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  • RoyBacon
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    • 09-21-05
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    #21316
    Originally posted by chico2663
    your problem is it takes 60 votes to proceed to a vote.
    New Senate rules
    In 2013, frustrated by persistent Republican filibustering of Obama's nominees, then-majority Democrats changed Senate rules so that only Supreme Court nominations could be blocked. Republicans were outraged.
    John Cornyn of Texas warned of setting "a new precedent in the Senate — one that says it's permissible to break the rules of the Senate at any point to get your own way if the majority has the gumption to do it."

    "They [Democrats] set the standard [for limiting the filibuster]," said Utah Republican Orrin Hatch. "They really screwed up the rules, frankly, for purely political purposes. Republicans are not limited now. They can do whatever they think is in the best interests of the country."


    You guys have no one to blame but yourselves for watering down the filibuster rules. And still no, you don't need 60 votes to bring a bill to the floor, except a SC nominee.
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    • Cuse0323
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      • 12-09-09
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      #21317
      Thank you, Harry Reid.

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      • RoyBacon
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        • 09-21-05
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        #21318
        Originally posted by Cuse0323
        Thank you, Harry Reid.

        Who would have thunk that ole crooked Harry Reid would be the hero and open the gates for Making America Great???
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        • chico2663
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          • 09-02-10
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          #21319
          Originally posted by RoyBacon
          New Senate rules
          In 2013, frustrated by persistent Republican filibustering of Obama's nominees, then-majority Democrats changed Senate rules so that only Supreme Court nominations could be blocked. Republicans were outraged.
          John Cornyn of Texas warned of setting "a new precedent in the Senate — one that says it's permissible to break the rules of the Senate at any point to get your own way if the majority has the gumption to do it."

          "They [Democrats] set the standard [for limiting the filibuster]," said Utah Republican Orrin Hatch. "They really screwed up the rules, frankly, for purely political purposes. Republicans are not limited now. They can do whatever they think is in the best interests of the country."


          You guys have no one to blame but yourselves for watering down the filibuster rules. And still no, you don't need 60 votes to bring a bill to the floor, except a SC nominee.
          your problem is rob portman and 3 other senators have said they will not vote for this if it blocks medicaid expansion. so
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          • chico2663
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            • 09-02-10
            • 36993

            #21320
            To repeal the bulk of Obamacare, the GOP will have to keep 218 House members and at least 50 senators — and majorities of relevant committees — together.
            In the Republican camp alone, that includes stalwart free market conservatives, Trump loyalists, the pro-business party establishment, members from states that have benefited from Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion, old-timers who have been in Congress forever, and a fair number of members representing states or districts Hillary Clinton won. They’ll also need to satisfy President Trump, who will wield a veto pen at the end of the day.

            Then to actually replace the law with their own full-blown plan, Republicans reportedly believe they will have to go through regular Senate order rather than the special reconciliation process — meaning they’ll need 60 votes. That means at least eight Senate Democrats in addition to all the factions described above would have to agree to enact a replacement.
            And at every stage, many people and groups who don’t get an outright vote will weigh in. They include the GOP governors in states that have expanded Medicaid and might not be so eager to see that expansion rolled back. They include major health-related interest groups: The American Medical Association, for one, has already said repeal shouldn’t happen until a replacement is ready, and hospitals and the pharmaceutical industry will surely also weigh in.
            There are also think tank wonks and activist groups, on both the right and the left, in groups like Americans for Prosperity and Families USA. And there are the guardians of Hill procedure — like the Congressional Budget Office, which will estimate how much Republican bills will cost and how many people would lose coverage, and the Senate parliamentarian, who will enforce the chamber’s rules about which provisions can be passed through the 51-vote reconciliation process.

