the other Take "slot". It looks like Betsoft had nothing to do with this, and that MYB just screwed it up internally. Unreal if true. But it makes perfect sense though. MYB could have caused their own issue and now doesn't want to take ownership for getting "cute" with the slot and it apparently backfired on them. Could that also mean that MYB was trying to rip the Player if they ended-up changing the settings? It makes for an interesting discussion.

No one screwed up except for your greedy ass. Get the fuk out of here. Some people get screwed over by books for no reason, and you're here spamming the forum with your bullshit complaint after getting caught exploiting an obvious bug.

[HedgeHog]

If you think books can "tamper" with pre-built casino software, you really have a lot to learn. No doubt there are settings avail. to any software licensee. Changing settings does not equate to tampering -- which would require somehow gaining access to the source code, the expertise to alter it and re-create a new version of the app.


This is MyBookie we're talking about, not some elite team of software hackers.

"Tamper" is not my term. Rather I repeated it when attempting to restate another poster's explanation of what possibly occurred. But you're right, I have a lot to learn regarding casino software as I am mainly a sports and horse bettor. No doubt there was some glitch that allowed players to profit, which was evident from Spencer's explanation of the game. The $1 Million dollar question is how did it get there. My Bookie blames Bet Soft, while Bet Soft claims there is no glitch in this game's software. So who do you believe? I don't know Bet Soft at all, but I do have experience with MB--and their word means nothing to me. I wouldn't put it past MB to try to increase their edge on the game, if that is possible (is it?...I don't know). Further, I could see them fukking it up, which would make them more liable. Another reason to believe Bet Soft's version is that this game is used at other Books without incident. Unless I'm mistaken, there are 8 known cases thus far and they all involve MB. If true, that is beyond strange.

[Patrick McIrish]

If you think books can "tamper" with pre-built casino software, you really have a lot to learn.

Call it what you want but these books can make adjustments to this BS casino software they are using.

Tampering implies wrongdoing, let's just say they can manage or "adjust" settings.

Did they? I have no idea but let's not pretend you need a team of elite hackers to manage casino software.

It's not one size fit all kind of deal.

[Spencerho]

If you are new here, I encourage you to look at my previous posts, I have explained in detail exactly what the situation is. At the end of the day, my only intention is to be as transparent as possible with you readers in regards to the gameplay functionality and how I played the game personally; whether or not you believe me is up to you to decide. However, in my perspective, I only played the game within the rules provided to me and any other player who played this game, and in my opinion there is no justification for MyBookie to blame players of something that they as a platform should clearly be responsible for.

[2] okay, so this is where I hope I dont confuse you guys; yes we were allowed to switch our bet sizes, but everytime the the bet size was switched, it would reset the entire template, clear all previous bombs accumulated and reset our spin cycle back to 10. At no given time were we allowed to switch the bet size within a cycle.

So say I was betting 10 dollars and I spun it 3 times, I would NOT be able to all of the sudden bet 20 dollars on the 4th spin or the spins thereafter; if I want to increase my bet size, I would have to click the $20 bet cycle tab and reset the entire template completely, no bombs from the 10 dollar cycle would be saved and I would have a fresh 10 spins, each spin would then cost $20 dollars.

[3] "So the glitch allowed them to spin 9 times on the lowest bet amount, then on the 10th spin change bet to higher amount. So all the bombs on 10th spin turn to wild and it’s a big payout. Now that the glitch is fixed every bet change resets bombs accumulated."

This is simply not true, like I stated in [2], we were not able to change our bet size within the cycle. The 10th spin would also have to be the same amount ($10). If I spun all the way to the 9th spin during a 10 dollar cycle and I all of the sudden wanted to then bet 20 dollars, I would have to completely start over a new betting cycle and bet from a fresh template with 10 spins, no bombs from the previous $10 template would be counted at all.

Does this clear things up a bit?

Also, this is the reason why I would switch my bet cycles constantly so that I would not have to waste unnecessary funds on a bad cycle. Say I chose the $10 bet cycle, spun it 3 times (which cost me $30), and only one or two bombs came out; that would mean I have only 7 more spins to accumulate the necessary bombs needed to get the payout by the 10th spin. Since the amount of spins available during a specified cycle is crucial toward accumulating as many bombs as possible, it only made sense to me to increase my win probability by maximizing the amount of spins I was allowed.

