Betonline cancelling MLB wager on a "bad line" when it wasn't one!

[JoeCool20]

you insinuating that it is up to the client or bettor to somehow "KNOW" (maybe with a crystal ball I guess? LOL) which lines are "bad" and refrain from betting them is now the most absurd thing that I have ever read!

LOL You've got to be kidding!!

[JoeCool20]

Someone wants help... You call him a cheat and to look in the mirror..Just irked me thats all, maybe one day ill need some help - i wouldnt expect that.

Id call it a bad line as the bet was still "live". If the result was known then id personally call that a late bet.
The issue isnt even that, the issue is the valid bet.

anyway, good luck op.

Yeah the dude calling him a "cheat" and siding with the Book when THEY are the ones that offered the line up for betting is incredibly absurd!!
Like the client is supposed to "know" (like a psychic!) which lines he CAN bet and which lines will get his money stolen? LOL

He has GOT to be joking!!!

[JoeCool20]

You could go back and read any of the 8 posts in this thread you have made to hear dumber ;-)




I especially like the post about how you would cheat the book at any opportunity, followed by acting all outraged that you think they would do same to you. Lovin' the irony. You should be on stage.

LOL Once again you calling someone betting a line that the S-book offered up for betting "cheating" makes me think you don't know what the word cheat means!! That means everybody who places a bet on a line that they offered is "cheating" right? No your absurdity gets even WORSE!! It's only cheating if we bet lines that we somehow (maybe with a crystal ball?) should "Know" are bad lines! LOL

You don't even have a clue whether the line was REALLY "bad" or if the S-book left it like that on purpose and then cheated everyone who won on it! But you side with them ANYWAY!!

Dude, The Fuk-in books are the only one's that get to say a line is bad! We NEVER get to say it and cheat OUR losses back!!
THEY make ALL the rules and they have your money & you can do NOTHING about it!!

So You are damn right I would bet every line I could that THEY offered up for me to bet if I thought it was going to win! (Why the fuk else am I there but to bet things I think are going to win?!)

And then if they cheated me out of the winnings on it, then HELL YES I'd cheat every one of them every chance I get and then I'd tell them all about stories like this where THEY cheated somebody and then told them it was THEIR fault for betting!

Let me know if there is ANY way to cheat these places when THEY have my money and I will cheat Bet-online out of all I can for doing this to this guy.

Then I'll tell you I did it and you can "take up" for the poor S-book! LOL UGH

[JoeCool20]

Some dude saw a score change, but the S-book didn't change the line on live wagering.

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  So hell, what does he do? He thinks he has a real good line so he bets more. And then the S-book comes back & says to him "We put the line out, but it was a 'bad line' so we are going to cancel the bets you made."
  
  They even stole his money back from a live bet he made BEFORE the score changed! How the fuk far can they go back and steal peoples' money after THEY fuk a line up? As far as they feel like it? Sheez!
  
  Then some goofballs on here start siding with the S-book (the ones that put the damn line out & accepted bets on it in the first place!!) and start telling the guy that he "should have known" that the Book had fuk-ked the line up and it was his fault for betting it and "taking a shot" at the book!! LOL Are you joking?
  
  So the PLAYER is supposed to have a damn magic genie lamp and somehow KNOW which bets the book is going to go back and say had "bad lines" on them? And then the PLAYER is supposed to make sure he doesn't bet those?
  
  You've GOT to be joking!!
  
  So now the book isn't at fault for putting the bad line out for wagering, and instead the client "should have known" the line was bad and he shouldn't have bet it??
  
  How the fuk is he supposed to "guess" at which lines & wagers the S-Book will honor and which ones they won't honor?
  
  I don't think I will ever send another dime to one of these cheating devil S-Books. But I KNOW I won't if they think I am the one that is responsible for knowing which lines that THEY fuk-ked up on!
  And if I bet a line that THEY fuk-ked up on, then they will tell me it was my fault because I should have known which lines they fuk-ked up on and I shouldn't have bet them?
  
  Holy sheit man at the absurdity of that!!
  
  In that idiotic & ridiculous farcical case, I'd be waiting on them to steal the money on ANY bet that I won and then tell me it was my fault & I shouldn't have bet it because I "should have known" that they had screwed up the line!
  
