BetRevolution Scam: Sportsbook winnings confiscated for Syndicate Betting

**PD77** · 04-06-13, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by stevex

Just made a deposit to BetRev for a 100% bonus...

Business as usual for me.

I noticed the 100% match , about the same time this thread popped up. No way in hell I play at this place anymore if they can pull bullshit like this.

**Fishhead** · 04-07-13, 03:01 AM

The JJGOLD departure coupled with the BI fiasco has crippled SBR drastically...........

**Sports Scientist** · 04-07-13, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by tto827

And posts like this begin the rush to remove funds that ultimately bury a book.

One thing that Betrev has done to *not* deserve this fate would be....?

**tto827** · 04-07-13, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by Sports Scientist

One thing that Betrev has done to *not* deserve this fate would be....?

I could give a fuk about betrev but you can't forget there are other clients who would have been paid that could get stiffed.

Plus it seems less and less like peeig is completely innocent in this.

**Smoke** · 04-07-13, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by darkhat

can you imagine filing a complaint and when asked where your funds are you have to say betlatina?

You can't make this stuff up

**darkhat** · 04-07-13, 09:39 AM

I have evidence that supports someone at betrevolution once logged into my SBR account

**Peeig** · 04-08-13, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by raydog

did they pay peeiq his 22k ish? and they dont want to pay the expected beards? is that where this stands?

I have NOT been paid 22k.............they still owe me 22,908

**raydog** · 04-08-13, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by Peeig

I have NOT been paid 22k.............they still owe me 22,908

i gotcha, i just didnt want to read 5 pages of the same stuff, thats why i asked...best of luck...hopefully they will try to save whats left of their ass and take care of you guys.

**McFly86** · 04-08-13, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by darkhat

I have evidence that supports someone at betrevolution once logged into my SBR account

What?

**Smoke** · 04-08-13, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by darkhat

I have evidence that supports someone at betrevolution once logged into my SBR account

**tropolis** · 04-08-13, 12:53 PM

the truth is betrev is for small rec players and cant afford to pay out money like that.

**Sports Scientist** · 04-08-13, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by tropolis

the truth is betrev is for small rec players and cant afford to pay out money like that.

nor can they afford to pay out $500 from a contest win

they are angle shooting twats who are trying to screw over everyone they can

**touchback** · 04-08-13, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

The JJGOLD departure coupled with the BI fiasco has crippled SBR drastically...........

I would add Justin7 departure as well, I liked E...

**touchback** · 04-08-13, 03:57 PM

Syndicate betting is very hard to prove now with the difficulty of actually confirming IPs with the new proxies being used that are randomly swapped out within days, cloakers and all the mobile smart phone IPs as well as newer decptive location hiders few even know about yet. I could route an IP throujgh 4 IP proxies and good luck telling me my true origin... so good luck with this angle. If a book thinks there is collusion they have to give a warning and then watch the action. If they are still bothered they need to close the accounts and pay them off...

**shari91** · 04-08-13, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by touchback

I would add Justin7 departure as well, I liked E...

Beautiful. So make your choice... either SBR knew the book was going down or your fave mod didn't. Even with having a massive balance there. So if you think he knew, he was f'ng people over. (Not what I think) If you think he didn't know, then he's useless.

See how stupid this is getting? This is NOT about BI. Seriously you people are throwing ppl under the bus that I imagine you're not intending to.

GL Peeig.

**touchback** · 04-08-13, 04:27 PM

Correction... I did not mean SBR was going down... should of made that clear. I just think J7 was a great mathematician and arbitrator for players and was a valuable asset to SBR. JJ was good for sh1ts and giggles, what can I say... BI is a different animal and I do not think SBR knew until the backend (maybe 4 to 6 weeks)but could not say anything for fear of a run and or torpedoing a possible bailout, thats why I call it a tiger by the tale. Hard to let go and hard to hang on but kinda fkd either way. Books go broke, nothing new... and when they were promoted they were paying so no one can really complain about 95% of the longevity of the business since it was an almost instantaneous meltdown at the end.

**touchback** · 04-08-13, 04:32 PM

Justin 7 knew that the business model was unsustainable... that is a fact that I know for a fact. Did he know how deep in the red they were, probably not. I beleive there was much deception from JON about the true numbers to everyone.... including affiliates, SBR, backers, other owners and generally evryone...

**darkhat** · 04-08-13, 04:32 PM

Betrevolution finally rules for sure they will not pay

BetRevolution statement

Dear EOG members,

Since we open our doors to the general public four years ago we've worked nonstop to offer our new members the quality of service we've being offering long time before that to our inner circle. We decided we wanted to provide a new option where players will be treated as part of a company, members of a business where you will be dealt with respect and dignity. We have welcome with open arms any player whose goal is to have fun and enjoy a friendly betting experience.

Our members can testify they've always receive our full attention, we listen to their complaints, to their feedback and to their positive comments. It is being our best interest to let them guide our development and it has being our first objective to be above the rest on our transparency on our journey.

But we knew there will be a sector of the community that will see this as a new opportunity, a new search for loopholes and shortcuts. A path to take advantage of the good will of a business benefits, software and rules. Many good people started their dreamed business on the industry with high hopes and the right intentions, regrettably we all have seen how those have ended because of a few bad apples on a large group of honest and legit players.