So for example, if I spun 3 times during the $10 dollar cycle and only one bomb came out, I would view that cycle as unfavorable, cut my losses at $30 and I would then switch to say the $20 bet cycle, which would reset the template completely, giving me 10 fresh spins. (The one bomb would be removed) My ultimate goal is to accumulate as many bombs as EARLY as possible, because it leads to a higher probability of getting the necessary amount required for the payout by the 10th spin.

At no point in time am I allowed to bet $20 during the $10 cycle; I simply chose to cut my losses early during a specified betting cycle in favor of getting more spins by starting another betting cycle.

It is still risky on my part because I am essentially wasting the amount I bet from the previous cycle; if I have explained it clearly enough you can see that the money I choose to forgo in order for me to switch bet cycles literally goes straight to MyBookie and does nothing to benefit me for the next betting cycle.

[RAIDER1223]

Hello Spencer / Rickron:

FYI: I have filed specific Complaints against Betsoft, My Bookie, and Digital Software Limited with Licensing Authorities connected to reach of them. Betsoft's and My Bookie's Management have also been contacted by me, as SBR continues to help us on their side towards a positive resolution.

As communicated between us, we wait for the next update from SBR.

I want to thank Optional for all of his diligence and efforts throughout.

RAIDER1223

[DontTailMe]

TO: Judge Crater / DontTailMe / jacksonstreet / SportsBetter74 / lonnie55 / Ewan101.
...
I'm happy to see that each of you mentioned pieces of the private message in public. Of course the other parts weren't shared because you don't want those mentioned on this forum.
...
I respected each of you enough to send you my thoughts about your treatment of myself in private, but you chose to make parts of it public. Honestly, I expected this. My message was written with the potential that it would be posted by at least one of you.

Sorry, I've been on vacation and just came back to read this.

You truly are delusional. You wrote me a long PM lecturing me, calling me a jerk and an asshole, and demanding that I owe you a public apology. That is what you call respecting me enough to send your thoughts in private? Please.

If you prefer, I can post the entire PM here and allow everyone to see just how unhinged you are.

It's not about the fact that each of you disagreed with my position. It has nothing to do with that. Disagreeing with me is not the issue here. It's about your approach when disagreeing. It's only about how each of you came out of the gates to be extremely rude, mean, hostile, and firmly cement and demonstrate why social media is arguably one of the worst things the human race has ever created.

You live in an alternate reality. I just went through every single one of my interactions with you in this thread, and I'm confident that you cannot point to posts which support your position here. In fact, YOU are the one who tried to turn the conversation into a hostile one at several points, completely unprovoked. The only crime I committed was not 100% agreeing with every point you made (while many of my posts actually did support your position in various ways).

Here is exactly how it transpired...

We had cordial back and forth over the first 12+ pages. Then, out of nowhere, you reply to Joe Cool with this completely insane accusation which has no basis in fact:

Because he's a bookie outside of this forum and posts L'sOTD to idiots whom are dumb enough to follow him. That's why. Maybe if his L'sOTD were any good, perhaps he could win $210,000 like I did. Wait! Hold on.....he can't. Why? Because according to him since he has all of the facts, I cheated 7-10 slot games. Remember?

I replied, asking you where the hell this was coming from, and you chose not to respond. Then on Page 16, you were the first to call anyone names:

The six Posters look like complete morons now. No one should listen to any of them.They are all unintelligent bums.[ace7750, Crusherrr, DontTailMe, Judge Crater, SportsBettor74, and Judge Crater.]

Incredibly, the first time that I mocked you was on Page 17, Post #569, and the only reason I did this is because you literally wrote a 404-word post trashing SBR & Optional - the very people you were asking to help you. Then on Page 18, Post #597, you acknowledge that this was the first time I mocked you and that trashing SBR / Optional wasn't the best decision.

