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  • kidcudi92
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-14-11
    • 15434

    #106
    Bodog gonna Bodog

    OP deserves something here
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    • milwaukee mike
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 08-22-07
      • 26914

      #107
      Originally posted by allabout the $$$
      No way I believe from what I checked yesterday only one time in all of their games did he accomplish high score and most 3's but he has been high score in I believe 5 of the 6 games they have played
      you're looking at it backwards... if he has the high score then he isn't necessarily making the most 3s... but if durant makes the most 3s in a game where the other leading scorers chuck up a lot of them (curry/klay/harden) then he is gonna be the leading scorer a large % of the time.

      "she" took a 31-1 bet and made it 100-1 when it should've been maybe 40-1

      if there is no correlation then book my action on prop parlays PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU
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      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65084

        #108
        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
        bingo

        no idea how people can argue these weren't correlated... if durant made the most 3s then he was gonna be the leading scorer way more than 20% of the time.

        bovada is really wrong here, even if there are multiple accounts involved (which this looks like), and even if the "husband" was booted, the standard is "you book the bet you pay the bet".

        granted these were correlated but a fair payout would be to at least pay the highest odds as a straight bet, so for durant the player should've won at least 3100
        im not arguing whether they were correlated or not


        im arguing against bodog software

        bodog payouts and collection of losses every time before this


        they were accepting the bet to freeroll

        as soon as the person was either up a) a ton of fukkin money or b) wanted to withdraw.......bodog says ohhhh sorry about that


        give me a break

        why do POSTERS keep siding with shady books
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        • RudyRuetigger
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-24-10
          • 65084

          #109
          Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
          im not arguing whether they were correlated or not


          im arguing against bodog software

          bodog payouts and collection of losses every time before this


          they were accepting the bet to freeroll

          as soon as the person was either up a) a ton of fukkin money or b) wanted to withdraw.......bodog says ohhhh sorry about that


          give me a break

          why do POSTERS keep siding with shady books
          furthermore, it is NOT the players job to ask bodog...hey will you take a bet on knicks +4 +100 (when the current line is +2 -110)

          no

          bodog sets the line, you either accept what they offer or you dont

          you have no say in what the line is set at

          that is their job....tough shit that they failed in this situation
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          • milwaukee mike
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 08-22-07
            • 26914

            #110
            Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
            im not arguing whether they were correlated or not


            im arguing against bodog software

            bodog payouts and collection of losses every time before this


            they were accepting the bet to freeroll

            as soon as the person was either up a) a ton of fukkin money or b) wanted to withdraw.......bodog says ohhhh sorry about that


            give me a break

            why do POSTERS keep siding with shady books
            if you're talking about me then maybe you missed this part of my post

            bovada is really wrong here, even if there are multiple accounts involved (which this looks like), and even if the "husband" was booted, the standard is "you book the bet you pay the bet".
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            • thechaoz
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-23-09
              • 12154

              #111
              Originally posted by allabout the $$$
              yesterday forbes had the most 3's wasnt high scorer

              reddick had most 3's wasn't high scorer.

              this is an absolute free roll by the book imo
              Ya this is fuggin bs. They also gladly took action on her other wagers that were losses.

              Complete crap by Bodog here
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              • TheMoneyShot
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 02-14-07
                • 28672

                #112
                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                furthermore, it is NOT the players job to ask bodog...hey will you take a bet on knicks +4 +100 (when the current line is +2 -110)

                no

                bodog sets the line, you either accept what they offer or you dont

                you have no say in what the line is set at

                that is their job....tough shit that they failed in this situation
                Not siding for the sh#$ book. Just speaking the facts of how outrageous the parlay increased by. Even MilwaukeeMike noticed it.

                Now, if the OP wants to pretend like she/he/it didn't know.... that's their defense. If you do sports gambling.... you generally know BASIC ODDS. Playing dumb isn't an out.

                Sites like 5Dimes lock you from wagering prop parlays.... etc.

                If BoDog/Bovada wants to be honest... and admit the mistake... so be it. Give the player $500.00 and call it a day. And fix it so it doesn't happen again.
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                • allabout the $$$
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-17-10
                  • 9843

                  #113
                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                  you're looking at it backwards... if he has the high score then he isn't necessarily making the most 3s... but if durant makes the most 3s in a game where the other leading scorers chuck up a lot of them (curry/klay/harden) then he is gonna be the leading scorer a large % of the time.