We have paid special attention to document all our terms, conditions and rules on our signup process, bonuses, rollovers, deposits, withdrawals, etc. we've always done our best to follow the information we have available to the public and we have always used them as a guideline when dealing with any kind of difference with our members, we know we need to setup a path that they can understand as our standard operational guide for decisions just like in any other business. You cannot signed up nor accept any of our offerings without accepting these terms.

EOG welcomed us when we open up our doors to extend our membership, We have dealt through the years with many managers, forum coordinators and members. They've being extremely supportive and helpful on countless occasions and their work for the community they drive is nothing else than exceptional.

Their concern for the current situation is completely understandable, and justified, they've being working around the clock to come to an agreement on how to resolve the current situation, but our point of disagreement always ends on the same area.

We understand the current status quo on the forums is to allow actions like the ones we suffered and if discovered to let them go without prejudice.

We DO NOT believe in that, if we do not enforce the rules we have in place, we are simply allowing and fomenting the continuation of a culture on our industry that accepts violating the rules on both sides of the sidewalk to be a fair play.

We are a business and it is our main objective to protect the members and investors of it. The Revolution is not only a name, it is the entire mentality of our organization and we are working to try to get rid of a stigma that many refuse to leave behind and keeps the good honest players and companies in shadows.

EOG is a business too and they need to look up for their best interest and the one of the community they have and we came to appreciate. We have enjoyed being part of the EOG family for all these years, but we have decided to step down from being a proud EOG sponsor and give a rest to all those members who support us and endure the rough edges of the community.
We want to thank all the members who has shown us their signs of support, via email, phone, chats and forums. It is because of you the Revolution makes sense and will be there for you back at BetRevolution.com.

Thank you all.
BetRevolution

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As requested, this is the report listing of our Anti Fraud and Collusion system.

All the duplicate wagers between Player 2 and Player 1. Listing doesn't include all duplicate lines done via pivoting on multiple teaser selections.

Risk balance is defined by general 500 or 250 limits. Adjusted automatically depending on odd and win and risk selection.

Duplicate cancelled transactions were removed.

*The report on second half wager count was counted manually and it was incorrectly reported by the marketing team. There are 13 second half wagers within 0-3 minutes of each other.
======================================== ======================================== =

Line
bet type. acct. risk. placed date.

Tulane FH o27 EV.
straight. Player 2. 500. 9/29/12 11:04 AM
straight. Player 1. 250. 9/29/12 10:55 AM

Colorado FH o30½-110
straight. Player 2. 550. 9/29/12 11:37 AM
straight. Player 1. 275. 9/29/12 11:17 AM

Alabama FH o27.5-110
straight. Player 2. 400. 9/29/12 11:42 AM
straight. Player 1. 250. 9/29/12 11:21 AM

New England Patriots FH u24.5-110
straight. Player 2. 402. 9/29/12 11:42 AM
straight. Player 1. 250. 9/29/12 11:40 AM

Toledo FH u28.5 EV
straight. Player 2. 450. 9/29/12 6:09 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 9/29/12 5:39 PM

Carolina Panthers FH +4-110
straight. Player 2. 550. 9/30/12 12:00 PM
straight. Player 1. 275. 9/30/12 12:20 PM

Kansas City Chiefs FH +.5 EV
straight. Player 2. 500. 9/30/12 12:33 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 9/30/12 12:34 PM

Detroit Lions SH -200
straight. Player 2. 1000. 9/30/12 2:29 PM
straight. Player 1. 500. 9/30/12 2:26 PM

Carolina Panthers SH +3 EV
straight. Player 2. 500. 9/30/12 2:40 PM
straight. Player 1. 500. 9/30/12 2:41 PM

Kansas City Chiefs SH PK-120
straight. Player 2. 600. 9/30/12 2:50 PM
straight. Player 1. 300. 9/30/12 2:52 PM

East Carolina SH u23½ EV
straight. Player 2. 232. 10/4/12 9:37 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 10/4/12 9:41 PM

Arizona Cardinals FH u17½+110
straight. Player 2. 500. 10/4/12 8:21 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 10/4/12 8:40 PM

Bayern Munich G -2-140
straight. Player 2. 350. 10/4/12 8:36 AM
straight. Player 1. 350. 10/4/12 9:17 AM

Miami (OH) FH o30 EV
straight. Player 2. 500. 10/6/12 2:30 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 10/6/12 2:27 PM

Ohio State FH o28-110
straight. Player 2. 550. 10/6/12 4:28 PM
straight. Player 1. 275. 10/6/12 4:28 PM

FC Barcelona G PK-240
straight. Player 2. 600. 10/7/12 8:36 AM
straight. Player 1. 600. 10/7/12 9:12 AM

Seattle Seahawks FH u21½-110
straight. Player 2. 550. 10/7/12 11:28 AM
straight. Player 1. 275. 10/7/12 10:50 AM

Minnesota Vikings FH -190
straight. Player 2. 950. 10/7/12 11:32 AM
straight. Player 1. 475. 10/7/12 11:34 AM

New England Patriots FH -190
straight. Player 2. 950. 10/7/12 11:32 AM
straight. Player 1. 475. 10/7/12 11:34 AM

Malaga G u2½+110
straight. Player 2. 250. 10/7/12 1:40 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 10/7/12 9:12 AM

Green Bay Packers SH -½-110
straight. Player 2. 550. 10/7/12 2:43 PM
straight. Player 1. 275. 10/7/12 2:43 AM