Every other post that I made was simply observing and drawing conclusions based on evidence. These are the facts. You obviously have a difficult time keeping track of the facts because in your PM you also accused me of saying that spencerho, rickron, et al. were really you posting, while in reality I was one of the few who defended you and said that this was not the case. So, yeah, when I got your PM, I was just a little annoyed. I don't need to be lectured over PM by someone who's been calling me names just for doing my duty and contributing to this forum. Nothing between us needs to be private because you've made it very clear that you don't intend to be civil with me. If that's the case, you can do it here, for all to see.

Go ahead and keep digging deeper. I have the receipts.

[RAIDER1223]

Sorry, I've been on vacation and just came back to read this.

You truly are delusional. You wrote me a long PM lecturing me, calling me a jerk and an asshole, and demanding that I owe you a public apology. That is what you call respecting me enough to send your thoughts in private? Please.

If you prefer, I can post the entire PM here and allow everyone to see just how unhinged you are.



You live in an alternate reality. I just went through every single one of my interactions with you in this thread, and I'm confident that you cannot point to posts which support your position here. In fact, YOU are the one who tried to turn the conversation into a hostile one at several points, completely unprovoked. The only crime I committed was not 100% agreeing with every point you made (while many of my posts actually did support your position in various ways).

Here is exactly how it transpired...

We had cordial back and forth over the first 12+ pages. Then, out of nowhere, you reply to Joe Cool with this completely insane accusation which has no basis in fact:



I replied, asking you where the hell this was coming from, and you chose not to respond. Then on Page 16, you were the first to call anyone names:



Incredibly, the first time that I mocked you was on Page 17, Post #569, and the only reason I did this is because you literally wrote a 404-word post trashing SBR & Optional - the very people you were asking to help you. Then on Page 18, Post #597, you acknowledge that this was the first time I mocked you and that trashing SBR / Optional wasn't the best decision.

Every other post that I made was simply observing and drawing conclusions based on evidence. These are the facts. You obviously have a difficult time keeping track of the facts because in your PM you also accused me of saying that spencerho, rickron, et al. were really you posting, while in reality I was one of the few who defended you and said that this was not the case. So, yeah, when I got your PM, I was just a little annoyed. I don't need to be lectured over PM by someone who's been calling me names just for doing my duty and contributing to this forum. Nothing between us needs to be private because you've made it very clear that you don't intend to be civil with me. If that's the case, you can do it here, for all to see.

Go ahead and keep digging deeper. I have the receipts.

Sorry man. I'm just a bad guy I guess. I'll never win with you unfortunately. I'm taking the high road here. No more fighting and bickering.

[DontTailMe]

Great. I hope you mean it this time.

[HedgeHog]

Great. I hope you mean it this time.

Personalities aside, where do you stand after 24 pages of this drama? You and I agree that MB is a shiit book; almost everyone in this thread concurs. Likewise, I'll concede that the OP is a deceitful, manipulative prick whom has made this thread 20 pages longer than it needed to be, and stupidly attacked the one person that could possibly help him. But then you have Spencer with a similar issue at the same Book, along with at least 6 others. Further, Bet Soft claims there is no glitch in their software, and this appears to be supported by the lack of cases at other Books that also host this game. To me, this points to MB likely creating this "glitch" that allowed players to gain an advantage over them. As such, I believe their liability is significantly higher than just the payouts they've made thus far.

[RAIDER1223]

Personalities aside, where do you stand after 24 pages of this drama? You and I agree that MB is a shiit book; almost everyone in this thread concurs. Likewise, I'll concede that the OP is a deceitful, manipulative prick whom has made this thread 20 pages longer than it needed to be, and stupidly attacked the one person that could possibly help him. But then you have Spencer with a similar issue at the same Book, along with at least 6 others. Further, Bet Soft claims there is no glitch in their software, and this appears to be supported by the lack of cases at other Books that also host this game. To me, this points to MB likely creating this "glitch" that allowed players to gain an advantage over them. As such, I believe their liability is significantly higher than just the payouts they've made thus far.

Brutal.

[rickron]

Sounds good. Yeah only thing we can do is wait for now. Hopefully we get some good news in the next coming days. And yes Thank you Optional for his work in all this.

[Ewan101]

If you are new here, I encourage you to look at my previous posts, I have explained in detail exactly what the situation is. At the end of the day, my only intention is to be as transparent as possible with you readers in regards to the gameplay functionality and how I played the game personally; whether or not you believe me is up to you to decide. However, in my perspective, I only played the game within the rules provided to me and any other player who played this game, and in my opinion there is no justification for MyBookie to blame players of something that they as a platform should clearly be responsible for.

