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[jackpot269]

[jackpot269]

there were hundreds of people arrested for just being there and committing no violence whatsoever. Remember the first person (I believe, if not the first , one of the first) as a 70-something grandma with cancer who was sentenced to 2 months in prison.

These other hundreds of people you can look up yourself. Its public knowledge. Heck one guy was sentenced to 20 years and he wasn't anywhere near the capitol.

You have no proof. It could be true, but without proof we will never know. There is lots of reasons one could be sentenced for a crime and not be there. Just more spinning.

[khicks26]

There’s a big difference between getting everything I want and the government spending the money I’m going to send in tomorrow wisely, enough so that vast chunks of the population need to rely on my tax dollars every month so they’re not destitute. Your retirement? Am I to assume you own stocks after saying that stocks are just unpaid wages to employees?

Where was it greater at that point in history? No other place came close, and the fact that those people moved here proves it. Brazil had vast amounts of open land, cheap and slave labor, and they were nowhere near as wealthy as the United States. No one else had as much capitalism as America did, which is a major reason America had such a high standard of living compared to the rest of the world. Having something doesn't tell you how much you have. You have money, but Elon Musk has more. Yes, it is the left’s fault, primarily because they are the ones who will defend the failing status quo if it gets them power. It’s not over my head at all, you’re just brainwashed by the left.

It’s not whataboutism, it’s pointing out that you go after Reagan because he was a capitalist, and ignore how much smoother the economy has been since he took over. The fact is that from 1953-1981, the top bracket never got under 70% and we had 7 recessions. Since Reagan cut taxes, we’ve had 4 recessions. 1 was due to Covid, 2 were the mildest on record. 2008 was because of the belief that housing would rise in perpetuity.

Sure, labor creates wealth, but more productive labor creates more wealth. That’s ultimately my problem with the left in America, we desperately need to make changes, so people can be more productive with their labor, but if we made those changes, it would probably permanently doom the democrats. Like I said, defund the police, ban fossil fuels, open the borders and give out citizenship to anyone, men can get pregnant and women dressed up like they’re in A Handmaiden’s Tale aren’t winners at the ballot box. The left needs people poor and dependent on them so they can get power.

India for decades was run by the democratic socialist Congress party and the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty. Modi has only been in power since 2011, and it was only after India almost collapsed in the early 90s did Rao, Vajpayee and Singh start making reforms to open the markets up a bit. It’s still far left and everything the left wants America to be. It’s not ethnic cleansing, it has nothing to do with ethnicity. I’d take Clarence Thomas, a black man, over you, a white traitor any day of the week.

Okay, I should have written it’s made some people rich, but no country as a whole rich. If it had, Russia would be wealthier than the US, since it had significantly more territory.

You claim I don’t understand history, yet you admitted you know nothing about Brazil’s history of slavery and confiscated indigenous land, while I was naming actual names. You know what you hear from socialists/communists on YouTube, I know history.

I never thought you were a smart guy. I’ve always thought you were evil, stupid, and brainwashed, and I was right.

Yea the country would fall apart without Josh and his small mind. LMAO 401k like many Americans, its not like you have a choice.

Not the point and still pointless. More false equivalence, still pointless.

I go after Reagan because he was a douche bag. Capital has nothing to do with it. Also the biggest recession since the great depression.

Oh now labor creates wealth because I made you look stupid. The culture war is why we don't have wealth and it's not the rich hording wealth. LOL You are looking stupid again. Yea its over your head. LOL

India was a British colony, which still makes it a basket case today. That's why it's run by a right wing fascist. Maybe you should move there. You would fit right in. LOL

This is the stupidest thing you have ever said. Shows you don't know how the world works.

Left and right mean different things to you and me. Most everything in this world comes down to money and greed. I could give a rats ass what you think is left and right. Your a fuking idiot. You know history that fits your agenda which is narrow, you understand all most nothing about history.

As if we care. LOL I bet you underestimate many things in life as you hyper focus on the dumbest shit there is. I see that in every post you write.