                  "she" took a 31-1 bet and made it 100-1 when it should've been maybe 40-1

                  if there is no correlation then book my action on prop parlays PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU
                  1) how many times during the season did durant lead his team in 3's? id wager 3-5 games tops. Now thats not including players on the other team. so probably less. not gonna do the legwork but if durant had the most 3's and points scored in 3 regular season games out of 82 id be shocked.

                  2) I dont disagree with you on the 31-1 and make it 100 -1. that is bodogs issue with their own software.

                  3) I dont take action and if i did i wouldnt be dumb enough to allow props to be parlayed.
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                  • allabout the $$$
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 04-17-10
                    • 9843

                    #114
                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                    Not siding for the sh#$ book. Just speaking the facts of how outrageous the parlay increased by. Even MilwaukeeMike noticed it.

                    Now, if the OP wants to pretend like she/he/it didn't know.... that's their defense. If you do sports gambling.... you generally know BASIC ODDS. Playing dumb isn't an out.

                    Sites like 5Dimes lock you from wagering prop parlays.... etc.

                    If BoDog/Bovada wants to be honest... and admit the mistake... so be it. Give the player $500.00 and call it a day. And fix it so it doesn't happen again.
                    how you gonna say 500 and call it a day they had 100 on that parlay one of the bets was 31-1 minimum they should get it 3200.00
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65084

                      #115
                      Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                      Not siding for the sh#$ book. Just speaking the facts of how outrageous the parlay increased by. Even MilwaukeeMike noticed it.

                      Now, if the OP wants to pretend like she/he/it didn't know.... that's their defense. If you do sports gambling.... you generally know BASIC ODDS. Playing dumb isn't an out.

                      Sites like 5Dimes lock you from wagering prop parlays.... etc.

                      If BoDog/Bovada wants to be honest... and admit the mistake... so be it. Give the player $500.00 and call it a day. And fix it so it doesn't happen again.
                      yet, you are letting the sportsbook play dumb

                      the one who set the line and accepted it

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                      • allabout the $$$
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-17-10
                        • 9843

                        #116
                        Originally posted by allabout the $$$
                        1) how many times during the season did durant lead his team in 3's? id wager 3-5 games tops. Now thats not including players on the other team. so probably less. not gonna do the legwork but if durant had the most 3's and points scored in 3 regular season games out of 82 id be shocked.

                        2) I dont disagree with you on the 31-1 and make it 100 -1. that is bodogs issue with their own software.

                        3) I dont take action and if i did i wouldnt be dumb enough to allow props to be parlayed.
                        just checked durant averaged 1.8 3's per game for the season

                        thompson averaged 3.1

                        curry 5.1
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                        • RudyRuetigger
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 65084

                          #117
                          Originally posted by allabout the $$$
                          just checked durant averaged 1.8 3's per game for the season

                          thompson averaged 3.1

                          curry 5.1
                          oh wow

                          check who was leading scorer for the year


                          popcorn.gif

                          im not even arguing this side, but lets see???
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                          • allabout the $$$
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 04-17-10
                            • 9843

                            #118
                            Curry led team in scoring by 2 points a game but average 3 more 3's per game
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                            • RudyRuetigger
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-24-10
                              • 65084

                              #119
                              Originally posted by allabout the $$$
                              Curry led team in scoring by 2 points a game but average 3 more 3's per game
                              no bro

                              point i was making for your side of winning:

                              1 James Harden, PG HOU 78 36.8 36.1 10.8-24.5 .442 4.8-13.2 .368 9.7-11.0 .879
                              2 Paul George, SF OKC 77 36.9 28.0 9.2-21.0 .438 3.8-9.8 .386 5.9-7.0 .839
                              3 Giannis Antetokounmpo, PF MIL 72 32.8 27.7 10.0-17.3 .578 0.7-2.8 .256 6.9-9.5 .729
                              4 Joel Embiid, C PHI 64 33.7 27.5 9.1-18.7 .484 1.2-4.1 .300 8.2-10.1 .804
                              5 LeBron James, SF LAL 55 35.2 27.4 10.1-19.9 .510 2.0-5.9 .339 5.1-7.6 .665
                              6 Stephen Curry, PG GS 69 33.8 27.3 9.2-19.4 .472 5.1-11.7 .437 3.8-4.2 .916
                              7 Kawhi Leonard, SF TOR 60 34.0 26.6 9.3-18.8 .496 1.9-5.0 .371 6.1-7.1 .854
                              Devin Booker, SG PHX 64 35.0 26.6 9.2-19.6 .467 2.1-6.5 .326 6.1-7.1 .866
                              9 Kevin Durant, SF GS 78 34.6 26.0 9.2-17.7 .521 1.8-5.0 .353 5.7-6.5 .885
                              10 Anthony Davis, PF NO 56 33.0 25.9 9.5-18.3 .517 0.9-2.6 .331 6.1-7.7 .794




