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  • Jordano5354
    SBR Rookie
    • 09-11-19
    • 45

    #1
    What would you do if your local that's a mob boss stiffed you?
    I always used offshore as I don't want to deal with gangsters that are local. But what will you do if your local that's a mob boss stiffed you? Betting with a local is a lose lose situation. You lose, you better pay up. You win, then can choose to pay you or not pay you and if you want to do something about it, they'll just send people to your house or work place. So what would you do? If you snitch to the cops, it'll make things worst.
  • PD77
    SBR MVP
    • 12-11-09
    • 2380

    #2
    What is your agenda with these posts?

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    • blackbox
      SBR MVP
      • 02-28-08
      • 1415

      #3
      You destroy his car dealership-- Turn his welching ass in. In Calif it is not illegal to make a bet--- it is illegal to take a bet. Look up Calif penal codes. Mostly misdemeanors except wire fraud--and of course dealing with IRS issues .
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      • blackbox
        SBR MVP
        • 02-28-08
        • 1415

        #4
        Iknow exactly where this guy is headed --dealing with a welch now--- do not get in a stink war with a skunk -F U ALABAMA
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        • HedgeHog
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-11-07
          • 10128

          #5
          A mob boss stiffing a small time player--LOL! Fight fire with fire. Tell him to pay you the $20 you're owed or he'll sleep with the fishes.
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          • blackbox
            SBR MVP
            • 02-28-08
            • 1415

            #6
            Originally posted by HedgeHog
            A mob boss stiffing a small time player--LOL! Fight fire with fire. Tell him to pay you the $20 you're owed or he'll sleep with the fishes.
            Agent stupid fool - stick with what you know
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            • HedgeHog
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-11-07
              • 10128

              #7
              Originally posted by blackbox
              Agent stupid fool - stick with what you know
              I know he's not dealing with a "Mob Boss".
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              • BrickJames
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 05-05-11
                • 9749

                #8
                I would put a contract out on him.
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                • VeggieDog
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-21-09
                  • 7214

                  #9
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                  • blackbox
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-28-08
                    • 1415

                    #10
                    Originally posted by blackbox
                    Agent stupid fool - stick with what you know
                    not what your comment said-- I knew it too but you need to clarify your statements-- PPH go from local agents-super agents -and up. But when the websites that agents use misgrade--or make wagers disappear - that is when it gets sticky. The problem stays local and bbcpph and or whatever pph you use are not involved what-so ever. Sorry about the misunderstanding. PPH agents are want a be
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                    • mrpapageorgio
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-07-17
                      • 2974

                      #11
                      You return the favor in kind.

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                      • HedgeHog
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-11-07
                        • 10128

                        #12
                        Originally posted by blackbox
                        not what your comment said-- I knew it too but you need to clarify your statements-- PPH go from local agents-super agents -and up. But when the websites that agents use misgrade--or make wagers disappear - that is when it gets sticky. The problem stays local and bbcpph and or whatever pph you use are not involved what-so ever. Sorry about the misunderstanding. PPH agents are want a be
                        Thanks for the explanation.
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                        • Eddy Munny
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-13-13
                          • 15768

                          #13
                          You get yourself a nice pair of steel-toe boots and kick that son of a bitch right in the shin!
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                          • sourtwist
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-10-12
                            • 9364

                            #14
                            when you deal with people like them, stand your ground, especially when you're right

                            if you show any fear they will dismiss you as a puzzy

                            if you stand up for yourself like a man, they should appreciate that and respect you

                            nothing worse than a book stiffing a player, players get in over their heads every day...different situation

                            i know from experience
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                            • thechaoz
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-23-09
                              • 12154

                              #15
                              I wouldn't, I'd bet offshore.

                              If you need a beard in PA or NJ pm me.

                              We can make an arrangement.
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                              • thechaoz
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-23-09
                                • 12154

                                #16
                                Originally posted by sourtwist
                                when you deal with people like them, stand your ground, especially when you're right

                                if you show any fear they will dismiss you as a puzzy

                                if you stand up for yourself like a man, they should appreciate that and respect you

                                nothing worse than a book stiffing a player, players get in over their heads every day...different situation

                                i know from experience
                                Come on twist Go Pro, you're better than this.
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                                • Jordano5354
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 09-11-19
                                  • 45

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by blackbox
                                  You destroy his car dealership-- Turn his welching ass in. In Calif it is not illegal to make a bet--- it is illegal to take a bet. Look up Calif penal codes. Mostly misdemeanors except wire fraud--and of course dealing with IRS issues .
                                  Snitches get stitches. Good luck not getting shot if you ever snitch. smh.
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                                  • sourtwist
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-10-12
                                    • 9364

