Problems with the greek

Justin7 · 01-11-10, 11:17 AM

7 days is not unreasonable.

Sportsbooks don't want guys that jump in and jump out - it costs them money and resources each time someone deposits or withdraws. If you only want to play a few days and get your money, you might be better off using a local.

TomG · 01-11-10, 11:25 AM

Make Wally regret his decision and turn that $1,100 into $4,033.33 over the next 6 days

richsox24 · 01-11-10, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

7 days is not unreasonable.

Sportsbooks don't want guys that jump in and jump out - it costs them money and resources each time someone deposits or withdraws. If you only want to play a few days and get your money, you might be better off using a local.

I understand what you are saying Justin but if i choose not to receive a bonus and i dont use a credit card, shouldnt i be allowed to withdraw the money whenever i want to. I was told that this "hold period" is only the new accts. What is the difference if my acct is new or old if i deposit via Western union, take no bonus, and send my id to them as instructed?

Coming Back! · 01-11-10, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

7 days is not unreasonable.

Sportsbooks don't want guys that jump in and jump out - it costs them money and resources each time someone deposits or withdraws. If you only want to play a few days and get your money, you might be better off using a local.

I completely disagree Justin. If you send propper ID and there are no rollover restrictions then the player should get paid. If he would of lost, he would of paid. He's taking the risk putting his money up first. He should of gotten paid when he won. Come on Justin! And I personally thing thegreek is one of the best 2 or 3 books, but this news is discouraging if accurate.

richsox24 · 01-11-10, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Coming Back!

I completely disagree Justin. If you send propper ID and there are no rollover restrictions then the player should get paid. If he would of lost, he would of paid. He's taking the risk putting his money up first. He should of gotten paid when he won. Come on Justin! And I personally thing thegreek is one of the best 2 or 3 books, but this news is discouraging if accurate.

Everything is exactly as i described. Also, I might be mistaken but isnt the greek owned by the same people as betjamaica? I have had an acct with betjam for years.

tullamore · 01-11-10, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by richsox24

Everything is exactly as i described. Also, I might be mistaken but isnt the greek owned by the same people as betjamaica? I have had an acct with betjam for years.

I had a small issue with the greek this summer when requesting a payout. They needed my id, which was no problem, the only issue is my address on my account differs from my id, same town, only thing different is the street address. I also get all my bills mailed to a PO box, so I couldn't mail in a utility bill. I told them I was also had an account at the betjm, and I received payouts from them in the past. I asked them to check with betjm about my id.]

Not sure if they did or if they just figured the id was close enough, but when they called back they said they were processing the payment.

The betjm and the greek are related but I think the issue is that you need the account to be 7 days old. Once that happens you should have no problem receiving a payment in the future.

cap10 · 01-11-10, 01:03 PM

its time to boycott these 2 books until they waive these id requirements;; bothers the hades out of me that my dl is floating around in jamaica

soxwin1917 · 01-11-10, 01:07 PM

If you have a problem sending your ID to an offshore book, don't bother playing at one cap10.

richsox24 · 01-11-10, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by tullamore

I had a small issue with the greek this summer when requesting a payout. They needed my id, which was no problem, the only issue is my address on my account differs from my id, same town, only thing different is the street address. I also get all my bills mailed to a PO box, so I couldn't mail in a utility bill. I told them I was also had an account at the betjm, and I received payouts from them in the past. I asked them to check with betjm about my id.]

Not sure if they did or if they just figured the id was close enough, but when they called back they said they were processing the payment.

The betjm and the greek are related but I think the issue is that you need the account to be 7 days old. Once that happens you should have no problem receiving a payment in the future.

Thanks for the imput...i am not worried about getting paid as i know they are an A+ book. I am more worried about losing the money back as i have very little control when gambling. I am sure that is what the greek is hoping for. I just think its ridiculous that they even have a hold period for western union deposits with no bonuses. I should be able to withdraw that money whenever i want.

tullamore · 01-11-10, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by richsox24

Thanks for the imput...i am not worried about getting paid as i know they are an A+ book. I am more worried about losing the money back as i have very little control when gambling. I am sure that is what the greek is hoping for. I just think its ridiculous that they even have a hold period for western union deposits with no bonuses. I should be able to withdraw that money whenever i want.

If you think you are going to lose the money, block the greeks website for a week.

cap10 · 01-11-10, 01:30 PM

sox;; i trust bjam;; its just that with id theft as bad as it is it takes only one bad employee to sell a few ids;; if u dont think this is a prob u are naive;; ive been with more secure books in europe for yrs and they never ask for this

richsox24 · 01-11-10, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by cap10

sox;; i trust bjam;; its just that with id theft as bad as it is it takes only one bad employee to sell a few ids;; if u dont think this is a prob u are naive;; ive been with more secure books in europe for yrs and they never ask for this

I do not like the idea of sending my id to them but when they tell you that the only way i can request a payout is if i send my id to them, what choice do i have?

harryhood · 01-11-10, 03:32 PM

Justin that is a ridiculous answer...he sent his $$$ he won and he requested a payout...if it doesnt state a 7 day hold he should be paid now...your answer as a mod should be on the right side not the advertiser or paid banner side...take your head out of your ass...

richsox24 · 01-11-10, 03:43 PM

Like i said before, if a player receives a bonus, i understand about rollover requirements. If a player deposits via credit card, e check, etc i understand about "hold" periods. However in this case, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever that the greek should be holding my money except for the fact that they hope i lose it back which is absolutely wrong and ridiculous. Also, if they needed any other verification of my identity, credibility, etc, they could check with betjam as i have played there for years and made numerous deposits and a few cashouts.

