Sportsinteraction.com froze my account and wont pay me

**hellodestiny** · 11-05-09, 06:56 PM

LOL

was the security girls name chris, or teresa.. lol SIA is such an awesome book lol

**Brakon00** · 11-05-09, 08:15 PM

yeah....i think he name is teresa. She is very stubborn and is very unhelpful...she wouldn't tell me if she could even answer a question about wether if send them $$ to cover the returned echeck if i could access and withdraw my funds in my account. i still don't know what to do

**Peep** · 11-05-09, 08:28 PM

If your account shows no activity, I would think the e-check was filled in incorrectly, wrong account number maybe.

This is a bad thing for you, your 12K is gonzo.

What do they claim you owe the $500 for? Another e-check that didn't go through (for one reason or another)?

**Brakon00** · 11-05-09, 08:47 PM

no.....i had a previous account that had 2 echecks return because my bank, bank of america, didn't honor the incoming ACH E-check because it was from online gaming, which it is. So I never touched the other account. 3 months later I decided to open another account and deposit 200 bucks through echeck which they claim did not go through but bank of america told me over the phone that no incoming echeck was even noticed on my account..nothing was returned which is what sportinteraction said occured. So now i have 12k in my account and its suspended and I don't know if i should pay the 750 along wiith the 200 deposit i made which apparently didnt go through.

so both situations the echeck didnt go through and now they claim I owe them 250 from this account and 750 from the other......should i just not contact them or should i try sending 1k to get the 12k in the second account?

do you think they will say since i opened another account that thefunds will not be able to be recovered?

**hellodestiny** · 11-05-09, 08:53 PM

wait.. i apologize if im reading this incorrectly.. but are you saying you have 2 sportsinteraction accounts, and they are aware of this?

hasnt SIA used this as a excuse for keeping winners winnings in the past? multiple accounts..?

**Peep** · 11-05-09, 09:04 PM

You have written bad checks now (for whatever reason) on two different accounts at the same book.

The book, quite understandably, does not like this. They feel like you are freerolling them.

You will never see the 12K you won. When you write bad checks it sort of weakens your case for the book paying you. If I were you, I would stick with Western Union and Moneygram in the future, it is a safer way to deposit.

**nikosgr** · 11-06-09, 01:04 AM

I believe that the problem is very simple.
SIA is confiscating money.
No reason to play there.

**BigWoolyMammoth** · 11-11-09, 12:54 PM

SIA is a scam.
if you would have lost, they would have taken your money.
you won so they just refund it.
dirty dirty dirty book

**AimingHigh** · 11-11-09, 01:49 PM

SIA is a scam.
if you would have lost, they would have taken your money.
you won so they just refund it.
dirty dirty dirty book
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Read the OP's posts BigWoolyMammoth/MelInsurance: SIA had NOT received any money. They didn't refund it; they never received it. And the OP did this twice (deposited from a US bank account and the deposit didn't go through) on two different SIA accounts. Whatever you think of SIA from when you tried to scam them, just like with you, the mess doesn't lie with SIA, but with the OP.

I feel sorry for the OP not getting their money, but given that they had a prior experience with a bad payment, they should have been alert to checking this one definitely went through before going on their winning streak.

**BigWoolyMammoth** · 11-11-09, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by AimingHigh

SIA is a scam.
if you would have lost, they would have taken your money.
you won so they just refund it.
dirty dirty dirty book
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Read the OP's posts BigWoolyMammoth/MelInsurance: SIA had NOT received any money. They didn't refund it; they never received it. And the OP did this twice (deposited from a US bank account and the deposit didn't go through) on two different SIA accounts. Whatever you think of SIA from when you tried to scam them, just like with you, the mess doesn't lie with SIA, but with the OP.

I feel sorry for the OP not getting their money, but given that they had a prior experience with a bad payment, they should have been alert to checking this one definitely went through before going on their winning streak.