Arizona State SH -11-105
straight. Player 2. 525. 10/11/12 10:37PM
straight. Player 1. 262. 10/11/12 10:38AM

Mississippi FH -2.5 -110
straight. Player 2. 550. 10/13/12 11:34AM
straight. Player 1. 275. 10/13/12 10:43AM

Wisconsin SH PK EV
straight. Player 2. 500. 10/13/12 1:40 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 10/13/12 1:40 PM

Stanford SH u20½-110
straight. Player 2. 550. 10/13/12 5:11 PM
straight. Player 1. 275. 10/13/12 5:10 PM

Cincinnati Bengals FH u21.5 -115
straight. Player 2. 575. 10/14/12 10:01 AM
straight. Player 1. 287. 10/14/12 10:36 AM

Cleveland Browns G +8-110 (B+6)
San Francisco 49ers G -1-110 (B+6)
Washington Redskins G +7½-110 (B+6)
teaser. Player 2. 500. 10/14/12 12:32 PM
teaser. Player 1. 250.

Miami Dolphins FH o18-105
straight. Player 2. 525. 10/14/12 11:14 AM
straight. Player 1. 262. 10/14/12 11:19 AM

Seattle Seahawks FH o21 -115
straight. Player 2. 575. 10/14/12 10:15 AM
straight. Player 1. 287. 10/14/12 11:11 AM

New England Patriots SH PK-115
straight. Player 2. 575. 10/14/12 5:37 PM
straight. Player 1. 287. 10/14/12 5:38 PM

Eastern Michigan FH +½ EV
straight. Player 2. 500. 10/20/12 10:39 AM
straight. Player 1. 250. 10/20/12 10:42 AM

FC Lorient G PK+150
straight. Player 2. 250. 10/20/12 1:28 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 10/20/12 1:24 PM

Rice FH u31½-115
straight. Player 2. 575. 10/20/12 2:52 PM
straight. Player 1. 287. 10/20/12 3:15 PM

Kentucky SH o27½-115
straight. Player 2. 575. 10/20/12 8:41 PM
straight. Player 1. 287. 10/20/12 8:44 PM

Idaho SH +11-110
straight. Player 2. 550. 10/20/12 8:49 PM
straight. Player 1. 275. 10/20/12 8:51 PM

New Orleans Saints G -1-110
straight. Player 2. 550. 10/21/12 12:56 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 10/21/12 12:16 PM

Dallas Cowboys G -3 +110
straight. Player 2. 500. 10/21/12 10:53 AM
straight. Player 1. 250. 10/21/12 12:56 PM

Wisconsin SH -1½-110
straight. Player 2. 500. 10/27/12 04:57 PM
straight. Player 1. 275. 10/27/12 04:57 PM

Carolina Panthers G +7½-110
straight. Player 2. 550. 10/28/12 12:13 PM
straight. Player 1. 275. 10/28/12 11:06 AM

Miami Dolphins G +7½-110 (B+6)
Seattle Seahawks G +9-120 (B+6)
Atlanta Falcons G +9-125 (B+6)
teaser. Player 2. 500. 10/28/12 11:32 AM
teaser. Player 1. 250. 10/24/12 10:19 PM

San Diego Chargers G -3+105
straight. Player 2. 500. 10/28/12 12:59 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 10/28/12 12:20 PM

Tennessee Titans SH PK+115
straight. Player 2. 500. 10/28/12 2:36 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 10/28/12 2:39 PM

San Diego Chargers G -1-110 (B+6)
Indianapolis Colts G +7½-110 (B+6)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers G +7½-110 (B+6)
teaser. Player 2. 500. 11/1/12 8:03 PM
teaser. Player 1. 250. 11/1/12 7:31 PM

Arsenal FC G +1-125
straight. Player 2. 312. 11/3/12 6:43 AM
straight. Player 1. 312. 11/3/12 7:18 AM

Texas A&M FH u31-115
straight. Player 2. 575. 11/3/12 11:26 AM
straight. Player 1. 287. 11/3/12 11:28 AM

Minnesota FH o23-105
straight. Player 2. 525. 11/3/12 11:37 AM
straight. Player 1. 287. 11/3/12 11:46 AM

Illinois FH u27-115
straight. Player 2. 575. 11/3/12 11:46 AM
straight. Player 1. 287. 11/3/12 11:47 AM

Philadelphia Eagles G +3-110
straight. Player 2. 550. 11/5/12 8:39 PM
straight. Player 1. 275. 11/5/12 8:35 PM

San Francisco G +13½-110
straight. Player 2. 275. 11/9/12 7:44 PM
San Francisco G +16½-170 (B+3)
straight. Player 1. 425. 11/9/12 7:50 PM

Schalke 04 G o3-130
straight. Player 2. 325. 11/10/12 07:45 AM
straight. Player 1. 325. 11/10/12 08:52 AM

Cagliari G PK-180
straight. Player 2. 450. 11/10/12 11:33 AM
straight. Player 1. 450. 11/10/12 11:32 AM

Tulsa FH u34-105
straight. Player 2. 262. 11/10/12 3:02 PM
straight. Player 1. 262. 11/10/12 2:55 PM

Miami Dolphins G +9-125 (B+6)
Dallas Cowboys G -2-110 (B+6)
Denver Broncos G -1½-110 (B+6)
teaser. Player 2. 250. 11/15/12 8:20 PM
teaser. Player 1. 250. 11/14/12 7:12 AM