                              maybe none of the other teams with leading scorers played

                              i dont care, im not checking that night




                              id like to think he (tiff) knew what he was doing

                              and he caught them

                              but even if she was ignorant, i dont care either way
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                              • milwaukee mike
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-22-07
                                • 26914

                                #120
                                Originally posted by allabout the $$$
                                1) how many times during the season did durant lead his team in 3's? id wager 3-5 games tops. Now thats not including players on the other team. so probably less. not gonna do the legwork but if durant had the most 3's and points scored in 3 regular season games out of 82 id be shocked.

                                2) I dont disagree with you on the 31-1 and make it 100 -1. that is bodogs issue with their own software.

                                3) I dont take action and if i did i wouldnt be dumb enough to allow props to be parlayed.
                                1) i just looked at the game log, looks like last 2 games vs clippers, and 2/25 charlotte, and 11/29 toronto... i could've easily missed 1 but let's go with 4 times out of 89 games... 31-1 seems fair, 100-1 seems like a pretty good bet by OP, no wonder they did a lot of them lol

                                2) yes it is bodog's issue, that's why i agree they are wrong here and should pay something fair

                                3) so you admit the bet was correlated!!??
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                                • BuckyOne
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-02-15
                                  • 2728

                                  #121
                                  I am not seeing these type of props for tonight. The other props do not appear to be parlayable anymore??? You could put this in the "another golden goose got butchered" category???

                                  I am still a firm believer that a professional player has to know how much they can collect (or get away with). The green monster raised its ugly grinch face here.

                                  It is too late now - but, this is no place to put 1000 in and get a bonus. You play this hand the right way to collect. Maybe, 2-300 deposit - have the rollover met - win 2-3k tops with this pro technique - get it out - apparently - no other book is this stupid to allow this devious - heinous - sharp activity? Sorry, that books do not play fair but, we always knew that and they took the bet so they need to pay it means nothing - books will pay it if they feel like it!

                                  Remember that pigs get fat but hogs get slaughtered! The only thing good that can come out of this is that a lot of players got warned that this is a small potatoes sports book we cannot trust.
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                                  • kingdom
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-25-10
                                    • 10099

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                    Not siding for the sh#$ book. Just speaking the facts of how outrageous the parlay increased by. Even MilwaukeeMike noticed it.

                                    Now, if the OP wants to pretend like she/he/it didn't know.... that's their defense. If you do sports gambling.... you generally know BASIC ODDS. Playing dumb isn't an out.

                                    Sites like 5Dimes lock you from wagering prop parlays.... etc.

                                    If BoDog/Bovada wants to be honest... and admit the mistake... so be it. Give the player $500.00 and call it a day. And fix it so it doesn't happen again.
                                    as all books should. sbg allowed booked correlated parlays back in the day and to their credit did pay. if its a bet thats not allowed, software shouldn't allow it. if possible for 5d, its possible for all.
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                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 08-24-10
                                      • 65084

                                      #123
                                      i dont know why you guys want to argue if it is correlated

                                      thats not the main point here
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                                      • allabout the $$$
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 04-17-10
                                        • 9843

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                        1) i just looked at the game log, looks like last 2 games vs clippers, and 2/25 charlotte, and 11/29 toronto... i could've easily missed 1 but let's go with 4 times out of 89 games... 31-1 seems fair, 100-1 seems like a pretty good bet by OP, no wonder they did a lot of them lol

                                        2) yes it is bodog's issue, that's why i agree they are wrong here and should pay something fair

                                        3) so you admit the bet was correlated!!??
                                        3) no i still dont agree its correlated too many other variables (other players) that can affect the outcome of the bet.
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                                        • rm18
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-20-05
                                          • 22291

                                          #125
                                          Home team ML and under are correlated in MLB but every took allows you to parlay them, they are not extremely correlated though. You could do some player props that were way more correlated than that though
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65084

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                            if you're talking about me then maybe you missed this part of my post

                                            bovada is really wrong here, even if there are multiple accounts involved (which this looks like), and even if the "husband" was booted, the standard is "you book the bet you pay the bet".
                                            yea ok bro

                                            you are a real advocate here


                                            esp given this

                                            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                            you're looking at it backwards... if he has the high score then he isn't necessarily making the most 3s... but if durant makes the most 3s in a game where the other leading scorers chuck up a lot of them (curry/klay/harden) then he is gonna be the leading scorer a large % of the time.

