Why Accept a Limit?

[BigdaddyQH]

I rarely, if ever, use off shore books to wager. I always go straight to the source, which is Vegas, or TVG if I am playing horses. What I do not understand is this. I have seen many posts about players being limited as to the amounts that they can wager. I am talking about player limits, not game limits. Why would anyone put up with this? If I want to wager 2 or 3K on a game, why would I do business with a book that would not accept that kind of wager?

From what I have read (and again, I have never been limited as to the amount of a wager I can make in Vegas), it appears that if you win, they restrict the amount you can wager. Why do you guys put up with it? Bad enough you have to put up with slow pays, having your name get on numerous government lists, getting screwed out of winning wagers, and hundreds of other problems that these off shore books present, but limiting the amont of money that you can wager would be totally unacceptable for me. Please tell me why you guys accept this practice, of if you do not, what you do about it.

[Dunder]

No limits in Vegas? I call BS.
If you were truly a serious player, you would have overseas residence, anyone who is happy betting cookie cutter -110 lines (no matter what the medium), is not serious.

[BigdaddyQH]

No limits in Vegas? I call BS.
If you were truly a serious player, you would have overseas residence, anyone who is happy betting cookie cutter -110 lines (no matter what the medium), is not serious.

There are no limits in Vegas, if you know who to talk to. Are you really gullable enough to believe that my group is limited to wagering 5K per game? Do you really think that a Vegas books would not encourage "bait and switches" and other such wagers that require more money than 5K to get Joe Pub suckered into the plays? I wager more money in here per year on football than any 10 players do. My group may wager more money on a certain game than this entire forum combined. Vegas books realize that if they do their job correctly, the money wagered, the more money they make. Professional Gamblers also realize that the FEWER wagers you make, the better your chance is of winning. That is why you do not see professional gamblers playing 20 college games a week. They make larger wagers in fewer games. The bigger the number of games you wager, the bigger the chance you have of winning 50%, and in this game, 50% is a loser.

Now getting back to my question, why do you put up with books that limit your wagers, especially when you win? You can not tell me that any Vegas book reduces your wagering limit because you win. That is simply not true. If there is a 5K limit on a game, and you walk into the book with 5K, your wager is accepted, and they don't give a crap who you are. So back to my question. Why do you guys put up with it? It is the fact that you have no other choice? Do you put up with it to begin with?

[Dunder]

I am not American and therefore am not restricted to the offshore books you refer to in your first post. I have nonetheless been limited by numerous books down the years.

I don´t want this to be some sort of pissing contest, but I have also placed a fair few wagers in my time and will tell you outright that no matter how good a handicapper you are, you would achieve a significantly higher return if you had accounts at Matchbook, BetFair, Pinnacle as well as those offshore books that are asleep at the wheel when it comes to moving lines. I would acknowledge that this would best to be in addition to whatever you do in Vegas, but I would repeat that genuinely serious players have residency outside the US.

[Tomato]

There are no limits in Vegas, if you know who to talk to. Are you really gullable enough to believe that my group is limited to wagering 5K per game? Do you really think that a Vegas books would not encourage "bait and switches" and other such wagers that require more money than 5K to get Joe Pub suckered into the plays? I wager more money in here per year on football than any 10 players do. My group may wager more money on a certain game than this entire forum combined. Vegas books realize that if they do their job correctly, the money wagered, the more money they make. Professional Gamblers also realize that the FEWER wagers you make, the better your chance is of winning. That is why you do not see professional gamblers playing 20 college games a week. They make larger wagers in fewer games. The bigger the number of games you wager, the bigger the chance you have of winning 50%, and in this game, 50% is a loser.

Now getting back to my question, why do you put up with books that limit your wagers, especially when you win? You can not tell me that any Vegas book reduces your wagering limit because you win. That is simply not true. If there is a 5K limit on a game, and you walk into the book with 5K, your wager is accepted, and they don't give a crap who you are. So back to my question. Why do you guys put up with it? It is the fact that you have no other choice? Do you put up with it to begin with?

You don't have a "group", and you don't have the slightest clue how "professional gamblers" work.

Share with everyone why you got banned from the RX.

Tomato finds squares who pretend to know what they're talking about hilarious.

[The Bishop]

Professional Gamblers also realize that the FEWER wagers you make, the better your chance is of winning. That is why you do not see professional gamblers playing 20 college games a week. They make larger wagers in fewer games. The bigger the number of games you wager, the bigger the chance you have of winning 50%, and in this game, 50% is a loser.

OMG, this might be the funniest thing I've read in months on this forum.

[betyuda]

I m not sure what the argument is, but a professional bettor makes over a thousand bets per year. I mean just a few bets are you serious??

[mmike032]

you mean to tell my Mr Bigshot BigDaddy who comes in everyones thread and bashes them cause they're not a bigtimer is actually one of us.
wow, never would have guessed someone parading around the forum claiming to be Billy Walter ( or whatever his name is) was a fraud

[eberetta1]

1. Maybe living over 1000 miles from Vegas is why a person would use an overseas account.
Also being online, betting is just as fun, if not funner than driving my butt 70 miles to a local casino, only to win or lose,
and then have to drive your sorry butt 70 miles back.

2. And surely as bright as you are to get around "LIMITS" . I mean we had to open 16 books to play the football contest each week.
So i can bet the max on limits on 16 sportsbooks, before I would even need to think of heading to Vegas. I have added 4 more sportsbooks since the original 16, so I only need to think about Vegas after 20 sportsbooks are maxed out now.

3. Also, I would be nervous to walk out of Vegas with over limits cash in my pocket, I don't mind receiving a check from a sportsbook
that I can deposit into my checking account at my own leisure.

P.S. Keep dreaming, and luckily I don't have to see you, cause I don't need to sit at VIP tables to play the game.

[Shahbucks]

Professional Gamblers also realize that the FEWER wagers you make, the better your chance is of winning. That is why you do not see professional gamblers playing 20 college games a week. They make larger wagers in fewer games. The bigger the number of games you wager, the bigger the chance you have of winning 50%, and in this game, 50% is a loser.

This is bullshit! WTF are you talking about? Do you really mean to tell me theres is a difference in going 50% in the long run? 4 coin flips is better than 20? Maybe you mean pros make FEWER large wagers around 5-10% of a br a week. And I don't know any pros or services that don't have 2-5 plays everyday.