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  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #4306
    1 goal after 2 mins in Vicenza then nothing for 88 mins after
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    • sideloaded
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-21-10
      • 7561

      #4307
      sucks man
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #4308
        and just to cap it off Aliardiere scores for Lorient! Nightmare night! Gotta hope Tolima get it done tonight now to make up the losses!
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #4309
          Amazing bad luck tonight! Scunthorpe 1-0 up then concede 2 in 2 minutes. Watford had 14 shots off target and 4 on target and dont score!
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          • kosti
            SBR High Roller
            • 08-22-12
            • 206

            #4310
            That Scunthorpe game was a disaster... Didn't see any of it but up 1-0 after half, you're In a relegation battle and you lose to the last-place team who is already going down. At least give us the push!!

            Oh well, lets hit the Tolima bets tonight
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            • Vaughany
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 03-07-10
              • 45563

              #4311
              Bordeaux PK @ -190 away at Lens...
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              • swordsandtequila
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-23-12
                • 9758

                #4312
                Officially done with French leagues. Just sayin'.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #4313
                  Playing Cerro Porteno PK @ +114 live-in-play...they are looking the more dangerous side
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #4314
                    these teams dont seem to have any idea how to cross or pass the ball in final third
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                    • Vaughany
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 03-07-10
                      • 45563

                      #4315
                      Nanni misses a one-on-one
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #4316
                        finishing is embarrassingly poor...Cerro could of had two in last 5 minutes
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                        • Vaughany
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 03-07-10
                          • 45563

                          #4317
                          cant believe I stayed up to watch this pile of shiite
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                          • Vaughany
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #4318
                            Pending plays for tonight:

                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                            Cant resist fading Inter again with all their injury problems, so moderate play on Roma PK @ -109 away at Inter in Coppa Italia (Wednesday 17th)...

                            As if Inter didnt have enough issues with injuries, Gargano and Nagatomo both got injured yesterday against Cagliari so will be out. One concern is that Pjanic limped off Roma in their game at Torino, but still, with Totti, Osvaldo, Destro, and Lamela all available they have better offensive options than Inter who just have Rocchi, Alvarez, Kuzmanovic, and Guarin at moment. And Totti only played half the game yesterday so had a bit of a rest, while De Rossi didnt play at all so should be fresher. Roma have a good record against Inter in recent times, they beat them 3-1 at San Siro last year, and won 4-0 at home. Then this year they drew 1-1 at home in league and won 2-1 in first-leg of this cup.
                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                            Bordeaux PK @ -190 away at Lens...
                            Need these to hit tonight after last night's debacle!

                            Should of gone bigger on Bordeaux PK when it was at -190 yesterday. Now at -216 on Pinnacle. Reason for the action on Bordeaux is because Lens have confirmed their squad and will be missing four key players in Yahia (29 apps, 4 goals), Touzghar (24 apps, 11 goals), Valdivia (28 apps, 11 goals), and Captain LeMoigne (28 apps, 1 goal). At the point when I played the Bordeaux PK @ -190 it wasnt confirmed that the latter 3 would be unavailable. Bordeaux are pretty much guaranteed to finish the league season in 7th-9th place, therefore winning this Cup is their only chance of getting some Silverware and getting in to Europa League next season. So in theory they should be more motivated for this game than if they were in the top 5 of league or still in the Europa League, or had other Cups to play for like Saint Etienne who clearly didn't take their cup game against Lorient last night too seriously (resting regulars like Aubameyang, Cohade, Clerc, Guilavogui, Perrin, & Brison) with an eye on their Cope de Ligue Final coming up this weekend.

                            Perhaps I'll add more to Bordeaux live-in-play if the PK drops to -200 or better. Very good chance this game goes under 2.5 as well as the home side should (again in theory) struggle to score against Bordeaux without Valdivia and Touzghar. Lens have scored 35 goals in Ligue 2 this season, and 27 of those have been scored by Valdivia, Touzghar, LeMoine, and Yahia!

                            EDIT: Just found Bordeaux PK @ -190 on Bookmaker so have added more to this making it a large play now.
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                            • Ron29301
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-27-11
                              • 2311

                              #4319
                              Bad line. I'm getting them @ +115.
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #4320
                                Originally posted by Ron29301
                                Bad line. I'm getting them @ +115.
                                yeah that's the ML at +115 dude. It would be more than a bad-line if I was playing the money-line at -190!
                                I'm getting the PK (draw-no-bet) at -190! With the home support behind them and solid defending Lens could get a draw and take it to extra-time.
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                                • Vaughany
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 03-07-10
                                  • 45563

                                  #4321
                                  Parlay (treble): Man Utd PK (-400), Juventus PK (-350), & Barcelona ML (-550)...
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                                  • Ron29301
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-27-11
                                    • 2311