                                            "she" took a 31-1 bet and made it 100-1 when it should've been maybe 40-1

                                            if there is no correlation then book my action on prop parlays PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU
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                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-24-10
                                              • 65084

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by rm18
                                              Home team ML and under are correlated in MLB but every took allows you to parlay them, they are not extremely correlated though. You could do some player props that were way more correlated than that though
                                              ofcourse you can

                                              when someone hits for a huge sum and doesnt withdraw due to book restrictions and confiscation

                                              we will deal with that

                                              until then...trout most hits, and angels win....well thats a winning prop for right now


                                              these fukk clowns will say its a loss when someone wins a decent amt




                                              again, book needs to correct this....player did nothing wrong
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                                              • MrCavalier
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 12-27-18
                                                • 279

                                                #128
                                                Milwaukee Mike is the biggest fcking shill.. Its always the players fault.. never the book.. The book took the bet and now doesn’t want to pay... Mike why don’t you explain to all of us scammers how this is remotely ok? Joe Cool said it the best.. you have to get lucky and win and get extra lucky to cash out with no problems... Fck online books.. Fcking crooks.. Why do you think books are moving towards bitcoin deposits? I will tell you why.. Once they fck you, you can’t charge back them... Once you send that bitcoin you never getting it back.. If this man or women had access to a book in Jersey or Pennsylvania or Vegas.. This shit wouldn’t be happening.. Such a shame so many here stick up for the books.. Even when they are clearly in the wrong..
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                                                • Tiff18
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 04-28-19
                                                  • 12

                                                  #129
                                                  Just to clear up some things (and once again I can verify all of this if I thought it would help, but would rather not reveal too much personal information).

                                                  1) I said right in the first post that I thought the odds were good. Especially after the first two nights I hit longshots so I kept betting them. I don't see how that would be suspicious. I had not heard of a site/casino/etc... ever going back on a wager that they offered.

                                                  The betting history is exactly as I described. If I didnt have to bet $11,000 to unlock the previously won money I wouldn't even have been considering NBA prop bets to begin with.

                                                  2) Once I won the biggest Kevin Durant bet and the bet didn't clear right away I was a little bit worried that I had won too much and they wouldn't pay out. Once the site settled the bet a a loss I didn't really expect they would reverse their decision. Once they reversed the decision on the next day I assumed that things were all good and the same kind of bets were still available. Why would I assume I was doing anything wrong?

                                                  3) Once again, yes I thought the odds were good. However, the worst thing I thought would happen is that the site would stop offering the bets. Seemed like a good way to clear the bonus and try to win big while doing so. I never in a million years thought they would go back and cancel bets from 5 days previous.

                                                  4) In hindsight I obviosuly wished I stopped right after the Kevin Durant win but honestly, wouldn't that seem more suspicous? If you were winning money doing something wouldn't you keep doing it?

                                                  5) I used to work for a major professional sports team (customer service, sales). I work in a financial field now. My family and I go to Vegas once a year and some of the nearby casinos where we live a few times a year. I play slots, some blackjack, and bets sports a bit.

                                                  My family and I are not super excited to have our names attached to this thing. My husband is a teacher who also likes to gamble casually although he used to play a lot of poker in casinos and online.

                                                  If someone was to answer my complaint form here or had some type of influence with Bodog I can easily verify all of this.

                                                  In the mean time, I am not disputing that someone at Bodog might have made an error with the odds. What I have a problem with is that I went 5 days thinking I had won a very large sum of money and Bodog took it back without any communication.

                                                  If they had sent something (or even better, called me) like "We messed up. Sorry but we can't let those bets stand because we made a bunch of mistakes. We should have told you after the very first bet you won and for that we apologize. Here is a % of the winnings. Don't bet parlays anymore." then I wouldn't even have come here. If they still do that I will move on. Otherwise, I'll wait to see if SBR can help me and if not, I'll just post the story to Twitter.