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by thechaoz
                                    Come on twist Go Pro, you're better than this.
                                    Lol

                                    I really don't give a fukk...not sure why you do
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                                    • PittsburghPlayer
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-11-10
                                      • 6760

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by sourtwist
                                      Lol
                                      I really don't give a fukk...not sure why you do
                                      best response I have ever seen to the peer pressure to be pro

                                      some, not all pros are suckers who did it more to be "one of the boys" than for charity and it shows when a pro has to try to persuade a non pro that if he donates, he is a better human being

                                      to not recognize how pathetic they look when they write that shit makes me smile for not being, one of them
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                                      • blackbox
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-28-08
                                        • 1415

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Jordano5354
                                        Snitches get stitches. Good luck not getting shot if you ever snitch. smh.
                                        Well Dude the welch got his stiches and more---- Do not play bookie if you cannot pay up-- probably will do it again--already cost him his marriage - and all his longtime friends. I play for keeps not marbles-- ever hear of ethics or paying your debts. Lucky he did not have his automatic weapons taken away. Small town justices. Welches get their ass kicked into next week. gl all snitching is one thing --collecting a debt is another. I have seen first hand what he has done to collect debts, It is not like half the board did not want a piece of Bet Islands after getting screwed --or do you condone that too
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                                        • thechaoz
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-23-09
                                          • 12154

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sourtwist
                                          Lol

                                          I really don't give a fukk...not sure why you do
                                          Just bustin your balls. May your lines cover!
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                                          • thechaoz
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-23-09
                                            • 12154

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by PittsburghPlayer
                                            best response I have ever seen to the peer pressure to be pro

                                            some, not all pros are suckers who did it more to be "one of the boys" than for charity and it shows when a pro has to try to persuade a non pro that if he donates, he is a better human being

                                            to not recognize how pathetic they look when they write that shit makes me smile for not being, one of them
                                            I know some bust balls and really beat that drum, I was just bustin his balls.

                                            Sarcasm does not work with text.

                                            BOL with your Wagers PP
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                                            • Auto Donk
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-03-13
                                              • 43558

                                              #23
                                              there are no mob bosses stiffin' anyone on a bullshit sports bet.... try low level mafia wannabe.....

                                              on a side note, i beat the shit out of a local bookie who was part of H-town's russian mob, drank vodka with the actual boss of that family that night..... fukked two russian "models" (ie, model wannabe's but more likely valley porn hos later in life) at the after party.....

                                              russian way of settling debt.... never did get the $500 the lowlife rusky soldier owed me.... but figured the pussy and two bottles of primo vodka I left the after party with were a fair trade....
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                                              • PittsburghPlayer
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-11-10
                                                • 6760

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by thechaoz
                                                I know some bust balls and really beat that drum, I was just bustin his balls.

                                                Sarcasm does not work with text.

                                                BOL with your Wagers PP
                                                Cool Chaoz, I see good in and therefore choose to think the best of you
                                                and Twister too.

                                                and yes you are correct, sarcasm by text takes skill
                                                the effort is what matters

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                                                • sourtwist
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-10-12
                                                  • 9364

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by PittsburghPlayer
                                                  Cool Chaoz, I see good in and therefore choose to think the best of you
                                                  and Twister too.

                                                  and yes you are correct, sarcasm by text takes skill
                                                  the effort is what matters

                                                  Chaos is one of the few I think I could actually get along with even though our views might be on opposite sides of the spectrum

                                                  I have a few friends like that IRL but not many anymore...things have changed for the worse thanks to the media, social media, and that Google shithole that has taken control of available information...and selectively pushes a certain agenda

                                                  I have respect for anyone with passion, just not excessive stupidity
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                                                  • Jordano5354
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 09-11-19
                                                    • 45

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                    there are no mob bosses stiffin' anyone on a bullshit sports bet.... try low level mafia wannabe.....

                                                    on a side note, i beat the shit out of a local bookie who was part of H-town's russian mob, drank vodka with the actual boss of that family that night..... fukked two russian "models" (ie, model wannabe's but more likely valley porn hos later in life) at the after party.....

                                                    russian way of settling debt.... never did get the $500 the lowlife rusky soldier owed me.... but figured the pussy and two bottles of primo vodka I left the after party with were a fair trade....
                                                    Puhleeeeze, hahahaha. you didn't beat up nobody when they have a .45 semi-auto pointing at your face with your mouth wide open. You know you would be shitting in your pants begging that guy not to pull the trigger. Trust me, ANYONE would cry like a little bitch begging that guy not to pull the trigger when that guy is pointing a gun in their face and is about to pull the trigger.
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                                                    • Auto Donk
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-03-13
                                                      • 43558

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Jordano5354
                                                      Puhleeeeze, hahahaha. you didn't beat up nobody when they have a .45 semi-auto pointing at your face with your mouth wide open. You know you would be shitting in your pants begging that guy not to pull the trigger. Trust me, ANYONE would cry like a little bitch begging that guy not to pull the trigger when that guy is pointing a gun in their face and is about to pull the trigger.
                                                      speak for yourself pussy.....