  How ridiculously stupid is that?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  How in the hell could somebody get on here and tell that poster that he was "taking a shot" and he "should have known" not to make a bet when he sent his money to the place to make fuk-king bets on the lines that they put out for him to bet on??
  
  Yeah right! These devil S-books need all the help they can get from dumbasses like that who side with THEM after THEY fuk a line up!!
  
  LOL OOOOH You wager has it at + 7.5 and bovada has it at + 6.5 !!! Ah hell, I shouldn't make that bet and take the extra point because I "should somehow know" that they have made a mistake on the line & it is a "bad line".
  
  LOL What a fuk-in idiotic joke!
  
  
  
  

[JoeCool20]

Originally Posted by RemRoos
Obviously many people must have taken advantage of this at this point "bad line" and I must admit myself I could also not resist to wager some more, so I placed some more bets starting from 8:02 PM.

What is funny about seeing a line and then liking the odds and then betting it? Who says it was a "bad line"? Why are you "assuming" that with no facts to back it up? Maybe your computer fuk-ked the score up & the game WAS still tied. Maybe they had someone bet the losing team AFTER the run was scored and they needed action on the other side so they didn't change it.

Who the fuk WOULD "resist the urge to wager more"? Aren't we there to bet what lines we think are going to win? Who the fuk WOULDN'T "wager some more" if they saw a line that they thought was in their favor?

What is the other option? Say to yourself: "I sent money in to bet & win, and I LOVE these odds, but I'm not going to bet what I think is a winner because I'm going to take it upon myself to 'assume' the line is a mistake."

LOL now THAT absurdity deserves three of these!

[cx89]

@JoeCool20

Hey man we get your point, but endlessly posting hostility won't help anyone even if people agree with you. People know what books are doing, whether they side with unprofessional punters or the book.

My biggest gripe is that SBR is basically gate keeping for them with zero transparency. All these complaints, if they were suppose to act as some type of safeguard for punters should be available for everyone to see. If "x" bookmaker gets 10 complaints in a month and even if they were all not warranted people should at least be able to see what is the most common conflicts a bookmaker has with it's customer base.

It would solve two problems, people would know what is acceptable and books would be encouraged to seek a middle ground more often in order to reduce the appearance of never addressing punters reoccurring gripes.

As it is right now, if a book pays you at the end nothing is ever disclosed from SBR. There a ton of smaller issues which if are complained about are almost treated as if you signed up for the abuse , deal with it pal. These can range from verbal abuse from books in chat, threats of financial retaliation regarding your own money, and just plain taking shots at players who are not sophisticated to know not to bet something at -120 when it should be -180.

In the end this is entertainment for most of us, yet it seems like the books go out of their way to treat us like trash. Hope it stops.

[TheMoneyShot]

you insinuating that it is up to the client or bettor to somehow "KNOW" (maybe with a crystal ball I guess? LOL) which lines are "bad" and refrain from betting them is now the most absurd thing that I have ever read!

LOL You've got to be kidding!!

Crystal ball? lol OP knew what the score was... he admitted the line was bad. (Still put more money on it.) He couldn't resist.

1st grader sh#$

[JoeCool20]

Crystal ball? lol OP knew what the score was... he admitted the line was bad. (Still put more money on it.) He couldn't resist.

1st grader sh#$

LOL Those sportbooks need all the help they can get don't they.
This guy COULDN'T have "known" that a book had a wrong line out!! He just THOUGHT that something was wrong.
Try to read what else I posted. I have no idea why he said he "knew" something that NONE of us know, EXCEPT the book that cheated him! They are the only one's that know if it was a mistake, or not a mistake!
He doesn't KNOW anything! Maybe B-online got a million in action EVEN THOUGH the other team scored, so they left the line the way it was on purpose, AND THEN later they cheated everybody who bet it and won. You don't know if that's what they did or not, but you will still bash the guy for betting something when the WHOLE DAMN WEB SITE is there for fuk-ing betting!!!

How the fuk can WE PLAYERS ever "admit" that a line was bad when THEY are the one's putting the lines out! If I had seen it, and I thought it was good odds, then I would have put my whole balance on the sheit! Then if they stole it from me I'd say "Why the hell did you make it available to bet on if you weren't going to pay out on it?"

[JoeCool20]

Crystal ball? lol OP knew what the score was... he admitted the line was bad. (Still put more money on it.) He couldn't resist.

