What is the best way to use a freeplay bonus at bookmaker?

**Peep** · 02-08-09, 01:04 AM

I will not do a straight bet b/c that is the worst thing you can do. I done it my first time maybe 1.5 years ago and felt dumb. I don't want to just put it on a +500 ML dog b/c i want some cash out of the $200 fp.

I would do what you don't want to do. Find a +500 ML dog and play it. If it loses, it loses, feel like you want. If it wins, it wins, doesn't make you any smarter. It is mostly just about getting max leverage for you play.

If that doesn't work for you, and you want "cash", just make 8 $25 bets and you should win 4 of them, you get $100 back on the average (more or less) for you $200 match play.

**cinpls081** · 02-08-09, 02:02 PM

First off the best way to maximize your winnings is to make 8 3 team parlays in your case it would be for 25 dollars. Its a round rob with 3 games. Every possible bet you will have to win one of the 8 bets 25 pays 150. The thing is they don't let you do that anmore. The best way to maximize your betpoints is to bet say 200 on the celtics at bookmaker and 100 on a different site. In this case if you win at bookmaker you will have 200 extra in your account and will lose 100 at another shop for a net of 100 dollars. if you lose the free play you will have 100 dollars at another shop. The fact is free play = half the value of real money.

**BigDaddy** · 02-08-09, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Peep

I would do what you don't want to do. Find a +500 ML dog and play it. If it loses, it loses, feel like you want. If it wins, it wins, doesn't make you any smarter. It is mostly just about getting max leverage for you play.

If that doesn't work for you, and you want "cash", just make 8 $25 bets and you should win 4 of them, you get $100 back on the average (more or less) for you $200 match play.

bet 8 straight bets for $25 are you serious?

that is terrible advice

**Peep** · 02-08-09, 03:08 PM

Yeah, it is terrible advice.

But if the guy doesn't want to bet parlays or big ML's, what else is left?

**BigDaddy** · 02-08-09, 03:08 PM

if they still allow 2 team parlays then i would play 2 teams parlays

a straight bet using free play money is the worst way to use it. unless you are betting a big dog ML and the fav ML at a different book.

**Peep** · 02-08-09, 03:10 PM

BTW, I don't think you can bet parlays with the free bet. I tried today and while it says you can in the rules, the "bet free play" window didn't come up for me when I tried to bet a parlay.

**DIF** · 02-08-09, 03:12 PM

2 words from me.
stay away.

**BigDaddy** · 02-08-09, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Peep

BTW, I don't think you can bet parlays with the free bet. I tried today and while it says you can in the rules, the "bet free play" window didn't come up for me when I tried to bet a parlay.

i haven't used any free play forever so i don't know what they allow anymore but i take your word for it

he has no choice then to bet a big dog ML and then cover the other side at a solid book if he cant do that he is stuck betting it on a straight bet

they have really turned those bet points into shit lately but they have also really screwed players over with a lot of things lately transfer fees LOL!

**Vfire** · 02-08-09, 03:29 PM

why don't you just back something and then lay it off on a betting exhange that way you should get 80% of it back

sorry just read original post ignore please.

**durito** · 02-08-09, 03:29 PM

i bet free plays with parlays at bookmaker yesterday without issue

**Peep** · 02-08-09, 03:30 PM

Thanks Durito. Maybe I missed the box, will try again. I was doing six team round robins lol.

**Peep** · 02-08-09, 03:40 PM

Yep, I must have missed the box. It just now let me bet a four teamer for $5 (I just picked some random teams, the secret "cat's footprints" method) and it went through.

This being the case, these matchplays being given out by bookmaker are a very nice offering indeed.

**TLD** · 02-08-09, 05:10 PM

I think the software will allow free play parlays but not round robins.

For round robins, you have to tediously enter each parlay individually.

**dynamite140** · 02-08-09, 11:03 PM

Can someone tell me how to do the round robins on bookmaker?

**trixtrix** · 02-08-09, 11:10 PM

jesus christ, do you have this much difficulty thinking a bit on your own? i'm going to go slow here so you can finally stop posting this thread in every other forum

find a game w/ no possible pushes, ie both spread and total ends on a hook (.5)

example: team A +10.5 vs. team B -10.5, Total over/under 200.5

you parlay 50 on team A +10.5/ over 200.5
parlay 50 on team B -10.5/ over 200.5
parlay 50 on team A +10.5/ under 200.5
parlay 50 on team B -10.5/ under 200.5

then: stop making multiple threads regarding the same issue, stop risking funds that you cannot afford to lose

**note: this is NOT the optimal method, to do better you must parlay more teams and cover every possible scenario as outlayed above, 3 teamers w/ 8 possible scenarios or 4 teamers w/ 16 possible scenarios are better candidates, just use the reasoning above and extrapolate

**dynamite140** · 02-09-09, 01:59 AM

trix, I am going to do the 3 teamer way. When i do this at bookmaker, it gives me two options. One is 1 parlay of 3 and the other is a round robin combination 3 parlays of 2 teams. I am pretty certain it is the 1st option right? Reason i ask is the person who posted how to do the 8 parlays did mention round robin. I have no clue what a round robin is.

Is just doing 8 team parlays with 8 scenarios the right way but with round robin? Ugggh i am confusing myself now and don't know if i might confuse u here.

thanks.

