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  • PAULYPOKER
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    • 12-06-08
    • 36581

    #1786
    Originally posted by Bostongambler
    GOD

    How do you know there is one? Should one really feel him in ones heart?
    Does it really matter?

    Earth and every living thing in/on it is made up of cells..

    The people who believe in God are unable to critically think for themselves
    Therefore they might as well be the same group of cells that makes up a rock..

    Humans are the most intellectually "capable" group of cells on this Earth..

    However the humans who use/used critical thinking to their advantage somehow convince/convinced 99%
    of the rest of the human race that they are not able to critically think for themselves so they must
    depend on an imaginary force to guide,protect and provide for them..
    Talk about a cruel joke..Lol.......
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    • sourtwist
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      • 11-10-12
      • 9364

      #1787
      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
      Does it really matter?

      Earth and every living thing in/on it is made up of cells..

      The people who believe in God are unable to critically think for themselves
      Therefore they might as well be the same group of cells that makes up a rock..

      Humans are the most intellectually "capable" group of cells on this Earth..

      However the humans who use/used critical thinking to their advantage somehow convince/convinced 99%
      of the rest of the human race that they are not able to critically think for themselves so they must
      depend on an imaginary force to guide,protect and provide for them..
      Talk about a cruel joke..Lol.......
      Pauly who hacked your sbr account? Raydog? This is by far your worst post ever.
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      • jtoler
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-17-13
        • 30967

        #1788
        Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
        Does it really matter?

        Earth and every living thing in/on it is made up of cells..

        The people who believe in God are unable to critically think for themselves
        Therefore they might as well be the same group of cells that makes up a rock..

        Humans are the most intellectually "capable" group of cells on this Earth..

        However the humans who use/used critical thinking to their advantage somehow convince/convinced 99%
        of the rest of the human race that they are not able to critically think for themselves so they must
        depend on an imaginary force to guide,protect and provide for them..
        Talk about a cruel joke..Lol.......
        I find it funny that humans get old enough and think they get smart enough to say there is no God, its hilarious. At one point you were in your crib couldn't wipe your butt, had to have someone take care of you, had to be told what to do and how to think, but a little time passes and somehow knowledge that's beyond comprehension is gained to the point where it can denounce a creator, that's unreal to me, I feel this way about everyone who says there is no God.
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        • raydog
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          • 11-07-07
          • 6984

          #1789
          Originally posted by sourtwist
          Pauly who hacked your sbr account? Raydog? This is by far your worst post ever.
          i think thats a compliment ... but as long as this thread lives, i know i will never possess the worst post ever...

          sourtwist, i hope that for all you preach , you act in a christian manner off the forums...unfortunately, from what ive seen ON the forum, you are ignorantly hypocritical and what you believe makes you a bigot...perhaps you are differently off the forums...

          the most puzzling part is that you and others think your blind faith in the god theory makes you superior to non believers ... im sorry to break it to you, but you couldnt be more wrong... Blindly believing in a theory, passed down from illiterate generation to less illiterate generations , that can best be described as modern day science fiction that is loaded with humanly impossible feats, is really nothing to be proud of...you are proud to believe in the unproven and irrational...

          why? you believe, just like almost every single god fearing person on the planet, because you were told to do so and its been instilled in your brain since you were old enough to read... i understand, i completely do... your faith isnt proof and you shouldnt treat others differently until there is such proof
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          • raydog
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            • 11-07-07
            • 6984

            #1790
            Originally posted by jtoler
            I find it funny that humans get old enough and think they get smart enough to say there is no God, its hilarious. At one point you were in your crib couldn't wipe your butt, had to have someone take care of you, had to be told what to do and how to think, but a little time passes and somehow knowledge that's beyond comprehension is gained to the point where it can denounce a creator, that's unreal to me, I feel this way about everyone who says there is no God.
            do you not realize how much we have evolved in the last 100yrs... 50 yrs... 25 yrs...? and how much more we know now about the earth, space, evolution, universe etc... its only a matter of time before christians recieve even more demoralizing facts to debunk the god theory, jt... only a matter of time
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            • raydog
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              • 11-07-07
              • 6984