Are you a brooks clone?

[guitarjosh]

Nobody gets everything they want. You will never get YOUR money's worth. The left is bad and you want everything done your way. You think I like giving Trump money to make my retirement disappear?

I have never said people didn't come here. The myth is you saying how great it was. History says your full of shit. YEA YEA YEA it was better here. Pointless. Your talking point is a garbage platitude. Did they not have capitalism where they came from? Did they have a vast amount of open land? Did they have cheap and slave labor? All your saying is that capitalism goes to expanding markets and where labor is cheap. It has nothing to do with the land under it. After America it moved to China where it still is today. YEA YEA YEA its all the left's fault and has nothing to do with the nature beast. You sound like an idiot with this garbage because you don't understand the topic and want to dilute the conversation with stupid shit. That's why I don't want to talk to you about this, it's over your head.

Now its whataboutism? Stalin and FDR won WWII anyone should speak higher of them than Reagan. Does that mean I liked everything they did and wouldn't say bad shit about them? NO Reagan was a POS and you suck his balls. LOL

Labor creates wealth, capitalist profit and own that wealth. Yes a fry cook does create wealth, without him there is no wealth. You don't even understand basic terms, ridiculous.

India is run by fascist Modi. LOL So you don't want to kill anyone you just want to do ethnic cleansing. Great! What a fuking clown.

Imperialism hasn’t made anyone rich. What? You are the definition of parallel universe. LOL

You don't understand history. LOL

I bet in your universe that's a true statement. Here in the real world, your a box or rocks.

LMAO GTFOH LMAO


I use to think you were a smart guy, turns out your thick as a brick and no new thoughts can enter your head. If your not Brook85, your his brother.

There’s a big difference between getting everything I want and the government spending the money I’m going to send in tomorrow wisely, enough so that vast chunks of the population need to rely on my tax dollars every month so they’re not destitute. Your retirement? Am I to assume you own stocks after saying that stocks are just unpaid wages to employees?

Where was it greater at that point in history? No other place came close, and the fact that those people moved here proves it. Brazil had vast amounts of open land, cheap and slave labor, and they were nowhere near as wealthy as the United States. No one else had as much capitalism as America did, which is a major reason America had such a high standard of living compared to the rest of the world. Having something doesn't tell you how much you have. You have money, but Elon Musk has more. Yes, it is the left’s fault, primarily because they are the ones who will defend the failing status quo if it gets them power. It’s not over my head at all, you’re just brainwashed by the left.

It’s not whataboutism, it’s pointing out that you go after Reagan because he was a capitalist, and ignore how much smoother the economy has been since he took over. The fact is that from 1953-1981, the top bracket never got under 70% and we had 7 recessions. Since Reagan cut taxes, we’ve had 4 recessions. 1 was due to Covid, 2 were the mildest on record. 2008 was because of the belief that housing would rise in perpetuity.

Sure, labor creates wealth, but more productive labor creates more wealth. That’s ultimately my problem with the left in America, we desperately need to make changes, so people can be more productive with their labor, but if we made those changes, it would probably permanently doom the democrats. Like I said, defund the police, ban fossil fuels, open the borders and give out citizenship to anyone, men can get pregnant and women dressed up like they’re in A Handmaiden’s Tale aren’t winners at the ballot box. The left needs people poor and dependent on them so they can get power.

India for decades was run by the democratic socialist Congress party and the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty. Modi has only been in power since 2011, and it was only after India almost collapsed in the early 90s did Rao, Vajpayee and Singh start making reforms to open the markets up a bit. It’s still far left and everything the left wants America to be. It’s not ethnic cleansing, it has nothing to do with ethnicity. I’d take Clarence Thomas, a black man, over you, a white traitor any day of the week.

Okay, I should have written it’s made some people rich, but no country as a whole rich. If it had, Russia would be wealthier than the US, since it had significantly more territory.

