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  • khicks26
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-16-06
    • 45704

    #176
    Originally posted by itchypickle
    I'll admit I'm not for secession of any kind...sounds good in principle but won't work as applied with all the resourcing and commerce and such. I do need to chime in though at the blatant double standard some have yet again (not you khicks)...when Vermont wants to break away it's a free spirited great idea...when Texas wants to...its ridiculed as insane people.
    Well Texas is a little different, & you got to admit the people are insane. Not that its a bad thing. But I'm sure most of that has to do with oil & money. But yeah Texas should be allowed break from the Union if thats what the people want. Hell its big enough to be its own country. Problem is there is not enough room for all us to live there. lol Texas would do well on its own. That might just bring down the whole house of U.S. cards.
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    • itchypickle
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-05-09
      • 21452

      #177
      [QUOTE=khicks26;23594581]Well Texas is a little different, & you got to admit the people are insane. Not that its a bad thing. But I'm sure most of that has to do with oil & money. But yeah Texas should be allowed break from the Union if thats what the people want. Hell its big enough to be its own country. Problem is there is not enough room for all us to live there. lol Texas would do well on its own. That might just bring down the whole house of U.S. cards.[/QUOTE

      not to mention Texas gets 40% of energy from wind as well so the entire state isn't nuts.
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      • Snowball
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 11-15-09
        • 30064

        #178
        Vermont.. it was better before the New York City and New Jersey people
        started going up there and buying it.
        There won't be a place left on earth safe from the big money power
        they will buy every last shred of niceness and ruin it eventually.
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        • brooks85
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-05-09
          • 44709

          #179
          gotta protect that badge, how else will big gov fund itself and control you?



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          • Buffalo Nickle
            SBR MVP
            • 11-12-14
            • 3228

            #180
            Originally posted by khicks26
            Well Texas is a little different, & you got to admit the people are insane. Not that its a bad thing. But I'm sure most of that has to do with oil & money. But yeah Texas should be allowed break from the Union if thats what the people want. Hell its big enough to be its own country. Problem is there is not enough room for all us to live there. lol Texas would do well on its own. That might just bring down the whole house of U.S. cards.
            I'm from Texas and I can tell you that Texans love the idea of independence and think they like small govt. But trust me, they like their small govt REAL big. This state gets huge amounts in farm subsidies, military subsidies and has a massive population on welfare, food stamps and social security. Take away the govt and this place would collapse.

            And oh yeah, all that wind energy is subsidized. Take away the subsidies and they shut down tomorrow.
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            • Dr.Gonzo
              SBR MVP
              • 12-05-09
              • 4660

              #181
              Originally posted by khicks26
              Never went to college, so i guess your smarter than me. Good for you. You seem like the type never left, even after graduation.

              Of course you only watched 10 mins, your to smart for that. A bit stuck up i would say.

              Don't play your college boy mind games with me. Your not that smart. You just spew a bunch a crap, and talk to hear yourself. I think that's called being a douche.

              You should not listen to me. Your to smart for that. You only know how to talk down to people. But if you would like to enlighten without getting to full of yourself i will listen to you.

              But Archie Bunker is still nobody to listen to.
              Antonio Gramsci's concepts on cultural hegemony, in particular, suggest that the culture and values of the economic elite – the bourgeoisie – become indoctrinated as ‘common sense’ to the working-class, allowing for the maintenance of the status quo through misplaced belief. Being himself one of the leaders of the Communist Party of Italy, (CPI), his theories had, in turn, been strongly influenced by the German social thinker Karl Marx, and have their ideological roots grounded in Marxist theory of false consciousness and capitalist exploitation. While Gramsci's views argue that culture (beliefs, perceptions and values) allows the ruling class to maintain domination, Marx's explanation is along more economic lines, with concepts such as commodity fetishism demonstrating how the ideology of the bourgeoisie (in this case, the existence of property as a social creation rather than an 'eternal entity') dominate over that of the working classes

              Do you understand the difference between Gramsci and Marx? I feel that you only wish to see things along economic lines but you need to accept that the new left emerged from the Frankfurt School and during the late 60's student revolution began a take over of the left, shifting the focus from economics to culture. That's why they call them cultural marxists.

              I repeatedly raise this point and you refuse to acknowledge it, it addresses your original question of who are the subversives.
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              • khicks26
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-16-06
                • 45704

                #182
                Because I see the Left & Right in government as the same. They do the same shit. If you look at GWB & Obama, there the same guy. Every fuking thing they do is for rich people.

                Half the country is below, at, or near the poverty line, and its getting worse. While the people at the top are getting richer. What else could it be but economics. The whole shit house is going to go up in flames.


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                • rkelly110
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 10-05-09
                  • 39691

                  #183
                  Wrong khicks. Obama put restraints on wall st. so we don't have another 2008. Guess who wants to remove those restraints?

