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  • mpaschal34
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-04-13
    • 12087

    #36
    Not sure how he got so many points...but it's a damn shame he lost all of them. Always felt a little bit sorry for him, but I finally agree, it's time to ban the stiff.
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    • downsouth
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-13-11
      • 11580

      #37
      How you guys continue to fall into it and respond is also a head scratcher. Just let the guy fade into irrelevancy. The "advice" only feeds into a need for attention. Like most trolls if you simply ignore them they generally go away.
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      • mpaschal34
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-04-13
        • 12087

        #38
        DS - you make a good point. From this point forward I will waste no time addressing/acknowledging CS4.

        As Tony Soprano once said, he is dead to me.
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        • playersonly69
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-04-08
          • 12827

          #39
          One of the worst things about carseller is that he actually rolled over 226 points last night from his first poker cash in 3 months and he then lost ALL OF it within a few minutes.


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          • Itsamazing777
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-14-12
            • 12602

            #40
            I can't speaks for triple, carseller. But I'm pretty sure that if you sent the 1000 triple would let it go.

            Take the leap of faith, and gamble. That's why we all are here, anyways right?
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            • Carseller4
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-22-09
              • 19627

              #41
              sent 100

              250/1000
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              • bobbywaves
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-06-08
                • 13280

                #42
                It's my understanding CS paid back Yisman the 10k owed, so why does he still have a stiff badge saying 10k?
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                • playersonly69
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-04-08
                  • 12827

                  #43
                  Well he did owe it over a few years! And he would NEVER have paid that debt had you not gotten real lucky in the casino.
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                  • BeerDog99
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-22-10
                    • 4894

                    #44
                    Originally posted by bobbywaves
                    It's my understanding CS paid back Yisman the 10k owed, so why does he still have a stiff badge saying 10k?
                    The 10k (at an absolute minimum) is what is owed to Triple_D and that is what the stiff badge is referring to. until he just recently stated his intent to "make things right", he was a total stiff. In my opinion, once he pays off what Triple_D agrees to, then he can discuss with SBR if the badge ever gets removed.
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                    • Carseller4
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-22-09
                      • 19627

                      #45
                      Originally posted by BeerDog99
                      The 10k (at an absolute minimum) is what is owed to Triple_D and that is what the stiff badge is referring to. until he just recently stated his intent to "make things right", he was a total stiff. In my opinion, once he pays off what Triple_D agrees to, then he can discuss with SBR if the badge ever gets removed.
                      I only borrowed 1000 points from tdb.
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                      • JAKEPEAVY21
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 03-11-11
                        • 29321

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Carseller4
                        I only borrowed 1000 points from tdb.
                        How long ago was the loan? what were the terms on interest? quit playing dumb, man up and pay your debts quietly without all the BS. If anyone gives you an inch, you take a mile. How do you look yourself in the mirror each morning? Penetrating shameful and embarrassing.
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                        • Carseller4
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-22-09
                          • 19627

                          #47
                          My point is 1000 borrowed does not equal 10,000 owed unless the lender is unethical.
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                          • JAKEPEAVY21
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 03-11-11
                            • 29321

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Carseller4
                            My point is 1000 borrowed does not equal 10,000 owed unless the lender is unethical.
                            don't agree to the terms of the loan you begged for then...easy enough..you make an agreement and you stick to it, it's your own fault that you accepted the terms if you didn't like them. Stop going in the damn casino every night and blowing your points and try saving them so you don't have to take loans all the time.
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                            • Carseller4
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-22-09
                              • 19627

                              #49
                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                              don't agree to the terms of the loan you begged for then...easy enough..you make an agreement and you stick to it, it's your own fault that you accepted the terms if you didn't like them. Stop going in the damn casino every night and blowing your points and try saving them so you don't have to take loans all the time.
                              Pretty much done with the loan thing.
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                              • playersonly69
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-04-08
                                • 12827

                                #50
                                Well as an unbiased source, I would say that you owe tripled about 3000 points and the loan would be considered done. Well that is assuming that you pay off that 3000 points within the next 365 days.


