possible fishy bullshit in asia in the morning hours of june 18

[thetrinity]

south korea and iran both virtually qualify for world cup 2014 with a draw

i say possible because south korea is virtually in anyways even if they should lose based on goal differential, same with iran if they draw, would need a big swing in gd to miss out.

[i97g]

south korea and iran both virtually qualify for world cup 2014 with a draw

i say possible because south korea is virtually in anyways even if they should lose based on goal differential, same with iran if they draw, would need a big swing in gd to miss out.

I am going with under 1.5! I am thinking 0-0 final due to the reason you mention...

[bosigga]

South Korea	7	4	2	1	13	6	+7	14
Iran	7	4	1	2	7	2	+5	13
Uzbekistan	7	3	2	2	6	5	+1	11
Qatar	7	2	1	4	4	8	−4	7
Lebanon	8	1	2	5	3	12	−9	5

Top 2 teams advance to WC. 3rd place goes to play-off against Australia/Oman/Jordan. GD is the first tie-breaker I believe.

A draw in S.Korea - Iran would surely have both go through. The Uzbeks could also welcome Qatar with stuffed briefcases at the hotel if they lay down

[burkestar]

a dude i think your mistaken qatar are 4 points behind they will not be playing world cup football regardless of results

[bosigga]

a dude i think your mistaken qatar are 4 points behind they will not be playing world cup football regardless of results

yes I was talking about Uzbekistan as Qatar have nothing to play for. If they thrash Qatar by enough goals they can overtake 2nd place and avoid a play-off. It might only take a 4-0 result if Iran play a scoreless draw

[thefonzo]

a dude i think your mistaken qatar are 4 points behind they will not be playing world cup football regardless of results

I think by "stuffed briefcases" he meant paying them to lose to Uzbekistan by a shiitload of goals.

[thetrinity]

uzbeks would need a 4 goal win to jump iran if iran draw.

games are concurrent i believe, i havent seen draw odds on Pinny or 5dimes yet, id imagine close to even money.

[onemoregoal]

I prefer goals in the Uzbek game. Keep an eye on the draw price though for SK game, at the moment its 2.40 and hasnt really moved, so its the books just guessing... if it starts to drop, better idea.
SK and Iran draw would suit SK better, obviously because a draw fix could mean Iran fukk themselves if Uzbeks get their heavy win..
In conclusion:

[bosigga]

wowowewow

yeah i wonder what the odds will be for a draw by the time 5D puts up the lines

[vasilli07]

Friendly draw? Not too sure about that.

In comments that infuriated counterpart Carlos Queiroz, Choi said he wanted revenge for October's 1-0 defeat in Tehran where his team were "badly treated."

"The manners they showed were not good ... they were not hospitable. Aside from who makes it to the World Cup, I would like to beat Iran no matter what," Choi told reporters after his side's 1-0 win against Uzbekistan on Tuesday.

"Honestly, I dislike Iran more [than Uzbekistan]. I hope Uzbekistan make it to the World Cup."

Iran, who beat Lebanon 4-0 on Tuesday, have 13 points while Uzbekistan have 11.

Choi's comments did not go down well with Queiroz, who wanted an apology from the South Korean coach.

"Choi should apologize to the Iranian people," the Portuguese told reporters upon arrival in Seoul.

"He said the Korean team was badly treated in Iran but we gave the best treatment available. He humiliated the Iranian citizens."

The war of words escalated after the former Real Madrid coach accused the Koreans of not pushing harder for a bigger victory against the Uzbeks.

"I will buy an Uzbek uniform and give it to Choi as a present," the Iran boss quipped.

[Akatana]

Friendly draw? Not too sure about that.

Absolutely agree, yes a draw is very likely in this game, but it's not going to be as easy and friendly as some suggest, i am Iranian and follow these Asian side's pretty closely and as i said yes the draw is very likely but then again in my pure analysis and opinion i see value on ML's and possibly over's and AH's. THIS GAME HAS FIERCE RIVALRY REGARDLESS OF THE TABLE AND THE DRAW FAVORING BOTH SIDES. Not to mention that Iran and Carlos Queiroz know they cannot become complacent and take this game for granted knowing how dodgy those Arabs are. As a fan i want my country to humiliate South Korea and believe they have the ability to do so although it will not be easy. And even as a clinical observer i know that there is good value leaning on the away side.
MY PICK IS: IRAN PK @ 2.720 on pinny




P.S. : Some may think that my pick is based on the fact that i'm Iranian, and that is partly true but i'm also picking them through analysis and the value that it represents and the occasion makes it extremely fun and exciting for me to bet it, since i don't really buy into that "don't bet on your team"--crap! I believe if you are betting on your team with a clinical mind there is no problem plus for me personally it's fun to do so sometimes. (Not all the time)

[vasilli07]

I will lean Iran pk too. Assuming Uzbekistan win by 3 goals(being generous since they have score less than a goal per game), South Korea will need to lose by at least 4 goals for them to be ko. And Koreans are missing 3 important players, Ki Sung-Yeung(Swansea), Koo Ja-Cheol(Wolfsburg) and Park Chu-Young(Arsenal).