              #1791
              recon, i cant remember if ive asked you about the supernatural and its relation to the theory of god... if it brings up bad memories and you dont want to discuss it, dont fukk with it... i was just curious if that incident with your friend made you get into some deep research on spirits and stuff... i think you said its the primary force that led you to god, but its an interesting story and i was just curious as what you did after the traumatic episode..again, i understand if you would rather just not bring it up anymore
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              • jtoler
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                • 12-17-13
                • 30967

                #1792
                Originally posted by raydog
                do you not realize how much we have evolved in the last 100yrs... 50 yrs... 25 yrs...? and how much more we know now about the earth, space, evolution, universe etc... its only a matter of time before christians recieve even more demoralizing facts to debunk the god theory, jt... only a matter of time
                I can't begin to tell you how silly that sounds. I explained to you many pages ago how to identify and have Christ living inside of you, brainfreeze has done the same over and over yet you dismiss those posts detailing humility. It's the only way you're gonna know Him, so you can look outwardly all you want. You can admire and adhere to all scientists who tell you what you want to hear and esteem them simply because they have degrees, the Pharisees were learned men in Jesus' day, its not about knowledge, not worldly knowledge, so after all of that there's still only one way to know Him. I explained to you how believers don't walk around with blind faith yet you keep using that term. I asked you more than once what does man consist of, you ignored that question, I asked you does man have a spirit, you said you don't believe in any of that, which still begs the question why do you still post in this thread. I still believe there is a huge part of you that thinks there is a God but you want outwardly proof, even that you see every day but you're not convinced, your existence should be proof enough, but no, fine, everything you've said has been said by doubters for thousands of years even those in the bible. Thomas was among him and still doubted, so its not what you see outwardly brother, its what's revealed inwardly.
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                • raydog
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                  • 11-07-07
                  • 6984

                  #1793
                  i will always be on the opposite side of this...

                  you dont have proof... why you and others dont need it, is beyond me... your faith in the unknown and unproven is not proof... you sound silly when you say you feel god inside you or his presence ... its called an imagination... blind faith is exactly what you have when you lack that proof... its merely what you choose to believe and it doesnt matter if there is nothing more than illiterate ancestors or an ancient, completely manipulative book, to fall back on...

                  fwiw, for over half my life there is 0 part of me that believes in a god... too much already proves otherwise, especially if you are putting all your eggs in the bible basket...

                  doesnt mean we cant get along and doesnt mean one of us is better than the other... christians and other super natural fearing people refuse to believe this or live this way... their unproven beliefs cast an ugly judgmental cloud
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                  • ACoochy
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                    • 08-19-09
                    • 13949

                    #1794
                    Religion: Together we can find the cure...
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                    • jtoler
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-17-13
                      • 30967

                      #1795
                      Originally posted by raydog
                      i will always be on the opposite side of this...

                      you dont have proof... why you and others dont need it, is beyond me... your faith in the unknown and unproven is not proof... you sound silly when you say you feel god inside you or his presence ... its called an imagination... blind faith is exactly what you have when you lack that proof... its merely what you choose to believe and it doesnt matter if there is nothing more than illiterate ancestors or an ancient, completely manipulative book, to fall back on...

                      fwiw, for over half my life there is 0 part of me that believes in a god... too much already proves otherwise, especially if you are putting all your eggs in the bible basket...

                      doesnt mean we cant get along and doesnt mean one of us is better than the other... christians and other super natural fearing people refuse to believe this or live this way... their unproven beliefs cast an ugly judgmental cloud
                      Again tge way He said to get to know Him you reject that way by your own choice but have the nerve to say ok He isnt real simply because you say no God Im not doing that Ill just consider you non existent, thats pride. So you can never say you didnt know. When youre judged will you then tell Him He doesnt exist?
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                      • raydog
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                        • 11-07-07
                        • 6984

                        #1796
                        who is going to judge me? there is no proof there is anything to judge me... thats my point...

