USA Faces Crucial Test Versus Slovenia

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Chance Harper
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-20-07
    • 788

    #1
    USA Faces Crucial Test Versus Slovenia
    World Cup Betting: USA Faces Crucial Test

    Team USA caught a break to come away from the match against England with a draw. Now Bob Bradley's squad is in need of a convincing win on Friday against Slovenia.

    So the United States is as good at soccer as England, right?

    If you don’t know much about soccer, or gambling for that matter, you might think so based on their 1-1 draw with the English last Saturday at the World Cup. But there’s a reason people got paid out at +330 after that result.



    Soccer in the U.S. has been a mixed bag since Bob Bradley took over the program in 2006 from his former boss, Bruce Arena. Team USA has a 3-3-1 record this year in international competition after going 13-8-3 in 2009, including that stunning 2-0 victory over then-No. 1 Spain at the Confederations Cup.

    It’s not like Bradley is driving this program into the ground. He doesn’t always have access to his country’s top talent, since their clubs are not obligated to release players for the national team. Even then, Bradley has often chosen to develop younger American players by putting them on the pitch in important games, like their infamous 5-0 loss to Mexico at the 2009 Gold Cup in front of nearly 80,000 people at Giants Stadium.

    That doesn’t mean Team USA is ready to compete at the same level they did at the 2002 World Cup when they reached the quarterfinals. However, it’s also likely that the Americans are better than their No. 14 spot on the FIFA World Rankings, which are based solely on results in international matches over the past four years (weighted toward more recent matches). The Americans theoretically have some value against the betting odds.

    Their challenge on Friday (10:00 a.m. ET, ESPN) will be to put away a Slovenia side that figures to play defense after securing a valuable 1-0 victory over Algeria, cashing in at +115 and moving to the top of Group C.

    Two of the group’s four teams advance to the Round of 16; England is likely to advance, so Slovenia will be tactically more interested in not losing than winning. A draw with the U.S. would keep the two teams three points apart in the standings with one game remaining.

    With that in mind, the books have the 'under' pegged at -165 on the standard total of 2.5 goals. And the draw would pay +230, which is at the low end of the scale. The U.S. will be on the attack and are being priced accordingly at even money for the win compared to Slovenia at +260. I’ve been on my soapbox lately about the value of the draw in soccer betting, but in this situation, it’s even further justified.

    The Slovenes are actually one of the better second-tier teams in Europe at No. 25 in the world rankings, allowing just three goals in their seven World Cup qualifying games and advancing at the expense of No. 11-ranked Russia. It simply makes good soccer sense for Slovenia to go defensive, rely on goalkeeper Samir Handanovic (a star for Udinese in the Italian Serie A) to hold the fort, and go on the counterattack when prudent.

    That was pretty much how the Americans earned their point on Saturday. Yes, it took the mother of all soft goals against England’s Robert Green, but Tim Howard (also an international star with Everton of the English Premiership) made six saves in the second half as the U.S. held the advancing English in check. Howard did this despite suffering cracked ribs when he took a foot in the chest while diving in front of Emile Heskey. Reports at press time suggested Howard would be available against Slovenia after receiving medical clearance.

    How will the United States fare when they’re the ones pressing? Perhaps not so well. They only completed 66.8 percent of their passes against England; their only worse day at the World Cup was against South Korea in 2002, when they connected on 66.4 percent in a 1-1 draw. The tricky new Jabulani ball may have something to do with it; Slovenia went 0-for-19 on their cross attempts against Algeria. Maybe a 0-0 draw is in the works for this matchup.
  • RockyS
    Restricted User
    • 03-23-10
    • 1091

    #2
    Totally agree with you.

    I still think Slovenia +1 is the way
    Comment
    • jhause13
      SBR Sharp
      • 12-27-07
      • 464

      #3
      Excellent write up.
      Comment
      • nj1035
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-19-09
        • 902

        #4
        A draw with Slovenia would leave the teams 2 points apart going into the final game, not 3. I don't think Slovenia should be particularly in love with a draw in this game, considering it's likely the US will get 3 points from Algeria. In that case Slovenia would need at least a draw with England in their final game to advance.