            Bringing enough people together in support of just one plan will be difficult. It’s no accident that health reform legislation ate up nine full months of President Obama’s first two years. So when you hear Trump say he wants it wrapped up quickly — “long to me would be weeks,” he told the New York Times Tuesday — keep in mind that that means all of the following will have to happen very quickly indeed.
            Phase 1: Make 51 the magic number for repeal in the Senate (done)

            <figure class="e-image" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: inherit; vertical-align: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 2.2rem 0px; padding: 0px;"><figcaption style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: inherit; vertical-align: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; display: inline;">The GOP Senate leadership, with Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in the center.</figcaption> <cite style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: inherit; vertical-align: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; display: inline; opacity: 0.75;">YURI GRIPAS/AFP/Getty</cite></figure>The first thing Republicans had to do was make sure they can pass most of Obamacare repeal with just 51 Senate votes — that is, exempting it from the infamous filibuster, which can block nearly all legislation that doesn’t have the support of 60 senators.
            For complex procedural reasons I explained at greater length here, the way the GOP actually went about doing this was by passing a budget resolution through both houses of Congress. That’s what the GOP did this week.
            Though some Republicans are selling the budget resolution as an “Obamacare repeal resolution,” it does nothing of the kind. It doesn’t change law or policy in any way whatsoever.
            Instead, the sole purpose of the budget resolution is to kick-start a special congressional process called budget reconciliation that will make one forthcoming bill immune to the filibuster. And since Republicans have 52 Senate seats and a House majority, that effectively ensures no Democratic support will be necessary for repeal. (Replacement is a different matter.)
            Luckily for Republicans, the budget resolution itself was also immune to the filibuster — meaning it could pass with just 51 Senate votes, and it did so Thursday morning. The House of Representatives then passed a budget resolution with identical language Friday, making it go into effect (no presidential signature is needed).
            This is the easy part, because nothing is actually happening to Obamacare yet. Still, a surprising amount of intra-Republican division has surfaced during the process. A group of GOP senators with very different ideological backgrounds publicly pushed to slow down the process. Meanwhile, in the House, members of the notoriously difficult-to-govern conservative Freedom Caucus have complained about the spending levels in the budget resolution and the language it contains. But the GOP did manage to remain united during this first phase.
            Phase 2: Writing and passing the repeal bill (or, the bill that can’t be filibustered)