                        getting to "know" god is creating an imaginary presence in your mind... its like when you were a child and had an imaginary friend ... obviously, believing what you do, doesnt mean your life here will be better...you dont get more breaks...your prayers dont get answered, bad shit still happens to you and your family and you arent protected...to think otherwise is just ignorantly ignoring reality... i dont believe in the after life, same as there was no life for me before i was born... you believe in the bible and i dont ... at least as far as i am concerned, this will never change
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                        • brainfreeze
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                          • 05-13-14
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                          #1797
                          Originally posted by recon1
                          Rant" is fine and was well articulated. You sound like a carbon copy of myself (in terms of beliefs) not long ago. Probably not much i could say that you haven't heard already before.

                          Personal tragedies with kids etc. is just part of life and it really is that simple. We were not promised cookies & milk etc. we live, we die and no question we are judged on our deeds. I've been to St. Jude and witnessed the sad child diseases, but i like to question the foods and the vaccines we give our kids for the reasons these things happen and are happening in greater numbers, rather than why God allows this or that bad thing to happen to X,Y or Z person. Free will is more powerful than we realize.

                          That's my little rant, but only thing I've really gotta say is: I understand you perfectly.
                          Bingo...

                          solid post..
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                          • brainfreeze
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                            • 05-13-14
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                            #1798
                            Originally posted by jtoler
                            Again tge way He said to get to know Him you reject that way by your own choice but have the nerve to say ok He isnt real simply because you say no God Im not doing that Ill just consider you non existent, thats pride. So you can never say you didnt know. When youre judged will you then tell Him He doesnt exist?
                            Jtoler, your heating up bro... Tone it down a little...


                            I'm kidding!!! Keep it coming...lol
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                            • brainfreeze
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                              • 05-13-14
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                              #1799
                              Originally posted by raydog
                              no doubt, no doubt... i cant imagine how miserable it would be to live that long... heck, im not sure i want to live 40 more years...

                              as far as the 1 up goes, thats not it at all...it doesnt matter if its 1 or 100 or a million... it proves the bible and gods word as being false and the 120yrs was nothing more than someones guesstimation... makes sense the authors simply doubled what they figured a high avg. age, at death, to be during those times and wrote it as gods word... utter nonsense and it only takes 1 person to debunk that scripture... and debunked, it has been.

                              i was reading a bit on age/ages and there appear to be plenty of others who "supposedly" lived over 120yrs and into their 130s... but there isnt enough documented proof of it and i would be a hypocrite if i quoted it as truth... unfortunately, christians have no issue quoting peoples ages , from the bible, as truth.. when we all know its humanly impossible to live to be the absurd ages the bible claims some were...
                              I don't think so... I think it's pretty accurate, and a women living a year past changes absolutely nothing. It only proves that Gods word can be trusted, 120 is the cut off, if 1 does live a day past that it's only by Gods grace, but as I said billions won't ... and yes before the flood, they lived 900 years plus... We insulted God, and man cut Him deep, we hardly value life for 120, but there will be no more floods, and every time you see a rainbow, that's a lock on Gods promise to never do that again... but with 100 there's more then enough time to find God, enjoy family, and be satisfied ..
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                              • brainfreeze
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                                • 05-13-14
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                                #1800
                                Originally posted by raydog
                                i will always be on the opposite side of this...

                                you dont have proof... why you and others dont need it, is beyond me... your faith in the unknown and unproven is not proof... you sound silly when you say you feel god inside you or his presence ... its called an imagination... blind faith is exactly what you have when you lack that proof... its merely what you choose to believe and it doesnt matter if there is nothing more than illiterate ancestors or an ancient, completely manipulative book, to fall back on...

                                fwiw, for over half my life there is 0 part of me that believes in a god... too much already proves otherwise, especially if you are putting all your eggs in the bible basket...

                                doesnt mean we cant get along and doesnt mean one of us is better than the other... christians and other super natural fearing people refuse to believe this or live this way... their unproven beliefs cast an ugly judgmental cloud
                                We are proof and our testimonies stand by that, do you think grown men are taking time out of their day to tell you some fairytale, your just not ready to take the steps to meet him yet, and no ones going to press you to do that, encourage it, but it's free will... That's love

                                I'm satisfied with you listening and being engaged then just spewing nonsense like some here. I appreciate your concerned and being intrigued to wonder what makes us tic and Why we think as we do, these question lead to good answers, but you have to be willing to believe our answers, trust, example...