Spencer - if you wish to be truly transparent then list the exact steps taken to make the two "Take the" slots to your advantage. List them plainly and clearly. Take some time and give us the steps in numbered points - step by step. We know there were certain steps you and the others took because Optional tells us so:

"The problem is that there is no need to accept a loss, as the game setting allowed players to keep resetting to start the feature again multiple times. It no longer works that way."

Rickron: "This feature that allows players to adjust their bet amount was integrated into the gameplay from the very beginning of its release date in 2019"


Just take us through the exact steps in a calm and orderly way so all here can see the steps you and the others took to gain your advantage.

We also know that you have given the exact steps to Optional - because Optional has told us in one of his posts that after several weeks he was finally able to understand exactly what you and the others did to gain your advantage. You have told Optional - now tell all of us here.

[Ewan101]

Personalities aside, where do you stand after 24 pages of this drama? You and I agree that MB is a shiit book; almost everyone in this thread concurs. Likewise, I'll concede that the OP is a deceitful, manipulative prick whom has made this thread 20 pages longer than it needed to be, and stupidly attacked the one person that could possibly help him. But then you have Spencer with a similar issue at the same Book, along with at least 6 others. Further, Bet Soft claims there is no glitch in their software, and this appears to be supported by the lack of cases at other Books that also host this game. To me, this points to MB likely creating this "glitch" that allowed players to gain an advantage over them. As such, I believe their liability is significantly higher than just the payouts they've made thus far.

The bottom line is that the OP created this thread in an attempt to shame MyBookie and increase his likelihood of getting paid. He pretended that it was for other reasons (to warn people etc).

The OP has failed because there is significant opposition here to the idea that he has a rightful claim. Some think he has a rightful claim, others do not. The key is that there is significant questioning of what he and the others did. So the plan to make this thread a one way ticket to getting paid has failed dismally.

Whether or not the OP succeeds will be down to the SBR negotiations and any court action the OP and others wish to take. But if this thread was designed to be another "arrow" in the fight to shame MyBookie then this has been a complete failure - largely due to the unhinged, manipulative and deceitful personality of the OP.

I would really like to know the exact detail of how the OP and others converted the slot into +206. Hopefully Spencer will respond with the exact steps.

If MyBookie did adjust the settings and thereby mistakenly change the slot into +206 (or whatever) then MyBookie will fall back on this term - which allows them to make a mistake and not be taken advantage of (similar to posting a "bad line"):

"We reserve the right to deduct from your account any payouts, bonuses, or winnings due to activities which include:

7. Unfair advantage, which is defined as the abuse of a fault, loophole, or error in our software."

[Judge Crater]

The bottom line is that the OP created this thread in an attempt to shame MyBookie and increase his likelihood of getting paid.."

Shaming MYB into paying
"Boy did he get the wrong number"

[HedgeHog]

If MyBookie did adjust the settings and thereby mistakenly change the slot into +206 (or whatever) then MyBookie will fall back on this term - which allows them to make a mistake and not be taken advantage of (similar to posting a "bad line"):

"We reserve the right to deduct from your account any payouts, bonuses, or winnings due to activities which include:

7. Unfair advantage, which is defined as the abuse of a fault, loophole, or error in our software."

Most books have self serving rules like that which might not be fair to enforce. Take for example the "Pro rule", whereby a book states it can confiscate your winnings if they deem your action non-recreational. Is this ok to do just because it's in their T & C's? To me it's outright theft to void any legit action. But I suspect you're correct and MB will not pay any of these guys another cent, likely using the rule you mentioned to justify their questionable actions.

Side note: I don't think the "bad line" rule applies. The casino players' advantage has been estimated at +106 (not +206) on an even money event. No respectable Book would void a bet that is off by that small amount.

[ace7550]

Most books have self serving rules like that which might not be fair to enforce. Take for example the "Pro rule", whereby a book states it can confiscate your winnings if they deem your action non-recreational. Is this ok to do just because it's in their T & C's? To me it's outright theft to void any legit action. But I suspect you're correct and MB will not pay any of these guys another cent, likely using the rule you mentioned to justify their questionable actions.