I would have hoped to get help from SBR but i guess thats not the case.

jaysarizona · 01-11-10, 05:29 PM

should have got it by now..

richsox24 · 01-11-10, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by jaysarizona

should have got it by now..

I agree...its very discouraging that everyone on here agrees that i should be paid except Justin the moderater...I know the greek pays SBR for advertising, etc but this seems pretty ridiculous to me.

BurtRapp · 01-11-10, 06:27 PM

You should be able to get a payout the next day. Greek is getting bad with customer service. tell them you want the bonus now if your going to wait anyway.

richsox24 · 01-11-10, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by BurtRapp

You should be able to get a payout the next day. Greek is getting bad with customer service. tell them you want the bonus now if your going to wait anyway.

I did call them and ask for the bonus after they refused my payout, and after the first person told me it was too late, i got transferred to some jerk named Wally. He was a total prick but he did add the bonus, all the while making it sound like he was doing some huge favor by adding the couple dollars to my acct. The best part about the greek is that their motto is "Sweat the game, not the payout". It should be "Win your wagers, sweat the payout". Lol

richsox24 · 01-12-10, 11:34 AM

Justin...i would like to know why you feel that the greek should be allowed to hold player funds with no bonuses, restrictions, credit card deposits or anything. Are they just hoping that i lose the money back?

pokerplayer22 · 01-13-10, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by TomG

Make Wally regret his decision and turn that $1,100 into $4,033.33 over the next 6 days

I remember talking to this Wally a while back. He seemed like as big of a jerk as that Tony from 5dimes. I guess the most important thing in a book is prompt payouts (which the greek does usually offer), not customer friendly managers.

However, if this poster is trying to get Justins help with a payout, he would have better luck selling ice to an eskimo. Justin, I'm just curious, i know you have sided with the book with regards to my dispute many months ago along with just about every other dispute, but how can you possibly defend this book in this case if that the poster is saying is true about depositing with western union and not receiving any bonus?....Par for the course Justin, par for the course.

andywend · 01-13-10, 01:24 AM

The vast majority of sportsbooks have a holding period when it comes to new accounts withdrawing money.

Greek is doing nothing wrong here and the OP can be 100% assured that he will be paid.

As Justin accurately said, if you object to the 7 day waiting period, then use a local.

BTW, there is no comparison between Wally of Greek and Tony of 5 Dimes.

The Greek accepts all bettors including sharps and won't limit them the way 5 Dimes does. Also, Tony's nasty attitude when it comes to customer service is well known and documented.

While 5 Dimes does have more options, the Greek is a FAR BETTER BOOK for the sophisticated bettor, HANDS DOWN!!!

Patrick McIrish · 01-13-10, 02:02 AM

Rich, no offense but Spiro isn't worried about you winning 8 bucks off him. Andy has it right, the fact it's a brand new account books will sometimes review everything before sending you the money. Maybe it's not a review, maybe it just takes that long to run a new player account through the book administratively. Either way a 7 day wait on a brand new account is nothing to get excited about. Make sure you don't play until you get your money, sounds like you'll really be kicking yourself if you lose it. Good luck.

investor · 01-13-10, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by harryhood

Justin that is a ridiculous answer...he sent his $$$ he won and he requested a payout...if it doesnt state a 7 day hold he should be paid now...your answer as a mod should be on the right side not the advertiser or paid banner side...take your head out of your ass...

harryhood · 01-13-10, 03:54 AM

[quote=Patrick McIrish;2937096]Rich, no offense but Spiro isn't worried about you winning 8 bucks off him. Andy has it right, the fact it's a brand new account books will sometimes review everything before sending you the money. Maybe it's not a review, maybe it just takes that long to run a new player account through the book administratively. Either way a 7 day wait on a brand new account is nothing to get excited about. Make sure you don't play until you get your money, sounds like you'll really be kicking yourself if you lose it.

what is this homeland security...he played for 300 and won they should pay him promptly..we know spiro isnt a stiff..as for you mcirich we know different...

MBENZ · 01-13-10, 04:43 AM

Interesting thread,maybe somebody can answer this question.Why is it with some of these books if you deposit with cash and take a bonus or -105 that they put a 2 week hold on even when you complete their rollover requirement before that.Seems to me once you've completed the terms of your agreement,that money is freed up.What is the hold for on cash?

CollegePro · 01-13-10, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by harryhood

Justin that is a ridiculous answer...he sent his $$$ he won and he requested a payout...if it doesnt state a 7 day hold he should be paid now...your answer as a mod should be on the right side not the advertiser or paid banner side...take your head out of your ass...

"All new accounts must wait at least seven (7) business days after the first deposit before making a withdrawal." this has been there forever under their withdrawal policy... so I don't know what the problem is.... actually, the problem is creator of this thread should have read the policies before signing up.

raddle_snake · 01-13-10, 06:54 AM

Yes I agree to that before depositing must check first the policies sing up and make deposit

capitalist pig · 01-13-10, 07:52 AM

Its been a 7 day wait for awhile now.

later

BurtRapp · 01-13-10, 01:36 PM

Justin I couldn't disagree with you more!!! If I send a Western Union Cash or MoneyGram cash it is CASH the book receives it as cash. No funny business no bounced checks no deception. If I meet a rollover or dont take a bonus so that I can make a payout whenever I want. It is not my job or any posters job to give a flying fuk what the books cost is on this. It is hard enough to pick winners. The books are doing fine I'm not worried about their cost! If I win and meet rollover PAY ME. Not only that pay me same day or next day. Simple as that. I'm sick of people trying to coddle these books and be so sympathetic. When you take my deposit it's instant - when I win JUST PAY ME!!