            <figure class="e-image" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: inherit; vertical-align: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 2.2rem 0px; padding: 0px;"><figcaption style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: inherit; vertical-align: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; display: inline;">Sen. Orrin Hatch (left) of Utah chairs the Senate Finance Committee, and Sen. Lamar Alexander chairs the Senate HELP Committee. They’ll both be hugely important in this debate.</figcaption> <cite style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: inherit; vertical-align: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; display: inline; opacity: 0.75;">Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call/Getty</cite></figure>Now that the budget resolution has passed, though, things are about to get very complicated very quickly, as Congress starts to actually write the Obamacare repeal bill.
            This is when they’ll have to settle two big questions — just how much of Obamacare do they really want repealed, and should this repeal bill (which can be passed with just 51 votes) include some elements of an Obamacare replacement too?
            The process starts at the committee level. Already, things get confusing, because there’s no one committee in charge of health care policy in either chamber. In the Senate, the Finance Committee and the Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (HELP) Committee will each draft its own version of repeal. In the House, the task will fall to the Ways and Means Committee and the Energy and Commerce Committee. (In 2009, Democrats gave the House Education and Labor Committee a role too, but this committee isn’t mentioned in this year’s budget resolution.)
            So discussion and debate on what repeal should look like, exactly, will take place simultaneously in at least four committees. Each will have to decide on a starting plan to work off of (perhaps the plan Trump has promised he’ll release, or the plan Congress passed and President Obama vetoed last year). Then the representatives and senators sitting on each committee will propose various amendments, which the full committee will vote on.
            In the Senate particularly, these committees are run by strong-willed chairs who expect to have a major role in shaping the process. They are Finance Committee Chair Orrin Hatch(R-UT), the longest-serving Republican senator, and HELP Committee Chair Lamar Alexander (R-TN), a widely respected former governor. Both are conservative, but neither is an ideologue — they’re pragmatists who will carefully consider how the changes they make will play out on the ground. Alexander in particular has already shown a willingness to buck GOP leaders’ Obamacare strategy in favor of laying out his own timeline.
            At this stage of the process, the Congressional Budget Office will also weigh in. The CBO is Congress’s nonpartisan budget scorekeeper, and it will issue estimates on just how much the GOP repeal proposals will cost (or save) — and how many people they’d deprive of insurance. The office is particularly important in this situation because each committee has to submit a bill that will reduce the deficit, according to the budget resolution that sets up that expedited reconciliation process. So if CBO concludes the GOP’s bill would raise the deficit, that’s a big problem.
            The committee members themselves will also make their voices heard — particularly in the Senate, where Republican majorities are narrow. Should Democrats remain united against repeal, the GOP can’t afford to lose a single Republican senator in each committee.
            Those senators come from very different states, representing very different interests, with diverse ideological views. On the HELP committee, Republicans will have to wrangle the moderate Susan Collins (R-ME) and the libertarian Rand Paul (R-KY) into agreement on a plan. On Finance, they’ll need the support of purple staters like Dean Heller (R-NV) and Pat Toomey (R-PA).
            And Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA), a physician representing a poor conservative state with many Obamacare beneficiaries, serves on both committees — but he’s sounded skeptical of a full repeal of the law, saying in early January that he wanted to get rid of its “penalties and mandates” but not necessarily “the other stuff.” Cassidy’s reticence illustrates a bigger dynamic here — Republicans are strongly committed to the slogan of “repealing Obamacare,” but there seems to be a whole lot of disagreement on how much of it should actually be abolished.
            Eventually, each committee will each have to vote to report out a bill. After that comes the merger process — the multiple committee final products will be merged into one House bill and one Senate bill, in a process guided by each chamber’s leadership and key committee chairs.
            Furthermore, since the Senate’s rules only allow it to consider certain types of bills under that filibuster-proof budget reconciliation process — everything in the bill must have a significant impact on federal spending or revenues — the bill that emerges here will have to win the approval of the Senate parliamentarian, a nonpartisan officer in charge of enforcing those rules.
            Then, at long last, each bill will proceed to the full House and full Senate, where a great many amendments will likely be considered and voted on. In the House, 218 votes would be needed for passage — and if no Democrats sign on, that means at least some members of the famously truculent Freedom Caucus would have to deem the bill conservative enough for their tastes. In the Senate, the support of at least 50 senators would be needed to produce a tie that could be broken by Vice President Mike Pence.
            Still, that’s not the end of the story — since the House and Senate will likely end up with different final products, a conference committee would be convened with representatives from both chambers to iron out the differences.
            Whatever the conference committee settles on would then again have to pass the full House and Senate — and it would then be presented for President Trump’s signature (should he choose to give it). Whew.
            Phase 3: Writing and passing the “replace” bill (or, the bill that can be filibustered)

            <figure class="e-image" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: inherit; vertical-align: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 2.2rem 0px; padding: 0px;"><figcaption style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: inherit; vertical-align: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; display: inline;">To pass a full-blown Obamacare replacement, Republicans may need to win over moderate Democratic senators like Heidi Heitkamp (ND) and Joe Manchin (WV).</figcaption> <cite style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: inherit; vertical-align: inherit; font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit; font-style: inherit; line-height: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; display: inline; opacity: 0.75;">Melina Mara/The Washington Post via Getty</cite></figure>But that may not be the end of the legislative process — because Republicans, including President-elect Trump, have repeatedly promised that Obamacare would not only be repealed but would also be replaced with something better.
            Republicans aren’t anywhere close to a consensus on what this replacement would entail, policy-wise. They’re even undecided on the timing and the legislative strategy for trying to pass a replacement.
            One obstacle here is the set of pesky Senate rules about just what the reconciliation process can be used for. Depending on how it’s written, a full-blown health reform bill would likely contain many provisions that don’t have a specific budgetary impact. “Allowing insurance companies to sell across state lines, for instance, probably can’t fly under reconciliation,” says Sarah Binder, a congressional procedure expert at the Brookings Institution. Instead, policy changes like that would likely have to be considered under normal Senate order, which means they could be filibustered.
            The upshot is that a comprehensive replace bill could well need 60 Senate votes, not just 51, to advance — which means the GOP would have to win over at least eight Senate Democrats. That seems immensely challenging. However, the New York Times’s Maggie Haberman and Robert Pear report that House Speaker Paul Ryan’s aides currently believe the Senate will end up having to try to pass an ordinary bill alongside or shortly after the reconciliation effort to enact truly comprehensive health reform.
            If there’s a second piece of legislation (or a few more pieces of legislation) involved in the effort, then the bulk of the process outlined above — debates and amendments in four committees, Congressional Budget Office scoring, a merger of the committees’ various bills, a floor debate and amendments, passage in both chambers, conference committee, passage again in both chambers, and the president’s signature — would all have to be done again. But the threshold at the end for success in the Senate would be 60 votes, because of that filibuster.
            There are five Democratic senators representing deep red states that Trump won by double digits: Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Claire McCaskill of Missouri, and Jon Tester of Montana. All five are up for reelection in 2018, so they might be eager to work with Trump on high-profile issues to prove their centrist bona fides. Still, most of them have shown no love for the GOP’s Obamacare replacement ideas. And even if they are won over, Republicans would need to pick off at least three more Democrats — and it’s harder to imagine whom they might be.
            A replacement effort under the regular rules, therefore, seems likely to stall. If it does, there may be a round of chatter from the right about whether the filibuster should be eliminated. But many key Republican senators seem distinctly uninterested in taking such a drastic measure.
            In the end, Obamacare repeal and replacement will be an incredibly complex and likely an incredibly lengthy task. There’s no guarantee of success at the end for Republicans. But there are many points indeed at which things could go horribly awry.