Its amazing how they didnt get it twice.
how did I try to scam SIA. we did everything that was asked of us. (hence the 3rd party form). nice try though. SIA is gross. They have more problems then any other book that advertises. but yea, its probably the players fault.
nice try. keep reaching. SIA IS A SCAM.

**hellodestiny** · 11-11-09, 04:46 PM

close your account and run the other way.

thieves.

F- book

**drfunkmaster** · 11-11-09, 05:53 PM

SIA are thieves.. THEY STOLE FROM ME BIG TIME!!!!!!! on poker and on a 9 team parlay...

**Justin7** · 11-11-09, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by drfunkmaster

SIA are thieves.. THEY STOLE FROM ME BIG TIME!!!!!!! on poker and on a 9 team parlay...

Did anyone ever look into it?

how did they rob you on a parlay?

**BigWoolyMammoth** · 11-11-09, 08:12 PM

justin does it matter? you covered up their shit against me and I had THEIR PAPERWORK to prove it.
I am sure you covered up for them against these folks. Maybe they will take care this new guys claim....but do not hold your breath

**Justin7** · 11-11-09, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by BigWoolyMammoth

justin does it matter? you covered up their shit against me and I had THEIR PAPERWORK to prove it.

BigWooly,

You used someone else's bank card and were not unauthorized (bank fraud). You then forged a card to make it look like yours (forgery). There was simply no way you were getting paid after committing several Federal felonies.

**BigWoolyMammoth** · 11-11-09, 08:46 PM

FIRST OFF- that is a lie- my wife sat right in front of me and we signed up together. It was not fraud as it was my wifes card- AND GET THIS JUSTIN- HOLY SHIT- SIA sent us a 3rd party form for me and my wife to sign and send BOTH....THATS RIGHT JUSTIN...BOTH of our drivers license. They said they would pay as soon as they got that. We did it right away. That still wasnt good enough. We did not forget anything. I love the way you try and make it look like it was our fault when we sent you the 3rd party paperwork and all of the emails from SIA.
you were paid off and you may be the dirties one in the industry.
federal offenses-- dont make me puke you weak scumbag piece of shit.

quote=Justin7;2546415]BigWooly,

You used someone else's bank card and were not unauthorized (bank fraud). You then forged a card to make it look like yours (forgery). There was simply no way you were getting paid after committing several Federal felonies.[/quote]

**BigWoolyMammoth** · 11-11-09, 08:55 PM

what makes my stomach curl is that justin runs this board and makes it seem like he is so credible and he is here to do the right thing for people and blah blah blah. So everyone is suppose to believe all the crap he says is the truth.
The people are much smarter then you justin. other then your few goons like aiming high etc.... everyone else knows that you are garbage and you protect books cause they pay you like a lady of the night. a lady of the night here to screw us over if it puts a buck in your pocket.
dont pass yourself as a decent humon being. especially after slingin the federal offense bullshit out of your mouth. how god damn dare you. SIA is trash, a crackhouse at best and you fix their scam and let them get away with everything.
WHY DIDNT YOU ASK SIA WHY THEY LET US BET FOR 4 DAYS AND THEN ONCE WE ASKED FOR A PAYOUT, THEY PULLED THEIR SHIT. IF WE WOULD HAVE LOST, NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED AND YOU GOD DAMN KNOW IT! would have never seen that money again. after 48 hours of not telling us anything, they should begin to take 100% responsibility to anything not pointed out to the player.
they said we could 3rd party. karma is a bitch. life will get you back. you are a bad human being.

**hellodestiny** · 11-11-09, 09:16 PM

2 types of ppl defend sia on here.
ones who are affiliated, and others who do it, merely to kiss justins ass

**Peep** · 11-11-09, 09:20 PM

LOL.

Quite the bunch....

**BigWoolyMammoth** · 11-11-09, 09:35 PM

how about this peep clown.

he sticks up for a book that has more complaints on them then obama right now.
you obviously work for SIA. the biggest offshore scam ever. fix your mistakes and pay the people and you wont get blasted. very simple stuff. we are not asking you to solve cancer. just do not scam people. pretty cool stuff huh?