                                That is fair to both parties
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                                • bobbywaves
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 05-06-08
                                  • 13280

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by playersonly69
                                  And he would NEVER have paid that debt had you not gotten real lucky in the casino.
                                  What does me getting lucky in the casino have to do with CS?
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                                  • bobbywaves
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-06-08
                                    • 13280

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by playersonly69
                                    Well as an unbiased source, I would say that you owe tripled about 3000 points and the loan would be considered done. Well that is assuming that you pay off that 3000 points within the next 365 days.


                                    That is fair to both parties
                                    Sounds fair to me as well.
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                                    • Carseller4
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-22-09
                                      • 19627

                                      #53
                                      3000 sounds very fair to me also.

                                      If I had a reasonable payoff I would accelerate my payments.

                                      Just knowing makes a difference.

                                      tdb???
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                                      • Triple_D_Bet
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-12-11
                                        • 7626

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                        It's my understanding CS paid back Yisman the 10k owed, so why does he still have a stiff badge saying 10k?
                                        Because SBR doesn't have room on the badge for all the extra zeros it should be, over 100 more zeros at this point.

                                        Originally posted by Carseller4
                                        3000 sounds very fair to me also.

                                        If I had a reasonable payoff I would accelerate my payments.

                                        Just knowing makes a difference.

                                        tdb???
                                        Can you give me any reason to believe you mean what you say here? I can think of a couple hundred proven reasons not to believe you'll follow through.

                                        Stated goal of this loan was to either remove you from site or let you prove you'd changed into a responsible borrower. As I've said before, prove the latter and I have infinite room for leniency...which is fortunate, as your debt is well in excess of any comprehensible number at this point.

                                        Proving you were responsible (or at least capable of pretending to be responsible) would have taken some time if you'd never messed up, and now that you have so badly I can't say how long it will take...but I can promise you it will take more than a couple of payments (while continuing to violate terms). Either start complying and paying or gtfo
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                                        • Carseller4
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-22-09
                                          • 19627

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                          Because SBR doesn't have room on the badge for all the extra zeros it should be, over 100 more zeros at this point.



                                          Can you give me any reason to believe you mean what you say here? I can think of a couple hundred proven reasons not to believe you'll follow through.

                                          Stated goal of this loan was to either remove you from site or let you prove you'd changed into a responsible borrower. As I've said before, prove the latter and I have infinite room for leniency...which is fortunate, as your debt is well in excess of any comprehensible number at this point.

                                          Proving you were responsible (or at least capable of pretending to be responsible) would have taken some time if you'd never messed up, and now that you have so badly I can't say how long it will take...but I can promise you it will take more than a couple of payments (while continuing to violate terms). Either start complying and paying or gtfo
                                          I will continue to knock out the principal.

                                          Once I reach that goal, we can talk about appropriate, ethical interest payments.

                                          My current count right now is...

                                          250/1000
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                                          • Triple_D_Bet
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-12-11
                                            • 7626

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Carseller4
                                            I will continue to knock out the principal.

                                            Once I reach that goal, we can talk about appropriate, ethical interest payments.

                                            My current count right now is...

                                            250/1000

                                            Interest was well within ethical limits, until you decided to penalize yourself by unethically breaking your word hundreds of times. I agreed to lend under specific conditions, you agreed to those terms and now you want to just ignore them. Not a surprise considering your history of doing that exact same thing...but unlike the numerous free passes you've been given in the past, you're not getting away with it so you can find someone else to scam.

                                            Even if you had never broken any terms, you'd be at 760 points of interest tomorrow...of which you've paid back less than a third, with help from gifts no less

                                            Prove you're a responsible adult who can follow through on his promises, or you'll continued to be treated like a child
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                                            • brainfreeze
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 05-13-14
                                              • 5689

                                              #57
                                              Ten points towards his debt trip
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                                              • Carseller4
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-22-09
                                                • 19627

                                                #58
                                                260/1000

                                                Thanks brainfreeze!
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                                                • leetreaper
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 10-23-10
                                                  • 34841

                                                  #59
                                                  This clown is still alive???
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                                                  • Carseller4
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-22-09
                                                    • 19627

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by leetreaper
                                                    This clown is still alive???
                                                    I'm determined to get tdb paid off.