[Akatana]

Good luck to us!
It's going to be a hell of a game i'm sure!
Also one of the reason's i'm confident with a good possibility of an away surprise (well if Iran win's i wouldn't go as far as calling it a surprise) is because of Carlos Queiroz's management. He is one that know's how to prepare and develop players mentally which most other Iran managers lacked not to mention his excellent preparation skills and also a few of Iran's talented and experienced players that are making the team tick! e.g. Nekounam,Ghoochanejad,Khalatbari,Teymour ian etc. The team did have some bad results in the beginning of the campaign but that was the time that Queiroz was developing the team but now they look like a whole different team and it is not a coincidence that they do so. Plus they have conceded way less than SK overall so defensively they have also improved a lot and have shown that they can handle SK's attacking prowess already, but i don't think Iran will choose to play only defensively, they are moving the ball around fantastically and are creating too many scoring chances in all games that they have played recently since Queiroz took care of the offensive problem's that the team had before.

[thetrinity]

all talk IMO too much money to be made to make the world cup, pinnacle never put up a draw line on this one

[Akatana]

[frugalgambler]

5dimes has the Iran draw line at +150. And Uzbekistan at -290. So the lines are here. I think Uzbeks is a no-brainer, possibly parlayed with Australia or something like that (or take -1.5 line for -110). Now, for Iran I am not sure, but logically the draw makes the most sense.

[thetrinity]

ya i saw 5d had the draw up, kinda weird pinnacle only has the o/u and pk up for this iran south korea game though?

[frugalgambler]

ya i saw 5d had the draw up, kinda weird pinnacle only has the o/u and pk up for this iran south korea game though?

bookmaker also has similar lines. i am a little wary to play too much though, I am more confident in Brazil trumping Mexico than in Uzbeks.

[Goat Milk]

South Korea should win that game. You guys are on another planet if you think South Korea wants Iran as part of the WC in 2014. They want to destroy Iran....

[frugalgambler]

South Korea should win that game. You guys are on another planet if you think South Korea wants Iran as part of the WC in 2014. They want to destroy Iran....

Its not like Korea is a powerhouse and if Iran puts a bus in front of the goal it might be tough for Koreans. But yeah I am leaning Korea or even better u2.

[frugalgambler]

Its not like Korea is a powerhouse and if Iran puts a bus in front of the goal it might be tough for Koreans. But yeah I am leaning Korea or even better u2.

Iran allowed only 2 goals in 7 WC qualies. u2 it is.

[Johndrama]

you're fuckked akatana, I'm on iran as well. Who wants money, grab korea.

ALL ABOARD THE FADE TRAIN YEEEEEAH

[TwoWays]

you're fuckked akatana, I'm on iran as well. Who wants money, grab korea.

ALL ABOARD THE FADE TRAIN YEEEEEAH

what's this all about?

[Johndrama]

what's this all about?

ignore me, i'm just trolling.
I'm on a phenomenal losing spree and each time I'm tailing, that game is over before it starts.
I'm just laughing, imagining akatana doing some strong research on the game, doing what may be a solid pick, then I come tailing and fuckk it all up

[frugalgambler]

ignore me, i'm just trolling.
I'm on a phenomenal losing spree and each time I'm tailing, that game is over before it starts.
I'm just laughing, imagining akatana doing some strong research on the game, doing what may be a solid pick, then I come tailing and fuckk it all up

Akatana is clearly rooting for Iran. Not a good idea to bet on a game in this situation, hard to stay objective. I think this is why the Mexico lines are so valuable at the confed cup, a lot of mexicans are betting with their heart not their mind.

[alex0]

my pick goes to Korea win , Jordan win, and uzbekistan over 2.5 good luck all

[tommygun]

avoid this game, it stinks gentlemen

[Akatana]

you're fuckked akatana, I'm on iran as well. Who wants money, grab korea.

ALL ABOARD THE FADE TRAIN YEEEEEAH

HAHAHAHA John! Were fuckkked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE THE FADE TRAIN YEAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

[alex0]

I think by "stuffed briefcases" he meant paying them to lose to Uzbekistan by a shiitload of goals.

looks like uzbekistan was waiting for briefcases

[teeder]

avoid this game, it stinks gentlemen

Of course it does, mainly because Iran is the most boring team in the world to watch - ten men behind the ball from opening kickoff, no attack at all.

[vasilli07]

With Uzbekistan losing now, both teams should be happy with a draw now.

[teeder]

I doubt the Koreans are happy with a draw, they're still pressing like bastards. As for the Iranians, they might be boring but they have very good players; it takes a lot of quality to defend the way they do. Only two goals conceded in seven matches is pretty amazing when you think of it -

[vasilli07]

Goal!!!! Iran 1-0

[hundo]

Cash the O.5 in that one!

[Akatana]

BOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!