**johncrud** · 11-11-09, 09:54 PM

lol books will find whatever reasons to not pay you... 12k is quite alot for a book esp a low class one like sportsinteraction. pinny is ok but if you keep requesting 12k then you will find your account in deep trouble. 12k will likely pass their limit per player per household per ip.

here is what a wise man would do.. you win 1k, you withdraw 1k. never leave more than 3k in your account. book is not a safe place to store your money. they are not like your bank account where you know for sure your money is safe.

**Peep** · 11-11-09, 09:58 PM

you obviously work for SIA. the biggest offshore scam ever.

How did you figure out I work for SIA genius?

Was the fact that they threw me out and won't let me play there what gave it away?

**Ace_of_Spades** · 11-11-09, 10:06 PM

That blows, i'd be pissed to not get payed 12k.

**20Four7** · 11-11-09, 10:06 PM

Big wooly..... give me your info on SIA and I'd play there in a minute. You say scam I say free money.......

**Waiting4Godot** · 11-11-09, 10:11 PM

Search on Melinsurance79 to find the original threads or read pretty much any SIA thread that BWM has posted in to get the gist.

Is searching really so hard to do?

**BigWoolyMammoth** · 11-12-09, 12:04 AM

wating4godot, you always post intelligent things.
I would like to read more of your stuff.
thanks for following this and commenting.
take care man

**hellodestiny** · 11-12-09, 12:34 AM

just emailed head office of the NHL, telling them sia has sidney crosby in a popup ad that came on my screen while visiting another sportsbetting related website. ill keep telling them im disgusted that they would allow sidney and there league to be assoiciated with such scum (clearly there not associated and sia is just stealing his image lol) ill call them in the morning to make sure they recieved it. they are going to want to pull that pop up pretty quick. unless they think they have the dough to battle the NHL.
NFL up next.

**Brakon00** · 11-12-09, 01:26 AM

okay....after reading all the comments and personal stories with Sportsinteraction I have concluded they are one of the lowest books out there. PLAIN AND SIMPLE....the first account i created was about 6 months ago and I deposited 200 once and lost on a NBA playoff wager on an over/under by 1 point....i redeposited for 500 and lost 2 250 dollar wagers so that account ended up on a 0 balance. Sportsinteraction never tried to charge my bank account from which i used to deposit by E-check. I used on of my bank accounts that I do not use very often so I never checked it to see if they money had been charged out. NOW....4 weeks ago I created another account since I moved. I did not know you can't make another account. In fact I used the same name on the second account as the first. I deposited 200 on the second account by E-check to a bank account from which I set up to just have that transaction go through so Sportsinteraction wouldnt have an account I use for my personal expenses and bills. I had won over 11k in wagers on NCAAF football that saturday on a 6 team parlay and then won 3 other straight wagers on 3 games that saturday evening totaling between 11-12k. The next morning I log in to submit a withdrawal and it says i have to wait 14 days for the e-check to clear. So i wait until the day and log in and it says the account has been suspended......I contact Sportsinteraction and they say they have confiscated the funds in the account because I made a second account. They told me that I have 700 in debt to them from the first account. I told them the deposit i made should have gone through..there was no reason for it to not go through..there was over 10k in the account. I contacted my bank and to see about any returned or incoming transactions through an ACH or E-check transaction. My bank said there weren't any wat so ever in the last year. So I tell Sportsinteraction that they didn't even attempt to charge my account i used to deposit. THEY SAID " YOU ARE A LIAR!" I tell the lady who said this to me that I will personally fly down to where ever they r located to get my money. She tells me then that you can pay us the 700 and we will talk from there.......I am obvioulsy not paying the 700 if they claim that the 11k in the other account can not be withdrawn...they never attempted to charge me for the 2 original echecks.....

**hellodestiny** · 11-12-09, 07:06 AM

lol. yeah.. you pay us 700, and we'll pay you your winnings... riiight.. thats the same thing as those scam emails.

congrats! you won a million dollars! just send 5000 to nigeria now, and we will mail you your check!