1st grader sh#$

LOL How the fuk is the player supposed to know which of all the posted lines that they SHOULD or SHOULDN'T bet on?

EVERY fuk-ing bet we make we think we have good odds and we are going to win!! Or we wouldn't bet it!

So you are saying that the next time I see a line with odds that I love & I think it is going to win, then I SHOULD RESIST betting it? LOL

Or if one book has the line at -170 and another has it at -200, then I should bet the -200 line and resist betting the -170 line because I should somehow "know" that the -170 is a "bad line."

Look how dumb and imbecilic that would be! See how I think you have GOT to be kidding??!!

[JoeCool20]

@JoeCool20

Hey man we get your point, but endlessly posting hostility won't help anyone even if people agree with you. People know what books are doing, whether they side with unprofessional punters or the book.

My biggest gripe is that SBR is basically gate keeping for them with zero transparency. All these complaints, if they were suppose to act as some type of safeguard for punters should be available for everyone to see. If "x" bookmaker gets 10 complaints in a month and even if they were all not warranted people should at least be able to see what is the most common conflicts a bookmaker has with it's customer base.

It would solve two problems, people would know what is acceptable and books would be encouraged to seek a middle ground more often in order to reduce the appearance of never addressing punters reoccurring gripes.

As it is right now, if a book pays you at the end nothing is ever disclosed from SBR. There a ton of smaller issues which if are complained about are almost treated as if you signed up for the abuse , deal with it pal. These can range from verbal abuse from books in chat, threats of financial retaliation regarding your own money, and just plain taking shots at players who are not sophisticated to know not to bet something at -120 when it should be -180.

In the end this is entertainment for most of us, yet it seems like the books go out of their way to treat us like trash. Hope it stops.

Right buddy, like I said, these people siding with the book are incredibly naive to me! We don't know if the line was "bad" or not! Because they only said it was AFTER they were supposed to pay the winners! How many people WEREN'T psychics and DIDN'T somehow know or think the line was "bad"? How many people didn't know the score had changed and they didn't "think" they were getting better odds?
We don't know ANY of this! All we know is that they cheated the people who bet AND they cheated people who bet BEFORE the score changed!!

How far back did they go and cheat winners out of their wins? The guy said they stole his money on the bet BEFORE they scored any runs!!

How far did they go back and how many peoples' money did they steal that really bet when the game WAS tied?

How the fuk can people side with the sportsbook cheating people when they have all that info?
It's pretty wild to me!

[jtoler]

Originally Posted by RemRoos
Obviously many people must have taken advantage of this at this point "bad line" and I must admit myself I could also not resist to wager some more, so I placed some more bets starting from 8:02 PM.




What is funny about seeing a line and then liking the odds and then betting it? Who says it was a "bad line"? Why are you "assuming" that with no facts to back it up? Maybe your computer fuk-ked the score up & the game WAS still tied. Maybe they had someone bet the losing team AFTER the run was scored and they needed action on the other side so they didn't change it.

Who the fuk WOULD "resist the urge to wager more"? Aren't we there to bet what lines we think are going to win? Who the fuk WOULDN'T "wager some more" if they saw a line that they thought was in their favor?

What is the other option? Say to yourself: "I sent money in to bet & win, and I LOVE these odds, but I'm not going to bet what I think is a winner because I'm going to take it upon myself to 'assume' the line is a mistake."

LOL now THAT absurdity deserves three of these!

ur so cool

[JoeCool20]

**"Hey man we get your point, but endlessly posting hostility won't help anyone even if people agree with you. People know what books are doing, whether they side with unprofessional punters or the book."**


LOL I don't mind "posting hostility" or replying to every post! It is all a joke to me.

Especially people on here telling someone else that they "should know" which lines that a S-book accepts wagers on are "Good" and which lines are "bad". And not bet the ones that they think are "bad"!!

[jtoler]

**"Hey man we get your point, but endlessly posting hostility won't help anyone even if people agree with you. People know what books are doing, whether they side with unprofessional punters or the book."**


LOL I don't mind "posting hostility" or replying to every post! It is all a joke to me.

Especially people on here telling someone else that they "should know" which lines that a S-book accepts wagers on are "Good" and which lines are "bad". And not bet the ones that they think are "bad"!!