        I'm not sure where the writer of this article formed his math skills, but 4 minus 2 is not 3. And that changes the entire complexion of the write up in my opinion.
        Comment
        • spal2811
          SBR Sharp
          • 12-02-08
          • 306

          #5
          nice write up....should be a great game hopefully the US can pull out a W
          Comment
          • hustla
            SBR MVP
            • 10-20-09
            • 1235

            #6
            So the United States is as good at soccer as England, right?
            Comment
            • Eleven
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-07-09
              • 730

              #7
              Originally posted by hustla
              So the United States is as good at soccer as England, right?
              With the way this tournament is going, I just put a few bucks on the US going to the finals
              Comment
              • ji03
                SBR MVP
                • 06-27-09
                • 1144

                #8
                Think the draw is a likely outcome for this game.
                Comment
                • Dirty Sanchez
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-01-10
                  • 16031

                  #9
                  The US doesn't face the firepower England had, and if they want to put the pressure on the Group they need to beat Slovenia. The game wreaks of a 1 goal win for the US.
                  Comment
                  • CrimsonQueen
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-12-09
                    • 1068

                    #10
                    I dunno, I could see this being 2-0 USA.
                    Comment
                    • CBH123
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 04-10-10
                      • 34

                      #11
                      I think people are underestimating the US team. Everyone is saying they got really lucky because of England's keeper's mistake, but Altidore's shot almost went in, and in my opinion they looked better than England except for poor defense in the first 20 minutes or so.
                      Comment
                      • pavyracer
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-12-07
                        • 82839

                        #12
                        I don't know. USA had one scoring chance vs England and that was not the goal scored btw. There is no firepower up front. Don't forget that Slovenia kept a clean sheet vs Algeria.
                        Comment
                        • lakerboy
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-02-09
                          • 94379

                          #13
                          USA isnt gonna beat slovenia. Slovenia is going thru and will get the result or a draw here.
                          Comment
                          • Goat Milk
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 03-24-10
                            • 25850

                            #14
                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                            USA isnt gonna beat slovenia. Slovenia is going thru and will get the result or a draw here.
                            If this game ends in a draw, 2nd spot is still a toss up because Slovenia will lose to England guaranteed. This is a tough game to call.
                            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
                            Comment
                            • pavyracer
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 04-12-07
                              • 82839

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Goat Milk
                              If this game ends in a draw, 2nd spot is still a toss up because Slovenia will lose to England guaranteed. This is a tough game to call.
                              Unless the US scores a real goal they will be out. So far they are toothless up front.
                              Comment
                              • Bill Dozer
                                www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                • 07-12-05
                                • 10894

                                #16
                                People said England was the US's biggest game ever. This has to top that. If the US loses to Slovenia I cant see them moving forward. England will advance and Slovenia already has 3 points in their win.
                                Comment
                                • suicidekings
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-23-09
                                  • 9962

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CBH123
                                  I think people are underestimating the US team. Everyone is saying they got really lucky because of England's keeper's mistake, but Altidore's shot almost went in, and in my opinion they looked better than England except for poor defense in the first 20 minutes or so.
                                  Laughable. If anything, American bettors are overestimating the US squad's chances in the WC.
                                  Comment
                                  • JOHON8
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-28-10
                                    • 7712

                                    #18
                                    If Slovenia do their job I swear to god me and my friends will buy and put a Slovenian flag on top of our car and join the celebrations.
                                    Comment
                                    • Dark Horse
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-14-05
                                      • 13764

                                      #19
                                      Slovenia will be very tough to beat.

                                      Results, going back one year...

                                      WC:
                                      Slovenia - Algeria 1-0

                                      Playoffs:
                                      Slovenia - Russia 1-0
                                      Russia - Slovenia 2-1

                                      Qualifying:
                                      San Marino - Slovenia 0-3
                                      Slovakia - Slovenia 0-2
                                      Slovenia - Poland 3-0
                                      Slovenia - San Marino 5-0

                                      That's 18 points out of their last 7 competitive games.
                                      Before that, they got 8 points out of 6 qualifying games.
                                      Comment
                                      • suicidekings
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 03-23-09
                                        • 9962

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                        Slovenia will be very tough to beat.

                                        Results, going back one year...

                                        WC:
                                        Slovenia - Algeria 1-0

                                        Playoffs:
                                        Slovenia - Russia 1-0
                                        Russia - Slovenia 2-1

                                        Qualifying:
                                        San Marino - Slovenia 0-3
                                        Slovakia - Slovenia 0-2
                                        Slovenia - Poland 3-0
                                        Slovenia - San Marino 5-0

                                        That's 18 points out of their last 7 competitive games.
                                        Before that, they got 8 points out of 6 qualifying games.
                                        6 games out of 7 not allowing a goal... Impressive.
                                        Comment
                                        • maersksealand
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-17-09
                                          • 1673

                                          #21
                                          Ignore San Marino, here at SBR we can come up with a team capable to beat San Marino.
                                          Comment
                                          • Genghiz
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 06-13-10
                                            • 77

                                            #22
                                            Play USA ML and wait till tomorrow to cash.
                                            Comment
                                            • DwightShrute
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-17-09
                                              • 103306