            Watch: Repealing Obamacare could change millions of lives





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            • chico2663
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              • 09-02-10
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              #21321
              you would be right as far as repeal but replace they need 60. You need 60 to bring legislation to the floor.
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              • Trident
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                • 02-07-09
                • 2362

                #21322
                We go from "Affordable Care Act" to "American Health Care Act"

                Hold onto your wallets because you're about to get the high hard one.
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                • chico2663
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                  • 09-02-10
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                  #21323
                  Originally posted by RoyBacon
                  New Senate rules
                  In 2013, frustrated by persistent Republican filibustering of Obama's nominees, then-majority Democrats changed Senate rules so that only Supreme Court nominations could be blocked. Republicans were outraged.
                  John Cornyn of Texas warned of setting "a new precedent in the Senate — one that says it's permissible to break the rules of the Senate at any point to get your own way if the majority has the gumption to do it."

                  "They [Democrats] set the standard [for limiting the filibuster]," said Utah Republican Orrin Hatch. "They really screwed up the rules, frankly, for purely political purposes. Republicans are not limited now. They can do whatever they think is in the best interests of the country."


                  You guys have no one to blame but yourselves for watering down the filibuster rules. And still no, you don't need 60 votes to bring a bill to the floor, except a SC nominee.
                  You really need to read your own articles before you share them.It shows that they need 60. lol
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                  • RoyBacon
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                    • 09-21-05
                    • 37074

                    #21324
                    Originally posted by chico2663
                    You really need to read your own articles before you share them.It shows that they need 60. lol
                    I'm willing to wager that the senate will work around the filibuster rule, which democrats changed, and will NOT need 60 votes to replace Obama care. 500 points?
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                    • rkelly110
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                      • 10-05-09
                      • 39410

                      #21325
                      Originally posted by Cuse0323
                      Come on now. You know that 10% kept will mean a victory to Dems. They will say that I told you so, and Obamacare must be great because they kept two parts of it.

                      It's a fckin landmine. You can't take away insurance from people that didn't have it, but conservatives don't want more entitlements. They are gonna have to deal with it, unfortunately.

                      If Obama did anything good, it was most certainly dumping the biggest pile of shit for Republicans to wade through.
                      Instead of sitting on their asses for 8 years letting Obama step on his own dick, they wouldn't have a big
                      pile of shit to wade through, now would they?
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                      • itchypickle
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-05-09
                        • 21452

                        #21326
                        Originally posted by chico2663
                        Is that like that usa steel that now is russian steel? They just delivered on march 2 2017 steel that is produced in russia. I find it funny that this guy has not done a damn thing that he promised but you SHEEP still bow down at the alter. I hope they do pass it so when your premiums sky rocket you can blame it on obama care.
                        They Russian owned steel is in the ground all around the country man. Don't act like it's part of the conspiracy and it's not delivered "from Russia" some Russians on Evraz and other fab shops and they employ people in US and Canada who get it to market. But again....the EO clearly stated new and repairs for pipelines....and that's what is taking place. Stop spinning it. keystone project had orders filled and dropped off years ago so of course after being behind millions of dollars already they are going to up and say let's go in the hole further to order....wait...and use different pipes. That would be stupid.