Did you not read the part where he said he knew and also said when it was 0-0 the odds were -125 and stayed at -125 without updating after a score of 2-0. Anybody who bets know the odds would move then, anybody. He knew, Ive seen betonline slow with updates before, not 5 minutes more in the seconds range.

[JoeCool20]

Did you not read the part where he said he knew and also said when it was 0-0 the odds were -125 and stayed at -125 without updating after a score of 2-0. Anybody who bets know the odds would move then, anybody. He knew, Ive seen betonline slow with updates before, not 5 minutes more in the seconds range.

LOL Once again you are making this too easy. Neither "anyone that bets" or You, or him, knows that the line "should" have changed! Because you aren't the ones that put the line out to bet on! betonline made the odds and opened the wagering, so he bet it. Then they cheated him out of the winnings. So b-online are the only one's that know whether they meant to leave the line there or not. Maybe they had a reason. Maybe they didn't. But to tell a player that sent his money in to bet lines that they "should have known" which lines to bet and which lines to NOT bet is an absurd stretch!

And quite honestly, everybody has an opinion so who cares if we differ in opinions!!

But If you think that it is up to the PLAYER to determine which lines are "good" and which lines are bad, out of ALL the lines that are open for wagering, and NOT bet the ones that they like out of fear that they might later turn out to be "bad lines".... LOL then I'd probably just end it and say I didn't believe you would be that obtuse.

[cx89]

The complaint I sent to SBR dealt with pre-game odds. Not only that, I also sent BM at the time of dispute a list of odds on the said game, and their odds were the absolute worst possible odds being given. Out of 20 other bookmakers offering odds, the line I hit (Pre-Game) was actually the most juiced out of any other books offerings.

They said it was a bad line, despite being one of the worst odds available and simply would not honor my wager.

As for JoeCool20 - I appreciate that your up front about your intentions, and not deceiving anyone who might read this that you should be taken seriously. (Even though I doubt anyone does at this point)

There are people who have been effected by this behavior not just on live betting, but also on smaller markets where they just free roll their customers, which happened to me. I personally have been lurking these forums for a long time, and a factor in my decision to play at these books was the reassurance players had some recourse however limited, provided to them by SBR complaint system.

I am sure there are people who appreciate the knowledge that SBR complaints are ineffective, before making the decision to hand over their money to unscrupulous organizations.

[jtoler]

LOL Once again you are making this too easy. Neither "anyone that bets" or You, or him, knows that the line "should" have changed! Because you aren't the ones that put the line out to bet on! betonline made the odds and opened the wagering, so he bet it. Then they cheated him out of the winnings. So b-online are the only one's that know whether they meant to leave the line there or not. Maybe they had a reason. Maybe they didn't. But to tell a player that sent his money in to bet lines that they "should have known" which lines to bet and which lines to NOT bet is an absurd stretch!

And quite honestly, everybody has an opinion so who cares if we differ in opinions!!

But If you think that it is up to the PLAYER to determine which lines are "good" and which lines are bad, out of ALL the lines that are open for wagering, and NOT bet the ones that they like out of fear that they might later turn out to be "bad lines".... LOL then I'd probably just end it and say I didn't believe you would be that obtuse.

either you dont actually bet baseball or bet period, but all lines change when a score is made, doesnt matter how big the odds were at some point or not. since he was looking at the screen and he said it didnt update, he probably noticed the total didnt update either. it'd be nice if you were trolling but something tells me youre not. Ive had worse things happen when betting live, brought it here, and wasnt looking for help or file a complaint just input from others, sadly most if not all sided with the book it was pathetic. Im not even siding with the book here neither the player which he doesnt even care about the bet in question only his first bet when the score was 0-0, but if you can show me a portal where the odds dont change after a score Id like to see it in any sport let alone baseball.

[dlowilly]

It always amuses me when people defend BetOnline



Also, if there is any dispute, it will always go in favor of BetOnline.

[JoeCool20]

**"As for JoeCool20 - I appreciate that your up front about your intentions, and not deceiving anyone who might read this that you should be taken seriously. (Even though I doubt anyone does at this point)"**


Sorry they cheated you. Did people on SBR start siding with the book and saying it was somehow your fault? LOL That's all I don't get!

