1 goal after 2 mins in Vicenza then nothing for 88 mins after 
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and just to cap it off Aliardiere scores for Lorient! Nightmare night! Gotta hope Tolima get it done tonight now to make up the losses!
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Amazing bad luck tonight! Scunthorpe 1-0 up then concede 2 in 2 minutes. Watford had 14 shots off target and 4 on target and dont score!Comment -
That Scunthorpe game was a disaster... Didn't see any of it but up 1-0 after half, you're In a relegation battle and you lose to the last-place team who is already going down. At least give us the push!!
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Bordeaux PK @ -190 away at Lens...Comment -
Officially done with French leagues. Just sayin'.
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Playing Cerro Porteno PK @ +114 live-in-play...they are looking the more dangerous sideComment -
these teams dont seem to have any idea how to cross or pass the ball in final thirdComment -
Nanni misses a one-on-one
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finishing is embarrassingly poor...Cerro could of had two in last 5 minutesComment -
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Pending plays for tonight:
Originally posted by VaughanyNeed these to hit tonight after last night's debacle!Originally posted by Vaughany
Should of gone bigger on Bordeaux PK when it was at -190 yesterday. Now at -216 on Pinnacle. Reason for the action on Bordeaux is because Lens have confirmed their squad and will be missing four key players in Yahia (29 apps, 4 goals), Touzghar (24 apps, 11 goals), Valdivia (28 apps, 11 goals), and Captain LeMoigne (28 apps, 1 goal). At the point when I played the Bordeaux PK @ -190 it wasnt confirmed that the latter 3 would be unavailable. Bordeaux are pretty much guaranteed to finish the league season in 7th-9th place, therefore winning this Cup is their only chance of getting some Silverware and getting in to Europa League next season. So in theory they should be more motivated for this game than if they were in the top 5 of league or still in the Europa League, or had other Cups to play for like Saint Etienne who clearly didn't take their cup game against Lorient last night too seriously (resting regulars like Aubameyang, Cohade, Clerc, Guilavogui, Perrin, & Brison) with an eye on their Cope de Ligue Final coming up this weekend.
Perhaps I'll add more to Bordeaux live-in-play if the PK drops to -200 or better. Very good chance this game goes under 2.5 as well as the home side should (again in theory) struggle to score against Bordeaux without Valdivia and Touzghar. Lens have scored 35 goals in Ligue 2 this season, and 27 of those have been scored by Valdivia, Touzghar, LeMoine, and Yahia!
EDIT: Just found Bordeaux PK @ -190 on Bookmaker so have added more to this making it a large play now.Comment -
Bad line. I'm getting them @ +115.Comment -
yeah that's the ML at +115 dude. It would be more than a bad-line if I was playing the money-line at -190!Originally posted by Ron29301
I'm getting the PK (draw-no-bet) at -190! With the home support behind them and solid defending Lens could get a draw and take it to extra-time.Comment -
Parlay (treble): Man Utd PK (-400), Juventus PK (-350), & Barcelona ML (-550)...Comment -
I see it now at Bookmaker. My other book doesn't have it. -190 is way to much juice. How much do you splatter on these high PK lines (Draw no bet)Originally posted by Vaughanyyeah that's the ML at +115 dude. It would be more than a bad-line if I was playing the money-line at -190!
I'm getting the PK (draw-no-bet) at -190! With the home support behind them and solid defending Lens could get a draw and take it to extra-time.? I mean I understand that there's a chance of the PK bet going three ways win, lose, draw(refund/push). But, why not the ML when your getting +200 at times on a draw to possibly win your funds back. I'm trying to understand your logic of betting these PK matches with juice that high.