                                                  And to those of you who think "no one cares you are a mother of two" I think you are wrong. The general public will probably care a lot about this story. They won't know what a parlay even means but they will see a middle-aged, middle-class woman with two young kids who won $25,000 and the online casino that took the winnings back.

                                                  It isn't ideal for me or my family to go that route but it seems worth the trouble to have the story out there.
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                                                  • eaglesfan371
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-08-19
                                                    • 4079

                                                    #130
                                                    Just file the SBR dispute, comment in here every couple days to get this thread pushed to top, Bodog might give you the $ since there's a lot of controversy and bad publicity here...respond with all your evidence to the SBR agent who reaches out to you in coming days. They handle a lot so don't expect immediate turnaround...
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                                                    • moojoo
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 09-02-16
                                                      • 938

                                                      #131
                                                      Can somebody give us statistics regardin most 3s/points per night since playoff started,and how many times same guy had most 3s/pts. I really doubt its more that 15-20%.
                                                      Like someone said its not extreme correlation. Making most 3 pointers doesnt mean he will have most points,if he have most points doesnt mean he have most 3s.
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                                                      • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-15-12
                                                        • 21746

                                                        #132
                                                        Is this person in the states
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                                                        • allabout the $$$
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 04-17-10
                                                          • 9843

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by moojoo
                                                          Can somebody give us statistics regardin most 3s/points per night since playoff started,and how many times same guy had most 3s/pts. I really doubt its more that 15-20%.
                                                          Like someone said its not extreme correlation. Making most 3 pointers doesnt mean he will have most points,if he have most points doesnt mean he have most 3s.
                                                          41 games 13 times it has happened high score/ most 3's
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                                                          • BigdaddyQH
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-13-09
                                                            • 19530

                                                            #134
                                                            If you are dumb enough to give your money to overseas books, you deserve to get your asses kicked. Only a complete and total dumb asrse would send money to a place where he/he has absolutely no control over it. When I make a wager for big money, I am going to e standing in that book prepared to cash it in immediately. It is quite simple. I give the book cash when I place the wager. I want my winnings the minute they hit. I did not make the book wait for weeks to collect, so why should they make me wait. You people get used like a two dollar hooker. You are basically helpless and at the mercy of a total stranger whom you cannot see, and basically talk to you when he wants to. The reason why these places flourish is because you people can not do a thing about it.

                                                            As far as our mother of two is concerned, if you buy her story, I have some nice beachfront property in Kansas to sell you. My guess is that her hubby is the real gambler and just opened an account in her name because he cannot use his own name. You would be surprised at the percentage of offshore accounts that are nothing more than just that.
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                                                            • moojoo
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 09-02-16
                                                              • 938

                                                              #135
                                                              Obvious guess is Canada.
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                                                              • allabout the $$$
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-17-10
                                                                • 9843

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by Tiff18
                                                                If they had sent something (or even better, called me) like "We messed up. Sorry but we can't let those bets stand because we made a bunch of mistakes. We should have told you after the very first bet you won and for that we apologize. Here is a % of the winnings. Don't bet parlays anymore." then I wouldn't even have come here. If they still do that I will move on.

                                                                this statement right here makes me think you took a shot. ive been saying you should get paid, after that statement i dont think so.

                                                                no one would accept a % of the winnings and be ok with it if they knew they were taking a shot and wanted to get over
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                                                                • Sam Odom
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-30-05
                                                                  • 58063

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Time for a Move ----> Sportsbooks & The Industry
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                                                                  • icon
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-09-18
                                                                    • 3431

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                                    If you are dumb enough to give your money to overseas books
                                                                    Yes, overseas to Costa Rica, lol.
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                                                                    • HedgeHog
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                                      • 10128

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by allabout the $$$
                                                                      41 games 13 times it has happened high score/ most 3's
                                                                      That a 32% correlation, which is fairly high but not obscene. On college football sides and totals, I think most Books cut off at around 30% correlation for same game side/total. So this is a tough case. Basically a real A Book pays while a lesser outfit stiffs on these bets.
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                                                                      • icon
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-09-18
                                                                        • 3431

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by MrCavalier
                                                                        Milwaukee Mike is the biggest fcking shill.. Its always the players fault.. never the book.. .
                                                                        Some of you guys seriously lack understanding. Milw Mike isn't defending the book or blaming the player, he is just explaining the book rules and what to expect from this type of dispute.

                                                                        I personally believe if they booked the bet they should pay it and learn from their mistake but this is not how it works in reality.
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