                                say you come to my part of the town and are running low on gas, you don't know where the nearest gas station is and you pull over and ask me " hey, excuse me, do you know where a gas station is around here " ? I tell you, yeah, there's one about a half mile up, take a left go down two blocks, look for it, it will be on your right, now you take this information, and you trust it, because you know I'm from here. Your loss raydog....
                                I'm giving you directions bro... Take heed to them and get to the gas station " God "
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                                • Triple_D_Bet
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                                  • 12-12-11
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                                  #1801
                                  Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                  ...do you think grown men are taking time out of their day to tell you some fairytale...
                                  We'd all rather not think it, but you guys are kinda going out of your way to convince us

                                  Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                  say you come to my part of the town and are running low on gas, you don't know where the nearest gas station is and you pull over and ask me " hey, excuse me, do you know where a gas station is around here " ? I tell you, yeah, there's one about a half mile up, take a left go down two blocks, look for it, it will be on your right, now you take this information, and you trust it, because you know I'm from here.
                                  A better analogy: if you tell a guy there's a gas station down two blocks, but he can't see it or get any gas there, and you only claim it's there because someone wrote it down in a book 2000 years ago...he's going to think you're full of shit, no matter how many times you claim your existence is proof
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                                  • bobbywaves
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-06-08
                                    • 13280

                                    #1802
                                    There are over 200 known parameters necessary for a planet to support life, equating to odds of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1 against our very existence here on earth. Yet here we are. Nobody will likely ever know how it happened, whether there is other life in the universe, or if there is another realm of life after we cease living.


                                    But there should be little doubt among us that somehow we came to exist as creations (we think therefore we are), nor doubt that all creation was somehow created (our five human senses constantly witnessing to the evidence). We & all of the endless universe have come about by some means of creation that escapes human understanding.


                                    The name assigned to the entity that generates creation is debatable, but the majority of civilizations from the most ancient and primitive to the most recent have named and defined that entity as a god, gods, or God. How is it a reasonable defensible position to believe there is no entity, no deserved basis for an assigned entity name, or minimal acknowledgement for that which accounts for our very creation & presence?
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                                    • raydog
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                                      • 11-07-07
                                      • 6984

                                      #1803
                                      i understand what you are trying to say and the analogy is okay, except you have actually been to the gas station and have traveled the route.. i cant trust in something that nobody knows the truth about and only believes because their family first told them to believe... or because a stroke of good luck or newfound psychological awareness happens...

                                      you, nor anyone else knows of a god...its something you want to believe, you trust in the bible and have faith in, even though there is a ton of science that backs why everything on the planet is here and a ton of science that proves the bible is full of absurdities....more importantly, its an easy out theory... im still fascinated by the christian mind and cant fathom why anyone believes the stories in the bible... its like sci-fi comes to real life in the christian imagination.

                                      in no way do i consider myself proof of a god and i cringe when i hear that, but also understand why christians think this... i consider myself a product of billions of years of growth and understand that everyday the god theory is put to question by more scientific research and findings... a long time ago, people adopted the theory of a god as it was a simple narrative... it gave easy answers for things and it was an easy idea to teach to children... its an ancient theory that is fizzling out as humans Evolve and continue to produce more intellectual , rational thinking offspring...

                                      believing in the ancient bible is not rational... argue it all you like, but the absurdities are too far fetched for modern man to believe... and i understand why you think you see miracles every day, but not the miracles that the bible teaches... not even close... and i understand you believe anything is possible as long as God is involved, but its too much of a telling sign when there has never been anything close to a bible absurdity performed since the bible was finished and produced...

                                      in other news, the mayor of baltimore is dumber than a fukking brick, but pretty damn hot... i would sling sin all over her ass
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                                      • raydog
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                                        • 11-07-07
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                                        #1804
                                        bobby, do you have any idea of how many billions upon billions of planets there literally are? dont be naive in thinking our planet is the only one that has or can support some type of living something.... the christian mind is so extremely manipulated by that full of shit book... its scary
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                                        • muldoon
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                                          • 01-04-10
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                                          #1805
                                          Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                          There are over 200 known parameters necessary for a planet to support life, equating to odds of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1 against our very existence here on earth. Yet here we are. Nobody will likely ever know how it happened, whether there is other life in the universe, or if there is another realm of life after we cease living.