                                              #23
                                              Usa 2-0

                                              USA and England go through
                                              Comment
                                              • GoldRush7
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-27-09
                                                • 2014

                                                #24
                                                Usa, usa!!!
                                                Comment
                                                • BatemanPatrickl
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 06-21-07
                                                  • 18772

                                                  #25
                                                  Come on USA let's get this. Red, white and blue BOYZ/
                                                  Comment
                                                  • nj1035
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-19-09
                                                    • 902

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by suicidekings
                                                    Laughable. If anything, American bettors are overestimating the US squad's chances in the WC.
                                                    Talk is cheap....so far, although it's only one game, the Americans have outplayed their expectations according to oddsmakers. We'll see if that keeps course.
                                                    Comment
                                                    • BROOKLYN BOY
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 07-11-07
                                                      • 265

                                                      #27
                                                      slovenia all the way....us team is awful.
                                                      Comment
                                                      • jhause13
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 12-27-07
                                                        • 464

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                        Slovenia will be very tough to beat.

                                                        Results, going back one year...

                                                        WC:
                                                        Slovenia - Algeria 1-0

                                                        Playoffs:
                                                        Slovenia - Russia 1-0
                                                        Russia - Slovenia 2-1

                                                        Qualifying:
                                                        San Marino - Slovenia 0-3
                                                        Slovakia - Slovenia 0-2
                                                        Slovenia - Poland 3-0
                                                        Slovenia - San Marino 5-0

                                                        That's 18 points out of their last 7 competitive games.
                                                        Before that, they got 8 points out of 6 qualifying games.
                                                        San Marino is one of the lowest ranked international teams in the world. And also the only team that even made the World Cup out of those fixtures was Slovakia and so far they haven't looked like they deserve to be there. Slovenia did beat Algeria in their World Cup opener but Algeria is also a team i'd like to consider to be a pushover.

                                                        Ultimately, I think you will be disappointed if you don't put money on the United States tomorrow morning. The England vs. U.S. game was fairly even. Yes I agree the U.S. didn't provide a lot of offensive fireworks to watch but Englands defense and team is one of the best in the world.

                                                        I'll predict a 2-0 United States victory.
                                                        Comment
                                                        • Gio21
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-13-09
                                                          • 1594

                                                          #29
                                                          Usa will win they came out tentative in the first game just like every other team USA wins on a cleansheet by Howard!!
                                                          Comment
                                                          • rockman123
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 10-24-09
                                                            • 300

                                                            #30
                                                            beted on USA but i'm from Slovenia so i will be cheering for Slovenia tomorow to win
                                                            Comment
                                                            • rockman123
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 10-24-09
                                                              • 300

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                              Slovenia will be very tough to beat.

                                                              Results, going back one year...

                                                              WC:
                                                              Slovenia - Algeria 1-0

                                                              Playoffs:
                                                              Slovenia - Russia 1-0
                                                              Russia - Slovenia 2-1

                                                              Qualifying:
                                                              San Marino - Slovenia 0-3
                                                              Slovakia - Slovenia 0-2
                                                              Slovenia - Poland 3-0
                                                              Slovenia - San Marino 5-0

                                                              That's 18 points out of their last 7 competitive games.
                                                              Before that, they got 8 points out of 6 qualifying games.
                                                              Yeah lol but San marino is not actualy a team. players had to come from vacation to play against Slovenia
                                                              Even if a couple of guys from sbr would make a team we would beat San Marino
                                                              Comment
                                                              • pavyracer
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-12-07
                                                                • 82839

                                                                #32
                                                                The US played Barbados (8-0) in the qualifiers. I can guarantee you that San Marino can beat Barbados on any given day. My local high school team can beat Barbados.
                                                                Comment
                                                                • jhause13
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 12-27-07
                                                                  • 464

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Barbados is ranked 135th in the world rankings while San Marino is ranked 202nd which is tied for dead last in the world. I highly doubt that San Marino would beat Barbados on any given day Pavy.
                                                                  Comment
                                                                  • pavyracer
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                                    • 82839

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jhause13
                                                                    Barbados is ranked 135th in the world rankings while San Marino is ranked 202nd which is tied for dead last in the world. I highly doubt that San Marino would beat Barbados on any given day Pavy.
                                                                    Rankings mean nothing. How come Switzerland beat Spain?
                                                                    Comment
                                                                    • cover1
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 05-24-10
                                                                      • 104

                                                                      #35
                                                                      1-0 USA, but if it's the other way around I would not be surprised
                                                                      Comment
                                                                      SBR Contests
                                                                      Collapse
                                                                      Top-Rated US Sportsbooks
                                                                      Collapse
                                                                      Working...