Cincinnati Bengals G -2½-110 (B+6)
Chicago Bears G -½-110 (B+6)
Miami Dolphins G +9-115 (B+6)
teaser. Player 2. 250. 11/25/2012 9:56 AM
teaser. Player 1. 250. 11/25/12 11:59 AM

New Orleans Saints G +8½-110 (B+6)
Philadelphia Eagles G +9-120 (B+6)
Green Bay Packers G +9-120 (B+6)
teaser. Player 2. 250. 11/25/12 11:05 AM
teaser. Player 1. 250. 11/25/12 12:02 PM

Tampa Bay Buccaneers G -1-115 (B+6)
Minnesota Vikings G +9-125 (B+6)
Pittsburgh Steelers G -1½-110 (B+6)
teaser. Player 2. 250. 12/9/12 10:47 AM
teaser. Player 1. 250. 12/9/12 10:49 AM

Cleveland Browns G -3+115
straight. Player 2. 250. 12/02/12 4:22 PM
straight. Player 1. 250. 12/02/12 3:51 PM

Sam Houston State University G -3-110
straight. Player 2. 275. 12/15/12 12:57 PM
straight. Player 1. 275. 12/15/12 12:49 PM

Baltimore Ravens G +9-125 (B+6)
Miami Dolphins G -1-115 (B+6)
Minnesota Vikings G +9-125 (B+6)
teaser. Player 2. 250. 12/16/12 12:52 PM
teaser. Player 1. 250. 12/16/12 12:13 PM

New Orleans Saints G +9-130 (B+6)
Houston Texans G -2-110 (B+6)
San Diego Chargers G +9-125 (B+6)
teaser. Player 2. 250. 12/23/12 12:17 PM
teaser. Player 1. 250. 12/23/12 6:59 AM

Chicago Bears G -1 EV (B+6)
San Francisco 49ers G +9-130 (B+6)
Baltimore Ravens G +8-110 (B+6)
teaser. Player 2. 250. 12/23/12 12:20 PM
teaser. Player 1. 250. 12/23/12 7:09 AM

(BAL at SF) How many successful 3 point field goals will be kicked in the game? Total u3½-120
straight. Player 2. 300. 2/3/13 12:50 PM
straight. Player 1. 300. 2/3/13 12:53 PM

**darkhat** · 04-08-13, 04:33 PM

pure robbery

**touchback** · 04-08-13, 04:40 PM

This might mean alot more than just what you see on the surface.... this is a big move.

**shari91** · 04-08-13, 04:49 PM

Wow.

No one I know running the EOG would support that move . But.... to all of you there with cash, good luck! And no tennis plays for you wanks because I don't want to be accused of being a syndicate at 365 xo

**darkhat** · 04-08-13, 04:59 PM

Yah EOG pulled their banner

if anyone has money pull it out

clearly they are choosing to destroy their entire reputation over 27k..

**Santo** · 04-08-13, 05:04 PM

Without going into the facts of the case (the list of identical wagers is posted in another thread, and makes interesting reading), the 27k risk = little to no money argument is a bit tricky.

Think about the DDOS attacks we saw in the past, rather than a wagering dispute. If you pay the DDOSers off every time, you get peace for a bit, but they hit you next time they need some money. A similar principle exists with sportsbook disputes; if this book, or any book, believes they are in the right, then paying somebody who has scammed you leads down the same path; there's no reason for others not to do the same.

As I say, a general point rather than specific to this case.

**Santo** · 04-08-13, 05:06 PM

Well, you can see why that betting history might raise suspicion, assuming it's true. There's a bunch of fairly obscure bets in there.

However, if the argument is they were getting tips from the same guy, that's to be expected. Did those involved compare that list to a forum thread on 2+2 or similar?

**darkhat** · 04-08-13, 05:07 PM

Here are the identical wagers.. it took me a while to remove their usernames a billion times

they left off the ones that weren't identicial of course, and yo ucan see they let them play since football season etc

As requested, this is the report listing of our Anti Fraud and Collusion system.
All the duplicate wagers between behnke and peeige. Listing doesn't include all duplicate lines done via pivoting on multiple teaser selections.
Risk balance is defined by general 500 or 250 limits. Adjusted automatically depending on odd and win and risk selection.
Duplicate cancelled transactions were removed.
*The report on second half wager count was counted manually and it was incorrectly reported by the marketing team. There are 13 second half wagers within 0-3 minutes of each other.
======================================== ==================== =========================

Line
bet type. acct. risk. placed date.

Tulane FH o27 EV.
straight. XXX. 500. 9/29/12 11:04 AM
straight. XXX. 250. 9/29/12 10:55 AM

Colorado FH o30½-110
straight. XXX. 550. 9/29/12 11:37 AM
straight. XXX. 275. 9/29/12 11:17 AM

Alabama FH o27.5-110
straight. XXX. 400. 9/29/12 11:42 AM
straight. XXX. 250. 9/29/12 11:21 AM

New England Patriots FH u24.5-110
straight. XXX. 402. 9/29/12 11:42 AM
straight. XXX. 250. 9/29/12 11:40 AM

Toledo FH u28.5 EV
straight. XXX. 450. 9/29/12 6:09 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 9/29/12 5:39 PM

Carolina Panthers FH +4-110
straight. XXX. 550. 9/30/12 12:00 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 9/30/12 12:20 PM

