All Broker, Agent and Offshore Exchange Issues

**Zeus1988** · 03-15-25, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Zeus1988

This thread is very helpful! It gives idea to a bettor like me who to trust or not with our money! Lol

how about bookielink? Do they allow players like me to use vpn without no issue?

**blakey008** · 03-15-25, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by jebe99

To those who have BetinAsia accounts......does Betinasia allow VPN use? I ask because some online books don't allow it and withhold payouts for using VPN.
I use VPN because I'm retired and I travel the world extensively spending few weeks in different countries each time, and was wondering if bet brokers like BetinAsia have no issues paying out to their players using VPN.
Thanks in advance.

I would stay away from betinasia If I were you! They are not helpful and they like to scam people. So many bad reviews about them.

**Do@u1998** · 03-24-25, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by blakey008

I would stay away from betinasia If I were you! They are not helpful and they like to scam people. So many bad reviews about them.

Thanks for this! You gave me the idea not to consider betinasia. Im currently using PIWI247 and so far, I haven't had any problems with them.

**blakey008** · 03-25-25, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by Do@u1998

Thanks for this! You gave me the idea not to consider betinasia. Im currently using PIWI247 and so far, I haven't had any problems with them.

Hopefully, you won't have any issues with PIWI247. Aside from BetInAsia, they have been quite controversial lately, based on some recent threads. You can also try Bookielink—they've been the best for me so far!

**blakey008** · 03-25-25, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by Zeus1988

how about bookielink? Do they allow players like me to use vpn without no issue?

Yes! They allow the use of a VPN. That was one of the things I made sure to ask them before opening my account since I travel a lot.

**himjain2** · 03-28-25, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Thefix13

Think most people that are betting 3k euros on a game are aware if it is a winner or not before they start firing off the acquired balance on other bets. You were betting with monopoly money, no one is going to pay you for "wins" you acquired with non-existent funds..

As I said above, I placed the bet and went to sleep only to wake up and see more money in my account, which usually would mean I won the bet which of course wasnt the case this time.. But you are missing the main point here.. All this while I had over 10k in my orbit account.. If I had lost that 'monopoly money bet, they would have happily deducted money from my orbit account..

Anyways, no license is a big NO-NO for me.. they can run away with money anytime they want.. I dont think they will ever pay me out for this case, but this shall act as a fair warning to anyone trying to open an account with them.

**Zeus1988** · 03-29-25, 11:13 AM

Did they advertised to people that they are licensed ?

**himjain2** · 04-02-25, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Zeus1988

Did they advertised to people that they are licensed ?

Yes, it was on their website until I raised a complaint and got this as a reply: https://www.isleofmangsc.com/gamblin...ling-websites/

**blakey008** · 04-08-25, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by himjain2

Yes, it was on their website until I raised a complaint and got this as a reply: https://www.isleofmangsc.com/gamblin...ling-websites/

It means they intentionally did that to cheat.
Is there any new updates about your issue?

**blakey008** · 04-08-25, 08:51 AM

Does sportodyssey still exist nowadays?

**Zeus1988** · 04-20-25, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by blakey008

Does sportodyssey still exist nowadays?

Is that a bookie? Or a broker?

**Zeus1988** · 05-15-25, 12:18 PM

Does anyone here heard about oddslay?
they said it’s an exchange that offers horse racing option. Would like to get some insights

**blakey008** · 05-15-25, 12:47 PM

Hello fellas,

Do you know any broker who offers good bonuses?

**Moneygreen** · 05-20-25, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Zeus1988

Does anyone here heard about oddslay?
they said it’s an exchange that offers horse racing option. Would like to get some insights

Odds lay? Is that a sportsbook or exchange?

**Renat75** · 06-20-25, 05:42 PM

I started betting at Orbit two months ago through one of the preferred Orbit agents. Everything was fine until this week, had already one quick withdrawal. But this week with a much larger withdrawal they don't process it saying betfair conduct a "routine check" of my bets and until they complete this check I can't get my money. Thats already very strange cause I bet only on big markets, fund passing or match-fixing impossible in those markets. But okay, if they want to check they can do it but do it quickly. The question is how long can they hold on to client's money without any reason? Several days, a week, a month? Btw my account is not suspended I continue to bet as much as I want. But I can't withdraw at the moment,

**Optional** · 06-21-25, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by Renat75

I started betting at Orbit two months ago through one of the preferred Orbit agents. Everything was fine until this week, had already one quick withdrawal. But this week with a much larger withdrawal they don't process it saying betfair conduct a "routine check" of my bets and until they complete this check I can't get my money. Thats already very strange cause I bet only on big markets, fund passing or match-fixing impossible in those markets. But okay, if they want to check they can do it but do it quickly. The question is how long can they hold on to client's money without any reason? Several days, a week, a month? Btw my account is not suspended I continue to bet as much as I want. But I can't withdraw at the moment,

If it's really Betfair wanting to review the account it may not happen until after the weekend but it should be only a day or two.