                                                    It's the only right thing to do.
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                                                    • bobbywaves
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-06-08
                                                      • 13280

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                                      Interest was well within ethical limits, until you decided to penalize yourself by unethically breaking your word hundreds of times. I agreed to lend under specific conditions, you agreed to those terms and now you want to just ignore them. Not a surprise considering your history of doing that exact same thing...but unlike the numerous free passes you've been given in the past, you're not getting away with it so you can find someone else to scam.

                                                      Even if you had never broken any terms, you'd be at 760 points of interest tomorrow...of which you've paid back less than a third, with help from gifts no less

                                                      Prove you're a responsible adult who can follow through on his promises, or you'll continued to be treated like a child
                                                      Let me get this straight. You accept a 10 pt CS gift from Mr.Brainfreeze, yet returned my generous 1,214 pt CS gift?

                                                      http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...-loan-p11.html (page 11, post #368)

                                                      Mr.Brainfreeze & myself are both men of God, so why the discrepancy Tripe?
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                                                      • brainfreeze
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 05-13-14
                                                        • 5689

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                        Let me get this straight. You accept a 10 pt CS gift from Mr.Brainfreeze, yet returned my generous 1,214 pt CS gift?

                                                        http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...-loan-p11.html (page 11, post #368)

                                                        Mr.Brainfreeze & myself are both men of God, so why the discrepancy Tripe?
                                                        I forgot about the no gift clause, but I really want to help seller out here.. He takes a lot from everyone and it must really suck seeing that badge every time he logs on... He wants to do the right thing and he has sat quietly for some time now. I don't think he deserves anything from anyone but I think 3 or 4k should be acceptable and that's something he can accomplish. 1 for 4 over like what a 6 month period ? Hook him up tripper, and no one should do loans with him unless it's someone who understands he has a bit of a problem. Do a 1 time fixed rate loan at a short limit, " I'd say under five hundred " until he shows himself over a nice period of time.
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                                                        • brainfreeze
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-13-14
                                                          • 5689

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Carseller4
                                                          I'm determined to get tdb paid off.

                                                          It's the only right thing to do.
                                                          Correct, I understand you don't mind being a villain seller, but your ticking people off... Just do the right thing, and make it a complete priority to pay him off.
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                                                          • Triple_D_Bet
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-12-11
                                                            • 7626

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                            Let me get this straight. You accept a 10 pt CS gift from Mr.Brainfreeze, yet returned my generous 1,214 pt CS gift?

                                                            http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...-loan-p11.html (page 11, post #368)

                                                            Mr.Brainfreeze & myself are both men of God, so why the discrepancy Tripe?
                                                            In your haste to demonstrate your ignorance, you seem to have assumed that somehow, me not returning his gift less than an hour after it was given, and before I saw it, constitutes some sort of inconsistency on my part. We know you're no stranger to putting your foot in your mouth, but twice on the same page is impressive even for you. I can only assume the anguish of not seeing yourself on the leaderboard you care so much about has finally drawn you out of the corner to interact with us


                                                            Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                                            I forgot about the no gift clause, but I really want to help seller out here.. He takes a lot from everyone and it must really suck seeing that badge every time he logs on... He wants to do the right thing and he has sat quietly for some time now. I don't think he deserves anything from anyone but I think 3 or 4k should be acceptable and that's something he can accomplish. 1 for 4 over like what a 6 month period ? Hook him up tripper, and no one should do loans with him unless it's someone who understands he has a bit of a problem. Do a 1 time fixed rate loan at a short limit, " I'd say under five hundred " until he shows himself over a nice period of time.
                                                            The help CS4 needs is seemingly beyond anyone to provide through the forum, and certainly not by giving him 10 points. He doesn't want to do the right thing, because if he did, it would be even easier now than before to comply with the conditions, with poker being free for pros. Instead, he does the same thing he's done for years and years now: claims he wants to do the right thing while his actions prove the opposite.