Kansas City Chiefs FH +.5 EV
straight. XXX. 500. 9/30/12 12:33 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 9/30/12 12:34 PM

Detroit Lions SH -200
straight. XXX. 1000. 9/30/12 2:29 PM
straight. XXX. 500. 9/30/12 2:26 PM

Carolina Panthers SH +3 EV
straight. XXX. 500. 9/30/12 2:40 PM
straight. XXX. 500. 9/30/12 2:41 PM

Kansas City Chiefs SH PK-120
straight. XXX. 600. 9/30/12 2:50 PM
straight. XXX. 300. 9/30/12 2:52 PM

East Carolina SH u23½ EV
straight. XXX. 232. 10/4/12 9:37 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/4/12 9:41 PM

Arizona Cardinals FH u17½+110
straight. XXX. 500. 10/4/12 8:21 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/4/12 8:40 PM

Bayern Munich G -2-140
straight. XXX. 350. 10/4/12 8:36 AM
straight. XXX. 350. 10/4/12 9:17 AM

Miami (OH) FH o30 EV
straight. XXX. 500. 10/6/12 2:30 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/6/12 2:27 PM

Ohio State FH o28-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/6/12 4:28 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/6/12 4:28 PM

FC Barcelona G PK-240
straight. XXX. 600. 10/7/12 8:36 AM
straight. XXX. 600. 10/7/12 9:12 AM

Seattle Seahawks FH u21½-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/7/12 11:28 AM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/7/12 10:50 AM

Minnesota Vikings FH -190
straight. XXX. 950. 10/7/12 11:32 AM
straight. XXX. 475. 10/7/12 11:34 AM

New England Patriots FH -190
straight. XXX. 950. 10/7/12 11:32 AM
straight. XXX. 475. 10/7/12 11:34 AM

Malaga G u2½+110
straight. XXX. 250. 10/7/12 1:40 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/7/12 9:12 AM

Green Bay Packers SH -½-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/7/12 2:43 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/7/12 2:43 AM

Arizona State SH -11-105
straight. XXX. 525. 10/11/12 10:37PM
straight. XXX. 262. 10/11/12 10:38AM

Mississippi FH -2.5 -110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/13/12 11:34AM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/13/12 10:43AM

Wisconsin SH PK EV
straight. XXX. 500. 10/13/12 1:40 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/13/12 1:40 PM

Stanford SH u20½-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/13/12 5:11 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/13/12 5:10 PM

Cincinnati Bengals FH u21.5 -115
straight. XXX. 575. 10/14/12 10:01 AM
straight. XXX. 287. 10/14/12 10:36 AM

Cleveland Browns G +8-110 (B+6)
San Francisco 49ers G -1-110 (B+6)
Washington Redskins G +7½-110 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 500. 10/14/12 12:32 PM
teaser. XXX. 250.

Miami Dolphins FH o18-105
straight. XXX. 525. 10/14/12 11:14 AM
straight. XXX. 262. 10/14/12 11:19 AM

Seattle Seahawks FH o21 -115
straight. XXX. 575. 10/14/12 10:15 AM
straight. XXX. 287. 10/14/12 11:11 AM

New England Patriots SH PK-115
straight. XXX. 575. 10/14/12 5:37 PM
straight. XXX. 287. 10/14/12 5:38 PM

Eastern Michigan FH +½ EV
straight. XXX. 500. 10/20/12 10:39 AM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/20/12 10:42 AM

FC Lorient G PK+150
straight. XXX. 250. 10/20/12 1:28 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/20/12 1:24 PM

Rice FH u31½-115
straight. XXX. 575. 10/20/12 2:52 PM
straight. XXX. 287. 10/20/12 3:15 PM

Kentucky SH o27½-115
straight. XXX. 575. 10/20/12 8:41 PM
straight. XXX. 287. 10/20/12 8:44 PM

Idaho SH +11-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/20/12 8:49 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/20/12 8:51 PM

New Orleans Saints G -1-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/21/12 12:56 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/21/12 12:16 PM

Dallas Cowboys G -3 +110
straight. XXX. 500. 10/21/12 10:53 AM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/21/12 12:56 PM

Wisconsin SH -1½-110
straight. XXX. 500. 10/27/12 04:57 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/27/12 04:57 PM

Carolina Panthers G +7½-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/28/12 12:13 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/28/12 11:06 AM

Miami Dolphins G +7½-110 (B+6)
Seattle Seahawks G +9-120 (B+6)
Atlanta Falcons G +9-125 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 500. 10/28/12 11:32 AM
teaser. XXX. 250. 10/24/12 10:19 PM

San Diego Chargers G -3+105
straight. XXX. 500. 10/28/12 12:59 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/28/12 12:20 PM

Tennessee Titans SH PK+115
straight. XXX. 500. 10/28/12 2:36 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/28/12 2:39 PM

San Diego Chargers G -1-110 (B+6)
Indianapolis Colts G +7½-110 (B+6)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers G +7½-110 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 500. 11/1/12 8:03 PM
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/1/12 7:31 PM

Arsenal FC G +1-125
straight. XXX. 312. 11/3/12 6:43 AM
straight. XXX. 312. 11/3/12 7:18 AM

Texas A&M FH u31-115
straight. XXX. 575. 11/3/12 11:26 AM
straight. XXX. 287. 11/3/12 11:28 AM

