RAS Update through week 7: Lost every week

Edward-RAS · 10-20-17, 01:07 PM

You want to know why I always bring up your shilling of BettingResource? It's because it is so obvious!

Here are just a handful of examples:

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3421998-betting-through-service-plays.html#post27189962

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3427424-redskins-7-mnf-p2.html#post27248783

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/service-plays/3426717-colin-cowherd-blazing-5-a.html#post27247512

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/service-plays/3425268-long-term-winners.html#post27225660

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/service-plays/3420483-ras-week-1-a.html#post27176959

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/soccer-betting/3417405-5-picks-write-up-saturday-epl.html#post27155680

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3409851-two-nice-mlb-bets-afternoon.html

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3404221-success-buying-betting-packages.html#post27065559

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/handicapper-think-tank/3390962-convert-moneyline-expected-margin.html#post26976126

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3390233-lay-betting-betting-exchanges.html

In each and every post above you'll see MaddyMax shilling for bettingresource in some manner or another. There are at least 30+ examples of this on SBR alone.

Watergate · 10-20-17, 01:28 PM

So where are the RAS picks in this thread? This is the service plays thread, correct?

downsouth · 10-20-17, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Watergate

So where are the RAS picks in this thread? This is the service plays thread, correct?

Service plays and promote your agenda. You must have missed the memo.

Watergate · 10-20-17, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Service plays and promote your agenda. You must have missed the memo.

That's right. Sorry I was out of the office last week.

downsouth · 10-20-17, 01:44 PM

Guy is 58-58-2 for the football season. Nothing to beat your chest about but hardly the end of the world some of you are making this out to be. And immediately prior to the start of college ran an NFLX/WNBA sample that went 15-7. Guy having one slightly down year and you guys are acting like it been bad forever.

As far as the transparency thing. Why does he need to post his plays when he is not actively soliciting new clients? I personally think the new release model is great. Why I would of course love better results the closing line value is still there and the new model allows to get every release number. Not some, not most, but all of them.

Expensive, yes? But again Im sure there is a niche of his former clients that are betting enough to justify the costs and that is who he is working with.

His results have to speak for themselves. Past five years has finished in the plus for football every year, up almost 85 units in basketball with 95% of releases being for single units.

And MaddyMax is obviously shooting an angle looking for an agenda here. That Bettingresource scam must be struggling so its back to bash RAS. Give it a few before he is back on the you should try bettingresource, they win everything with zero transparency and nothing verifiable but you should sign up.

MaddyMax · 10-20-17, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by Edward-RAS

You want to know why I always bring up your shilling of BettingResource? It's because it is so obvious!

Here are just a handful of examples:

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3421998-betting-through-service-plays.html#post27189962

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3427424-redskins-7-mnf-p2.html#post27248783

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/service-plays/3426717-colin-cowherd-blazing-5-a.html#post27247512

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/service-plays/3425268-long-term-winners.html#post27225660

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/service-plays/3420483-ras-week-1-a.html#post27176959

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/soccer-betting/3417405-5-picks-write-up-saturday-epl.html#post27155680

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3409851-two-nice-mlb-bets-afternoon.html

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3404221-success-buying-betting-packages.html#post27065559

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/handicapper-think-tank/3390962-convert-moneyline-expected-margin.html#post26976126

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3390233-lay-betting-betting-exchanges.html

In each and every post above you'll see MaddyMax shilling for bettingresource in some manner or another. There are at least 30+ examples of this on SBR alone.

There you go diverting topic. I wasn't shilling. At the time of those posts i was following bettingresource's free picks on their social media and pointing out the fact that there are free services and cappers out there that do much better than your pathetic service. i name other cappers and other services as well. But way to go taking select sports out of contest. I was talking about bettingresource in most of the threads you posted because you use them as your escape route whenever someone calls you out. You are doing ithere again and few weeks later say the same thing and probably usethis post as an example. your tricks are getting old.

Right now the hottest capper is Maxdalury and i have a thread in players talk with his plays that he posts publicly on google https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...20-0-70-a.html

Now are you going to say that i am shilling MD? Well clown, before you do make note that those are free plays that he posts publicly on google forum.