Side note: I don't think the "bad line" rule applies. The casino players' advantage has been estimated at +106 (not +206) on an even money event. No respectable Book would void a bet that is off by that small amount.

Been watching this thread and I'm in agreement with you. All evidence considered MB should probably pay everyone. But I highly doubt they will. If they paid all these people that took advantage of the slot I think it would be in the neighborhood of $1,000,000. And what does that do for them? Save a reputation that's already shitty? If this were bookmaker I think OP and the others would have a much better shot at getting paid.

[PD77]

Shaming MYB into paying
"Boy did he get the wrong number"

no question that was not happening but there have been cases where the casino software provider stepped in and paid the players and blacklisted the sportsbook/casino. I seriously doubt Betsoft has that type of integrity , they’ll probably continue to let mybookie = SCAM, continue to use their software while Mybookie throws them under the bus. Just think if you win one of Betsoft many linked progressive jackpots, Betsoft pays Mybookie and expects Mybookie to pay the player, yeah right. Betsoft is as scummy as Mybookie, they just hide behind the curtain.

[milwaukee mike]

Spencer - if you wish to be truly transparent then list the exact steps taken to make the two "Take the" slots to your advantage. List them plainly and clearly. Take some time and give us the steps in numbered points - step by step. We know there were certain steps you and the others took because Optional tells us so:

"The problem is that there is no need to accept a loss, as the game setting allowed players to keep resetting to start the feature again multiple times. It no longer works that way."

Rickron: "This feature that allows players to adjust their bet amount was integrated into the gameplay from the very beginning of its release date in 2019"


Just take us through the exact steps in a calm and orderly way so all here can see the steps you and the others took to gain your advantage.

We also know that you have given the exact steps to Optional - because Optional has told us in one of his posts that after several weeks he was finally able to understand exactly what you and the others did to gain your advantage. You have told Optional - now tell all of us here.

he already did that... everything is on a 10-spin cycle

if you have 2 or less bombs after 2-3 spins, then change the bet size and reset the cycle, before playing another 7-8 times at a serious disadvantage... if you have 4 bombs or more then it's a no-brainer to keep going. so on the cycles that you have an advantage, play 10 spins, on the ones with a disadvantage only play 2-3 spins.

the real question is if other books fixed this situation by NOT resetting the cycle with a change in bet size... that may have been answered but i didn't see it... that would seem to be the reason people were playing at mybookie rather than elsewhere. if you were going to build up 300k on a slot hoping to be paid it would only make sense to do it at bookmaker/betonline rather than mybookie

[mem5757]

just spent the last 2 hours reading this thread from the beginning. i hope that spencerho gets paid and raider1223 doesn't. i really hate liars.

[RAIDER1223]

just spent the last 2 hours reading this thread from the beginning. i hope that spencerho gets paid and raider1223 doesn't. i really hate liars.

There haven't been any lies. Not sure why you state that. There have been no lies. Baseless claim you've made.

You're not me. It's not your account. It's not your money. You've had no communication with MYB Management, Auditors, Gaming Licensing Authorities. You have no documentation as evidence to support the opposite. You have no basis or evidence to even suggest that I have lied about anything. You and some of the others just don't like the answers or reasons given for the situation. It's too incomprehensible to believe that this could happen legitimately. Too far fetched. Too unrealistic. Must be a liar and made up. I must have known about a glitch. Knew exactly what it was. Exposed it. Laughed all day long knowing it. Knew how to beat RNG technology. Knew how to bypass encryption technology. Knew how to get around multi-factor authentication. Knew exactly when the game would pay. How many spins it took at a certain bet amount for it to pay. When to pull out. When to do whatever. I'm that smart. I can beat any online casino at will. Anywhere. At any time. On any game. I'm rich from it. I work for the FBI, CIA, the KGB. I can hack into an online casino or slot game and break it. I can create my own balance and have funds sent to me via cryptocurrency to and from anywhere.

Is that what you want to hear? Does this no longer make me a liar?

