Left, Right and Center. All things Political. The Political Forum.

[Mac4Lyfe]

the US takes in 1.2 million immigrants legally every year. No other country comes close. These people immigrated within the laws of the country made by civil servants elected by THE PEOPLE who live .

We are the world leader in EVERYTHING because we take in immigrants. Illegal and legal immigrants is why we’re the best. The big secret both parties won’t tell you is that we need illegal immigrants too. Shhh, don’t tell anyone that but without illegals, a loaf of bread would cost $10 bucks. Trump knows that but he won’t say it because he wants votes. O

[slewfan]

We are now the world leader in terrorists attacks. America has no leader today and no one in the world respects the country.


Houthis burn Greek oil tanker in Red Sea, mock US by posting video of blaze

[b1slickguy]

[Mac4Lyfe]

^ Slick - so how do you feel?

Do you know that we have enough land in the US, that every man, woman and child on the ENTIRE planet could have almost half an acre. Throw in Canada or Mexico and there’s enough room in North America for everyone in the world.

[Optional]

We are the world leader in EVERYTHING because we take in immigrants. Illegal and legal immigrants is why we’re the best. The big secret both parties won’t tell you is that we need illegal immigrants too. Shhh, don’t tell anyone that but without illegals, a loaf of bread would cost $10 bucks. Trump knows that but he won’t say it because he wants votes. O

Although I do think the USA has benefitted from mass immigration in years past. If it can't be managed then either can the inevitable problems from too many heading to the same locations.

Govt needs to know numbers to manage services and infrastructure properly.

A system to both assist the people coming over the Southern border and make sure those people also benefit America would be better than just trying to lock them all out though.

An economic zone where cheap manufacturing to rival China can be legally established might be one way.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Although I do think the USA has benefitted from mass immigration in years past. If it can't be managed then either can the inevitable problems from too many heading to the same locations.

Govt needs to know numbers to manage services and infrastructure properly.

A system to both assist the people coming over the Southern border and make sure those people also benefit America would be better than just trying to lock them all out though.

An economic zone where cheap manufacturing to rival China can be legally established might be one way.

I totally agree…
It’s a difficult, complex problem. Both parties are responsible and neither should weaponize it. They should come up with solutions. Just simply closing our borders totally, is one of the worst ideas. Arresting small children and separating families is another bad idea that costs us much more. This is a humanitarian issue as well. Good people will not stand by and watch young people be neglected, no matter what country they come from. I think we need to invest more in Mexico and South America. Make it so great down there, that more people won’t want to stay here. But maybe it’s all a part of a higher plan. Destroy countries like Haiti, etc., so that we keep getting the cheap labor. We’re not told the real story.

[b1slickguy]

^ Slick - so how do you feel?

Do you know that we have enough land in the US, that every man, woman and child on the ENTIRE planet could have almost half an acre. Throw in Canada or Mexico and there’s enough room in North America for everyone in the world.

I prefer legal, safe and effective immigration. Kind of like how the covid vaccines were supposed to be.

[b1slickguy]

[Mac4Lyfe]

I prefer legal, safe and effective immigration. Kind of like how the covid vaccines were supposed to be.

I’m not sure there’s a way you can have legal, safe and effective immigration. Too many variables.

Someone visits the US on a vacation. He gets deathly ill and in a hospital for 5 months overextending his stay. Now he’s illegal.

You bring in 100,000 immigrants legally, it’s inevitable some of them may break laws, do dumb shit like the rest of us.

What is the most effective immigration? How many people do you bring in each year? What countries? What talent, skills? That’s anyone’s guess.

[hanco21]

I’m not sure there’s a way you can have legal, safe and effective immigration. Too many variables.

Someone visits the US on a vacation. He gets deathly ill and in a hospital for 5 months overextending his stay. Now he’s illegal.

You bring in 100,000 immigrants legally, it’s inevitable some of them may break laws, do dumb shit like the rest of us.

What is the most effective immigration? How many people do you bring in each year? What countries? What talent, skills? That’s anyone’s guess.

kind of like the death tally when it came to Covid. Pump it up baby.

[b1slickguy]

I’m not sure there’s a way you can have legal, safe and effective immigration. Too many variables.