You claim I don’t understand history, yet you admitted you know nothing about Brazil’s history of slavery and confiscated indigenous land, while I was naming actual names. You know what you hear from socialists/communists on YouTube, I know history.

I never thought you were a smart guy. I’ve always thought you were evil, stupid, and brainwashed, and I was right.

[khicks26]

Again, I don’t mind paying taxes if I get my money’s worth. Right now, all I’m doing is funding legal vote buying schemes as the country continues to go down the pipes. That’s the problem, there’s no political profit in a real long term fix, the political profit is in a monthly check being sent out. If technology made things better, there’s not going to be any poverty since that technology is available around the world.

Those aren’t myths, they’re backed up by census data. People moved to the land of opportunity because life was so much better here than over there, and our capitalism is to thank for that. It’s the same with E/W Germany, Singapore and Malaysia, Hong Kong and China, N/S Korea, etc.

He’s no worse than you were. It’s funny, you’ve spoken higher of Stalin than Reagan, and Stalin had literal gulags. Would it make you feel better if Reagan ordered the firebombing of civilian population centers like FDR? Or maybe he could have locked up his own people the way FDR did. The only reason you trash Reagan is that you hate him and his policies. If you like the far left policies of FDR and Stalin, you’ll defend them.

Rich people didn’t “steal the wealth”, they created most of it. The wealth of the country isn’t made by fry cooks. Again, the problem is people graduating from school and not having the skills to produce much.

I never said kill anyone. I’m in favor of rounding them up and sending them to a country where they’ll be happier. India is the world’s largest democracy. It’s built on the principles of democracy, secularism, and socialism. It’s multicultural, multi-ethnic, multilingual, and multi religious. India also has few white people, exactly what the left wants for America. Send them over there.

No, imperialism hasn’t made anyone rich. Again, if it did, we would see everyone with similar proportional results. Russia in the 2nd half of the 1800s had the 2nd largest empire in history, and it was a poor, backward country compared to the rest of Europe. If what you’re saying is true, Russia should have been richer than the USA, who had relatively few colonies. You have to rely on cherry-picked anecdotal evidence, not the records as a whole. I never said you live in a parallel universe, I said you claim to know what would happen in a parallel universe where America had no slavery.

I’m not projecting anything, I’m just pointing out the record of history.

You’re like the black knight in the Monty Python movie after I’ve just maimed your arguments. “’Tis but a flesh wound”, as your positions hemorrhage to a factual argument.

Nobody gets everything they want. You will never get YOUR money's worth. The left is bad and you want everything done your way. You think I like giving Trump money to make my retirement disappear?

I have never said people didn't come here. The myth is you saying how great it was. History says your full of shit. YEA YEA YEA it was better here. Pointless. Your talking point is a garbage platitude. Did they not have capitalism where they came from? Did they have a vast amount of open land? Did they have cheap and slave labor? All your saying is that capitalism goes to expanding markets and where labor is cheap. It has nothing to do with the land under it. After America it moved to China where it still is today. YEA YEA YEA its all the left's fault and has nothing to do with the nature beast. You sound like an idiot with this garbage because you don't understand the topic and want to dilute the conversation with stupid shit. That's why I don't want to talk to you about this, it's over your head.

Now its whataboutism? Stalin and FDR won WWII anyone should speak higher of them than Reagan. Does that mean I liked everything they did and wouldn't say bad shit about them? NO Reagan was a POS and you suck his balls. LOL

Labor creates wealth, capitalist profit and own that wealth. Yes a fry cook does create wealth, without him there is no wealth. You don't even understand basic terms, ridiculous.

India is run by fascist Modi. LOL So you don't want to kill anyone you just want to do ethnic cleansing. Great! What a fuking clown.

Imperialism hasn’t made anyone rich. What? You are the definition of parallel universe. LOL

You don't understand history. LOL

I bet in your universe that's a true statement. Here in the real world, your a box or rocks.

LMAO GTFOH LMAO


I use to think you were a smart guy, turns out your thick as a brick and no new thoughts can enter your head. If your not Brook85, your his brother.