And Nah bro, I'm not saying I shouldn't be taken seriously. Quite the opposite. I just meant that it is "all a joke to me" because I don't give a sheit about any of it. I'm not mad or ill at any reply to my posts. I'm just postin & readin replies! it don't make a damn to me!

Hell I know these devil S-book places are the biggest cheats in the world. & They hold ALL the cards & you HAVE to abide by whatever amount they cheat you out of with NO recourse! I'm like you, I thought SBR was out to help people, but now I plainly see what side their bread is buttered on! That one guy runs up under EVERY negative post about a S-book that pays to advertise on here and quickly makes a post that "takes up for" and sides with the book. When he ain't got a damn clue what really happened! (He will probably reply to you and say he DOESN'T think these S-books that advertise on here will "free roll their customers"!! LOL)

One thing that IS as serious as possible is that I'd never believe anybody who says that it should be up to the PLAYER to determine which lines are "good" and which lines are bad, out of ALL the lines that are open for wagering, and NOT bet the ones that they like out of fear that they might later turn out to be "bad lines".... LOL I'd never believe anybody would be that obtuse.

Because then we'd have to look at ALL the lines and then ONLY bet the one's that we thought were well in favor of the book! We could NEVER bet a line that we thought we were getting good odds on! Because we'd be afraid we were "disrespecting" the book by betting a "bad line!"


NOBODY could be serious about doing that!!

[TheMoneyShot]

It always amuses me when people defend BetOnline



Also, if there is any dispute, it will always go in favor of BetOnline.

All time classic here.

Not defending BOnline....

OP took a SHOT knowing "common odds" knowledge of the game. He admitted he took a chance.

Not much more to talk about.

As for JoeCool... everyone knows "common odds" knowledge of the game... and if you don't know what that is.... then you shouldn't be wagering.

[JoeCool20]

either you dont actually bet baseball or bet period, but all lines change when a score is made, doesnt matter how big the odds were at some point or not. since he was looking at the screen and he said it didnt update, he probably noticed the total didnt update either. it'd be nice if you were trolling but something tells me youre not. Ive had worse things happen when betting live, brought it here, and wasnt looking for help or file a complaint just input from others, sadly most if not all sided with the book it was pathetic. Im not even siding with the book here neither the player which he doesnt even care about the bet in question only his first bet when the score was 0-0, but if you can show me a portal where the odds dont change after a score Id like to see it in any sport let alone baseball.

I can accept that! (Except that you say I "don't bet baseball" or I "don't bet period." LOL You don't know ANYTHING about whether that statement is true or not!!)
JUST like when you say: "all lines change when a score is made." LOL Unless YOU are the one making them, then you don't know that for sure, and you are just "assuming" things. You have no idea why they MIGHT have left the line the same on purpose or whether it was a mistake. So don't keep assuming that you do have an idea!
(Unless you want to! And In that case, Then keep on assuming! LOL I don't give a sheit!)

But if you can show me a instance where I sent money in to a place so I could view lines and then bet the one's I like, and then somebody tells me that I "should have known not to bet that line" because it was a "bad line". Then I'll call total Bull-sheit on that sheit!

Saying it is supposed to be up to ME (the player) to avoid betting some particular lines that I "should have known" were bad lines is totally outrageous & absurd. That would mean I'd NEVER be able to bet a line that I liked, because instead I'd have to think the book made a mistake and it was a "bad line!" LOL So I would only bet the lines that I was SURE the book had the advantage on out of fear that otherwise they'd say the line was bad and steal my money back!!
And also for the ONE simple reason of that they could Steal my money from ANY bet they wanted to and say WHATEVER line they wanted to was a "bad line and I should have known not to bet it!"

Then I could never win and I could only lose!

What are you going to do now? Side with the book again and say that the book would never do that to anyone and they'd only steal back peoples' winnings on the lines that were REALLY & TRULY bad? LOL

Just look at how unfair & absurd that is!!

[jtoler]

I dont think you understand the situation here. Again ALL moneylines change when a score changes. Whatever youre talking about is something different. We all bet here, if what youre saying is true show me one person who agrees with it. I dont have to make the lines to know they change when a score is made I watch numerous portals every day for years, havent seen it not happen. And no its hard to believe you bet live if you dont know this otherwise there is some kind of comprehension element going on with your posts.

[JoeCool20]

Aw crap! Naw buddy, I just don't say I "know" anything if I really don't know it!!!