Someone visits the US on a vacation. He gets deathly ill and in a hospital for 5 months overextending his stay. Now he’s illegal.

You bring in 100,000 immigrants legally, it’s inevitable some of them may break laws, do dumb shit like the rest of us.

What is the most effective immigration? How many people do you bring in each year? What countries? What talent, skills? That’s anyone’s guess.

Someone's on vacation and gets ill for 5 months? Let them stay, help them get well and send them home with the invoice for payment. No payment, no return.

Go back to pre-Obama era border policy. Some of the only decent things in the "Patriot" Act were the border and port security measures.

I have no idea how many thousands (not millions) we allow yearly, but no more taxpayer funded anything for all illegal or legal immigrants. They can make a living like the rest of us or start a GoFundMe page.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Someone's on vacation and gets ill for 5 months? Let them stay, help them get well and send them home with the invoice for payment. No payment, no return.

Go back to pre-Obama era border policy. Some of the only decent things in the "Patriot" Act were the border and port security measures.

I have no idea how many thousands (not millions) we allow yearly, but no more taxpayer funded anything for all illegal or legal immigrants. They can make a living like the rest of us or start a GoFundMe page.

But that I’ll person just became illegal and will need to be heard in court, which costs taxpayers thousands of dollars.

Unfortunately, us taxpayers fund everything, including billions in US interest across the globe. It would help to get more people on the tax roles and wealthy people pay their fair share.

[slewfan]

The hollow promises of a corrupt regime should ALWAYS be questioned no matter what party they claim to represent. We will not even begin to list all the RINO/DIDO scum that went right along with them. I am beginning to wonder if the Democrat party are ALL seeing the promises through the hollow end of a cocaine straw as only a truly wasted drug addict would see the promise of four more years of this regime.

[19th Hole]

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[Mac4Lyfe]

^ France just arrested this guy. Patel Durov.

Exiled from Russia in 2014.

Claimed to father over 100 children
Telegram platform used for child sex abuse, pedophilia, terrorist groups, etc.
Now in jail in France.

[jt315]

Bill Maher criticizes VP Kamala Harris and the Democrats for being "scared" to do press interviews and talk to anyone outside their bubble:


"The bigger issue is the left and their ability or their desire to engage with anyone who’s not already in the bubble. And they get a big fat D minus on that. You see Kamala. I’m glad she’s doing well. I’m glad we have a real fight now for president. But she doesn’t talk to the press. She would never go near me. When you won't go near the people who will vote for you. I'm going to vote for you...


I speak to the exact voter she needs—the person in the middle, the person who is not ideologically captured by either side—basically, the audience she needs. The MSNBC crowd is already voting for her. People who watch me will decide this election, which will probably be decided in four states by something like 80,000 votes.

I’m just saying that is the Democrats, and that has been their flaw. They should start doing it more. Talking to people who are not already on their side. They come across as scared."

[slewfan]

Bill Maher criticizes VP Kamala Harris and the Democrats for being "scared" to do press interviews and talk to anyone outside their bubble:


"The bigger issue is the left and their ability or their desire to engage with anyone who’s not already in the bubble. And they get a big fat D minus on that. You see Kamala. I’m glad she’s doing well. I’m glad we have a real fight now for president. But she doesn’t talk to the press. She would never go near me. When you won't go near the people who will vote for you. I'm going to vote for you...


I speak to the exact voter she needs—the person in the middle, the person who is not ideologically captured by either side—basically, the audience she needs. The MSNBC crowd is already voting for her. People who watch me will decide this election, which will probably be decided in four states by something like 80,000 votes.

I’m just saying that is the Democrats, and that has been their flaw. They should start doing it more. Talking to people who are not already on their side. They come across as scared."

Can you imagine people are ignorant or masochistic enough to vote for Harris.?.

[ByeShea]

Bill Maher criticizes VP Kamala Harris and the Democrats for being "scared" to do press interviews and talk to anyone outside their bubble:


"The bigger issue is the left and their ability or their desire to engage with anyone who’s not already in the bubble. And they get a big fat D minus on that. You see Kamala. I’m glad she’s doing well. I’m glad we have a real fight now for president. But she doesn’t talk to the press. She would never go near me. When you won't go near the people who will vote for you. I'm going to vote for you...