                        Reference the projects about to go in....all being coordinated with US companies. I'm headed to pickup two new Cats next week with a buddy from Willbros and they've already seen the new change in place.I'll be glad to get you some pictures of the made in USA steel being layed on the next job of you want.
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                        • Cuse0323
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                          • 12-09-09
                          • 30169

                          #21327
                          Originally posted by rkelly110
                          Instead of sitting on their asses for 8 years letting Obama step on his own dick, they wouldn't have a big
                          pile of shit to wade through, now would they?
                          They had no say in Obamacare, now did they?
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                          • rkelly110
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                            • 10-05-09
                            • 39410

                            #21328
                            Originally posted by Cuse0323
                            They had no say in Obamacare, now did they?
                            Yes they did. It came to each of their floors. Instead of putting their 2 cents into it, they sat there with their
                            bottom lips out pouting.
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                            • Cuse0323
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                              • 12-09-09
                              • 30169

                              #21329
                              Originally posted by rkelly110
                              Yes they did. It came to each of their floors. Instead of putting their 2 cents into it, they sat there with their
                              bottom lips out pouting.
                              Sure thing. The Dems didn't push it right through. Gotcha. I'm sure they would have listened to any Republican. Unreal.
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                              • JIBBBY
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-10-09
                                • 83479

                                #21330
                                Liberal news shiit storm happening now over deportations here in California and Arizona.. More protests are starting, Mexicans demanding Amnesty for all illegals...

                                Loving this as these Mexican illegals are finally being deported like never before.. Come back legally or don't come back at all!!! If the family doesn't like it then they can join you in Mexico as well.. Deport everyone ...http://laist.com/2017/03/06/romulo_rally.php#photo-1

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                                • Thor4140
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                                  • 02-09-08
                                  • 22277

                                  #21331
                                  Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                  That don't make it right!
                                  But if you have to do it that way, at least remove the absurdity of 3+ votes value for some states' voters over those in other states.
                                  If it was flip the other way where these assholes won the majority but lost the electoral, they would be screaming to the high heavens. They are the biggest hypocritical jackasses on the planet. When they spout their Fox News nonsense they think we are as dumb as them, and should believe it like these pigeons do.
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                                  • RoyBacon
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                                    • 09-21-05
                                    • 37074

                                    #21332
                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                    If it was flip the other way where these assholes won the majority but lost the electoral, they would be screaming to the high heavens. They are the biggest hypocritical jackasses on the planet. When they spout their Fox News nonsense they think we are as dumb as them, and should believe it like these pigeons do.
                                    LOL, dude get a grip. No we wouldn't be rioting, wearing vaginas on our heads, silencing free speech, fake newsing and crying. We understand it's an electoral college vote. Why do you think Trump spent so much time in Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan and zero time in Cali and NY? Come on, you are smarter than that.
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                                    • khicks26
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-16-06
                                      • 44208

                                      #21333
                                      Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                      How anyone can watch more than a few minutes of this guy is beyond me. I love that all the so called sources went to CNN, or the Washington Post. Surely believable, and if true who cares.

                                      A President getting angry. Say it ain't so. Especially after all the bullshit being slung at him. Never before has a President had to deal with so many leaks, hatred, and obstruction from the other side. The women fckin wore white, and ran out of a Presidents speech. I think they forgot it's 2017.

