Bodog is a joke!!!

[S.K.M.]

Ok long story short here ive been noticing that Bodog doesn't offer the same lines to all players. For example today I know some people got the Celtics at +1.5 from Bodog. I was never offered this line from them. I placed my wager right before tipoff and on my account it never went to 1.5 it closed at 1. Also the Knicks/T-wolves total was 211 on sbrodds but it stayed at 210 in my account. So i asked them about it this is what they said:

We assure you that all our players get the same lines blah blah blah. But then they admitted to me that the Boston line moved to 1.5. So then they said perhaps you are connecting to a stale server. I asked them to check my account to see if i was getting stale lines. They came back again and said its impossible to get stale lines when placing a wager because our system automatically updates the lines when wagers are placed.

Bottom line is this. Unless some fellow forum members are lying AND sbrodds is wrong then Bodog does not offer the same lines to all their players. I don't know why or how but I am not getting the same lines as other players. I wouldn't be mad about it except for the fact they are lying to me about it.....

[michael777]

almost every book deals dual lines

[bigboyfosho]

really.... dam sickk

[Flight]

Yes the closing line was 1.5 at Bodog. I played Celtics at +2 (-120) as this was a great line.

SKM I really don't see why they would do that to you. The lines on Bodog always match sbrodds.com. I don't think they are lying, something is wrong with the http. You may want to clear cookies and delete all browser cache. Better yet, use multiple browsers. I use 2 browsers, one that keeps cookies and cache, and one that is always incognito and never stores cookies. This way the incognito browser never has login issues or "cached" pages. My guess is that your browser was caching a very old page, and even when you hit refresh it gave you the old page if you were in "work offline" mode.

However, you did say you submitted a bet at +1. That is just weird because the Bodog servers just wouldn't allow it. Don't be paranoid, something else is going on.

[Flight]

almost every book deals dual lines

Claims like this are just silly.

[Vesuvius]

SBR Odds IS NOT always right. Second, the line probably jumped to +1.5 for a few seconds and got HAMMERED and then went back down. Lines move all the time and the server DOES update once a wager is about to be placed.

I'm sorry but I'm with Bodog here.

[1UP]

I don't get it man. Lines can move at any second. There's some bets I won today that I should have brought home a few bucks more. But I contemplated on the line so long (maybe 5 minutes?), the odds dropped by the time I tried submitting my bet.

[Flight]

I agree Vesuvius, I have seen sbrodds lag up to 5 minutes. Although I did use it to spot this +1.5 today and immediately hit it. My bodog bet history has a timestamp of 3:30 PM. What is your wager's time stamp, SKM?

[whatsgood5]

Yeah, stay away from bodog

[whatsgood5]

really.... dam sickk

This is not only false, but it is also not true.

[Flight]

This is not only false, but it is also not true.

[S.K.M.]

SBR Odds IS NOT always right. Second, the line probably jumped to +1.5 for a few seconds and got HAMMERED and then went back down. Lines move all the time and the server DOES update once a wager is about to be placed.

I'm sorry but I'm with Bodog here.

This was my first thought but it is very unlikely as I am constantly watching the lines page and also the same thing happened in the NYK/Minnesota game. Do you think that there is so much action coming on the total in a Knicks/T-wolves game that i will miss it? Add to that what are the chances that sbrodds just happens to be incorrect on both of the games in question that i was watching like a hawk and constantly refreshing my page? I guess I need to look into the cookies thing? Also sbrodds doesn't show that they changed and then changed back. So I guess it comes down to how much do you really believe in coinsidences? Because this is a really big one.

[Peep]

Geezs, stop being a whiney bitch.

It is a books job to offer a number. It is your job to bet it or not. They can, and should be able to offer any number they want. As long as they honor it, no problem in my opinion.

And... here is the bad news... it will get worst.

Wait till you start getting the 30 second delays where they won't even honor the number they offered when you made your bet. That is even less fun!

[S.K.M.]

I agree Vesuvius, I have seen sbrodds lag up to 5 minutes. Although I did use it to spot this +1.5 today and immediately hit it. My bodog bet history has a timestamp of 3:30 PM. What is your wager's time stamp, SKM?