                                    #4322
                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                    yeah that's the ML at +115 dude. It would be more than a bad-line if I was playing the money-line at -190!
                                    I'm getting the PK (draw-no-bet) at -190! With the home support behind them and solid defending Lens could get a draw and take it to extra-time.
                                    I see it now at Bookmaker. My other book doesn't have it. -190 is way to much juice. How much do you splatter on these high PK lines (Draw no bet)? I mean I understand that there's a chance of the PK bet going three ways win, lose, draw(refund/push). But, why not the ML when your getting +200 at times on a draw to possibly win your funds back. I'm trying to understand your logic of betting these PK matches with juice that high.
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                                    • Vaughany
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 03-07-10
                                      • 45563

                                      #4323
                                      Originally posted by Ron29301
                                      I see it now at Bookmaker. My other book doesn't have it. -190 is way to much juice. How much do you splatter on these high PK lines (Draw no bet)? I mean I understand that there's a chance of the PK bet going three ways win, lose, draw(refund/push). But, why not the ML when your getting +200 at times on a draw to possibly win your funds back. I'm trying to understand your logic of betting these PK matches with juice that high.
                                      What do mean by this? R u saying why not play the draw and bordeaux win separately?
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                                      • swordsandtequila
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-23-12
                                        • 9758

                                        #4324
                                        Three possible outcomes - win, lose, draw. With money line 1 outcome you win, 2 you lose. Pk offers some protection, only one outcome is a loss, hence the higher price.
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                                        • Ron29301
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-27-11
                                          • 2311

                                          #4325
                                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                                          What do mean by this? R u saying why not play the draw and bordeaux win separately?
                                          Yes, if your going to place ex. $190 to win 100. Hedge the draw and bet the rest on your Bordeaux team. Here's what I have at my book.
                                          04/17/2013
                                          13:00
                                          Lens (220)
                                          Draw (205)
                                          Bordeaux (115)
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                                          • Ron29301
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-27-11
                                            • 2311

                                            #4326
                                            Are you still going to lose if Lens wins? Yes. If I put $65 on the Draw I get a push $65+$133.25= $198.25. If I put $125 on Bord I get a win with $125 + $143.75=$268.75. Are you following me? I'm just going off of +money across the board for our team and the draw +200.
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                                            • onemoregoal
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                                              • 02-04-13
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                                              #4327
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #4328
                                                Originally posted by Ron29301
                                                Yes, if your going to place ex. $190 to win 100. Hedge the draw and bet the rest on your Bordeaux team. Here's what I have at my book.
                                                04/17/2013
                                                13:00
                                                Lens (220)
                                                Draw (205)
                                                Bordeaux (115)
                                                So you are saying take some of the $190 and put on the Bordeaux ML at +115 then play the draw as well? Well if I did that it would work out at worse odds than the draw no bet at -190. For example, the best odds available for a draw currently are on pinnacle @ +233. So if had £190 available, and I put £133 on the Bordeaux ML @ +115 and then put the remaining £57 on the draw @ +233 as a hedge, I'd be getting the draw-no-bet at about -196 (which is worse than -190). In some instance it can be better to do it this way but I dont see how it works in this case? And based on the lines you've quoted it would be closer to -210 to -220 range or something if you hedged with draw at +205.
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #4329
                                                  Originally posted by onemoregoal
                                                  Is this dude trolling me or what?!
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                                                  • Ron29301
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-27-11
                                                    • 2311

                                                    #4330
                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                    So you are saying take some of the $190 and put on the Bordeaux ML at +115 then play the draw as well? Well if I did that it would work out at worse odds than the draw no bet at -190. For example, the best odds available for a draw currently are on pinnacle @ +233. So if had £190 available, and I put £133 on the Bordeaux ML @ +115 and then put the remaining £57 on the draw @ +233 as a hedge, I'd be getting the draw-no-bet at about -196 (which is worse than -190). In some instance it can be better to do it this way but I dont see how it works in this case? And based on the lines you've quoted it would be closer to -210 to -220 range or something if you hedged with draw at +205.
                                                    Oh. Okay.
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                                                    • Vaughany
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                      • 45563

                                                      #4331
                                                      Originally posted by Ron29301
                                                      Are you still going to lose if Lens wins? Yes. If I put $65 on the Draw I get a push $65+$133.25= $198.25. If I put $125 on Bord I get a win with $125 + $143.75=$268.75. Are you following me? I'm just going off of +money across the board for our team and the draw +200.
                                                      lol if you did that then you would make $8.25 if it's a draw, $78.75 if Bordeaux win, or you'd lose $190 if Lens win!
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                                                      • onemoregoal
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                                                        • 02-04-13
                                                        • 8149

                                                        #4332
                                                        i think he forgot he loses the draw bet if bord wins.
                                                        but with dnb u dont lose anything if bord wins, man i dunno wtf
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #4333
                                                          Originally posted by onemoregoal
                                                          i think he forgot he loses the draw bet if bord wins.
                                                          but with dnb u dont lose anything if bord wins, man i dunno wtf
                                                          yes you're right that is how he's thinking!
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                                                          • Ron29301
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-27-11
                                                            • 2311

                                                            #4334
                                                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                            lol if you did that then you would make $8.25 if it's a draw, $78.75 if Bordeaux win, or you'd lose $190 if Lens win!
                                                            Lose $190 when I only risked $190 doesn't make sense but W.E. I'll analyze your plays and do it my way. GL. Your still going to lose also if Lens wins right?
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                                                            • onemoregoal
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-04-13
                                                              • 8149

                                                              #4335
                                                              your making it worse
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #4336
                                                                Originally posted by Ron29301
                                                                Lose $190 when I only risked $190 doesn't make sense but W.E. I'll analyze your plays and do it my way. GL. Your still going to lose also if Lens wins right?
                                                                How does that not make sense?! You are not betting on Lens to win, with your example you are betting on a draw, then also separately betting on a Bordeaux win with a total stake of $190! So if the draw doesnt happen, and a Bordeaux win doesnt happen, then there is only one other possible result - a Lens win! Which would mean you'd lose $190!

