Warning: Livebetting at 188bet

**citlec** · 11-29-09, 01:45 PM

You say Bayern scored 15-20 seconds later which is more than enough time for them to be at the centre circle and then score ie long ball forward or fast counter attack. It could also be they had a throw in Hannover's half which means the danger isnt there but yet score from it.

I place hundreds of in-running bets with all the Asians and they all do the same.

But if you had placed that bet at BetFair or other books who have a 5 second rule then your bet would have been confirmed anyway.

I will say that this has happened to me once in all the bets ive placed and when my ticket has been waiting to be confirmed and there has been a goal my bets have been cancelled whether its been in my favour or not.

I have had the opposite happen 3 times before where they have accepted the bet then about 5-10 seconds later the team ive bet or the overs bet ive placed has scored.

Naturally people will say this is a fraud and i do wish to that they would have a 5 seconds count down then accept your bet no matter the area of play but that wont happen and thats the risk you take.

**Jaug** · 11-29-09, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by citlec

You say Bayern scored 15-20 seconds later which is more than enough time for them to be at the centre circle and then score ie long ball forward or fast counter attack. It could also be they had a throw in Hannover's half which means the danger isnt there but yet score from it.

I place hundreds of in-running bets with all the Asians and they all do the same.

But if you had placed that bet at BetFair or other books who have a 5 second rule then your bet would have been confirmed anyway.

I will say that this has happened to me once in all the bets ive placed and when my ticket has been waiting to be confirmed and there has been a goal my bets have been cancelled whether its been in my favour or not.

I have had the opposite happen 3 times before where they have accepted the bet then about 5-10 seconds later the team ive bet or the overs bet ive placed has scored.

Naturally people will say this is a fraud and i do wish to that they would have a 5 seconds count down then accept your bet no matter the area of play but that wont happen and thats the risk you take.

Well thank you for a great answer. I trust you since you are a fellow bettor. The goal came from nowhere so I guess they might have accepted it before the actual goal.

**JoshW** · 11-30-09, 10:32 AM

I have always wondered about this, since fewer formal breaks in a soccer game. Good topic Jaug, and good to hear a lot of the live betting is honest, citlec.

**Teddy_KGB** · 11-30-09, 12:46 PM

I don't think that 188bet cheated in this case, it was a happenstance, however I've stopped to play at asians, because I hate when I bet on over, and I don't know when will they accept, while at Betfair I know my bet will be accepted in 5-8 seconds.

**citlec** · 11-30-09, 03:17 PM

Yeah that can be a pain Teddy but it can also work in your favour if your betting unders because they could sit on it waiting for the danger to pass and why thats happening the price is getting lower and lower to the point where you could make money if you bet on over or if there is a goal when you have bet unders and your waiting for it to be confirmed then it can save you the money which you would have lost at Betfair. There is nothing worse than getting your money matched at Betfair then seeing the red suspended sign just after and you have lost your bet.

Has they say "It only takes a second to score a goal"

**in play, run(s)** · 12-05-09, 07:59 PM

That's why I don't like to bet live at asian books. The worst experience I had was a wager on under, first they declined my bet, I retried, then the bet was pending for several MINUTES! No matter if they do it intentionally or not, I don't like the fact that my bet is not accepted after a particular time span. If I want to wager a bigger amount, I wait until the game is suspended, like a time-out or quarter break. This is the only safe way.

Betfair is good for live betting on major events. And all non-Asian bookies I know accept live wagers fairly quick. Pinnacle is also great... they don't work with this danger zone crap, wagers are almost accepted immediately. A pity their selection of live bets is so small. But they regularly offer odds for 2nd halfs on US sports.

As for 188bet, my experience has been positive until now. If they don't sense any "danger", the bet gets almost accepted immediately. But sometimes, the danger flag stays for a longer period of time for no apparent reason. It's really some kind of gamble on its own...

**UV82** · 12-05-09, 08:35 PM

I can assure you that 188bet do not cheat as I had a couple of incidents where they cancelled my bet (on the OVER) as a goal was scored and it worked in my favor.

**Ruifgalmeida** · 12-05-09, 11:18 PM

I agree with UV82 it already hapenned that my bet was cancel in my favor(more that once) normaly the bet takes a few seconds to be comfirmed I think you just had bad luck, I dont work for 188bet, I think they are a honest book, shits hapends when your live betting, if only i had a dime for every time that i bet on team and after a 20 or 30 seconds they suffer a goal.

**raddle_snake** · 12-06-09, 04:28 AM

I dont think that 188bet no intension to cheat? Hopw do you assure that they wont cheat you?

**Jaug** · 12-06-09, 07:47 AM

Well I guess the best way to see that you are not getting cheated is constantly refreshing the menu on the right hand side. That menu has got your last 10 bets and if it says "CONFIRMED" on your bet then it's live. If there is not "CONFIRMED" then it is not live.

**Sportslover** · 12-06-09, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by Jaug

I just threw in a bet at soccer game hannover - bayern munich, U2.25 goals at 1.85. The bet goes trough to their usual "danger - to be confirmed". About 15-20 seconds later bayern scores which is of course terrible for my bet. All of a sudden my bet is confirmed.

Ok so this suprised me and I therefore made a test betting U3 @ 2.05. Bet becomes "danger - to be confirmed", I check back about 50 seconds later still "danger- to be confirmed". Makes no sense to me, they accept all under and hannover bets when bayern scores? Almost outright fraud if that's the case and I can not explain it in any other way.

Comments welcome.

Sounds a bit dogdy, hope this was just an isolated case and that these sites don't engage in this kind of behaviour on a regular basis.

**UV82** · 12-06-09, 10:12 PM

It is a norm with all sites that they take their time to confirm a bet with live betting ... I think that asians are longer (sometimes upto 1 minute) than Betfair and other European sites (5-10 seconds) but that is the risk of live betting... Asians offer without comparison much lower juice than any Eurpean book.

The reason why I am convinced that they dont cheat is that I had the 2 kind of incidents (in my favor and against me) ... feels honest to me.

My experience with 188bet is that they are very reliable book at the same level as Pinny ... low juice ... high limits ... quick payout.