Stop trying to say you KNOW something to be factual when you DON'T. (OR keep on! I don't care!)

MAYBE ALL live lines have moved on a score, maybe they haven't. But you sure as hell don't KNOW it for sure because you weren't at all the places putting out live lines!!

I promise I was going to post to please not make this stupid and change it to start arguing about whether you KNOW what a sports-book does to lines when you really don't know, but I was too late! If you start saying that you KNOW something that we BOTH know that you DON'T know, then for the second time, I just won't believe that you are really that obtuse!!

Unless you have seen EVERY single line change when somebody scores, then you DON'T know that they all have changed for sure! Of course a VERY high percentage of them PROBABLY did, but you don't know for sure that ALL of them did!

Please Don't make it anymore than that and SURELY don't keep posting that you KNOW something that you really DON'T know!! That's absolute foolishness and a waste of time!

[JoeCool20]

Hell I'll tell you what! If you post that somehow you think you KNOW that EVERY live line has changed after somebody scored, then I'll bet you 5 grand that you really DON'T know that for sure! (And I will win immediately because you don't know that for sure, and then we can get back to what the original post is about!)

But if you did win, then guess what? I'm the bookie, so I say it was a "bad line" and you "should have known it was a bad line" and therefore you should have avoided betting it, so I'm going to not pay you!

LOL Now YOU will be saying: "How the hell do you have the right to tell me what I 'should have known' about certain lines that you let me bet on in the first place!!"

Now we might be getting somewhere! & That's ALL I've been trying to say is that no book should be able to STEAL back winnings from a bet and tell a player that HE shouldn't have bet it because he should be the one that knows which lines are "good" and which lines are "bad"!!
Don't change it to some dumb sheit about you saying you KNOW about EVERY single live line ever offered has changed when somebody scored because we both know you really don't know!

Hell the whole fuk-in thread is about the line NOT changing after somebody scored! So you are wrong IMMEDIATELY!!

But if you keep the foolishness up about the "We" sheit and the "show me one person who agrees with it" sheit. Then I'll just stop replying! You have no idea what other people would say!

I might say that everybody on here EXCEPT YOU would not make a foolish statement and say they KNEW anything that they really DIDN'T know for sure!

I know I'd NEVER say that I KNEW every single live line had changed after a score!! Simply because everybody would know that I really DIDN'T know it for sure!

Damn it now you got me posting about the dumb sheit! LOL

[JoeCool20]

I dont think you understand the situation here. Again ALL moneylines change when a score changes. Whatever youre talking about is something different. We all bet here, if what youre saying is true show me one person who agrees with it. I dont have to make the lines to know they change when a score is made I watch numerous portals every day for years, havent seen it not happen. And no its hard to believe you bet live if you dont know this otherwise there is some kind of comprehension element going on with your posts.

LOL Dude the whole fuk-in thread is about the line NOT changing after somebody scored! So you are wrong IMMEDIATELY! YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THAT QUICK!

What are you going to change it to now? that you know the line is supposed to change after a score? LOL Please don't!!

[Gaze73]

They should claim the "bad line" defense whenever a +400 dog wins because obviously it should've been the favorite. As for taking shots, they're tempting because there's a 15% they'll pay out. I once bet on a japanese baseball game that was basically over and won a couple of hundred a few minutes later.

[JoeCool20]

All time classic here.

Not defending BOnline....

OP took a SHOT knowing "common odds" knowledge of the game. He admitted he took a chance.

Not much more to talk about.

As for JoeCool... everyone knows "common odds" knowledge of the game... and if you don't know what that is.... then you shouldn't be wagering.

LOL I remember that quote from a guy who said: "Try to picture yourself as another person sitting on a bench across from you listening to what you are saying. What would you think about yourself?"
I wish you would take a look at the sheit you are spewing out!!
The dude CAN'T "admit" to "taking a shot" when it is something that he doesn't know for sure!! He saw a team score and waited for the next live line to come out and then he bet it! NONE of us know for sure whether B-online purposely left the line the way it was and then cheated everybody that bet on it out of their winnings or not! What the fuk was he supposed to do call them up BEFORE he bet & ASK them if they were SURE about the line they had offered up for betting on? LOL OK then WHEN would he NOT call them up & ask them that before he bet? When he was sure that the odds were "common odds?" LOL COME ON MAN! Stop being a moron! It ain't up to the PLAYER to try & figure out which odds he thinks are "common odds" and which one's ain't!