                                                                And yes, Im still going to lose if Lens win, but if it's a draw I get my stake back, and if it's a win I profit at -190 odds.
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                                                                • Vaughany
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                                  • 45563

                                                                  #4337
                                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                  Cant resist fading Inter again with all their injury problems, so moderate play on Roma PK @ -109 away at Inter in Coppa Italia (Wednesday 17th)...

                                                                  As if Inter didnt have enough issues with injuries, Gargano and Nagatomo both got injured yesterday against Cagliari so will be out. One concern is that Pjanic limped off Roma in their game at Torino, but still, with Totti, Osvaldo, Destro, and Lamela all available they have better offensive options than Inter who just have Rocchi, Alvarez, Kuzmanovic, and Guarin at moment. And Totti only played half the game yesterday so had a bit of a rest, while De Rossi didnt play at all so should be fresher. Roma have a good record against Inter in recent times, they beat them 3-1 at San Siro last year, and won 4-0 at home. Then this year they drew 1-1 at home in league and won 2-1 in first-leg of this cup.
                                                                  Stramacioni on Inter's injuries:
                                                                  "It's no coincidence the guys suffering muscle injuries are the same ones who've had an added workload"

                                                                  APPIANO GENTILE - Young players were one of the issues Andrea Stramaccionitackled during his press conference earlier. The media were keen to know whether young Marco Benassi would play tomorrow: "Benassi has been one of the positives to come out of this season. We've had 13 players make their first team debut this season, Benassi has come through here and he's 18, like Kovacic. The pair of them could line up alongside one another tomorrow."
                                                                  The coach was then asked whether, given the fact he used Walter Samuel as a makeshift forward, the young players are not up to filling in up front. "You need to know the context. Forte was coming from Pisa, he returned after three months on the sidelines in the derby and picked up another knock. He's only trained three times with us. Colombi pulled up in training on Friday, so I preferred not to risk anyone. Then there was tactical reasoning behind it: I put on Samuel in Trieste not only to come back but also - if and when we scored - to be able to move him back to centre half pushing Juan wide. If I'd had a fit forward, he'd have played."
                                                                  Stramaccioni then explained why he hasn't yet released details of his squad for tomorrow night: "We'll wait until tomorrow morning, given that - just for a change - we've got a few issues. We'll decide who's in the squad tomorrow. Chivu? He trained normally today, I'll see whether I can include him, but he didn't manage the whole session yesterday."
                                                                  Speaking of injuries, talk then turned to Nagatomo. The Japanese press wanted to know whether he'll need an operation and, if so, where he'll have it: "Nagatomo is an Inter player, Inter pay his wages, so it'll be Inter who decide what the best course of action is, whether to operate or not and, if so, where. That decision will be taken in the next few hours."
                                                                  Finally the coach was asked why Inter have succumbed to so many injuries, particularly muscle complaints: "Obviously we assess things on a daily basis to see where we can improve, starting with myself, but it's no coincidence that the guys who have sustained
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                                                                  • Ron29301
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-27-11
                                                                    • 2311

                                                                    #4338
                                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                    How does that not make sense?! You are not betting on Lens to win, with your example you are betting on a draw, then also separately betting on a Bordeaux win with a total stake of $190! So if the draw doesnt happen, and a Bordeaux win doesnt happen, then there is only one other possible result - a Lens win! Which would mean you'd lose $190!

                                                                    And yes, Im still going to lose if Lens win, but if it's a draw I get my stake back, and if it's a win I profit at -190 odds.
                                                                    Lol!!! Your doing the same thing to win $22 more than me. Gl. I understand your concept.
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                                                                    • zhuhaibaker
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 04-10-13
                                                                      • 3

                                                                      #4339
                                                                      I think he is trying to say that out of the three possible outcome( for the normal bet), you can get something out of 2( 8,25 or 78.75), but for the Draw No bet you only got one , although slightly bigger winning if B wins. In any case if Lens wins... in all cases you lost 190, am I right to see it this way ?
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                                                                      • Ron29301
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-27-11
                                                                        • 2311

                                                                        #4340
                                                                        Originally posted by zhuhaibaker
                                                                        I think he is trying to say that out of the three possible outcome( for the normal bet), you can get something out of 2( 8,25 or 78.75), but for the Draw No bet you only got one , although slightly bigger winning if B wins. In any case if Lens wins... in all cases you lost 190, am I right to see it this way ?
                                                                        Not that hard to put 2 and 2 together. Thanks Z
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