                                                      not only did i beat his ass, another punk pulled a 9 mm on me in my parking garage, missed me at damn near point blank range, and then ran from my unarmed ass after I got a tire iron out of the back of my suv and chased after him.... after he blew a hole through my jeans that grazed me, he started shaking uncontrollably as I told him to put the fukkin' gun down so we could settle it mano-to-mano, and began to run away..... he ran smack dab into the cops exiting the back of my building, who, upon seeing he was being chased, took him down and prepared to encounter whoever was chasing the prick, figuring he must be armed to be running after an armed man..... I had five-six cop lazer sights trained on me as I approached and they told me to both freeze and hit the ground..... knew I was about to be shot, but fortunately the jittery lazer sights weren't followed by gunfire.....
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                                                      • Jordano5354
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 09-11-19
                                                        • 45

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                        speak for yourself pussy.....

                                                        not only did i beat his ass, another punk pulled a 9 mm on me in my parking garage, missed me at damn near point blank range, and then ran from my unarmed ass after I got a tire iron out of the back of my suv and chased after him.... after he blew a hole through my jeans that grazed me, he started shaking uncontrollably as I told him to put the fukkin' gun down so we could settle it mano-to-mano, and began to run away..... he ran smack dab into the cops exiting the back of my building, who, upon seeing he was being chased, took him down and prepared to encounter whoever was chasing the prick, figuring he must be armed to be running after an armed man..... I had five-six cop lazer sights trained on me as I approached and they told me to both freeze and hit the ground..... knew I was about to be shot, but fortunately the jittery lazer sights weren't followed by gunfire.....
                                                        cool story, pussy boy. LOL! hahaahahahahahaha!!!! Anyone shot at you, you would've died and won't be writing this make-believe story. Hahahaaha!!!!
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                                                        • thechaoz
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-23-09
                                                          • 12154

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by sourtwist
                                                          Chaos is one of the few I think I could actually get along with even though our views might be on opposite sides of the spectrum

                                                          I have a few friends like that IRL but not many anymore...things have changed for the worse thanks to the media, social media, and that Google shithole that has taken control of available information...and selectively pushes a certain agenda

                                                          I have respect for anyone with passion, just not excessive stupidity
                                                          I agree. I have friends from super poor, to wealthy. I'm that guy that was friends with Jocks, nerds and Stoners in JR/HS/College.

                                                          I'm just social and fascinated by people. We all come from somewhere. I'm always down for a good time whether it's Scotch on the rocks in fancy club in Manhattan or Cornhole in Atlanta with the cousins fam drinking shit beers.

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                                                          • mrpapageorgio
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-07-17
                                                            • 2974

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Jordano5354
                                                            Snitches get stitches. Good luck not getting shot if you ever snitch. smh.
                                                            Dude wtf is your agenda on here? Your 2 threads have basically been asking people how they would collect against a bookie that stiffs them if they're mob connected and proceed to bash people who give an answer other than run away. You sound like either a 16 year old that either watched Goodfellas and Casino for the first time and now have a sudden infatuation for the mob/betting or a bitcoin nerd that discovered offshore betting for the first time and now excited to have a way to bet on sports because you're too scared to use a local or have no idea how to get connected to one.

                                                            I don't use a local or bet on credit, but the people I know that do use a local have not had a problem with their bookie that was "connected." The ones I have heard have issues were ones that used a small fish and disappeared after having a bad week because they didn't have the bankroll to cover a bad week or took on too much risk.

                                                            The "connected" locals are not going to stiff you because it's bad for business. Their business depends on their reputation as an outfit that pays, so if rumblings get around that they stiff people, people are going to stop betting with them and take their business elsewhere. That $3k win you're worried they may stiff you is peanuts to the 6-7 figures they take in a year and are not going to risk it by stiffing one guy who may be more connected than they realize. I know a ton of cops and even a fed who like to gamble (not all are sports bettors). Stiff one of those guys and you can bet your ass your operation will face hellfire. Sure, go ahead and stiff that college student. What's he going to do? They could be laughing their ass off think what's this college student going to do until it turns out his dad is an attorney who is juiced with the local politicians and next thing you know, your social club is being raided and you have no idea why. All you know is your operation is now suddenly getting harassed non-stop.
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                                                            • Highlight0028
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 09-14-19
                                                              • 3

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by mrpapageorgio
                                                              Dude wtf is your agenda on here? Your 2 threads have basically been asking people how they would collect against a bookie that stiffs them if they're mob connected and proceed to bash people who give an answer other than run away. You sound like either a 16 year old that either watched Goodfellas and Casino for the first time and now have a sudden infatuation for the mob/betting or a bitcoin nerd that discovered offshore betting for the first time and now excited to have a way to bet on sports because you're too scared to use a local or have no idea how to get connected to one.