[guitarjosh]

LMAO

I say: You just want to not pay tax's, blame the left for everything, and greed is good.
You prove it in the reply. Classic.

All of which has nothing to do with 1800's America and the myths you believe. Pointless. LOL

So, nothing about what a rotten person Reagan was? Most of the problems today you can track right back to Reagan. But the rich got richer so Josh is happy. LOL

No, rich people have stolen the wealth of the country and people want government to not be bought and paid for by the rich.

Now who is being violent? LOL Eliminate the left, who else in history said that? Maybe put them in camps or something. LOL

Yes, imperialism has made many countries rich. Yes, you used a false equivalence and told me I live in a parallel universe. You are accusing me of what you do. As I said projection is all you have.

Yes, this shit is funny as fuk. You say I'm helping make your point because you are projecting your point onto me. LMAO

You are like watching a hamster on a wheel. Keep running Biscuit.

Again, I don’t mind paying taxes if I get my money’s worth. Right now, all I’m doing is funding legal vote buying schemes as the country continues to go down the pipes. That’s the problem, there’s no political profit in a real long term fix, the political profit is in a monthly check being sent out. If technology made things better, there’s not going to be any poverty since that technology is available around the world.

Those aren’t myths, they’re backed up by census data. People moved to the land of opportunity because life was so much better here than over there, and our capitalism is to thank for that. It’s the same with E/W Germany, Singapore and Malaysia, Hong Kong and China, N/S Korea, etc.

He’s no worse than you were. It’s funny, you’ve spoken higher of Stalin than Reagan, and Stalin had literal gulags. Would it make you feel better if Reagan ordered the firebombing of civilian population centers like FDR? Or maybe he could have locked up his own people the way FDR did. The only reason you trash Reagan is that you hate him and his policies. If you like the far left policies of FDR and Stalin, you’ll defend them.

Rich people didn’t “steal the wealth”, they created most of it. The wealth of the country isn’t made by fry cooks. Again, the problem is people graduating from school and not having the skills to produce much.

I never said kill anyone. I’m in favor of rounding them up and sending them to a country where they’ll be happier. India is the world’s largest democracy. It’s built on the principles of democracy, secularism, and socialism. It’s multicultural, multi-ethnic, multilingual, and multi religious. India also has few white people, exactly what the left wants for America. Send them over there.

No, imperialism hasn’t made anyone rich. Again, if it did, we would see everyone with similar proportional results. Russia in the 2nd half of the 1800s had the 2nd largest empire in history, and it was a poor, backward country compared to the rest of Europe. If what you’re saying is true, Russia should have been richer than the USA, who had relatively few colonies. You have to rely on cherry-picked anecdotal evidence, not the records as a whole. I never said you live in a parallel universe, I said you claim to know what would happen in a parallel universe where America had no slavery.

I’m not projecting anything, I’m just pointing out the record of history.

You’re like the black knight in the Monty Python movie after I’ve just maimed your arguments. “’Tis but a flesh wound”, as your positions hemorrhage to a factual argument.

[Hareeba!]

It is hard to understand why anyone (like Hareeba) would insist Elon is a Nazi just based on that film.

But I think it's harder to understand why anyone (like you) would be demanding it's so clear that only mental illness could explain anyone seeing that and thinking "Huh, was that a Nazi salute I just saw??".


Neither of you even seem to want to see middle ground, let alone find it, or have a real discussion about anything. Political troll bots it feels like these days with you two.

Where did I label Musk a Nazi?

[Hareeba!]

Right now, if you import the parts to make a computer, you'll pay a massive tariff, but if you import the fully assembled computer, there's no tariff.

Truly a genius plan to re-shore manufacturing!

[jt315]

I did notice the polls, that show Trumps approval rating is down from the 70s into the low 40s.

It was the reason I mentioned that it looks like voters are already seeing they were duped.

Show me where you saw this in the polls .

rubbing it in that MAGA types are starting to recognize they have been duped.