                                          But there should be little doubt among us that somehow we came to exist as creations (we think therefore we are), nor doubt that all creation was somehow created (our five human senses constantly witnessing to the evidence). We & all of the endless universe have come about by some means of creation that escapes human understanding.


                                          The name assigned to the entity that generates creation is debatable, but the majority of civilizations from the most ancient and primitive to the most recent have named and defined that entity as a god, gods, or God. How is it a reasonable defensible position to believe there is no entity, no deserved basis for an assigned entity name, or minimal acknowledgement for that which accounts for our very creation & presence?
                                          We copy/paste therefore we are?


                                          Unless that's your post in that forum that you copied word for word.

                                          My favorite line from this page of the thread

                                          When youre judged will you then tell Him He doesnt exist?
                                          When you find out you worshiped the wrong god, how will you fix that mistake?
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                                          • bobbywaves
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                                            • 05-06-08
                                            • 13280

                                            #1806
                                            Originally posted by muldoon
                                            We copy/paste therefore we are?


                                            Unless that's your post in that forum that you copied word for word.
                                            I'm seekerofthetruth.....However, when did thoughts have to be original to believe & agree with them, & to share it's wisdom?


                                            When you find out you worshiped the wrong god, how will you fix that mistake?
                                            If I'm somehow mistaken, I'm confident it will not affect my afterlife. I'm equally as confident, your unfixable mistake will have unpleasant consequences to your afterlife.
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                                            • brainfreeze
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                                              #1807
                                              Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                              There are over 200 known parameters necessary for a planet to support life, equating to odds of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1 against our very existence here on earth. Yet here we are. Nobody will likely ever know how it happened, whether there is other life in the universe, or if there is another realm of life after we cease living.


                                              But there should be little doubt among us that somehow we came to exist as creations (we think therefore we are), nor doubt that all creation was somehow created (our five human senses constantly witnessing to the evidence). We & all of the endless universe have come about by some means of creation that escapes human understanding.


                                              The name assigned to the entity that generates creation is debatable, but the majority of civilizations from the most ancient and primitive to the most recent have named and defined that entity as a god, gods, or God. How is it a reasonable defensible position to believe there is no entity, no deserved basis for an assigned entity name, or minimal acknowledgement for that which accounts for our very creation & presence?
                                              More signs of the RCC popping out of you Bobby, not good... I wonder if the pope follows this philosophy as well ? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum
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                                              • brainfreeze
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                                                #1808
                                                Originally posted by raydog
                                                i understand what you are trying to say and the analogy is okay, except you have actually been to the gas station and have traveled the route.. i cant trust in something that nobody knows the truth about and only believes because their family first told them to believe... or because a stroke of good luck or newfound psychological awareness happens...

                                                you, nor anyone else knows of a god...its something you want to believe, you trust in the bible and have faith in, even though there is a ton of science that backs why everything on the planet is here and a ton of science that proves the bible is full of absurdities....more importantly, its an easy out theory... im still fascinated by the christian mind and cant fathom why anyone believes the stories in the bible... its like sci-fi comes to real life in the christian imagination.

                                                in no way do i consider myself proof of a god and i cringe when i hear that, but also understand why christians think this... i consider myself a product of billions of years of growth and understand that everyday the god theory is put to question by more scientific research and findings... a long time ago, people adopted the theory of a god as it was a simple narrative... it gave easy answers for things and it was an easy idea to teach to children... its an ancient theory that is fizzling out as humans Evolve and continue to produce more intellectual , rational thinking offspring...

                                                believing in the ancient bible is not rational... argue it all you like, but the absurdities are too far fetched for modern man to believe... and i understand why you think you see miracles every day, but not the miracles that the bible teaches... not even close... and i understand you believe anything is possible as long as God is involved, but its too much of a telling sign when there has never been anything close to a bible absurdity performed since the bible was finished and produced...

