WagerWeb warning for forum players

[robmpink]

He first lost 5k playing parlays, then won 9k, for a net +4k. They took the 9k. Thieves, should be D-.

Ok, I misunderstood. TY

[trixtrix]

word straight out of dan from wagerweb's mouth: "everyone on sbrforums are a bunch of motherf-ing scumbags and thieves. justin and bill are pedophiles"

this must be what is meant to be a diplomatic solution..

[Emily_Haines]

These crooks will never see a dime of my money. If they were the only book left, I would quit gambling.

[acarmelo1]

I hope they rot in hell

[Chuck Sims]

Wagerweb are thieves. A criminal enterprise. Stay away.

[Bill Dozer]

They have overturned poor decisions in the past after public discussion but it's starting to look like they no longer are caring about reputatioin. Not a good sign, especially for a book that doesn't invest in marketing.

[robmpink]

Personally, I will still play some sports and horses there. With or without this situation happening my play there has decreased a bit because of other factors, large reload rollovers (since I'm on the plus side for a couple of months) and the removal of the dgs casino, which I played in the most.

I look at in a couple of ways. If i am playing horses and making straight bets, I'm not doing anything that could be questioned. I'm not playing steam. I'm only betting pick 4's.

They have always been fair with me. Call me a loyalist, dummy, fool, c unt, whatever that is what I'm going to do. If I get screwed, which I don't think i will, I won't come crying here.

I have never urged people to play at any book. We are grown men and could make our own decisions. It is unfortunate to hear stories like this.

It appears ww doesn't really fancy sbr for whatever reasons, warranted or unwarranted. Maybe ww has a better relationship with another forum or whatever and you could get further. Maybe not. Just a suggestion. Remember, SBR isn't the say all, be all in these situtions.

[Docta Ignoranti]

I remember too. There was a complaint short on facts from a third party where you hoped SBR would question the sportsbook vs. collecting the relevant info from an accessible player.

I remember this well and have to say Mudcat lacks any creditability for his "Wagerweb" input.

However, In saying that, I think "Dan" needs to take his head out of his ass. Running a good shop has nothing to do with marketing Mr. Dozer it has everything to do with fair bookmaking and knowing what you're doing. Neither of which Wagerweb has the ability to do.

Take "wagerwebsucks" as an example. How many post plays did he get in before they figured it out...come on. No question the player was in the wrong, but it points out a serious lack of management. Mudcat needn't create fictitious friends for players to figure out that something is broken at Wagerweb.

Players with any ability should move on to greener pastures before Wagerweb is downgraded to a F. Same day payouts aside, Wagerweb is for losers only.

[stevek173]

Horrid!

My sympathies to the player who got taken by these thieves

[blueghost]

hard enough to make money at an honest book....never mind a group that just wants to see your deposits

[robmpink]

Serious question here. Is SBR saying that Joe Blow makes a 1k deposit there, without a bonus. Joe Blow only plays straight bets. After 5 months, Joe Blow wants to make a withdrawl. Joe Blow will have a problem making a withdrawl.

Combine all of the wagerweb disputes, positive feedback, negative feedback, whatever. Is this SBRs take on the matter?

[Justin7]

Serious question here. Is SBR saying that Joe Blow makes a 1k deposit there, without a bonus. Joe Blow only plays straight bets. After 5 months, Joe Blow wants to make a withdrawl. Joe Blow will have a problem making a withdrawl.

Combine all of the wagerweb disputes, positive feedback, negative feedback, whatever. Is this SBRs take on the matter?

SBR's position is that Wager Web robbed the player. It fabricated figures to support its already weak argument.

Sure, maybe Wager Web will pay a square player that should lose. Then again, maybe not.

[Thremp]

I think "maybe get paid" is SBR official stance on virtually every D book... kinda an ezpz sort of rating system.

[trixtrix]

Serious question here. Is SBR saying that Joe Blow makes a 1k deposit there, without a bonus. Joe Blow only plays straight bets. After 5 months, Joe Blow wants to make a withdrawl. Joe Blow will have a problem making a withdrawl.

Combine all of the wagerweb disputes, positive feedback, negative feedback, whatever. Is this SBRs take on the matter?

if joe blow wins 5 figures, my personal position is that joe blow will have difficulty getting paid by wagerweb.

