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  • pjesnik24
    Restricted User
    • 11-01-05
    • 1286

    #1
    globet complaint
    I already made two complaints to SBR but no reply so I hope that it will get some reply here at least:

    I made two asian handicap bets on 02.10.; Bayern Munchen - Koeln (my bet was AH +2 for Koeln for 500 Euros) and ManU - Sunderland (my bet was AH +2 for Sunderland for 500 Euros). Both games ended in draw which means that my bets are clear wins. However, after I logged in to my account I noticed that both bets were graded as LOSS. After contacting their customer service (CS) they replied that the bets will be void since they do not offer asian handicap bets. I would even understand that if it was not for following:
    -the bets were placed at 9 AM so they had more than enough time to void.
    -both teams were huge underdogs so the odds were OK and if I really lost the bets I would never contacted them to void it and they would just keep the money (as they probably did with people who bet the opposite side)
    -the process of accepting wagers at Globet is following: customer places a bet and it goes to a trader and then 5-10 minutes later player gets a reply from their trader if the bet was accepted or not. Of course, both bets were accepted.
    -on their betting page is the following explanation about AH bets (which confirms again that they accept it): Asian Handicap Singles and upwards Accepted (SA) AH1 Home team to win (incl. Handicap)
    AH2 Away team at win (incl. Handicap)
    -I had 254 Euros left in my account so I tried to place it also on Koeln but this wager got refused (meaning that they knew about the asian handicap odds and that they knew about both bets)
    -and FINALLY the BIGGEST reason why I know they take asian handicap bets and why I KNOW I have been cheated of my winnings: on 19/09 I placed a bet on Livorno against Juventus on asian handicap +1.75 (200 euros). again, the bet was forwarded to trader and the bet was accepted. Livorno lost 2:0 meaning that I lost half of my stake. when I checked my statement it was graded as loss. So, I contacted their CS and after several times complaining to them they finally gave me half of the stake back (100 euros) which actually confirms that they DO ACCEPT asian handicap wagers (their CS had to contact every time their risk department to ask what to do), or at least when the customer loses. When I pointed this out to them (after they voided my winning bets) they gave me back the 100 EURO from that Livorno bet saying that it was ALL A MISTAKE! But, they did not void the Livorno bet until I won much more and it was clear that they know about the asian handicap bets in their system and it is also clear that if they voided the livorno bet for me I would double check before I place another Asian handicap bet with GLOBET.
  • pjesnik24
    Restricted User
    • 11-01-05
    • 1286

    #2
    what do you think?
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    • noyb
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 09-13-05
      • 971

      #3
      the thing that stands out for me is that i don't understand how a bookie can claim they do not offer Asian Handicap-bets, yet it is in fact offered on their website. the rest of your story isn't that relevant anymore, if you placed the bets, they apparently offered it and therefore should pay. sounds extremely basic, or am i missing somnething?
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      • pjesnik24
        Restricted User
        • 11-01-05
        • 1286

        #4
        Originally posted by noyb
        the thing that stands out for me is that i don't understand how a bookie can claim they do not offer Asian Handicap-bets, yet it is in fact offered on their website. the rest of your story isn't that relevant anymore, if you placed the bets, they apparently offered it and therefore should pay. sounds extremely basic, or am i missing somnething?

        they say that it was offered by mistake however it was not a mistake when they took my money at first
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        • AimingHigh
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 06-12-09
          • 670

          #5
          Originally posted by pjesnik24
          they say that it was offered by mistake however it was not a mistake when they took my money at first
          So they're saying 2 things: (1) we didn't offer those markets; (2) we didn't mean to accept bets from you on those markets.

          (1) Attempting to get out of paying you by saying that they don't offer those types of markets makes no sense at all. They offered them, and a trader accepted bets on them. And, as regards the particular mistaken markets, what terms do they think the bets have that they say you lost?

          (2) How can it be a mistake to accept your bets if the bets have gone to a trader for approval? Do all their bets go to traders, or only those larger ones? Is there anything on the slip that shows it was processed this way?

          Both (1) and (2) sound even more ridiculous given that they didn't even void your bets, but graded them as losses.

          It sounds quite straightforward to me; you should be paid. I really hope it works out.
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          • pjesnik24
            Restricted User
            • 11-01-05
            • 1286

            #6
            Originally posted by AimingHigh
            So they're saying 2 things: (1) we didn't offer those markets; (2) we didn't mean to accept bets from you on those markets.