                                                in other news, the mayor of baltimore is dumber than a fukking brick, but pretty damn hot... i would sling sin all over her ass
                                                Which one is it ray, either I've travelled the route and know, or your saying I don't ... I'm telling you I'd rather die then denounce it, and these aren't just words budd, it's not something " I want to believe " it starts out that way, faith of a mustard seed moves mountains, when I tell you the gas station is where it is, and you go on your " journey " trying to find it, then boom, you on your own now find it, you'll say thank God for that guy, who knows what would've happened to my family and me if we would've ran out of gas in the middle of the city close to the projects...

                                                Anything can happen at anytime, we have today, it's precious, valuable, time....what a thing. Your on your journey though raydog, and I'm telling you I see things that defy logic and coincidence all the time, it's normal to me, I'm pointing you to where I fill up all the time, and that's the KJV bible and if some hard to understand compared with the NIV, stuffs mind blowing, when you find out it's all real, lol, for the first year, I kept saying this is all to real in my mind, you want the answers, only God can give them to you, you want to know how we think only God can relate that to you, if you think we are just going off our parents thoughts and instruction, your beyond misinformed, just wrong ... I have my own mind and was rebellious naturally, I didn't care what anyone had to say especially parents, my parents weren't even around bro, I'm sharing with you my walk, my time, and how I'm convinced beyond doubt God is real, you can keep referring back to modern man if you want but there's nothing new under the sun, and any new philosophy won't change that, we are not " evolving " that's crap man, leave it for the birds, if we came from ape which came from whatever, go back farther enough " rock " and now we're man then where's the next level, what are we evolving to, and where's the evidence of it ? with diseases on the rise and so much going wrong, where's the effectiveness of this evolution, it's bogus... Get to the station Raydog, enjoy the journey..
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                                                • brainfreeze
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                                                  #1809
                                                  Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                                  We'd all rather not think it, but you guys are kinda going out of your way to convince us



                                                  A better analogy: if you tell a guy there's a gas station down two blocks, but he can't see it or get any gas there, and you only claim it's there because someone wrote it down in a book 2000 years ago...he's going to think you're full of shit, no matter how many times you claim your existence is proof
                                                  I scream it from the rooftop if that's what you mean tripper, but you don't see me in every other thread strong arming the conversation lol, this is a thread about God and I stay true to form, if questions pop, I answer, if I feel like relaying a scripture I do, I'm not pushing so your wrong there.

                                                  noooo, I might've seen it on the map, and I've become frequent in the area, so I know my surroundings, Word comes to life, or in this case...directions, and it's there, so God is proof Himself, I don't have to convince, He's there, if your following the Word and taking down the " directions " you'll find Him, no doubt.
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                                                  • muldoon
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                                                    #1810
                                                    Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                    If I'm somehow mistaken, I'm confident it will not affect my afterlife. I'm equally as confident, your unfixable mistake will have unpleasant consequences to your afterlife.
                                                    That's quite the level of confidence you have in a few unproven concepts.

                                                    I guess that fits right in with your belief in a soul Santa though.
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                                                    • brainfreeze
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                                                      #1811
                                                      Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                      I'm seekerofthetruth.....However, when did thoughts have to be original to believe & agree with them, & to share it's wisdom?

                                                      .
                                                      I know, right ? ...
                                                      This guy is something when it comes to checking a post,
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                                                      • raydog
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                                                        #1812
                                                        If God controls all, Can it be explained why God drops so much rain in certain areas? Tornado alley? Quake areas? I dunno if I've asked about these things yet
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                                                        • muldoon
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                                                          #1813
                                                          Honest question.

                                                          Has god spoken to any of the devout believers here? If so, what did he say/ask/command to you? Was it through a sign or an actual voice you heard?
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                                                          • raydog
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                                                            • 11-07-07
                                                            • 6984

                                                            #1814
                                                            Originally posted by muldoon
                                                            Honest question.

                                                            Has god spoken to any of the devout believers here? If so, what did he say/ask/command to you? Was it through a sign or an actual voice you heard?
                                                            Paranoid Schizophrenia, even if its Borderline, isnt something most dont want to admit... the minds imagination is a powerful thing
                                                            Last edited by raydog; 04-28-15, 11:41 PM. Reason: sorry, most Dont want to admit...
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                                                            • bobbywaves
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-06-08
                                                              • 13280

                                                              #1815
                                                              Originally posted by muldoon
                                                              That's quite the level of confidence you have in a few unproven concepts.
                                                              "Unproven" in your mind, not mine.