**Fizzz** · 02-09-09, 07:22 AM

In a round robin, you have all possible combinations with parlays. In this case, you would be risking the same amount for all of the parlays, where as in a regular parlay you are just risking an amount once for one single combination of teams.

**dynamite140** · 02-09-09, 08:30 AM

fizz, can i just manually do 8 parlays instead?

**cinpls081** · 02-09-09, 09:30 AM

NO you can't do a RR parlay with free play the saoftware doesn't allow. Free play = 50% real cash. Just bet whatever game you want. MAKE sure its one with a HALF point as ties LOSE and bet the other side for half the amount somewhere else. NO ML no RR parlays. GL

There is no other way to maximize this amount its not possible unless you bring risk into it. Use it IN game and you can most likly get = on both sides..if you have multiple outs if not you are out of luck just bet it and hope for the best..

**konck** · 02-09-09, 10:12 AM

Bet a 2 team parlay for the whole amt it really is the best deal . You can make a score and use there money twice that way.

**Fizzz** · 02-09-09, 10:18 AM

Konck is right, a parlay is the best way to. Sure you can make several parlays in the while you do not exceed the limit of the line or the limit for the game. Be that as it may.... I am just to lazy to make 8 full parlays... and every one of them different as in a round robin

**fathead** · 02-09-09, 10:36 AM

Just divide your freeplay balance by 8, that is your bet size. Bet all 8 combinations of a 3 team parlay, making sure they are all half point lines so there are no pushes. This is an automatic cash out 75 cents on the dollar. So if you had a 900 dollar freeplay balance, you won $675 on your parlay.

**smoke a bowl** · 02-09-09, 10:37 AM

I would just smoke a bowl.

**Spanks** · 02-09-09, 06:50 PM

free plays are for suckers...10 times rollover and then some for most books...you take a freeplay it also stops many books from dolling out any payouts until the requirements are met...I never take freeplays...it aint worth it...

**cinpls081** · 02-09-09, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by fathead

Just divide your freeplay balance by 8, that is your bet size. Bet all 8 combinations of a 3 team parlay, making sure they are all half point lines so there are no pushes. This is an automatic cash out 75 cents on the dollar. So if you had a 900 dollar freeplay balance, you won $675 on your parlay.

although you are 100% correct the software will not allow you to do this.

As far as free plays being for suckers? Not if you are sharp

**dynamite140** · 02-09-09, 10:41 PM

cinpls081, i did this at bookmaker and it worked. Althought i didn't get me 75 percent. It got me around 74 % b/c bookmaker pays 595 for every 100 wagered instead of the normal 600.

**gym rat** · 02-10-09, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by fathead

Just divide your freeplay balance by 8, that is your bet size. Bet all 8 combinations of a 3 team parlay, making sure they are all half point lines so there are no pushes. This is an automatic cash out 75 cents on the dollar. So if you had a 900 dollar freeplay balance, you won $675 on your parlay.

Can this method be done at DSI?? Anybody can confirm that it has been used recently??

**fathead** · 02-10-09, 12:28 PM

I have done this for years at CRIS, BookMaker. I also tried it at Bet Jamaica for a freeplay I had and it worked. DSI has the same software as CRIS and BookMaker so it should work.

**cinpls081** · 02-10-09, 12:42 PM

it doesn't work trust me. at least for me it doesn't work. I've tried and it won't except the second bet. You are 100% in the best way to maximize your freeplay but it won't allow.

For him the best thing to do is bet both sides of the game

**durito** · 02-10-09, 12:49 PM

it works just fine.

**Slim** · 02-10-09, 12:53 PM

This is why I like to play at books like Intertops and Bodog. They give you the bonus is str8 cash. Made a deposit at Intertops for the Super Bowl and got a 20% cash bonus. $500 deposit and got $100. More books should be like them. I hate these greedy books like Betjamaica and Bookmaker. Only reason I even play at Bookmaker is for the overnight lines that Intertops and Bodog doesn't have in ncaab. If you want to transfer to another book from bookmaker you can forget about it the fees are the worst in the business. And the "new and improved" loyalty program is the worst. Its only improved for the benefit of bookmaker not the player. What a bunch of fukkin crooks.

**blackbart** · 02-10-09, 01:41 PM

Basic Free Plays Rules: 1. Free Plays can only be wagered on: Football (NFL / NCAA) Basketball (NBA / NCAA / WNBA) Major League Baseball, NHL and SOC.2. They can be used only on straight wagers, parlays and teasers. 3. When a customer wins a free play, he receives the win amount only. 4. Ties lose. 5. Free play wagers must be used online and not via our call center. 6. They expire after 30 days. 7. All free plays are subject to a rollover requirement which varies according to the promo. 8. Maximum payout for any FREE Play is $5000. 9. Maximum bonus awarded is $500. 10. Free Plays can only be used on major sports and cannot be used on prop bets. For football and basketball, free plays can be applied to spread lines and totals; money lines are not allowed. Not allowed on Team totals. On MLB and NHL you can use it on the Spread, Moneyline and Total.Exception for this rule is the 3 way line in Hockey.

**blackbart** · 02-10-09, 01:45 PM

ymmv

**blackbart** · 02-10-09, 01:46 PM

"6. They expire after 30 days."

mine are still there, after at least 60 days, i am using them now.