But you make sure & keep on "taking up" for those poor sports-books now OK?! They need all the help they can get!

Buddy, since you DO know the "common odds" then DON'T EVER make a bet on a line that you like! Don't ever make a bet unless you know the house has an advantage, or you will be "taking a shot at them!" LOL Can't you see how stupid that makes you look?

Saying it is supposed to be up to the player to avoid betting some particular lines that he "should have known" were bad lines is totally outrageous & absurd. That would mean the player would NEVER be able to bet a line that he liked, because instead he'd have to think the book made a mistake and it was a "bad line!" LOL So the player would only bet the lines that he was SURE the book had the advantage on, out of fear that otherwise they'd say the line was "bad" and steal his money back!!

That is the dumbest thing on earth for the ONE simple reason of that they could Steal the money back from ANY bet they wanted to and say WHATEVER line they wanted to was a "bad line" and "the player should have known not to bet it!"

Then we could never win and we could only lose!

Just look at how unfair & absurd that is!!

What are you going to do now? Side with the book again and say that these great & terrific S-books would never do that to anyone, and they'd only steal back peoples' winnings on the lines that were REALLY & TRULY bad? LOL


Or no wait, let me guess, you will say that the wonderful & honest S-books would only steal the money back on bets that the player should have known WEREN'T "common odds"!!

My gosh at the sheit people come up with on here to side with the damn S-books!!

[JoeCool20]

They should claim the "bad line" defense whenever a +400 dog wins because obviously it should've been the favorite. As for taking shots, they're tempting because there's a 15% they'll pay out. I once bet on a japanese baseball game that was basically over and won a couple of hundred a few minutes later.

EXACTLY! You aren't the fukin odds-maker! You didn't send money into the place to be expected to "guess" or figure out which lines were "bad" and which lines were "good"! You are the PLAYER who sent money in to bet on the lines that THEY posted for you to bet on!!!
Why the fuk WOULDN'T you bet on a game that you thought was going to win if the book had put out a line and allowed you to bet on it!! Are you instead supposed to appoint yourself the "judge of the lines" and decide which ones are "good" to bet on and which ones are "bad" lines? LOL My word at the absurdity of that!

I don't understand some of these goof-balls on here saying that the PLAYER should be responsible for trying to "figure out which lines are bad" and know that he shouldn't bet them!!
What the fuk did we players do? Go to odds-makers school so we could spot a "bad line" at 500 paces? LOL Geez at the stupidity of it!!

Along the lines of some of these imbeciles' posts, they'd only bet lines that they DIDN'T think were any good! LOL
They'd NEVER bet a game that they thought would cover by 30 points because that would make it a "bad line" & therefore they shouldn't have tried to "take a shot" and bet it against the poor S-book!

[dealer wins]

In an ideal world all bets booked should be paid even if the odds are completely wrong, and every sportsbook should lay to lose $5000 on bets as a minimum etc etc

But if that was the case there would be no sportsbooks lol

[TheMoneyShot]

LOL I remember that quote from a guy who said: "Try to picture yourself as another person sitting on a bench across from you listening to what you are saying. What would you think about yourself?"
I wish you would take a look at the sheit you are spewing out!!
The dude CAN'T "admit" to "taking a shot" when it is something that he doesn't know for sure!! He saw a team score and waited for the next live line to come out and then he bet it! NONE of us know for sure whether B-online purposely left the line the way it was and then cheated everybody that bet on it out of their winnings or not! What the fuk was he supposed to do call them up BEFORE he bet & ASK them if they were SURE about the line they had offered up for betting on? LOL OK then WHEN would he NOT call them up & ask them that before he bet? When he was sure that the odds were "common odds?" LOL COME ON MAN! Stop being a moron! It ain't up to the PLAYER to try & figure out which odds he thinks are "common odds" and which one's ain't!

But you make sure & keep on "taking up" for those poor sports-books now OK?! They need all the help they can get!

Buddy, since you DO know the "common odds" then DON'T EVER make a bet on a line that you like! Don't ever make a bet unless you know the house has an advantage, or you will be "taking a shot at them!" LOL Can't you see how stupid that makes you look?