I speak to the exact voter she needs—the person in the middle, the person who is not ideologically captured by either side—basically, the audience she needs. The MSNBC crowd is already voting for her. People who watch me will decide this election, which will probably be decided in four states by something like 80,000 votes.

I’m just saying that is the Democrats, and that has been their flaw. They should start doing it more. Talking to people who are not already on their side. They come across as scared."

RFK, Jr.:

My uncle and my father both relished debate. They prided themselves on their capacity to go toe to toe with any opponent in a battle of ideas. They would be astonished to learn of a Democratic Party presidential nominee who, like Vice President Harris, has not appeared in a single interview or an unscripted encounter with voters for 35 days. This is profoundly undemocratic. How are people to judge when they don’t know whom they are choosing? And how can this look to the rest of the world?

[slewfan]

This is the slime Democrats stole the election for...


Zuck admits Biden admin pressured Facebook to censor COVID content, says it was wrong to suppress The Post’s Hunter laptop coverage

[DwightShrute]

This is the slime Democrats stole the election for...


Zuck admits Biden admin pressured Facebook to censor COVID content, says it was wrong to suppress The Post’s Hunter laptop coverage

bbbbbut no election rigging happened. None whatsoever!

[jackpot269]

I concur. What I truly do not understand is how 10’s of millions of supposedly intelligent people fail to acknowledge how fake the media is. How these people turn a blind eye to the facts. Then turn around and twist the truth even further.

Maybe the horrible education system in America has finally come to fruition in producing a whole generation of mindless individuals.?.

Trump, figured out like so many of us already knew, that there was a lot of bad information on the major news channels. Although they were/are right about him more than he is willing to admit.


I truly do not understand how 10’s of millions of supposedly intelligent people fails to acknowledge how untruthful Trump is. How these people turn a blind eye to the facts. Then turn around and twist the truth even further.

Maybe the horrible education system in America has finally come to fruition in producing a whole generation of mindless individuals.?.
I concur. That you are correct about the horrible education system in America, and the producing of a whole generation of mindless individuals has come to fruition.

GOP has a majority in more school districts than the left. They elect the most school boards that set school curriculums. This has not always been the case, only the last 30 or 40 years.

[slewfan]

Trump, figured out like so many of us already knew, that there was a lot of bad information on the major news channels. Although they were/are right about him more than he is willing to admit.


I truly do not understand how 10’s of millions of supposedly intelligent people fails to acknowledge how untruthful Trump is. How these people turn a blind eye to the facts. Then turn around and twist the truth even further.

Maybe the horrible education system in America has finally come to fruition in producing a whole generation of mindless individuals.?.
I concur. That you are correct about the horrible education system in America, and the producing of a whole generation of mindless individuals has come to fruition.

GOP has a majority in more school districts than the left. They elect the most school boards that set school curriculums. This has not always been the case, only the last 30 or 40 years.

So it's the GOP's fault that a whole generation of morons have been harvested in America.?.

[Mac4Lyfe]

So it's the GOP's fault that a whole generation of morons have been harvested in America.?.

Nope but Trump sure did take advantage of so many morons.

[DwightShrute]

Trump, figured out like so many of us already knew, that there was a lot of bad information on the major news channels. Although they were/are right about him more than he is willing to admit.

I truly do not understand how 10’s of millions of supposedly intelligent people fails to acknowledge how untruthful Trump is. How these people turn a blind eye to the facts. Then turn around and twist the truth even further.

Maybe the horrible education system in America has finally come to fruition in producing a whole generation of mindless individuals.?.
I concur. That you are correct about the horrible education system in America, and the producing of a whole generation of mindless individuals has come to fruition.

GOP has a majority in more school districts than the left. They elect the most school boards that set school curriculums. This has not always been the case, only the last 30 or 40 years.

you can say that about most politicians. I mean look at Biden for example. Has anyone lied more than him? I doubt it. The bleach lie, the "very fine people on both sides lie, the "my son never did business with China" lie, the losers and suckers lie, I mean JFC what world are you living in to say something like you just did?

You swallow more shit than Michael Moore's septic tank.