I'm a prick because I won over $210,000 on 7-10 slot games and some people of this board just can't handle it and get all pissed-off and then automatically call me liar, cheat, crook, a prick, a shot, delusional, or something else because statistics and variances, EV-/+, and standard deviations, trigonometry, calculus, the Period Table of Elements, or the circumference of PII doesn't support any logic of the result of making over $200,000 at an online casino?


Unreal. Just trolls. Trolling to sound-off, bash, and cry about people winning money that was stolen from us and us for wanting it back; as we all deserve.


All speculation without any evidence to support your position. All it is. Speculation. No evidence. None. Just trolling.

Spenceho was much more knowledgeable about the ins and outs of the game and the technical components of the situation. As such, he was able to articulate the details of those since he was very aware of all the technical pieces of the game. Because I was not aware of all of the technical aspects that he has laid out in comparison to the pre and post software of the slot game (Take The Bank), this makes me a liar? No it doesn't.

Thanks for your feedback nonetheless. Obviously, you and others are entitled to your opinion. I respect that but don't agree whatsoever.

However, and most importantly, the bashing needs to stop. No more. That is also for the others on this forum whom can't seem to stop the relentless bashing.

Spencerho, Rickron, Optional, and myself are all working together towards a positive resolution. The three of us all deserve to be paid since MYB.....with potentially BetSoft's indirect assistance...has led to our money being ripped from us and our accounts disabled through zero fault of our own.

Each one can attest.

This is not a popularity contest or whom likes whom on this board. It's irrelevant. It's about money, fairness, legality, and ethics.

Stick and stones doesn't aid or deter the objective here, which is to get our money back and to warn others of MYB so no one else gets hurt or ripped-off.

[Mugsy777]

You are a shot taker and My Bookie is a very crooked book , both a facts

[Ewan101]

Another novelette post from the OP that no-one is actually going to read

He mentions his "go to" 7-10 slot defense but he forgot he already admitted it was only the "Take The" slots from which he profited:

"But in the end, a select amount of Players (and there could be more, we don't know) ended-up having a large balance win from that slot and maybe the other Take "slot". "

That is one example of the OP's deceit and duplicity recent posters have referred to above.

[RAIDER1223]

Another novelette post from the OP that no-one is actually going to read

Here we go......again.

[RAIDER1223]

You are a shot taker and My Bookie is a very crooked book , both a facts

Here we go......again.

[RAIDER1223]

Another novelette post from the OP that no-one is actually going to read

He mentions his "go to" 7-10 slot defense but he forgot he already admitted it was only the "Take The" slots from which he profited:

"But in the end, a select amount of Players (and there could be more, we don't know) ended-up having a large balance win from that slot and maybe the other Take "slot". "

That is one example of the OP's deceit and duplicity recent posters have referred to above.

Wrong. Never mentioned that Take the Bank was the only slot profited from. I've stated several times throughout the post that I won and lost on other slots as well. 7-10 of them. I've been very consistent in that message throughout. Everyone seems to only be focused on Take The Bank only. Even Spencerho has stated that he won and lost on other games, like Book of Darkness, Reels of Wealth, and Olympus.

You need to be consistent and state the whole message, not just a piece of it. You are contributing to the false narrative.

This is exactly why things are being distorted from what I have actually stated throughout.

[SportsBettor74]

OP - please re-issue your updated "unintelligent bum" / moron list.

Please remember to add anyone to the list who in any way opposes your views.

Please remember to remove from the list and promote to "Sir" anyone who has in any way agreed with any of your posts.

Please PM all people on your list and remember to call them a**holes and other names in your PM.

Thanks.

[RAIDER1223]

OP - please re-issue your updated "unintelligent bum" / moron list.

Please remember to add anyone to the list who in any way opposes your views.

Please remember to remove from the list and promote to "Sir" anyone who has in any way agreed with any of your posts.

Please PM all people on your list and remember to call them a**holes and other names in your PM.

Thanks.

SB74. OK, will do. Thanks.

[HedgeHog]

just spent the last 2 hours reading this thread from the beginning. i hope that spencerho gets paid and raider1223 doesn't. i really hate liars.

I get your frustration with the painfully slow revelation of details in this thread. Had Spencer started this thread, I think that there would be much more sympathy for those with outstanding casino balances. However, if Spencer's case is similar to that of the OP, how can you recommend one getting paid and not the other?