Minnesota FH o23-105
straight. XXX. 525. 11/3/12 11:37 AM
straight. XXX. 287. 11/3/12 11:46 AM

Illinois FH u27-115
straight. XXX. 575. 11/3/12 11:46 AM
straight. XXX. 287. 11/3/12 11:47 AM

Philadelphia Eagles G +3-110
straight. XXX. 550. 11/5/12 8:39 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 11/5/12 8:35 PM

San Francisco G +13½-110
straight. XXX. 275. 11/9/12 7:44 PM
San Francisco G +16½-170 (B+3)
straight. XXX. 425. 11/9/12 7:50 PM

Schalke 04 G o3-130
straight. XXX. 325. 11/10/12 07:45 AM
straight. XXX. 325. 11/10/12 08:52 AM

Cagliari G PK-180
straight. XXX. 450. 11/10/12 11:33 AM
straight. XXX. 450. 11/10/12 11:32 AM

Tulsa FH u34-105
straight. XXX. 262. 11/10/12 3:02 PM
straight. XXX. 262. 11/10/12 2:55 PM

Miami Dolphins G +9-125 (B+6)
Dallas Cowboys G -2-110 (B+6)
Denver Broncos G -1½-110 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/15/12 8:20 PM
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/14/12 7:12 AM

Cincinnati Bengals G -2½-110 (B+6)
Chicago Bears G -½-110 (B+6)
Miami Dolphins G +9-115 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/25/2012 9:56 AM
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/25/12 11:59 AM

New Orleans Saints G +8½-110 (B+6)
Philadelphia Eagles G +9-120 (B+6)
Green Bay Packers G +9-120 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/25/12 11:05 AM
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/25/12 12:02 PM

Tampa Bay Buccaneers G -1-115 (B+6)
Minnesota Vikings G +9-125 (B+6)
Pittsburgh Steelers G -1½-110 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/9/12 10:47 AM
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/9/12 10:49 AM

Cleveland Browns G -3+115
straight. XXX. 250. 12/02/12 4:22 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 12/02/12 3:51 PM

Sam Houston State University G -3-110
straight. XXX. 275. 12/15/12 12:57 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 12/15/12 12:49 PM

Baltimore Ravens G +9-125 (B+6)
Miami Dolphins G -1-115 (B+6)
Minnesota Vikings G +9-125 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/16/12 12:52 PM
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/16/12 12:13 PM

New Orleans Saints G +9-130 (B+6)
Houston Texans G -2-110 (B+6)
San Diego Chargers G +9-125 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/23/12 12:17 PM
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/23/12 6:59 AM

Chicago Bears G -1 EV (B+6)
San Francisco 49ers G +9-130 (B+6)
Baltimore Ravens G +8-110 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/23/12 12:20 PM
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/23/12 7:09 AM

(BAL at SF) How many successful 3 point field goals will be kicked in the game? Total u3½-120
straight. XXX. 300. 2/3/13 12:50 PM
straight. XXX. 300. 2/3/13 12:53 PM

**Smoke** · 04-08-13, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by darkhat

Here are the identical wagers.. it took me a while to remove their usernames a billion times

they left off the ones that weren't identicial of course, and yo ucan see they let them play since football season etc

As requested, this is the report listing of our Anti Fraud and Collusion system.
All the duplicate wagers between behnke and peeige. Listing doesn't include all duplicate lines done via pivoting on multiple teaser selections.
Risk balance is defined by general 500 or 250 limits. Adjusted automatically depending on odd and win and risk selection.
Duplicate cancelled transactions were removed.
*The report on second half wager count was counted manually and it was incorrectly reported by the marketing team. There are 13 second half wagers within 0-3 minutes of each other.
======================================== ==================== =========================

Line
bet type. acct. risk. placed date.

Tulane FH o27 EV.
straight. XXX. 500. 9/29/12 11:04 AM
straight. XXX. 250. 9/29/12 10:55 AM

Colorado FH o30½-110
straight. XXX. 550. 9/29/12 11:37 AM
straight. XXX. 275. 9/29/12 11:17 AM

Alabama FH o27.5-110
straight. XXX. 400. 9/29/12 11:42 AM
straight. XXX. 250. 9/29/12 11:21 AM

New England Patriots FH u24.5-110
straight. XXX. 402. 9/29/12 11:42 AM
straight. XXX. 250. 9/29/12 11:40 AM

Toledo FH u28.5 EV
straight. XXX. 450. 9/29/12 6:09 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 9/29/12 5:39 PM

Carolina Panthers FH +4-110
straight. XXX. 550. 9/30/12 12:00 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 9/30/12 12:20 PM

Kansas City Chiefs FH +.5 EV
straight. XXX. 500. 9/30/12 12:33 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 9/30/12 12:34 PM

Detroit Lions SH -200
straight. XXX. 1000. 9/30/12 2:29 PM
straight. XXX. 500. 9/30/12 2:26 PM

Carolina Panthers SH +3 EV
straight. XXX. 500. 9/30/12 2:40 PM
straight. XXX. 500. 9/30/12 2:41 PM

Kansas City Chiefs SH PK-120
straight. XXX. 600. 9/30/12 2:50 PM
straight. XXX. 300. 9/30/12 2:52 PM

East Carolina SH u23½ EV
straight. XXX. 232. 10/4/12 9:37 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/4/12 9:41 PM