- your pal
Sportsinteraction.com uhh i mean, jabar in nigeria

**Waiting4Godot** · 11-12-09, 09:14 AM

Brakon00, so.. you made three deposits for $500, $250, and $200 -- a total of $950. None of which ever actually came out of your bank account, correct?

From your post, it takes 14 days for an echeck to clear (no idea if that's right or not)... so with the first account you deposited, played, and lost... all in under the 14 days. At that point you had unknowingly shafted SAI for $750. I'm left to wonder if they reached out to you when the e-checked failed and said you owe us $750... and yes, you really do owe them the $750.

You open up a new account at the same book.. and again shaft them for $200. This time you run what amounts to a $200 freeplay up to some real cash and want to get that real cash out. One big issue here is that you knew the first two e-checks didn't work (and apparently didn't try to make that right), but you did the same thing again.

In fact you say:
i had a previous account that had 2 echecks return because my bank, bank of america, didn't honor the incoming ACH E-check because it was from online gaming, which it is.

Now, by all accounts SAI isn't the best of books, but I have to say, they have something of point here. You never actually deposited any money. You tried, but the e-check failed three times... and it seems you knew the first two checks were stopped by BofA, but you went to the very same book with the very same e-check method for another $200. Sounds like you were 'betting' that if I lose this $200, it's not a big deal since the e-check probably won't work again and I'm not out any real money.

I have to agree with some of the early posters... it sucks, but you didn't actually deposit any money (three times no less) and so you really didn't have the money to make the initial bets... so no real winnings this last go 'round. You are literally hoping to get something for nothing. It really does sound like you knew about the first two bad e-checks when you went to do the third, but you did it anyway.

To make up what's possibly a terrible analogy... you used counterfeit money to buy a lottery ticket that wins real money. When you go to collect your winnings you're confronted with the fact that your money is fake, but you don't care you still won.

SAI seems to be a terrible book. For the life of me I don't get why anyone plays there.. or at any book not at least A rated. It seems they offer "good odds" but isn't that warning flag in and of itself?

**BigWoolyMammoth** · 11-12-09, 09:18 AM

dont rip into him hellodstny, this guy is a fair person trying to figure out the situation.
you have to admire that he cares enough to look at both sides.
he knows SIA is dirty. Do not go off on this guy.

**Waiting4Godot** · 11-12-09, 10:39 AM

Just for haha's, what would the ruling by someone like The Greek, Pinnacle, or BetPhoenix be in this sort of situation? No money was actually deposited, but the player accrues winnings? Would they pay?

I see two solutions:

1) Brakon00 gets the money minus the $950, perhaps not happy.. but the debit paid and still a nice chunk of change.
2) SIA says the initial deposit was, for lack of a better term, false.. so there's no initial bet money and no winnings and, by the way, Brakon00 still owes $950.

EDIT: redacted a bunch of pointless stuff on my part. I'm really just curious how a top rated book would handle this situation which is bested summed up by saying: Player initiates deposit which ultimately fails, but the player wins money -- can the player keep the money or what happens?

**Peep** · 11-12-09, 10:54 AM

You think Hello is "fair".

I think he is not.

Do you think he bet the parlay or do you think that SIA would go through the system, find a way to put a losing bet for $50 into someone's account days later, and fake an IP addy on top of that? All for nothing?

Books are easy targets for players to jerk around with.

**BigWoolyMammoth** · 11-12-09, 04:49 PM

SIA ripped me off big time.
why would I side with them?
if hellodstiny scammed the crap out of them, I would still have his side.
I hope EVERYONE scams SIA. They are god damn thieves and should be blown out of the business. We are working on that one day at a time. soon everyone will see SIA is a scam seeking out people to rip off.
can you imagine how many people they did this too that do not know about SBR or anywhere to complain? brutal.
They advertise with OSGA also, so you know big crooked Jim is getting paid to cover their scam as well. Jim at OSGA might be as a big of a crook as Justin.