                                      If anyone is a crybaby, it's the damn Dems. Everyday I have to see Chuckie crying about anything he can. Trump could ask him to write whatever bill he wants, and he will sign it. Chuck, and Nancy would still hate it.
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                                      • DwightShrute
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                                        • 01-17-09
                                        • 101802

                                        #21334
                                        Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                        LOL, dude get a grip. No we wouldn't be rioting, wearing vaginas on our heads, silencing free speech, fake newsing and crying. We understand it's an electoral college vote. Why do you think Trump spent so much time in Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan and zero time in Cali and NY? Come on, you are smarter than that.
                                        love the sarcasm.
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                                        • JIBBBY
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 12-10-09
                                          • 83479

                                          #21335
                                          Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                          LOL, dude get a grip. No we wouldn't be rioting, wearing vaginas on our heads, silencing free speech, fake newsing and crying. We understand it's an electoral college vote. Why do you think Trump spent so much time in Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan and zero time in Cali and NY? Come on, you are smarter than that.
                                          Butt hurt snow flakes still can't see or accept the fair election outcome of the Don.. Republicans have more class for sure..

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                                          • JIBBBY
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                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 83479

                                            #21336
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                                            • khicks26
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-16-06
                                              • 44208

                                              #21337
                                              Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                              How anyone can watch more than a few minutes of this guy is beyond me. I love that all the so called sources went to CNN, or the Washington Post. Surely believable, and if true who cares.

                                              A President getting angry. Say it ain't so. Especially after all the bullshit being slung at him. Never before has a President had to deal with so many leaks, hatred, and obstruction from the other side. The women fckin wore white, and ran out of a Presidents speech. I think they forgot it's 2017.

                                              If anyone is a crybaby, it's the damn Dems. Everyday I have to see Chuckie crying about anything he can. Trump could ask him to write whatever bill he wants, and he will sign it. Chuck, and Nancy would still hate it.
                                              TYT is the most watched News show on the web, Cenk is funny as shit. But it is a left opinion show. Maybe its the message you don't like. Kinda like when I watch Hannity on Fox. I think the guy is the biggest asshole in the world.

                                              But it does not diminish the fact that Trump is a total wreck in the White House. I know he has a lot of the assholes in government working against him. Some even in his own party. But that does not mean that he has the best interest of the people. I think much like Obama, Trump has the best interest of Trump.

                                              The MSM are assholes, that's why I watch the News online. They are all owed by corporations. All your going to get from them is what they want to tell you. Most of the time its what's left unsaid that is most important.
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                                              • khicks26
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 09-16-06
                                                • 44208

                                                #21338
                                                Originally posted by itchypickle
                                                It's going to be amazing....a beautiful thing! Patients are gonna start winning again. Believe me!

                                                I like what I see so far.
                                                We need Single payer like the rest of the modern world. Fuk all this diking around with clowns trying to get a free lunch off sick people.
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                                                • DwightShrute
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                                                  • 01-17-09
                                                  • 101802

                                                  #21339
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                                                  • khicks26
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                                                    • 09-16-06
                                                    • 44208

                                                    #21340
                                                    OH Canada Dwight.

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                                                    • Snowball
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                                                      • 11-15-09
                                                      • 30089

                                                      #21341
                                                      North Korea will not last much longer, Trump will take them down.

                                                      shit has to stop.
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                                                      • INVEGA MAN
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                                                        • 01-30-08
                                                        • 6787

                                                        #21342
                                                        He will NUKE them
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                                                        • JIBBBY
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 83479

                                                          #21343
                                                          North Korea is a dictatorship ran Country, shut off from the entire world and Kim is in total control of all that.. Leads thru fear and oppresses the people... He even banned the internet..

                                                          North Korea should be liberated from that nut bag leader Kim as that would make the world a safer place in the future, also it would free millions that are basically in slavery right now...

                                                          No telling what Kim would do though if threatened to lose his dictatorship control.. He'd unleash nukes for sure if he had them...N. Korea needs to have a revolution from it's own people first.. Don't think Trump and or S. Korea can do much as far as a strong military strike unless provoked first...

                                                          Luckily Kim is struggling to keep up with the technological military advances compared to the rest of the world super powers..

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                                                          • chico2663
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 09-02-10
                                                            • 36993

                                                            #21344
                                                            Originally posted by itchypickle
                                                            They Russian owned steel is in the ground all around the country man. Don't act like it's part of the conspiracy and it's not delivered "from Russia" some Russians on Evraz and other fab shops and they employ people in US and Canada who get it to market. But again....the EO clearly stated new and repairs for pipelines....and that's what is taking place. Stop spinning it. keystone project had orders filled and dropped off years ago so of course after being behind millions of dollars already they are going to up and say let's go in the hole further to order....wait...and use different pipes. That would be stupid.