Saying it is supposed to be up to the player to avoid betting some particular lines that he "should have known" were bad lines is totally outrageous & absurd. That would mean the player would NEVER be able to bet a line that he liked, because instead he'd have to think the book made a mistake and it was a "bad line!" LOL So the player would only bet the lines that he was SURE the book had the advantage on, out of fear that otherwise they'd say the line was "bad" and steal his money back!!

That is the dumbest thing on earth for the ONE simple reason of that they could Steal the money back from ANY bet they wanted to and say WHATEVER line they wanted to was a "bad line" and "the player should have known not to bet it!"

Then we could never win and we could only lose!

Just look at how unfair & absurd that is!!

What are you going to do now? Side with the book again and say that these great & terrific S-books would never do that to anyone, and they'd only steal back peoples' winnings on the lines that were REALLY & TRULY bad? LOL


Or no wait, let me guess, you will say that the wonderful & honest S-books would only steal the money back on bets that the player should have known WEREN'T "common odds"!!

My gosh at the sheit people come up with on here to side with the damn S-books!!

You waste a lot of time in your life don't you? Never seen so much typing on a topic that is so easily viewed as "game set match."

OP knew what the score was.... and he knew the line should of changed. He admitted he took a shot.

Your defense on some sort of psychological merry-go-round on what a line should be is Mickey Mouse sh#$.

There's nothing to discuss here. OP took a shot... and he was wrong in doing so.

[ZINISTER]

Good Post! Bump

[RemRoos]

You waste a lot of time in your life don't you? Never seen so much typing on a topic that is so easily viewed as "game set match."

OP knew what the score was.... and he knew the line should of changed. He admitted he took a shot.

Your defense on some sort of psychological merry-go-round on what a line should be is Mickey Mouse sh#$.

There's nothing to discuss here. OP took a shot... and he was wrong in doing so.

You seem to miss the point....I'm not complaining about the "bad line" wager being cancelled.
Only about the valid bet which was placed 8 minutes earlier at a 0-0 score.

So far I've not had much success emailing with BOL. First email: "sir your stakes have already been refunded" totally ignoring everything I said in the previous email. Then second email "sir your ticket will stand graded as a loss"....which is not even true cause it's a cancellation. They don't even seem to read emails, judging from their replies.

[TheMoneyShot]

You seem to miss the point....I'm not complaining about the "bad line" wager being cancelled.
Only about the valid bet which was placed 8 minutes earlier at a 0-0 score.

So far I've not had much success emailing with BOL. First email: "sir your stakes have already been refunded" totally ignoring everything I said in the previous email. Then second email "sir your ticket will stand graded as a loss"....which is not even true cause it's a cancellation. They don't even seem to read emails, judging from their replies.

It's called principle. Your original wager may of been a valid wager. (We really don't know because your credibility is poor.) But, because your intentions were clearly shown placing higher stakes on a bad line.... BOnline did what they had to do. Try pulling that sh#$ on Tony at 5Dimes. Your acct would of been closed.

Not trying to bust your balls man... but a shot taker is a cheat. Plain and simple. If you can't win in an honest fashion while placing a wager... find another hobby.

[Optional]

You seem to miss the point....I'm not complaining about the "bad line" wager being cancelled.
Only about the valid bet which was placed 8 minutes earlier at a 0-0 score.

So far I've not had much success emailing with BOL. First email: "sir your stakes have already been refunded" totally ignoring everything I said in the previous email. Then second email "sir your ticket will stand graded as a loss"....which is not even true cause it's a cancellation. They don't even seem to read emails, judging from their replies.

Sounds like it is time to send in your complaint form. I am not certain if SBR can get a change of mind or not but if you are being stonewalled by first line CS at least we can get it in front a manager to look at for you.

[cx89]

@Optional

Are you going to ever address my complaint which I know you have, or is it necessary to start a new thread where I post all the chats logs about the dispute?

I'm not even looking for the money that they stole at this point, but merely a follow up email about the situation regardless of outcome from SBR would suffice. I hope that isn't unreasonable.

[milwaukee mike]

i'm wondering why the initial $1000 live bet was made at -125... did they get a couple guys on base right before the bet? i would love to see the live odds history and exactly what was going on in the game

at least for me at betonline there is a waiting timer in case something changes or their line wasn't where they wanted it to be