12:31 pm pacific time.

[michael777]

Claims like this are just silly.

you have a very lot to learn son

[goblue12]

Consider it a complement.

[S.K.M.]

Geezs, stop being a whiney bitch.

It is a books job to offer a number. It is your job to bet it or not. They can, and should be able to offer any number they want. As long as they honor it, no problem in my opinion.

And... here is the bad news... it will get worst.

Wait till you start getting the 30 second delays where they won't even honor the number they offered when you made your bet. That is even less fun!

First, fukk you dont come in here calling me names. Im trying to give other players a heads up and see if anyone else has noticed this.

Second, im not whining. I accepted the bet at +1 and i was happy with that. I got a push. Whatever. The thing that pisses me off is that im not being offered the same lines as other players. If i missed the line because I was too late or too early then that is my fault. I dont believe this is the case here however. The only reason I play at Bodog is to get their inflated underdogs and under lines.

Third, when you say it will get worse, are you saying that you have had experience with Bodog not honoring winning wagers?

[S.K.M.]

This is from sbrodds for the LA/Boston game

POINTSPREADS
01/31 07:43 PK -110 / PK -110
01/31 08:33 -1 -105 / +1 -115
01/31 09:21 -1 -110 / +1 -110
01/31 09:40 -1½ -105 / +1½ -115
01/31 11:02 -1½ -110 / +1½ -110

I would say that it didn't just jump up to 1.5 real quick and then get hammered back down. Apparently it was at 1.5 for almost 3 hours.

Here is the info on NYK/Minnesota

TOTALS - OVER/UNDER
01/31 07:43 210 -115 / 210 -105
01/31 16:03 211 -105 / 211 -115

This one changed a lot closer to game time but still I couldn't get this number. I even clicked the 'single bet' button to go to the screen where it updates the line and it still gave me 210.

[tomcowley]

Nobody has ever posted on this forum before that bodog deals dual lines. Also, some CSRs are retards and some are liars.

[blix177]

My friend and I have our account open next to each other, and bodog DO DEAL DUEL LINES. Shit if they still used the old lines on me, I would rape them till they collar me at a dollar.

[S.K.M.]

almost every book deals dual lines

If you are correct then what determines who gets what lines? Do they categorize players and then you only get what lines they want? I always use Bodog for the inflated sides and totals because I play a lot of underdogs and unders. So if they categorize me as an underdog player they can easily deal me normal lines and not the typical inflated Bodog lines?

[JohnAnthony]

A Bodog rep. on here once explained that Bodog is actually 3 companies that "have no affiliation" with each other. And yes, lines are different in each one of these. Sucks.

But this doesn't add up with what Blix is saying.

[Peep]

Sorry if you felt I was calling you names OP.

I was commenting on your behavior, which was whiney. What you are complaining about is like complaining about the wind and the rain, and that water is wet and rocks are hard.

Rules of the game are that the book can offer any player any number they want on any game. If you don't like that, find a new hobby.

[S.K.M.]

My friend and I have our account open next to each other, and bodog DO DEAL DUEL LINES. Shit if they still used the old lines on me, I would rape them till they collar me at a dollar.

Thank you for confirming what i suspected. This is what I was looking for. Did you and your friend do anything about it? I dont see how there is anything that you can do?

As for Bodog being 3 companies I think that only applies to different countries....

[THEGREAT30]

Lines move consistently. I don't really understand, I don't doubt you though.

[S.K.M.]

Lines move consistently. I don't really understand, I don't doubt you though.

If you read the posts above you'll see that we are talking about dual lines here. Not a simple line movement. Look at the at the line history I posted above.....

[sharpcat]

sounds like I need to get some funds in bodog. am I the only one who see's this as a good thing? assuming you have other books this really helps the player a lot.