And that is my point, there will always be free cappers that do much better than your. Hell even any paid service will do better than you now that you established as yourself as a 40% capper.

chaoshin · 10-20-17, 01:50 PM

Bettingresource are running a free pick 'month' they said on the first they will provide their 10u and regular picks till they are in the +, it's 20th and they still sending out plays. Some of these sports im not well versed in but even I can see these picks are shit so....if you guys want you can get their picks from their free picks facebook group not rly convinced from them so far
edit: btw just to show how bad some plays are these were from yesterday:

Oct 19: NCAAF: Arkansas St - Louisiana Lafayette (ended 47-3)

Back: L Lafayette +12 Odds: 1.91

Risk: 8 Units Return:

Oct 19: NFL: Oakland - Kansas City (ended 31-30)

Back: Under 46.5 Odds: 1.91
Risk: 8 Units Return:

MaddyMax · 10-20-17, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Guy is 58-58-2 for the football season. Nothing to beat your chest about but hardly the end of the world some of you are making this out to be. And immediately prior to the start of college ran an NFLX/WNBA sample that went 15-7. Guy having one slightly down year and you guys are acting like it been bad forever.

As far as the transparency thing. Why does he need to post his plays when he is not actively soliciting new clients? I personally think the new release model is great. Why I would of course love better results the closing line value is still there and the new model allows to get every release number. Not some, not most, but all of them.

Expensive, yes? But again Im sure there is a niche of his former clients that are betting enough to justify the costs and that is who he is working with.

His results have to speak for themselves. Past five years has finished in the plus for football every year, up almost 85 units in basketball with 95% of releases being for single units.

And MaddyMax is obviously shooting an angle looking for an agenda here. That Bettingresource scam must be struggling so its back to bash RAS. Give it a few before he is back on the you should try bettingresource, they win everything with zero transparency and nothing verifiable but you should sign up.

its no secret you are either ras employee or ras's other handle. you guys once again managed divert topic and hijack the thread.

he is not soliciting new clients? why is he emailing promos to those who sign up for his forum? why is he/you not telling the real record when someone emails you inquiring about the service? all your response is sales tactives and trying to sell subscription.

you guys stayed quite in the hole but now coming out trying to suck some noobs in just in time for college basketball start.

Raiderguy101 · 10-20-17, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Guy is 58-58-2 for the football season. Nothing to beat your chest about but hardly the end of the world some of you are making this out to be. And immediately prior to the start of college ran an NFLX/WNBA sample that went 15-7. Guy having one slightly down year and you guys are acting like it been bad forever.

As far as the transparency thing. Why does he need to post his plays when he is not actively soliciting new clients? I personally think the new release model is great. Why I would of course love better results the closing line value is still there and the new model allows to get every release number. Not some, not most, but all of them.

Expensive, yes? But again Im sure there is a niche of his former clients that are betting enough to justify the costs and that is who he is working with.

His results have to speak for themselves. Past five years has finished in the plus for football every year, up almost 85 units in basketball with 95% of releases being for single units.

And MaddyMax is obviously shooting an angle looking for an agenda here. That Bettingresource scam must be struggling so its back to bash RAS. Give it a few before he is back on the you should try bettingresource, they win everything with zero transparency and nothing verifiable but you should sign up.

Even if he isn't actively seeking new clients, he should still be transparent. It's the principle.

And how do we know he's 58-58? Cause you said so? You could be a RAS employee or shill for all we know. For the record I don't think you are but my point is anybody can spew out anything and without true accurate taransparency (like RAS used to do), nothing is believable.

downsouth · 10-20-17, 02:17 PM

Over 11k posts on this forum and ive met no less than 50 people who posts here yet im just here as an employee or edward himself. You started with an agenda and the rough start has enabled you to continue.

Congrats on your great twitter find with a hit start. I hope you'll eventually find that angle to rope a few suckers in.

downsouth · 10-20-17, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Raiderguy101

Even if he isn't actively seeking new clients, he should still be transparent. It's the principle.

And how do we know he's 58-58? Cause you said so? You could be a RAS employee or shill for all we know. For the record I don't think you are but my point is anybody can spew out anything and without true accurate taransparency (like RAS used to do), nothing is believable.

Fair enough, but why does he need to post a record? To appease randoms? Everyone who gets the plays gets full transparency and a running record documenting all the plays.