**Renat75** · 06-21-25, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by Optional

If it's really Betfair wanting to review the account it may not happen until after the weekend but it should be only a day or two.

I ordered a withdrawal on Wednesday morning so they already "reviewed" it for 3 days. But okay, I can wait a couple of days more

**Renat75** · 06-23-25, 10:12 AM

Today I chatted with them again. "Please be advised that the check will take a while". "There is no timeframe for the routine check, that's why its advisable to wait for our updates." It seems they think that they can hold on to client's money forever...

**satana** · 06-24-25, 06:46 PM

I was very pleased with their service until they started to just voiding bets at their whim.

First it was a women's double match where they claimed the market failed to turn in-play, not true, the market was clearly signaled as in-play and had the in-play delay in place.

Now they topped this off at Wimbledon qualies, I placed a bet on Kachmazov, they first voided the bet, then hours after the match was over they grated the bet as losing, of course I would have traded my positions live making a gain as the guy was well ahead initially.

**satana** · 06-24-25, 06:47 PM

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**Optional** · 06-24-25, 08:19 PM

What was the bet on?

Is this through Orbit Exchange?

**satana** · 06-25-25, 03:13 AM

Originally posted by Optional

What was the bet on?

Is this through Orbit Exchange?

Trungelliti-Kachmazov winner market
Wimbledon qualies R1.
Never had betfair pull a trick like this on me.
The idea of converting a void bet to a graded one hours the event is over is just absurd.
Keep in mind the email you see there was sent to me was sent when the match was over already.

Sharpexchange with Betinasia.

**craftbrewer** · 06-25-25, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by Optional

What was the bet on?

Is this through Orbit Exchange?

Orbit is not available via Betinasia any more. Betinasia replaced Orbit with their own white label exchange

**craftbrewer** · 06-25-25, 06:05 AM

Originally posted by satana

Trungelliti-Kachmazov winner market
Wimbledon qualies R1.
Never had betfair pull a trick like this on me.
The idea of converting a void bet to a graded one hours the event is over is just absurd.
Keep in mind the email you see there was sent to me was sent when the match was over already.

Sharpexchange with Betinasia.

I doubt Betinasia was the one that voided your bet. Most likely it was betfair.

**Optional** · 06-25-25, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by satana

Trungelliti-Kachmazov winner market
Wimbledon qualies R1.
Never had betfair pull a trick like this on me.
The idea of converting a void bet to a graded one hours the event is over is just absurd.
Keep in mind the email you see there was sent to me was sent when the match was over already.

Sharpexchange with Betinasia.

Oh yeah I forgot Betinasia were dropped by Orbit.

Well I can't see any obvious reason that would be voided. So maybe there was a genuine error in initial grading?

**satana** · 06-25-25, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Oh yeah I forgot Betinasia were dropped by Orbit.

Well I can't see any obvious reason that would be voided. So maybe there was a genuine error in initial grading?

there was no grading to begin with. I woke up and the bet was void. At that moment the match was still in progress, in the evening they pulled this surprise saying would be graded. Which doesn't make any sense, what if I wanted to trade the match?
In the previous response they meandered about having put up a double market for the match or something along the lines.

20 years betting with betfair I literally never had a voided match graded after match was over, never.
So I find it very hard to believe this is on betfair's part.
Besides, even if it were they take responsibility for these mistakes, at the very least my bet would have stayed voided, and possibly winner had the selection won.
They have owned their mistakes pretty much all the time, that is from my exprience of course.
Hell they even paid a match that they left open at 1,20 on the sportsbook as I piled 5k on it. Not a peep from them.

Now this is the second time Betinasia steals money and hide behind the 'it's the book decision', which tells me they can pull this s*it with anybody at anytime.