            (1) Attempting to get out of paying you by saying that they don't offer those types of markets makes no sense at all. They offered them, and a trader accepted bets on them. And, as regards the particular mistaken markets, what terms do they think the bets have that they say you lost?

            (2) How can it be a mistake to accept your bets if the bets have gone to a trader for approval? Do all their bets go to traders, or only those larger ones? Is there anything on the slip that shows it was processed this way?

            Both (1) and (2) sound even more ridiculous given that they didn't even void your bets, but graded them as losses.

            It sounds quite straightforward to me; you should be paid. I really hope it works out.
            I am not sure about 1 euro bets but all of my bets get referred to a trader and after 5-10 minutes I receive a message from them if it is accepted or not. these bets were accepted of course
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            • vanman
              SBR MVP
              • 02-08-07
              • 1163

              #7
              Sounds like Globet are up to their old tricks again of voiding bets.
              This is the second complaint on here now in a week about books robbing players.
              It`s about time there was something done to protect players and their winnings.
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              • rookie
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-01-05
                • 682

                #8
                Absolutely baffling and disgraceful if this is true. Make sure you have records of your Asian handicap bets at Globet. Even IBAS will find it difficult to rule in their favor. You should approach Gambling Commission UK if this doesn't get resolved amicably.

                Can you give us the exact odds ? I am wondering if the odds meant for European Handicap (that includes tie on handicap) were offered as Asian Handicap.
                Last edited by rookie; 10-30-09, 04:40 AM.
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                • PAPSMEAR
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-13-09
                  • 2581

                  #9
                  Not only do you have to pick the winner but you also have to second guess whether the bet type they are offering is real or just for laughts. What a joke book. BTW if you've had any losing asian handicap bets with them in the past on their logic you are entitled to a full refund.
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                  • pjesnik24
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-01-05
                    • 1286

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rookie
                    Absolutely baffling and disgraceful if this is true. Make sure you have records of your Asian handicap bets at Globet. Even IBAS will find it difficult to rule in their favor. You should approach Gambling Commission UK if this doesn't get resolved amicably.

                    Can you give us the exact odds ? I am wondering if the odds meant for European Handicap (that includes tie on handicap) were offered as Asian Handicap.
                    there were only two options and even they wanted it to be European handicap my bets were +2 and both results ended draw
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                    • LGBoots
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 742

                      #11
                      What odds did you get on Sunderland +2. Should be easy to see if this was an Asian Line

                      My guess would be the odds offered to you for +2 were around the 1.90 mark.
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                      • pjesnik24
                        Restricted User
                        • 11-01-05
                        • 1286

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LGBoots
                        What odds did you get on Sunderland +2. Should be easy to see if this was an Asian Line

                        My guess would be the odds offered to you for +2 were around the 1.90 mark.

                        it was 1.77
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                        • pjesnik24
                          Restricted User
                          • 11-01-05
                          • 1286

                          #13
                          they do not deny that it was AH line nor do they say that the odds were wrong. they just say that they do not offer AH bets at all and that it was just a "technical" problem
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                          • vanman
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-08-07
                            • 1163

                            #14
                            Just had a look at their website,and there are no AH on any matches that i can see.They are offering match h`caps on football matches tho.
                            But this aside,if they offered the asian then they should honour the bet IMO.
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                            • pjesnik24
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-01-05
                              • 1286

                              #15
                              after this problem I did not see any AH bets either, but that does not change the fact that they were offering it and that my money was at risk
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                              • LGBoots
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 742

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pjesnik24
                                it was 1.77
                                In that case Globet are just Crooks

                                In fact they are worse then that as they even had the gall to keep your stake as well

                                Hopefully SBR will get this sorted for you. Good luck & I hope you eventually receive your deserved winnings

                                Shame on you Globet
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                                • pjesnik24
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-01-05
                                  • 1286

                                  #17
                                  I guess I was not clear enough, first they graded my bet as loss but after I complained they voided it meaning that I received my stakes back.
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                                  • HeeeHAWWWW
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-13-08
                                    • 5487

                                    #18
                                    Theft.