Is he not following up on what he ran on? (Tariffs )


And I wouldn’t call a tick under 47%( RCP average ) problematic considering he’s more popular now than in his first term .

[khicks26]

Oh yes, the technology which can’t cross borders. That explains why India is so poor, the technology can’t be replicated there, it has nothing to do with the decades of democratic socialism you want being the law of the land. Mexico as well doesn’t have the technology that America has, which is why so many people want to move here. You’ll do anything other than admit the obvious.

I’m talking about his economic policies which led to an era of great prosperity and stable growth. The only thing he had to do with 2008 was lowering inflation so much the Fed could lower rates to 1%, which helped grow the housing bubble. The problem leading up to 2008 was the widespread belief from Pennsylvania Avenue to Wall Street to Main Street that housing would go up perpetually. You’re making a lot of accusations, but I’ll point out you also believe the conspiracy theory that H. W. Bush commandeered an SR-71 and flew to Europe or Asia in 1980 to hold secret meetings with high ranking Iranian officials to ensure the hostages weren’t released prior to the 1980 election. Everything you believe is debunked crap. I don’t have a problem with paying taxes if I’m getting my money’s worth, but all I get is a bunch of left wing politicians using it as a slush fund to bribe people to vote for them rather than getting them to be self reliant enough to not need subsidies. If the left didn’t have class warfare, what would they run on? Defund the police, women dressing up like they’re extras in A Handmaiden’s Tale, men can get pregnant, open the boarders and pass out citizenship like it’s candy on Halloween, and repeal the Industrial Revolution. They know their policies are horrible and unpopular, so they have to make people dependent on them to hold onto power.

Most want the government to make them better off, and the left has done a great job of kneecapping people to be dependent on the government in exchange for their votes.

Because the left is the problem. If we eliminate it from society, society is exponentially better off.

You claimed that America got rich by having slavery and confiscated indigenous land. I never implied both countries would have the same outcome, I flat out said that Brazil had more of both than America, and if that is what made America rich, Brazil would be richer. Of course, what made America rich was embracing individual freedom and private property rights, i.e. capitalism, the very things you want to abolish.

It’s not pointless at all, if you want to see if something works, you have to look at it every time it’s tried. What you have is nothing but logical fallacy. Again, if slavery and confiscating indigenous land made America rich, why isn’t Brazil richer, since they had more of both than America?

The only thing that’s laughable is you bringing up something, I point out how what you brought up actually helps my point, and you claiming that what you brought up is actually irrelevant.

LMAO

I say: You just want to not pay tax's, blame the left for everything, and greed is good.
You prove it in the reply. Classic.

All of which has nothing to do with 1800's America and the myths you believe. Pointless. LOL

So, nothing about what a rotten person Reagan was? Most of the problems today you can track right back to Reagan. But the rich got richer so Josh is happy. LOL

No, rich people have stolen the wealth of the country and people want government to not be bought and paid for by the rich.

Now who is being violent? LOL Eliminate the left, who else in history said that? Maybe put them in camps or something. LOL

Yes, imperialism has made many countries rich. Yes, you used a false equivalence and told me I live in a parallel universe. You are accusing me of what you do. As I said projection is all you have.

Yes, this shit is funny as fuk. You say I'm helping make your point because you are projecting your point onto me. LMAO

You are like watching a hamster on a wheel. Keep running Biscuit.

[Optional]

Duped . Lol

Let us know when you see the numbers in the polls support it .

I did notice the polls, that show Trumps approval rating is down from the 70s into the low 40s.

It was the reason I mentioned that it looks like voters are already seeing they were duped.

[jt315]

I suspect some of them are already facing the reality Trump has completely self owned himself with his "beautiful tariffs", and the billionaire backers he must bow to forced him to stop destroying the economy.

Once he tanked the bond market he no longer was in control of what he wanted to do.


Now is the time for panic merchants like you to take the high road and stop making it personal and rubbing it in that MAGA types are starting to recognize they have been duped.