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What do mean by this? R u saying why not play the draw and bordeaux win separately?Originally posted by Ron29301I see it now at Bookmaker. My other book doesn't have it. -190 is way to much juice. How much do you splatter on these high PK lines (Draw no bet)? I mean I understand that there's a chance of the PK bet going three ways win, lose, draw(refund/push). But, why not the ML when your getting +200 at times on a draw to possibly win your funds back. I'm trying to understand your logic of betting these PK matches with juice that high.Comment -
Three possible outcomes - win, lose, draw. With money line 1 outcome you win, 2 you lose. Pk offers some protection, only one outcome is a loss, hence the higher price.Comment -
Yes, if your going to place ex. $190 to win 100. Hedge the draw and bet the rest on your Bordeaux team. Here's what I have at my book.Originally posted by Vaughany
04/17/2013
13:00Lens (220)
Draw (205)
Bordeaux (115)Comment -
Are you still going to lose if Lens wins? Yes. If I put $65 on the Draw I get a push $65+$133.25= $198.25. If I put $125 on Bord I get a win with $125 + $143.75=$268.75. Are you following me? I'm just going off of +money across the board for our team and the draw +200.Comment -
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So you are saying take some of the $190 and put on the Bordeaux ML at +115 then play the draw as well? Well if I did that it would work out at worse odds than the draw no bet at -190. For example, the best odds available for a draw currently are on pinnacle @ +233. So if had £190 available, and I put £133 on the Bordeaux ML @ +115 and then put the remaining £57 on the draw @ +233 as a hedge, I'd be getting the draw-no-bet at about -196 (which is worse than -190). In some instance it can be better to do it this way but I dont see how it works in this case? And based on the lines you've quoted it would be closer to -210 to -220 range or something if you hedged with draw at +205.Originally posted by Ron29301Comment -
Is this dude trolling me or what?!Originally posted by onemoregoalComment -
Oh. Okay.Originally posted by VaughanyComment -
lol if you did that then you would make $8.25 if it's a draw, $78.75 if Bordeaux win, or you'd lose $190 if Lens win!Originally posted by Ron29301Comment -
i think he forgot he loses the draw bet if bord wins.
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yes you're right that is how he's thinking!Originally posted by onemoregoalComment -
Lose $190 when I only risked $190 doesn't make sense but W.E. I'll analyze your plays and do it my way. GL. Your still going to lose also if Lens wins right?Originally posted by VaughanyComment -
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How does that not make sense?! You are not betting on Lens to win, with your example you are betting on a draw, then also separately betting on a Bordeaux win with a total stake of $190! So if the draw doesnt happen, and a Bordeaux win doesnt happen, then there is only one other possible result - a Lens win! Which would mean you'd lose $190!Originally posted by Ron29301
And yes, Im still going to lose if Lens win, but if it's a draw I get my stake back, and if it's a win I profit at -190 odds.Comment -
Stramacioni on Inter's injuries:Originally posted by Vaughany
"It's no coincidence the guys suffering muscle injuries are the same ones who've had an added workload"
APPIANO GENTILE - Young players were one of the issues Andrea Stramaccionitackled during his press conference earlier. The media were keen to know whether young Marco Benassi would play tomorrow: "Benassi has been one of the positives to come out of this season. We've had 13 players make their first team debut this season, Benassi has come through here and he's 18, like Kovacic. The pair of them could line up alongside one another tomorrow."
The coach was then asked whether, given the fact he used Walter Samuel as a makeshift forward, the young players are not up to filling in up front. "You need to know the context. Forte was coming from Pisa, he returned after three months on the sidelines in the derby and picked up another knock. He's only trained three times with us. Colombi pulled up in training on Friday, so I preferred not to risk anyone. Then there was tactical reasoning behind it: I put on Samuel in Trieste not only to come back but also - if and when we scored - to be able to move him back to centre half pushing Juan wide. If I'd had a fit forward, he'd have played."
Stramaccioni then explained why he hasn't yet released details of his squad for tomorrow night: "We'll wait until tomorrow morning, given that - just for a change - we've got a few issues. We'll decide who's in the squad tomorrow. Chivu? He trained normally today, I'll see whether I can include him, but he didn't manage the whole session yesterday."
Speaking of injuries, talk then turned to Nagatomo. The Japanese press wanted to know whether he'll need an operation and, if so, where he'll have it: "Nagatomo is an Inter player, Inter pay his wages, so it'll be Inter who decide what the best course of action is, whether to operate or not and, if so, where. That decision will be taken in the next few hours."
Finally the coach was asked why Inter have succumbed to so many injuries, particularly muscle complaints: "Obviously we assess things on a daily basis to see where we can improve, starting with myself, but it's no coincidence that the guys who have sustainedComment -
Lol!!! Your doing the same thing to win $22 more than me. Gl. I understand your concept.Originally posted by VaughanyComment -
I think he is trying to say that out of the three possible outcome( for the normal bet), you can get something out of 2( 8,25 or 78.75), but for the Draw No bet you only got one , although slightly bigger winning if B wins. In any case if Lens wins... in all cases you lost 190, am I right to see it this way ?Comment -
Not that hard to put 2 and 2 together. Thanks ZOriginally posted by zhuhaibakerComment