MaddyMax · 10-20-17, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Fair enough, but why does he need to post a record? To appease randoms? Everyone who gets the plays gets full transparency and a running record documenting all the plays.

stop pretending like you/ras are not selling picks actively anymore. You guys are sending promos all the time to the bettingtalk forum (ras owned) members. when someoen emails ras customerservice inquiring about the service all we hear is dodging questions about the current record and how greatyou have been for years and how youarebest in the indsutry bla bal bla. Tell me this. Why did you guys come out of thehole just in time for the start of college basketball. i will tell you why. itsbecause you need noobs to sign up.

why are you guys paying of rx mods to delete threads when someone calls you out or says how bad your service is doing? too bad for you guys the mods here have some integrity.

Raiderguy101 · 10-20-17, 02:43 PM

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Raiderguy101 · 10-20-17, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Fair enough, but why does he need to post a record? To appease randoms? Everyone who gets the plays gets full transparency and a running record documenting all the plays.

Because if and when RAS ever goes back to selling to the public, I think it is very important to know how he did. I seriously doubt RAS is done forever selling to the public. He is for now, but that can change in the future.

Again, i'm no hater of RAS. Like I've said i've praised him numerous times for his awesome record keeping. And he tracked transparently before some of these other touts did it. I think he was one of the first to do this, if not the first. And I just think he should stick by his own words which I posted in post 25.

I think deep down RAS knows I'm right. And maybe he'll change his stance on this. But that's how I feel and I'm sticking with it.

Raiderguy101 · 10-20-17, 03:03 PM

Here's how passionate I am with transparency. You even chimed in with RAS's transparency.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/service-plays/3341248-docs-sucks-how-do-they-stay-business.html

Here's a thread where I praise RAS. Post 35.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/service-plays/3155765-viper-16u-double-max-play.html

And i've praised him dozens of times but I don't feel like looking them up. I'm very passionate about exposing these lying penetrating touts. This is a slimy business and the bad ones need to be outed.

MaddyMax · 10-20-17, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Raiderguy101

Because if and when RAS ever goes back to selling to the public, I think it is very important to know how he did. I seriously doubt RAS is done forever selling to the public. He is for now, but that can change in the future.

Again, i'm no hater of RAS. Like I've said i've praised him numerous times for his awesome record keeping. And he tracked transparently before some of these other touts did it. I think he was one of the first to do this, if not the first. And I just think he should stick by his own words which I posted in post 25.

I think deep down RAS knows I'm right. And maybe he'll change his stance on this. But that's how I feel and I'm sticking with it.

DOn't believe a word when they say they are not actively selling to the public. This whole private thing is just to create false demand and to suck in newbies.

getitdone3000 · 10-20-17, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Guy is 58-58-2 for the football season. Nothing to beat your chest about but hardly the end of the world some of you are making this out to be. And immediately prior to the start of college ran an NFLX/WNBA sample that went 15-7. Guy having one slightly down year and you guys are acting like it been bad forever.

As far as the transparency thing. Why does he need to post his plays when he is not actively soliciting new clients? I personally think the new release model is great. Why I would of course love better results the closing line value is still there and the new model allows to get every release number. Not some, not most, but all of them.

Expensive, yes? But again Im sure there is a niche of his former clients that are betting enough to justify the costs and that is who he is working with.

His results have to speak for themselves. Past five years has finished in the plus for football every year, up almost 85 units in basketball with 95% of releases being for single units.

And MaddyMax is obviously shooting an angle looking for an agenda here. That Bettingresource scam must be struggling so its back to bash RAS. Give it a few before he is back on the you should try bettingresource, they win everything with zero transparency and nothing verifiable but you should sign up.

what ??? did i hear it wrong ras cap nflx

i thought ras only do cfb and cbb ras just bought someone nflx package and sell it to his client with 20x higher

The_Ivan · 10-20-17, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by getitdone3000

what ??? did i hear it wrong ras cap nflx

i thought ras only do cfb and cbb ras just bought someone nflx package and sell it to his client with 20x higher

getitdone300, I have drank much Popov and am now ready to pee in your mouth.

chickendinner4u · 10-20-17, 05:45 PM

Wow this thread got lit up

getitdone3000 · 10-20-17, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by The_Ivan

getitdone300, I have drank much Popov and am now ready to pee in your mouth.

most his football sub will leave him after this football season so in the future ras will sell nhl nba soccer horse tennis and it will be going private

MaddyMax · 10-23-17, 01:42 PM

another week in the red for ras. business as usual.

getitdone3000 · 10-23-17, 02:04 PM

iam not shilling for bobbalfe but i be with him for 2 years in football and he hit 60% on football last year and this year awhy pay 5k for just 8 week ras gonna sux all your money before you know it.