Arizona Cardinals FH u17½+110
straight. XXX. 500. 10/4/12 8:21 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/4/12 8:40 PM

Bayern Munich G -2-140
straight. XXX. 350. 10/4/12 8:36 AM
straight. XXX. 350. 10/4/12 9:17 AM

Miami (OH) FH o30 EV
straight. XXX. 500. 10/6/12 2:30 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/6/12 2:27 PM

Ohio State FH o28-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/6/12 4:28 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/6/12 4:28 PM

FC Barcelona G PK-240
straight. XXX. 600. 10/7/12 8:36 AM
straight. XXX. 600. 10/7/12 9:12 AM

Seattle Seahawks FH u21½-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/7/12 11:28 AM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/7/12 10:50 AM

Minnesota Vikings FH -190
straight. XXX. 950. 10/7/12 11:32 AM
straight. XXX. 475. 10/7/12 11:34 AM

New England Patriots FH -190
straight. XXX. 950. 10/7/12 11:32 AM
straight. XXX. 475. 10/7/12 11:34 AM

Malaga G u2½+110
straight. XXX. 250. 10/7/12 1:40 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/7/12 9:12 AM

Green Bay Packers SH -½-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/7/12 2:43 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/7/12 2:43 AM

Arizona State SH -11-105
straight. XXX. 525. 10/11/12 10:37PM
straight. XXX. 262. 10/11/12 10:38AM

Mississippi FH -2.5 -110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/13/12 11:34AM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/13/12 10:43AM

Wisconsin SH PK EV
straight. XXX. 500. 10/13/12 1:40 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/13/12 1:40 PM

Stanford SH u20½-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/13/12 5:11 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/13/12 5:10 PM

Cincinnati Bengals FH u21.5 -115
straight. XXX. 575. 10/14/12 10:01 AM
straight. XXX. 287. 10/14/12 10:36 AM

Cleveland Browns G +8-110 (B+6)
San Francisco 49ers G -1-110 (B+6)
Washington Redskins G +7½-110 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 500. 10/14/12 12:32 PM
teaser. XXX. 250.

Miami Dolphins FH o18-105
straight. XXX. 525. 10/14/12 11:14 AM
straight. XXX. 262. 10/14/12 11:19 AM

Seattle Seahawks FH o21 -115
straight. XXX. 575. 10/14/12 10:15 AM
straight. XXX. 287. 10/14/12 11:11 AM

New England Patriots SH PK-115
straight. XXX. 575. 10/14/12 5:37 PM
straight. XXX. 287. 10/14/12 5:38 PM

Eastern Michigan FH +½ EV
straight. XXX. 500. 10/20/12 10:39 AM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/20/12 10:42 AM

FC Lorient G PK+150
straight. XXX. 250. 10/20/12 1:28 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/20/12 1:24 PM

Rice FH u31½-115
straight. XXX. 575. 10/20/12 2:52 PM
straight. XXX. 287. 10/20/12 3:15 PM

Kentucky SH o27½-115
straight. XXX. 575. 10/20/12 8:41 PM
straight. XXX. 287. 10/20/12 8:44 PM

Idaho SH +11-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/20/12 8:49 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/20/12 8:51 PM

New Orleans Saints G -1-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/21/12 12:56 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/21/12 12:16 PM

Dallas Cowboys G -3 +110
straight. XXX. 500. 10/21/12 10:53 AM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/21/12 12:56 PM

Wisconsin SH -1½-110
straight. XXX. 500. 10/27/12 04:57 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/27/12 04:57 PM

Carolina Panthers G +7½-110
straight. XXX. 550. 10/28/12 12:13 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 10/28/12 11:06 AM

Miami Dolphins G +7½-110 (B+6)
Seattle Seahawks G +9-120 (B+6)
Atlanta Falcons G +9-125 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 500. 10/28/12 11:32 AM
teaser. XXX. 250. 10/24/12 10:19 PM

San Diego Chargers G -3+105
straight. XXX. 500. 10/28/12 12:59 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/28/12 12:20 PM

Tennessee Titans SH PK+115
straight. XXX. 500. 10/28/12 2:36 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 10/28/12 2:39 PM

San Diego Chargers G -1-110 (B+6)
Indianapolis Colts G +7½-110 (B+6)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers G +7½-110 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 500. 11/1/12 8:03 PM
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/1/12 7:31 PM

Arsenal FC G +1-125
straight. XXX. 312. 11/3/12 6:43 AM
straight. XXX. 312. 11/3/12 7:18 AM

Texas A&M FH u31-115
straight. XXX. 575. 11/3/12 11:26 AM
straight. XXX. 287. 11/3/12 11:28 AM

Minnesota FH o23-105
straight. XXX. 525. 11/3/12 11:37 AM
straight. XXX. 287. 11/3/12 11:46 AM

Illinois FH u27-115
straight. XXX. 575. 11/3/12 11:46 AM
straight. XXX. 287. 11/3/12 11:47 AM

Philadelphia Eagles G +3-110
straight. XXX. 550. 11/5/12 8:39 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 11/5/12 8:35 PM

San Francisco G +13½-110
straight. XXX. 275. 11/9/12 7:44 PM
San Francisco G +16½-170 (B+3)
straight. XXX. 425. 11/9/12 7:50 PM

Schalke 04 G o3-130
straight. XXX. 325. 11/10/12 07:45 AM
straight. XXX. 325. 11/10/12 08:52 AM