                                                              I don't use a local or bet on credit, but the people I know that do use a local have not had a problem with their bookie that was "connected." The ones I have heard have issues were ones that used a small fish and disappeared after having a bad week because they didn't have the bankroll to cover a bad week or took on too much risk.

                                                              The "connected" locals are not going to stiff you because it's bad for business. Their business depends on their reputation as an outfit that pays, so if rumblings get around that they stiff people, people are going to stop betting with them and take their business elsewhere. That $3k win you're worried they may stiff you is peanuts to the 6-7 figures they take in a year and are not going to risk it by stiffing one guy who may be more connected than they realize. I know a ton of cops and even a fed who like to gamble (not all are sports bettors). Stiff one of those guys and you can bet your ass your operation will face hellfire. Sure, go ahead and stiff that college student. What's he going to do? They could be laughing their ass off think what's this college student going to do until it turns out his dad is an attorney who is juiced with the local politicians and next thing you know, your social club is being raided and you have no idea why. All you know is your operation is now suddenly getting harassed non-stop.
                                                              100% of the time when little boys like you bragging their ass off online about who they know, they don't know anyone and are usually losers either unemployed or working a dead end job. LoL. Sure little boy, you really don't know shit.
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                                                              • PD77
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-11-09
                                                                • 2380

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Highlight0028
                                                                100% of the time when little boys like you bragging their ass off online about who they know, they don't know anyone and are usually losers either unemployed or working a dead end job. LoL. Sure little boy, you really don't know shit.
                                                                Nice second post, welcome to the forum.
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                                                                • BigdaddyQH
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 07-13-09
                                                                  • 19530

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Jordano, you are full of crap. You, and everyone else posting in here, know LITTLE or NOTHING about the Mob. Locals do NOT belong to the Mob, much less become Mob bosses. Only a dumb stupid, ignorant lying arsehole would say that. Locals may, or may not receive backing from Mob sources, but all they are is a bunch of "Rocky Balboa's" who accept wagers and rough up people who do not pay. With all of the sportsbooks available to the public now, the Mob really is not that interested in gaming. They have much bigger fish to fry, like many legitimate businesses, especially ones in construction, longshoremen, and other legitimate interests.

                                                                  It also helps to know the name of your local and something about him. I case you fools were not aware of this, you have to be FULL BLOODED Italian to become "made". Even powerful men like Meyer Lansky, Dutch Schultz, and "Bugsy" Siegal were NOT made members of the Mob. You guys really should stop talking about things you know little or nothing about.
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                                                                  • TheGoldenGoose
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-27-12
                                                                    • 3745

                                                                    #34
                                                                    BigDaddy:

                                                                    "That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought out objection"
                                                                    ~~~~~My Cousin Vinny

                                                                    Something we don't usually see from you lately.
                                                                    There may yet be hope for you bonehead.
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65684

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Jordano5354
                                                                      I always used offshore as I don't want to deal with gangsters that are local. But what will you do if your local that's a mob boss stiffed you? Betting with a local is a lose lose situation. You lose, you better pay up. You win, then can choose to pay you or not pay you and if you want to do something about it, they'll just send people to your house or work place. So what would you do? If you snitch to the cops, it'll make things worst.
                                                                      First off the only local near me that I’ve known has been settling up every week with his clients at the same sports bar for the last 20 years. So I’ve never thought about being stiffed when I do use him and I’ve been using him on and off for the past 12 years. This is the same sports bar that runs a 50 dollar buy in hold ‘em
                                                                      poker tournament weekly.
                                                                      The authorities obviously know and just don’t care.

                                                                      I suggest if you deal with a local know who you’re dealing with first.
                                                                      Before making your first bet establish the terms, you know, what day of the week do we settle?
                                                                      Where is the meet spot? How much is my credit line? You know, how much can I be down before I have to settle up? Stuff like that.

                                                                      A good reliable local that gives you good lines is just as good as a good offshore book.
                                                                      And don’t be afraid to ask for nickel or dime lines either, he may offer it to you if you ask, but he isn’t going to
                                                                      volunteer you reduced juices if you don’t at least speak up.
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