Raiderguy101 · 10-24-17, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by MaddyMax

another week in the red for ras. business as usual.

What was his record?

cubswin · 10-24-17, 01:40 PM

The Ivan has no problem paying $4,000 for picks and then says he drinks popov , the cheapest Vodka you can buy .

getitdone3000 · 10-24-17, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by cubswin

The Ivan has no problem paying $4,000 for picks and then says he drinks popov , the cheapest Vodka you can buy .

becuz ras suck all his money and they suck more for cbb this cbb season

MaddyMax · 10-24-17, 03:07 PM

expect a lot of chasing next week

garvardntl · 10-24-17, 03:18 PM

If he is still soliciting new clients, record keeping is essential. And it should be easy to verify if he is, or he isn't.

Edward-RAS, if I email you from a random gmail address stating I'm interested in paying the fee you charge, and I'm willing to pay immediately, will I or will I not get on the list starting this week of football?

Very simple question.

getitdone3000 · 10-24-17, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by garvardntl

If he is still soliciting new clients, record keeping is essential. And it should be easy to verify if he is, or he isn't.

Edward-RAS, if I email you from a random gmail address stating I'm interested in paying the fee you charge, and I'm willing to pay immediately, will I or will I not get on the list starting this week of football?

Very simple question.

the reason they said they go private just becuz they want to raise up the package and make them special of course they accept every client for the money i never heard anyone said that they make money with ras for the last 3 year most of them alway complain the package is so high they dont even make the money that thay pay for the package that they bought from ras last year the cbb package was 10k even if you bet 1k a bet you still dont make money back from paying for the package

MaddyMax · 10-27-17, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by garvardntl

If he is still soliciting new clients, record keeping is essential. And it should be easy to verify if he is, or he isn't.

Edward-RAS, if I email you from a random gmail address stating I'm interested in paying the fee you charge, and I'm willing to pay immediately, will I or will I not get on the list starting this week of football?

Very simple question.

Nope. He will divert topic and tell you how his service is private and make you feel kind of unwelcome to get your interest and to create the false demand. Most noobs will cave in and fall for this and try harder and get on board. If dont reply or ignore his bullshit, he will later send you an email pretending to recruiting new clients and will throw in a complimentary invite to join the service.

i feel sorry for the noobs who are getting scammed.

garvardntl · 10-30-17, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by MaddyMax

Nope. He will divert topic and tell you how his service is private and make you feel kind of unwelcome to get your interest and to create the false demand. Most noobs will cave in and fall for this and try harder and get on board. If dont reply or ignore his bullshit, he will later send you an email pretending to recruiting new clients and will throw in a complimentary invite to join the service.

i feel sorry for the noobs who are getting scammed.

This is what's expected of touts, but generalizing, generally, is a bad idea.

Good luck, I won't be subscribing any time soon!

1to1000 · 10-31-17, 11:44 AM

Screw all these touts. RAS is a scam.

getitdone3000 · 11-02-17, 05:51 PM

i heard he charge 8k for first 10 week of cbb and over 13k for full season .

jake3pkkpkwpk · 11-03-17, 06:11 AM

should have held a little contest between wes nd ras most expensive-you vote?

getitdone3000 · 11-03-17, 10:16 AM

13k for cbb season how the hell in the world his sub gonna make that money back even his service not guarantee to win for the season and not too many book take big action on the cbb

downsouth · 11-03-17, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by getitdone3000

13k for cbb season how the hell in the world his sub gonna make that money back even his service not guarantee to win for the season and not too many book take big action on the cbb

I don't think you grasp his sub base very well. You are not talking about your nickel or probably even your dime player. The one I know personally is firing much larger average wagers.

RAS is not remotely advertising to the general forum player(not advertising to anyone). So while me and you may think it is expensive to his average player it probably represents a much more affordable number. And if he has people willing to pay that kind of cash for betting picks odds are they are not your run of the mill weekend warrior(they are not stupid, spur of the moment or desperate).

And not sure where you got the 13k number from but it is incorrect.

His most recent past two seasons have average over +17 units per season (go back even five years and results are similar at just over +17/per).