**Optional** · 06-25-25, 07:12 PM

Oh yeah. I think BIA are the most untrustworthy agent operating at the moment. So easy to assume same as you here.

Sounds like they messed up and decided the most profitable way to handle it was to do this to you.

if you really did bet a second version of the market, how can they ethically grade it based on a different market which you didnt bet?

I am sure any argument put forward will just fall on deaf ears though.

The owner had the brass balls to come here and try to claim they have never had one unhappy customer. When I sent him a list of 15 or 20 examples of people treated unfairly and just brushed off or lied to by his staff, he suddenly lost his ability to type.

Betinasia are the worst well known agent.

**satana** · 06-26-25, 02:36 AM

You know what's funny, they are trying to pin it to the book, so I am asking them which book made this error so I can verify that, not a single reply of course.

Glad I never risked high amounts with these clowns, would feel safer putting my money at some illegal bookie on the streets.

**satana** · 06-26-25, 06:37 AM

Does Smarkets have a white label or whatever they are called Pinnaclesports platform?

**Renat75** · 06-26-25, 10:31 AM

New developments, I ve received an email from Bet-Football, thats the main part:
"However, we still require the following outstanding documents to complete the verification process:Proof of Source of Funds (e.g. recent payslip, bank statement showing regular income, etc.)Proof of Source of Wealth (e.g. investment portfolio, inheritance documentation, business ownership records, etc.) Please note that screenshots or statements from other gambling platforms, by themselves, do not constitute valid proof of source of funds. These may be submitted in addition to primary financial documents but cannot be accepted on their own."
I don't understand honestly what they want, my source of funds is betting, I've won at betfair, withdrew by skrill and deposited at Bet-Football. I've sent them screenshots with a proof of that. I don't have "regular income" this high, when I started betting my first deposits were like 1k or even less.

**DynamiteLarry64** · 06-26-25, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Renat75

New developments, I ve received an email from Bet-Football, thats the main part:
"However, we still require the following outstanding documents to complete the verification process:Proof of Source of Funds (e.g. recent payslip, bank statement showing regular income, etc.)Proof of Source of Wealth (e.g. investment portfolio, inheritance documentation, business ownership records, etc.) Please note that screenshots or statements from other gambling platforms, by themselves, do not constitute valid proof of source of funds. These may be submitted in addition to primary financial documents but cannot be accepted on their own."
I don't understand honestly what they want, my source of funds is betting, I've won at betfair, withdrew threw skrill and deposited at Bet-Football. I've sent them screenshots with a proof of that. I don't have "regular income" this high, when I started betting my first deposits were like 1k or even less.

Did you deposit a 5digit amount to them and then they requested a source of funds from you?

I can't see any agent requesting SoW for 1-2k deposits.

**Renat75** · 06-26-25, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by DynamiteLarry64

Did you deposit a 5digit amount to them and then they requested a source of funds from you?

I can't see any agent requesting SoW for 1-2k deposits.

Yes, 5digit amounts

**Renat75** · 06-27-25, 10:11 AM

Its already 8 days since Bet-football don't process my withdrawal. And btw, yesterday same question (source of funds) was asked by Pinnacle. I've submitted the same documents and in several hours got approval.
Subject: Message from Pinnacle
Dear Renat,
Thank you for submitting the requested source of funds documents. These have been reviewed and verified.
Please be aware that the verification is an ongoing process and we might need to request from you further documentation in the future. If so, we will notify you in advance

**Optional** · 06-27-25, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by Renat75

Its already 8 days since Bet-football don't process my withdrawal. And btw, yesterday same question (source of funds) was asked by Pinnacle. I've submitted the same documents and in several hours got approval.
Subject: Message from Pinnacle
Dear Renat,
Thank you for submitting the requested source of funds documents. These have been reviewed and verified.
Please be aware that the verification is an ongoing process and we might need to request from you further documentation in the future. If so, we will notify you in advance

That is a good indication that betfair should be happy with your KYC data too.

Be aware that there is some possibility that this is just the third party agent looking for an excuse to grab those funds.

**Renat75** · 06-28-25, 04:57 AM

At this stage its not just a "possibility" its absolutely clear they don't want to pay me. I've spoken with betfair yesterday, they are happy with my KYC data and categorically deny that this has anything to do with them. But bet-football still replies "betfair routine check", "no timeframe"