diamond's new loyalty program

[CS-Cedrick]

Give CS a call, they'll be able to do the exchange for you sir.

[thebertshow]

I placed a $2000 bet on the Mavs last night at +150. Today I got 947 BetPoints. That may have been left over from before. I'm not sure about that.

Didn't that bet alone used to be worth 2000 points? It looks like the points have gotten harder to get and when you get them they are much less valuable.

[CS-Cedrick]

I placed a $2000 bet on the Mavs last night at +150. Today I got 947 BetPoints. That may have been left over from before. I'm not sure about that.

Didn't that bet alone used to be worth 2000 points? It looks like the points have gotten harder to get and when you get them they are much less valuable.

CS will be able to determine what exactly happened there, it might either be the bet class (teaser, parlay, straight) or, it might have been a moneyline, those don't give you any points, only sides and totals.

[thebertshow]

It was a moneyline. Straight bet on a side. +150. So you're saying I would only have gotten points for betting the pointspread which was a worse bet and not the bet I wanted. Not a very good system IMO.

What have you got against moneylines? It's a legitimate bet.

[magnavox]

(...) or, it might have been a moneyline, those don't give you any points, only sides and totals.

And that is what I was pointing out earlier in the thread. Not only value was significantly cut, but betting options got limited as well. That's poor.

[Lucas]

It was a moneyline. Straight bet on a side. +150. So you're saying I would only have gotten points for betting the pointspread which was a worse bet and not the bet I wanted. Not a very good system IMO.

What have you got against moneylines? It's a legitimate bet.

there is a new history of the points and there are listed bets and points for those bets (click loyalty programm - left menu)

if you have say 100,000 betpoints, you can call and get 10 $150 free plays

3 times 10000 for a $50 freeplay

guys i do not know what you are talking about... for me
10K pts = $125 Freeplay
that is neither 150 nor 50

cedrick, now the PM should be ok

as we bitch here over cris, one thing is nice: no log off for me, same as greek

[Mudcat]

It looks like the points have gotten harder to get and when you get them they are much less valuable.

That pretty much sums it up.

[RonPaul2008]

guys i do not know what you are talking about... for me
10K pts = $125 Freeplay
that is neither 150 nor 50

Wow, then it's different for different people....10k = 150 here.

[RonPaul2008]

as we bitch here over cris, one thing is nice: no log off for me, same as greek

Are you kidding? CRIS logs out pretty fast here.

[LMAOFISH]

Note: Moneyline wagers on NFL, NBA, NCAA football and basketball will NOT be awarded BetPoints™. Wagers on soccer, 3-way hockey lines, tennis, golf, NASCAR, boxing, MMA, handball, volleyball, cricket, international basketball, international baseball, props, and futures, will be awarded ½ BetPoint per unit currency wager.


This is such BS. Most of my bets are moneylines and alot of them are soccer. I can't believe neither count. Not only that, but you are stealing the value of points altogether. Do moneylines and soccer bets at least still count for deposit freeplay rollover? If not, I'll never play at this trash "A" book again.

Cedric, I hope you can see why this program is not a good idea (in terms of pissing players off).


Yes at least Cris doesn't log me out either, but DSI and Bookmaker sure do real fast.

[Peep]

Are we supposed to get these things automatically? Cause I don't have any, just an "error" message.

And if I do manage to get them, what are they worth as a percentage of gross bet? one percent, 1/2 percent, more/less?

[Mudcat]

Do moneylines and soccer bets at least still count for deposit freeplay rollover? If not, I'll never play at this trash "A" book again.

Lord gawd, don't give them any ideas.

[Frank]

there is no option on the webpage. you can only redeem for the new stuff

Click "Go to Old Site" and check there

[RonPaul2008]

As late as about an hour ago you were ale to go to the old site and make the free play request online, but now that option has been removed. Would I be right in saying that you now have to call in these free plays (during the remaining portion of the 2 week grace period) in order to get the free plays CS-CEDRICK? It would be nice if they would just leave the option on the old site during the grace period.

[HedgeHog]

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[d2bets]

Points seem to be worth a little less, but I'm sure some people will appreciate the extra options and choices for the points. The airline miles thing may be interesting for people who use that. 100,000 betpoints basically gets you a free airline ticket. It's nice to have a non-betting account redemption option.

[LMAOFISH]

How do those miles work? I see 10,000 miles is like 50k points for me. A trip from Toronto, Canada- Sydney Australia is 9600miles or so. Could I do this? That's a 1250$ plane ticket usually, this could be great value. I'm pretty sure that's not how it works though.

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Hrrrm with 20c lines I'll have to have a think whether it's still worth keeping a balance in here. The points meant I did before, not so sure it's worth it now.

[durito]

Hrrrm with 20c lines I'll have to have a think whether it's still worth keeping a balance in here. The points meant I did before, not so sure it's worth it now.

Trust me, they are going to take away your points entirely eventually. Sooner rather than later would be my guess.

I'm not sure there's a huge reason otherwise to play there for non-usa players.

[frostno98]

lol, just reedeem $20 dollars from bookmaker, thought about getting the hat at first.

[WileOut]

Actually this new BetPoints system is really good because if you get 1 level up to the Platinum level, you get 2 free payouts per month, any method you choose, without having to use any betpoints. So you can get 2 free FedEx checks per month, 1 free FedEx check and 1 free MoneyGram payout, 1 free MoneyGram and 1 free Western Union payout, etc. Bank Wires are the only method not included.