                                                            This isn't about what's a fair interest rate; a fair interest rate was given to him under terms he agreed to. However, under those same terms, he chose to not only raise his interest, but he declined to pay off the loan when he could have, and promptly proceeded to ignore his agreement for months. Now for whatever reason he feels the need to field some more abuse, and he decides to make yet another "I'm gonna do the right thing" thread, hoping someone will buy it. There's a problem inherent to "Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you.": it enables poor behavior and harms them by preventing them from learning via consequences what the rest of us probably learned as young children.

                                                            Loan and amount owed stand until CS4 proves he deserves to be treated like an adult...not holding my breath though.

                                                            250/>10^100
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                                                            • bobbywaves
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-06-08
                                                              • 13280

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                                              you seem to have assumed that somehow, me not returning his gift constitutes some sort of inconsistency on my part.
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                                                              • Russian Rocket
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 09-02-12
                                                                • 43910

                                                                #66
                                                                Carseller what a mess you've created
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                                                                • BeerDog99
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-22-10
                                                                  • 4894

                                                                  #67
                                                                  I find it supremely amusing seeing people comment on what is an apparently fair for Carseller but no regards to TDB.

                                                                  Carseller, an apparent adult with at least a middle school level of reading comprehension and maturity, agreed to a loan where TDB was absolutely clear on the stipulations and the intent of the loan.

                                                                  He absolutely and flagrantly ignored the stipulations and has clearly tried to just act as if the loan did not exist for many months. He also had enough points to fully pay it off at one point and decided not to.

                                                                  Exactly what out of his actions and his history deserves any leniency at all??? Also, all along TDB has made it clear, if Carseller acted like an adult and showed he was done with his shenanigans, he would discuss a reasonable total owed. Carseller has never acted like an adult on this and has only acted like a stiff, therefore he has been treated as such. The words Carseller uses is nothing more than BS until his actions back them up. A few payments does not constitute backing up his words.

                                                                  On a side note, I find it soooooo ironic that stated conservative/religious folks hand out crumbs to support a person that will not stand up on their own two feet. So self-serving and holier than thou. Such a stark example of real life hypocrisy in this forum.....
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                                                                  • bobbywaves
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 05-06-08
                                                                    • 13280

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by BeerDog99
                                                                    I find it supremely amusing seeing people comment on what is an apparently fair for Carseller but no regards to TDB.
                                                                    You conveniently leave out the unfair interest & penalties Tripe assessed, making a complete mockery of the loan.

                                                                    On a side note, I find it soooooo ironic that stated conservative/religious folks hand out crumbs to support a person that will not stand up on their own two feet. So self-serving and holier than thou. Such a stark example of real life hypocrisy in this forum.....[/QUOTE]

                                                                    Apparently you never experienced the satisfaction one receives by helping feed the poor, like myself & Brainfreeze have experienced many times over. Truly sad BD, but we'll keep you in our prayers.
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                                                                    • Straight Cash
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-20-09
                                                                      • 2202

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                                      You conveniently leave out the unfair interest & penalties Tripe assessed, making a complete mockery of the loan.

                                                                      On a side note, I find it soooooo ironic that stated conservative/religious folks hand out crumbs to support a person that will not stand up on their own two feet. So self-serving and holier than thou. Such a stark example of real life hypocrisy in this forum.....

                                                                      Apparently you never experienced the satisfaction one receives by helping feed the poor, like myself & Brainfreeze have experienced many times over. Truly sad BD, but we'll keep you in our prayers.
                                                                      If he felt like it was unfair he should have just turned it down instead of accepting. The terms were spelled out when he accepted.
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                                                                      • bobbywaves
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 05-06-08
                                                                        • 13280

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Straight Cash
                                                                        If he felt like it was unfair he should have just turned it down instead of accepting. The terms were spelled out when he accepted.
                                                                        CS has an obvious problem....He's incapable of turning down any loan, no matter how unfair the terms. Tripe knows this & simply exploited CS.
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