There never was any real cogent plan at all, let alone a plan to help ordinary people with the cost of living or lower grocery prices or anything else ordinary people want and need.

The people on "all sides" are seeing it. Don't drive a wedge in front of them to stop the people coming together again.

Duped . Lol

Let us know when you see the numbers in the polls support it .

[Optional]

It is hard to understand why anyone (like Hareeba) would insist Elon is a Nazi just based on that film.

But I think it's harder to understand why anyone (like you) would be demanding it's so clear that only mental illness could explain anyone seeing that and thinking "Huh, was that a Nazi salute I just saw??".


Neither of you even seem to want to see middle ground, let alone find it, or have a real discussion about anything. Political troll bots it feels like these days with you two.

[DwightShrute]

Yeah it's mind boggling that everyone can't just understand that.


You do realize this conversation is not about Elon, or my opinion, but about your unbending defensiveness? The same thing you were ripping into Hareeba for.

You two have become mirror images.

if you see the world with nazi and Hitler lenses, you will see them everywhere. It's mind boggling.

[Optional]

how many other ways, other than touching your chest and pointing to the crowd, can one express that your heart goes out to you?

Yeah it's mind boggling that everyone can't just understand that.


You do realize this conversation is not about Elon, or my opinion, but about your unbending defensiveness? The same thing you were ripping into Hareeba for.

You two have become mirror images.

[DwightShrute]

Yeah I know right.

Sign of mental illness for people who can't see Elon is clearly just giving his heart to us. Such a loving gesture so cruelly misjudged.

What sort of twisted or ill mind would even think it looks anything like a Heil Hitler sign!? Crazy.

how many other ways, other than touching your chest and pointing to the crowd, can one express that your heart goes out to you? Why do so many politicians do it then, and why don't you ever accuse them of doing it?


If any person seriously thinks anyone of these people are literally doing the nazi salute, then they are suffering from some sort of mental disorder. Are there Nazis in the room with you now?

[Optional]

anyone who truly believes that Elon was doing a Nazi salute is suffering from some sort of mental disorder.

Yeah I know right.

Sign of mental illness for people who can't see Elon is clearly just giving his heart to us. Such a loving gesture so cruelly misjudged.

What sort of twisted or ill mind would even think it looks anything like a Heil Hitler sign!? Crazy.

[19th Hole]

Joke of The Day-

"Kamala Harris is trying to figure out her next chapter — and it might start with a think tank.

The former vice president, who lost to President Trump last fall, is weighing whether to launch an “institute for policy and ideas,” with longtime adviser Brian Nelson quietly reaching out to universities — including Stanford and Howard — about hosting the venture, according to multiple reports."

[DwightShrute]

I take your point Optional. Except that I still don't accept your nonsense about me being a "panic merchant"

When I see some evidence of the resident MAGATs accepting the truth I'll lay off the vitriol, but so far absolutely zero evidence that they have or are about to.

Something that is true doesn't require your belief.

If you stop your deception and lies, you might earn some credibility again. Sadly that will never happen because you are committed to the bullshit and there is no cure for TDS.

[Hareeba!]

I suspect some of them are already facing the reality Trump has completely self owned himself with his "beautiful tariffs", and the billionaire backers he must bow to forced him to stop destroying the economy.

Once he tanked the bond market he no longer was in control of what he wanted to do.


Now is the time for panic merchants like you to take the high road and stop making it personal and rubbing it in that MAGA types are starting to recognize they have been duped.


There never was any real cogent plan at all, let alone a plan to help ordinary people with the cost of living or lower grocery prices or anything else ordinary people want and need.

The people on "all sides" are seeing it. Don't drive a wedge in front of them to stop the people coming together again.

I take your point Optional. Except that I still don't accept your nonsense about me being a "panic merchant"

When I see some evidence of the resident MAGATs accepting the truth I'll lay off the vitriol, but so far absolutely zero evidence that they have or are about to.