[oiler]

Ok long story short here ive been noticing that Bodog doesn't offer the same lines to all players. For example today I know some people got the Celtics at +1.5 from Bodog. I was never offered this line from them. I placed my wager right before tipoff and on my account it never went to 1.5 it closed at 1. Also the Knicks/T-wolves total was 211 on sbrodds but it stayed at 210 in my account. So i asked them about it this is what they said:

We assure you that all our players get the same lines blah blah blah. But then they admitted to me that the Boston line moved to 1.5. So then they said perhaps you are connecting to a stale server. I asked them to check my account to see if i was getting stale lines. They came back again and said its impossible to get stale lines when placing a wager because our system automatically updates the lines when wagers are placed.

Bottom line is this. Unless some fellow forum members are lying AND sbrodds is wrong then Bodog does not offer the same lines to all their players. I don't know why or how but I am not getting the same lines as other players. I wouldn't be mad about it except for the fact they are lying to me about it.....

ive been dealing with them for years and have never had a problem with them think someone is giving u shit about them

[THEGREAT30]

If you read the posts above you'll see that we are talking about dual lines here. Not a simple line movement. Look at the at the line history I posted above.....

Yes, I read but still don't quite get it. So, are you saying that you can prove that someone got a different line than you at the exact same time? How can you prove this?

[S.K.M.]

Yes, I read but still don't quite get it. So, are you saying that you can prove that someone got a different line than you at the exact same time? How can you prove this?

Can I absolutely prove that someone got it at the exact same time? No. I do not have access to other players accounts. But tell me if you believe in really big coincidences:

1. Twice on this forum I have had the same play as a fellow sbr member within one minute of each other. The lines were different. Sbr odds line history showed that the line never changed.

2. Sbrodds line history just happened to have info that was not even close to being accurate on both of the games in question today.

3. The poster above who said him and his friend had their accounts opened right next to each other at the same time and had different lines.

4. I play a lot of underdogs and unders which as bodog players know is an advantage. Bodog has inflated lines for favorites and overs. I have been winning a fair amount lately. Both of the lines in question today went against an underdog player.

5. Bodog admitted to me that the Boston/LA line changed in an email: "The lines we had posted on the website for the Lakers did move before the start of the game." My line never moved. It closed at 1.

I can go on and on. I have already wasted too much time on this thread though. Bottom line is the books can do whatever they want which is fine I already knew that. If I am gonna get these adjusted lines that take away my underdog advantage then why would I play with Bodog? Doesn't make sense. There are better books out there. Just giving everyone a heads up

[Peep]

I can go on and on. I have already wasted too much time on this thread though. Bottom line is the books can do whatever they want which is fine I already knew that. If I am gonna get these adjusted lines that take away my underdog advantage then why would I play with Bodog? Doesn't make sense. There are better books out there. Just giving everyone a heads up

Good post.

Bodog does suck, at many levels for many reasons, this is just one of them.

Many better books out there for sure. And most of them do not deal dual lines like Bodog does.

[S.K.M.]

sounds like I need to get some funds in bodog. am I the only one who see's this as a good thing? assuming you have other books this really helps the player a lot.

Yes you are exactly right. I have been telling people how great Bodog is because you can get better lines for underdogs. Apparently though, once they classify you as this type of player they will give you different lines that are the same as every other book. And then they will swear to you that all their players get the same lines

[sharpcat]

Yes you are exactly right. I have been telling people how great Bodog is because you can get better lines for underdogs. Apparently though, once they classify you as this type of player they will give you different lines that are the same as every other book. And then they will swear to you that all their players get the same lines

I bet dogs and favs and have not been with them for years ever since the calvin ayre era, but it is a good book to have on the side for line shopping, other than that they suck cuz they put lines up late and don't even take action on some games.

[S.K.M.]

I bet dogs and favs and have not been with them for years ever since the calvin ayre era, but it is a good book to have on the side for line shopping, other than that they suck cuz they put lines up late and don't even take action on some games.

Yeah and they don't even have totals on college basketball sometimes.

[andywend]

SKM, Bodog does indeed deal different lines to different players based on the pattern of the specific bettor.

If you mainly bet on the underdogs and unders, then the lines they offer you will be negatively adjusted on dogs and unders.

If you scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page when you bring up the lines, you will see a code which has something to do with this.

My code at bodog is www-25. I would guess your code is probably different.