                  Obama got us universal healthcare. I don't think GW or the Repubs did that.

                  I don't hear the Dems wanting to cut the poor's benefits. I don't hear the Dems adding amendments to bills to gut what Obama has done. IE: amendment for removing immigration ex order in the Homeland security funding, shutting down the govt to remove healthcare, etc.

                  Obama and the Dems want to tax the rich more, but who's stopping them? How about other ideas the Pres has?
                  Who's putting a wrench in the works? For 6 years he's been bashed, laughed at and thrown under the bus.
                  If he left a fart, the right would say it didn't stink enough or wasn't long enough or it made a funny noise.

                  The Repubs don't even hide who their masters are.
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                  • khicks26
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-16-06
                    • 45704

                    #184
                    OK maybe Obama is a little better. But it was Wall St that put him in office, & he let the banks get away with it. Not one of them went to jail, & there fines were a slap on the wrist compared to the money they made from the bailout. Remember they all got a bonus, & my 401k took a nose dive.

                    We need single payer healthcare. Universal Healthcare is a bailout for drug & insurance companies. Its working now & helping a lot of people, but its not sustainable. Remember were the bill came from, its Romney Care a REP idea.

                    Your right about REPs, they are a bunch of rat bastards. They have done nothing, but try and destroy Obama. They are for the rich & fuk the little guy all they can. Now they are owed by the bros Koch & ready to fuk the 99% in the ass as hard as they can.

                    But Obama continued GWB's war. Increased surveillance on the public. He has jailed any whistleblower he could. Let Bush & Cheney & the neo-cons get away with war crimes. Droned the hell out of the Middle East killing women & kids, creating more terrorist.

                    Now he trying to pass stuff to help the common people, knowing full well the PIG's in Congress won't let it happen. Were was this guy 6 years ago.

                    His final Fuk you to the American people is the TTP. The most disastrous trade bill ever. The final nail in the U.S. coffin, & he wants to fast track it. Maybe at one time there was Hope, but it turned out to be a bill of goods & a lie.
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                    • khicks26
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-16-06
                      • 45704

                      #185
                      Now, what do you own the world?
                      How do you own disorder, disorder
                      Now somewhere between the sacred silence, sacred silence and sleep
                      Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep
                      Disorder, disorder, disorder

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                      • brainfreeze
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 05-13-14
                        • 5690

                        #186
                        Obama sucks at president has a better shot at basketball
                        The list goes on...



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                        • scumbag
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-02-13
                          • 3504

                          #187
                          Originally posted by brainfreeze
                          Obama sucks at president has a better shot at basketball
                          The list goes on...



                          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gmTfKPx1Cug
                          figures a bible thumper would be a gullible simpleton incapable of independent thought.

                          you suck brainfreeze. step your game up if you're gonna be posting in this sub-forum.
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                          • scumbag
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-02-13
                            • 3504

                            #188
                            Originally posted by rkelly110
                            Wrong khicks. Obama put restraints on wall st. so we don't have another 2008. Guess who wants to remove those restraints?

                            Obama got us universal healthcare. I don't think GW or the Repubs did that.

                            I don't hear the Dems wanting to cut the poor's benefits. I don't hear the Dems adding amendments to bills to gut what Obama has done. IE: amendment for removing immigration ex order in the Homeland security funding, shutting down the govt to remove healthcare, etc.

                            Obama and the Dems want to tax the rich more, but who's stopping them? How about other ideas the Pres has?
                            Who's putting a wrench in the works? For 6 years he's been bashed, laughed at and thrown under the bus.
                            If he left a fart, the right would say it didn't stink enough or wasn't long enough or it made a funny noise.

                            The Repubs don't even hide who their masters are.

                            HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH??

                            dodd frank was absolute dogshit and did little to stop the next crash. and of course he didn't bring us universal health care.

                            obama sucks but not for the reasons moron right-wingers "believe". notice i said believe, because these droolers don't think they believe.
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                            • rkelly110
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 10-05-09
                              • 39691

                              #189
                              Enlighten me oh wise one.
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                              • scumbag
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-02-13
                                • 3504

                                #190
                                well, it's obvious. ACA isn't universal HC. and dodd-frank is largely toothless as evidenced by our system being as risky as ever.
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 65755

                                  #191
                                  Originally posted by scumbag
                                  well, it's obvious. ACA isn't universal HC. and dodd-frank is largely toothless as evidenced by our system being as risky as ever.
                                  I thought you were done with this place you lying sack of fukking shit.
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                                  • scumbag
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-02-13
                                    • 3504

                                    #192
                                    whoa, some half-wit hostile?

                                    this place does bore me and i've been busy lately. so i won't be around 'very' much.
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