                                                            Reference the projects about to go in....all being coordinated with US companies. I'm headed to pickup two new Cats next week with a buddy from Willbros and they've already seen the new change in place.I'll be glad to get you some pictures of the made in USA steel being layed on the next job of you want.
                                                            In his speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) last week, President Donald Trump commemorated the one-month anniversary of his executive orders calling for the approval of the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines, as well as one calling for U.S. pipelines to get their line pipe steel from U.S. facilities.
                                                            “I said, who makes the pipes for the pipeline?” Trump told the CPAC crowd. “If they want a pipeline in the United States, they're going to use pipe that's made in the United States, do we agree?”
                                                            But while the pipe may be made in the U.S., as DeSmog has shown in previous investigations, ownership tells a different story. Enter: TMK IPSCO, a massive producer of steel for U.S. oil country tubular goods (OCTG) and line pipe, and a subsidiary of TMK Group. A DeSmog investigation has found ties between TMK Group's Board of Directors and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
                                                            TMK Group was incorporated in 2001, and in 2008, TMK IPSCO opened its doors as a U.S. subsidiary with a heavy focus on making oilfield pipes on behalf of companies performing hydraulic fracturing (“fracking”) techniques in the Marcellus Shale basin located in the northeast U.S. TMK IPSCO, which has said it wants to be a direct competitor of U.S. Steel Corporation in the Marcellus, also makes steel for companies doing fracking in the Bakken Shale basin, located primarily in North Dakota.
                                                            TMK Group also has a subsidiary named TMK Completions, which manufactures “multi-stage completion systems and tools for both uncemented and cemented well completion designs” for the fracking process. TMK did not respond to repeated requests for comment for this story.
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                                                            • chico2663
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 09-02-10
                                                              • 36993

                                                              #21345
                                                              Originally posted by itchypickle
                                                              They Russian owned steel is in the ground all around the country man. Don't act like it's part of the conspiracy and it's not delivered "from Russia" some Russians on Evraz and other fab shops and they employ people in US and Canada who get it to market. But again....the EO clearly stated new and repairs for pipelines....and that's what is taking place. Stop spinning it. keystone project had orders filled and dropped off years ago so of course after being behind millions of dollars already they are going to up and say let's go in the hole further to order....wait...and use different pipes. That would be stupid.

                                                              Reference the projects about to go in....all being coordinated with US companies. I'm headed to pickup two new Cats next week with a buddy from Willbros and they've already seen the new change in place.I'll be glad to get you some pictures of the made in USA steel being layed on the next job of you want.
                                                              so if it starts and is shaped in russia. But is welded together in the states that makes it american steel? Who is trying to zoom who. They took delivery on march 2,2017. Please get your facts straight.
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                                                              • chico2663
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 09-02-10
                                                                • 36993

                                                                #21346
                                                                to get the new bill passed with health companies now the ceo of these companies won't have to pay taxes on their pay. So if a ceo makes 27 million. They will pay nothing on the federal end.
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                                                                • JIBBBY
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                                  • 83479

                                                                  #21347
                                                                  Originally posted by Snowball
                                                                  North Korea will not last much longer, Trump will take them down.

                                                                  shit has to stop.
                                                                  Kim is flirting with danger - http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/06/asia/n...s-kim-jong-un/
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                                                                  • chico2663
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 09-02-10
                                                                    • 36993

                                                                    #21348
                                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                    Butt hurt snow flakes still can't see or accept the fair election outcome of the Don.. Republicans have more class for sure..

                                                                    I think the snowflake is crying that obama tapped his phones
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                                                                    • chico2663
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 09-02-10
                                                                      • 36993

                                                                      #21349
                                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                      buddy trump has already pulled his obama. They have fired missles on separate days. China made him back up on taiwan. If he was as strong has you guys thought then he would quit doing the obama dance
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                                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                                        • 83479

                                                                        #21350
                                                                        Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                        I think the snowflakes are crying about the Russian fake news allegations
                                                                        Fixed Chico.

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