Again, at Platinum status you get 2 free payouts per month, any method you choose. You don't have to use any betpoints for these payouts either.

If you want more than 2 free payouts per month, on the 3rd payout you can use your betpoints now for FedEx and MoneyGram payouts.

This payout feature probably more than makes up for the loss of value of the points themselves as far as freeplays, etc. are concerned. We are talking between $100-$120 a month here without even using your betpoints (2 payouts would cost 100-120 bucks).

I have played there since September, don't place too many bets and am Platinum status. So its not hard to achieve this. I have also won mid 4 figures in that time period as well so they obviously don't kick all winning players out.

[Thremp]

Trust me, they are going to take away your points entirely eventually. Sooner rather than later would be my guess.

I'm not sure there's a huge reason otherwise to play there for non-usa players.

Wat?

[RonPaul2008]

The fact that they are giving a 2 week grace period on this shows that they are an honest, fair book. Also, they pay in the time frame they say they do...even if it's a bit slow.
Also, they don't limit too many people.

[Fizzz]

Also to give my man Cedrick a lil help with the new loyalty program (cuz it seems that everyone teamed up against him) remember that you are not only getting points for cash. Platinum customers can get up to 4 free payouts (2 fixed free pos a month and 2 for points additionally). Now you can choose the method of the free payout (any but the bank wire).
Then remember that the new program grants you with CASH, which if your bet pushes, it gets returned to your account. Forget that rule that ties lose. That is only for bonuses.

Also for high rollers, they have the dedicated CS only for themselves, they can request as many point exchanges as they like, not only 3 a day or more than 1000 in free play. Diamond players can get up to 8 free payouts, but that is just plain crazy.
New customers that play a fair amount, can request 1 free fixed po every 30 days with an additional for points (around 6000 if I recall correctly).

[tomcowley]

None of this makes up for the cut in value. Ooooh look at the shiny new options that we could have paid for with freeplay winnings (and had money left over) but never did because we had better uses for the money. I guess anybody who's staying platinum for long didn't get there through rational analysis though, so A++ to bookmaker for successfully marketing a polished turd.

[xxxvince]

i like them first i thought damn cool t shirts but getting the money back is way better options. u can get better t shirts for cheaper than the price, the t shirts are just black with a small logo on them. their gift t shirts and jackets are not worth the price. GET THE CASH BACK.

[CS-Cedrick]

Also to give my man Cedrick a lil help with the new loyalty program (cuz it seems that everyone teamed up against him) remember that you are not only getting points for cash. Platinum customers can get up to 4 free payouts (2 fixed free pos a month and 2 for points additionally). Now you can choose the method of the free payout (any but the bank wire).
Then remember that the new program grants you with CASH, which if your bet pushes, it gets returned to your account. Forget that rule that ties lose. That is only for bonuses.

Also for high rollers, they have the dedicated CS only for themselves, they can request as many point exchanges as they like, not only 3 a day or more than 1000 in free play. Diamond players can get up to 8 free payouts, but that is just plain crazy.
New customers that play a fair amount, can request 1 free fixed po every 30 days with an additional for points (around 6000 if I recall correctly).

This guy knows! Thanks for the support sir and welcome to SBR forum.

[Kindred]

DSI sucks on every level

[Kindred]

i like them first i thought damn cool t shirts but getting the money back is way better options. u can get better t shirts for cheaper than the price, the t shirts are just black with a small logo on them. their gift t shirts and jackets are not worth the price. GET THE CASH BACK.

why not play at matchbook or 5 dimes and get even MORE cash back via lower juice?

[Mudcat]

None of this makes up for the cut in value. Ooooh look at the shiny new options that we could have paid for with freeplay winnings (and had money left over) but never did because we had better uses for the money. I guess anybody who's staying platinum for long didn't get there through rational analysis though, so A++ to bookmaker for successfully marketing a polished turd.

Yeah that's about it.

I don't want to take shots at DSI. It would make a lot more sense to take shots at books that offer nothing of the sort - and there are plenty of those - than a book that has simply scaled back their generosity a bit.

But I saw enough polishing of turds in the recent US elections to last me for a good long time.

[katstale]

lololol I get so confused looking in this thread. I saw talk of how they treat "high rollers" in the new program. Whats up with that? I thought if you were a high roller (non-rec player) you didn't even get talked to. Much less get a piece of this program.

I think if you make it to high roller status, you will know it--not by "platinum status" but by the fact that your points will be reset to zero (like mine) and it will stay there. lol

[durito]

lololol I get so confused looking in this thread. I saw talk of how they treat "high rollers" in the new program. Whats up with that? I thought if you were a high roller (non-rec player) you didn't even get talked to. Much less get a piece of this program.

I think if you make it to high roller status, you will know it--not by "platinum status" but by the fact that your points will be reset to zero (like mine) and it will stay there. lol

By "high roller" I presume they mean large losing bettors.

[katstale]

By "high roller" I presume they mean large losing bettors.

I can count on you to clear up these issues for me. Now I understand how you can "high roll" and remain in the program.

[Fizzz]

High rollers as in ppl who get a lot of points in a year that is so... most of pros leave parlays, spreads and totals away from their wagers and focus on $lines, which do not give any points at all in nba, ncaa and nfl or sumthin' like that

[RonPaul2008]

So this can be done until February 7th?

You'll have 2 more weeks for that, the same way you nused to do it, contacting CS or on the website.