                                    At a guess, what maybe happened was they use some external lines service, and accidentally imported lines with Asians one week. I love how their logic results in that being the player's fault though :-)
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                                    • LGBoots
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 742

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pjesnik24
                                      I guess I was not clear enough, first they graded my bet as loss but after I complained they voided it meaning that I received my stakes back.
                                      Very generous of them to return your stake

                                      Stupid thing is Globet are willing to trash any reputation they have left over a bet which at 1.77 would have returned just 385 Euros
                                      Last edited by LGBoots; 10-30-09, 08:41 AM.
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                                      • citlec
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 03-08-08
                                        • 557

                                        #20
                                        Its a shame Globet arent still doing GlobetVIP, when that went they gave us GlobetSports which was good also but since the soccer season finished they changed the GlobetSports website to match the Globet website. Whats the point in having it? The log in they gave me is the same as my log in at Globet.
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                                        • pjesnik24
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 11-01-05
                                          • 1286

                                          #21
                                          any mods?
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                                          • pjesnik24
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 11-01-05
                                            • 1286

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pjesnik24
                                            any mods?
                                            any mods present here today with any kind of reply?
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                                            • Champi
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 12-20-06
                                              • 373

                                              #23
                                              I find another trick from Globet.com
                                              I place a bet late night on Peru Primera division match 1-2 hours before the start ,but my bet wasnt reviewed or accepted,i wait 2 hours nothing-didnt receive confirmation...The game start and normally i suppose my bet which was unconfirmed is voided.
                                              But at the morning i see that they grade my bet as a loss,after they see the result of the match!!!
                                              What a shame!
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                                              • noyb
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 09-13-05
                                                • 971

                                                #24
                                                they have been doing that for a long time (altough they might have stopped doing it for a small period of time, they're doing it again now). they claim they first decide whether or not to accept the bet, and only then look at the result to see who has won. yeah right, altough i remember examples of people getting paid on bets that had already won this way.
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                                                • pjesnik24
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-01-05
                                                  • 1286

                                                  #25
                                                  well, to be fair to them you get a message after you place a bet that you can cancel it if you send them an email before the start of the game
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                                                  • Champi
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-20-06
                                                    • 373

                                                    #26
                                                    So my question is is the bet is accepted or not,after the game start and they didnt confirm..but settled the bet when they see the result?
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                                                    • fixxer
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-13-05
                                                      • 1877

                                                      #27
                                                      Not a clear case for sure
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                                                      • pjesnik24
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 11-01-05
                                                        • 1286

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by fixxer
                                                        Not a clear case for sure
                                                        please share the info you have with us according to which you are making such a statement
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                                                        • pjesnik24
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 11-01-05
                                                          • 1286

                                                          #29
                                                          what should I do about this problem? I filed a complaint to SBR twice and I made it here public but still nothing. anybody with some idea?
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                                                          • rookie
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 10-01-05
                                                            • 682

                                                            #30
                                                            Contact Gambling Commission (UK) or IBAS.
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                                                            • Ace_of_Spades
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-14-09
                                                              • 13518

                                                              #31
                                                              The odds are terrible on this site. I'm going to see what happens with this site. I'm going to deposit 100 bucks in there and get the bonus and see what happens. Nothing but complaints about bookmakers of late on SBR and this one is unusual. i'm interested to see what they do if i get a few wins.
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                                                              • pjesnik24
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 11-01-05
                                                                • 1286

                                                                #32
                                                                well, after my voided bets I made a withdrawal and it was processed in 24 hours. hopefully you will not encounter similar problems
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                                                                • Ace_of_Spades
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-14-09
                                                                  • 13518

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I'm interested in that bonus. i just hope my bets don't get cancelled or anything bad happens.
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                                                                  • jazzmonkey
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 06-27-08
                                                                    • 130

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I might be joining the list on this one with a similar complaint. Bet conditionally accepted but only confirmed 5 hours after the event had started by which time the bet had lost.

                                                                    I have no issue with a bet losing, what I have a problem with is the fact that I assumed that the bet would be voided (couldnt believe that it would be accepted after the match had started) so placed the bet elsewhere. Now looking at a double loss.

                                                                    I have written to them and am awaiting their response.
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                                                                    • vanman
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-08-07
                                                                      • 1163

                                                                      #35
                                                                      If SBR won`t help on this,then i suggest Bookmakersreview.

                                                                      They have helped me in the past.
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