                                                              Refer back to all the near death experiences I linked, that you naively dismiss.
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                                                              • bobbywaves
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-06-08
                                                                • 13280

                                                                #1816
                                                                Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                                                More signs of the RCC popping out of you Bobby, not good... I wonder if the pope follows this philosophy as well ? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum
                                                                It's quite good, & the Pope subscribes to this philosophy as well.
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                                                                • Triple_D_Bet
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 12-12-11
                                                                  • 7626

                                                                  #1817
                                                                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                                  There are over 200 known parameters necessary for a planet to support life, equating to odds of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1 against our very existence here on earth. Yet here we are. Nobody will likely ever know how it happened, whether there is other life in the universe, or if there is another realm of life after we cease living...
                                                                  There are over 1100 letters in your copy and pasted logical fallacy, equating to odds of over 2,300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1 against the very existence of that rubbish. Yet there it is. Nobody will likely ever know how it happened, whether there is similar rubbish on other forums, or if there is even more rubbish after we cease living.

                                                                  See what I did there? No, probably not...intelligent design fans never seem to spot the gaping flaw with their assumptions

                                                                  Copy and paste aside, logical fallacies pertaining to odds aren't the best argument to drag out on a gambling forum...but given your well-documented misunderstanding of them, color me not surprised

                                                                  Originally posted by brainfreeze
                                                                  I scream it from the rooftop if that's what you mean tripper, but you don't see me in every other thread strong arming the conversation lol, this is a thread about God and I stay true to form, if questions pop, I answer, if I feel like relaying a scripture I do, I'm not pushing so your wrong there.

                                                                  noooo, I might've seen it on the map, and I've become frequent in the area, so I know my surroundings, Word comes to life, or in this case...directions, and it's there, so God is proof Himself, I don't have to convince, He's there, if your following the Word and taking down the " directions " you'll find Him, no doubt.
                                                                  Hrm? Not saying you're pushing it on anyone; commenting that your original question (do you think grown men are taking time out of their day to talk about fairy tales) has a well-documented answer in this very thread.

                                                                  Claiming something is real but you don't have to prove it is (rightfully) viewed as highly irrational behavior by vast majority of the world (religious and non-religious alike), but people seem to make an exception for their favorite fairy tales

                                                                  Originally posted by bobbywaves
                                                                  I'm seekerofthetruth.....However, when did thoughts have to be original to believe & agree with them, & to share it's wisdom?




                                                                  If I'm somehow mistaken, I'm confident it will not affect my afterlife. I'm equally as confident, your unfixable mistake will have unpleasant consequences to your afterlife.
                                                                  You and others claim your beliefs to be true, and that non-believers will have their afterlife affected because of their mistakes. But you can't even exercise enough brainpower to realize that if you're mistaken, the same would apply to you? I think we can all agree that if "heaven" is full of idiots like yourself, it's not a place to look forward to visiting
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                                                                  • PAULYPOKER
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 12-06-08
                                                                    • 36581

                                                                    #1818
                                                                    Originally posted by muldoon


                                                                    When you find out you worshiped the wrong god, how will you fix that mistake?
                                                                    Lol,

                                                                    The funniest thing about this is the "believers" do not grasp the reality,depth of insanity this is.
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                                                                    • Jayvegas420
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 03-09-11
                                                                      • 28213

                                                                      #1819
                                                                      Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                                      Lol,

                                                                      The funniest thing about this is the "believers"choose not to grasp the reality,depth of insanity this is.
                                                                      Fixed
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                                                                      • PAULYPOKER
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 12-06-08
                                                                        • 36581

                                                                        #1820
                                                                        Oh,I see..

                                                                        You admit the curtain is wide open but you were "ordered" not to open your eyes ..

                                                                        You'd make an outstanding soldier son.

                                                                        Serious question:

                                                                        Does yo mama still wipe your azz clean then change your drawers?
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