Biden flew his crackhead son an AirForde2 all around the world making secret deal with the CCP, Ukraine and Russia. His former business partner testified he is the BIG GUY and was paid 10% of all these secret deals. Some not so secret. Oh but he never met any of these guys despite photos of Biden with them.

you have the MSM lying for him, deceiving their viewers pretending Biden doesn't have dementia for years while pretending Trump colluded with Russia. I mean WTF?

Is Biden even President anymore? Seriously. He made another embarrassing speech last Monday at the DNC and then went on a vacation at a billionaire's home in CA and now another 7 day vacation. LOL.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^Who here is taking up for Biden? This election has nothing to do with Biden or Harris. I keep telling you this but you keep trying to convince us that Biden is bad. Yawn… It is all about Trump. I believe the majority of American people will not vote for an asshole ever again. We had 4 years too many of his bullshit.

[slewfan]

Nope but Trump sure did take advantage of so many morons.

There are still 81 million morons who voted for Biden.

[Mac4Lyfe]

There are still 81 million morons who voted for Biden.

It will be closer to 85 million in November.

No matter what we call Dems or republicans, Dumb, smart, morons and idiots. THEY ALL KNOW THAT TRUMP IS AN ASSHOLE. You know it too.

[jackpot269]

you can say that about most politicians. I mean look at Biden for example. Has anyone lied more than him? I doubt it. The bleach lie, the "very fine people on both sides lie, the "my son never did business with China" lie, the losers and suckers lie, I mean JFC what world are you living in to say something like you just did?

You swallow more shit than Michael Moore's septic tank.

Biden flew his crackhead son an AirForde2 all around the world making secret deal with the CCP, Ukraine and Russia. His former business partner testified he is the BIG GUY and was paid 10% of all these secret deals. Some not so secret. Oh but he never met any of these guys despite photos of Biden with them.

you have the MSM lying for him, deceiving their viewers pretending Biden doesn't have dementia for years while pretending Trump colluded with Russia. I mean WTF?

Is Biden even President anymore? Seriously. He made another embarrassing speech last Monday at the DNC and then went on a vacation at a billionaire's home in CA and now another 7 day vacation. LOL.

In the history of the world, only Trump has lied more than Biden. What a great time we live in.

[slewfan]

It will be closer to 85 million in November.

No matter what we call Dems or republicans, Dumb, smart, morons and idiots. THEY ALL KNOW THAT TRUMP IS AN ASSHOLE. You know it too.

Problem is, Biden and Harris are even worse than Trump and you know that.

[jackpot269]

So it's the GOP's fault that a whole generation of morons have been harvested in America.?.

No, not completely, but they share as much blame as anyone. They have had the power to change more of the system (in at least the last 30 years) then the other side.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Problem is, Biden and Harris are even worse than Trump and you know that.

Neither are assholes like Trump. I made a lot of money under Biden. He was worse for you? You Trump disciples still need stimulus money. Funny how Trump attracts the dumb and broke.

[Optional]

Unfortunately, us taxpayers fund everything

If I was American the most annoying impost for mine would be how American consumers subsidize medicines for the rest of the world.

It seems crazy to me that a Novolog insulin pen costs $140 there were it is made/owned whilst Australians pay US$20 for it.

That would be the #1 reason I would want "socialized" medicines there. Other countries would have to pay more and Americans could get a fair deal.

[slewfan]

Neither are assholes like Trump. I made a lot of money under Biden. He was worse for you? You Trump disciples still need stimulus money. Funny how Trump attracts the dumb and broke.

The Stock Market was good under Biden. But Trumps was actually better... In essence, life was so much cheaper under Trump. Under Biden you paid out more of your dividends and winners for the basics like gasoline, food, and all other necessities. You spent thousands more a year with Bidens policies. He has his followers fooled into thinking he was good for one reason, the stock market. Everything else from energy to food was a bust. Not one of his policies is working to MAGA.

What is funny, how the ill-informed blindly support an administration who constantly lies to your face and then expects you to defend their poor leadership..

Who really got rich with the Stock Market under Biden.?. The Corporations. Hmm... We had much more money in our pockets with Trump. Even a Bidenite like you can't deny the facts.

By the way. Where's the President of the U.S. been.?. According to you, he's done so great. Shouldn't he be out there campaigning. haha

[b1slickguy]

[DwightShrute]

not rigged at all lol

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