Cagliari G PK-180
straight. XXX. 450. 11/10/12 11:33 AM
straight. XXX. 450. 11/10/12 11:32 AM

Tulsa FH u34-105
straight. XXX. 262. 11/10/12 3:02 PM
straight. XXX. 262. 11/10/12 2:55 PM

Miami Dolphins G +9-125 (B+6)
Dallas Cowboys G -2-110 (B+6)
Denver Broncos G -1½-110 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/15/12 8:20 PM
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/14/12 7:12 AM

Cincinnati Bengals G -2½-110 (B+6)
Chicago Bears G -½-110 (B+6)
Miami Dolphins G +9-115 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/25/2012 9:56 AM
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/25/12 11:59 AM

New Orleans Saints G +8½-110 (B+6)
Philadelphia Eagles G +9-120 (B+6)
Green Bay Packers G +9-120 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/25/12 11:05 AM
teaser. XXX. 250. 11/25/12 12:02 PM

Tampa Bay Buccaneers G -1-115 (B+6)
Minnesota Vikings G +9-125 (B+6)
Pittsburgh Steelers G -1½-110 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/9/12 10:47 AM
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/9/12 10:49 AM

Cleveland Browns G -3+115
straight. XXX. 250. 12/02/12 4:22 PM
straight. XXX. 250. 12/02/12 3:51 PM

Sam Houston State University G -3-110
straight. XXX. 275. 12/15/12 12:57 PM
straight. XXX. 275. 12/15/12 12:49 PM

Baltimore Ravens G +9-125 (B+6)
Miami Dolphins G -1-115 (B+6)
Minnesota Vikings G +9-125 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/16/12 12:52 PM
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/16/12 12:13 PM

New Orleans Saints G +9-130 (B+6)
Houston Texans G -2-110 (B+6)
San Diego Chargers G +9-125 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/23/12 12:17 PM
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/23/12 6:59 AM

Chicago Bears G -1 EV (B+6)
San Francisco 49ers G +9-130 (B+6)
Baltimore Ravens G +8-110 (B+6)
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/23/12 12:20 PM
teaser. XXX. 250. 12/23/12 7:09 AM

(BAL at SF) How many successful 3 point field goals will be kicked in the game? Total u3½-120
straight. XXX. 300. 2/3/13 12:50 PM
straight. XXX. 300. 2/3/13 12:53 PM

**darkhat** · 04-08-13, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

**Santo** · 04-08-13, 05:15 PM

There's a lot of BS teasers and stuff, which I think you can ignore (a bunch would have played the same)..

More curious are the random soccer bets on Italian, German & English leagues and the prop -- but as I said in the other thread, all of that could surely be matched up to the relevant 'tips' thread if that is the claim?

**Peregrine Stoop** · 04-08-13, 05:20 PM

no wai... players hitting same off-market lines.... I'm shocked

why 3 minute delay on some and hours on others?

Pay them their money. You got beat by two separate individuals, BetRev. Hire a linesmaker and stop stealing from players.

**shari91** · 04-08-13, 05:32 PM

Yeah... No... I don't see one time anyone should be shafted for that.

Anyone from EOG knows they're more than welcome to talk here.

Anyone who has a username that is even close to betrevolution can speak here

Don't speak after countless opps too?? I'm going to judge now

And I'm a whore apprarently for being a chick who gamble so let's see what other's say xo

**Sports Scientist** · 04-08-13, 06:54 PM

Bet Rev is a good book

**lecubs28** · 04-08-13, 07:13 PM

...if you hate money and like getting pounded in the ass by costa rican scum

**touchback** · 04-08-13, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by shari91

Yeah... No... I don't see one time anyone should be shafted for that.

Anyone from EOG knows they're more than welcome to talk here.

Anyone who has a username that is even close to betrevolution can speak here

Don't speak after countless opps too?? I'm going to judge now

And I'm a whore apprarently for being a chick who gamble so let's see what other's say xo

Shari... I can dig it... preach it. I do think this is a serious problem with rev over such a small amount of money in our biz. To basically get blacklisted over 27 dimes, that is a branding PR nightmare. Also, the report is weak at best and we have seen similar in the past with some other outfits. With the terrible six weeks going through November where some houses were having hold percentages hitting 10 and even 15 and it is a killer on reserves when all the winnings started getting pulled in December and January. Guys kept a tiny amount for a SuperBowl bet but basically pulled the rest. This means that many books are sitting on some very low reserves or almost noneand they still now have to make it through MLB and all the other obscure markets that do not make a book money. They are more liability than they are worth and if your a full service shop it is a ton of overhead for offices, servers, computers, IT, CSD, Callcenter and general staff, gaming platform and all the rest... So, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

**Hankwins** · 04-08-13, 07:19 PM

Someone recently talked about betrev offering cashout bonuses, leaving your money in and taking a whole new bonus and huge RO, that seems to me like a book grasping at straws to avoid payouts and may night be as financially sound as people think.

Also on a side note, i have always hated they way betrev worded their promotional emails. One that stands out to me is deposit, win money and MAKE FUN OF all your friends that didn't!

**touchback** · 04-08-13, 07:23 PM

Safest books out there right now have been around 10 or more years and offer more than just postup... if they got a PPH division and or Credit mMainly PPH, it is a safe resource) then they have a safe revenue stream all year long that they do not have to worry about winning players, just collecting service fees and using them where they need them.