[Chuck Sims]

We as players need to boycott thieving sportsbooks like Wagerweb. They steal money from players, even going back in time to erase winning bets.

[Doug]

They used to accept a lot of correlated parlays.

Wagerweb used to be Casablanca sports ( CBS)

They stole that eye symbol from CBS ( the broadcasting network), got heat, changed name....went to SHIT, about then.

[Doug]

We as players need to boycott thieving sportsbooks like Wagerweb. They steal money from players, even going back in time to erase winning bets.

Chuck, there are less than ten decent books for Gringos.

[acw]

I always base decision on facts and law. Sometimes players don't like that. When players have no basis for a complaint and try to use the forums to press an invalid complaint, I try to fairly explain the book's position.

And if a book cheats, I'll call them out in an instant - although in this case, I had to confirm facts and try to get WagerWeb to act more responsible for lambasting them. In any dispute, my first concern is to get a player paid if he is owed, and that delays the resolution of many.

What you completely fail to acknowledge is that if the book is already in the wrong THEY should already be punished for that just to make sure they will do everything possible to avoid a repeat. During most of the WagerWeb disputes (in your point of view) both parties were in the wrong and you tried to solve the problem, but completely failed to work on avoiding future issues with 99% of all other (honest) gamblers.
So it is YOUR FAULT now that this particular player got into trouble.

[Chuck Sims]

Chuck, there are less than ten decent books for Gringos.

I concur

[Justin7]

What you completely fail to acknowledge is that if the book is already in the wrong THEY should already be punished for that just to make sure they will do everything possible to avoid a repeat. During most of the WagerWeb disputes (in your point of view) both parties were in the wrong and you tried to solve the problem, but completely failed to work on avoiding future issues with 99% of all other (honest) gamblers.
So it is YOUR FAULT now that this particular player got into trouble.

The facts of every dispute (with our analysis) had already been published before this player deposited. Wager Web had paid CP players in the past. Your argument then is... we should have downgraded them more, and faster?

[Thremp]

Just so everyone knows. This book paid me in the past for asian handicaps/total parlays... in soccer.

[durito]

say that again

[Thremp]

They paid me when I was parlaying +1.5/u2.5

[pjesnik24]

They paid me when I was parlaying +1.5/u2.5

I wish pinnacle and asian bookies would allow that... I would be a rich man in no time!

[durito]

one more time

[Thremp]

.... I bet a bunch of correlated parlays on soccer at WagerWeb a while ago. They paid me.


The point is that they're clearly on a negative slide looking for reasons to steal (trying to steal a cash balance for a lost freeplay?!?!), and now just outright theft. They weren't always loltarded about not paying.

[durito]

Just loltarded about booking

(trying to steal a cash balance for a lost freeplay?!?!)

sounds like betonline

[Thremp]

I have a strong predilection to books that are very very bad at bookmaking, but very strong at paying me. Or atleast adequate in that regard.

[Peeig]

I have a strong predilection to books that are very very bad at bookmaking, but very strong at paying me. Or atleast adequate in that regard.

I like this very much

[andywend]

If there is any chance a customer can get paid, then SBR won't stick a "F" grade on the book and I agree with that philosophy.

As crooked as Wagerweb seems to be, they are NOT the worst book out there because they are currently processing customer withdrawals (at least to some extent).

A "D" grade seems appropriate.

[BrentCrude]

Their software is awful too.No matter how many legs of a parlay I bet,it kept saying the payoff on free play bonus money was $100.Once you are a depositor,they relentlessly hounded e by phone to re up on bigger and bigger bonuses.A few times when they called,no one was on the other end talking to me but I could here everything going on in the background.It was like listening to the movie Boiler room.Lots of laughing and swearing in Jersey accents.

[JoshW]

I think D is appropriate given other books are worse, but this is certainly a book that has been on a long slow trip down. And yes, it can get worse, so be careful.

[trixtrix]

bump so wagerweb shills don't try to scam any more money from players

[whatsgood5]

Yeah, stay away from this shit-book for sure

[robmpink]

I still play. 1 of 2 things will happen. Things will continue to be normal like the last 3 years or I will experience problems somewhere down the road. I will keep you abreast of whatever it is.