Us spending millions because it wants more people on food stamps!!

[eyeball]

Despite the fact that food stamp usage has soared over the past few years, the federal government wants even more of us on the dole. So the USDA is spending millions of taxpayer dollars to advertise the program on the radio and television.

The department is spending between $2.5 million and $3 million on paid spots, and free public service announcements are also airing. The campaign can be heard in California, Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Ohio, and the New York metro area.
“Research has shown that many people — particularly underserved seniors, working poor, and legal immigrants — do not understand the requirements of the program,” said Kevin Concannon, a USDA under secretary.

This is the same agency that refuses to disclose what people are buying with taxpayer dollaRS

[frogsrangers]

Do you seriously have to ask?

Government wants more people on food stamps so they become dependent on government

That way politicians can demonize politicians who advocate to reduce/eliminate food stamps as "hating the poor"

Pro food stamp politicians get the votes

The more people on food stamps, the more votes they get

Once 50.1% of the people in this country are on the dole, is the day our country dies

The 50.1% will keep voting themselves more and more handouts, until the working class becomes too small and collapses

Then we have tyrannic government rule, where there are 2 classes of people: The elite bureaucrats in the government who still live lives of luxury and indulgence, and the peasant subjects who are on their hands and knees waiting for the scraps from the bureaucrats.

[jjgold]

Do you seriously have to ask?

Government wants more people on food stamps so they become dependent on government

That way politicians can demonize politicians who advocate to reduce/eliminate food stamps as "hating the poor"

Pro food stamp politicians get the votes

The more people on food stamps, the more votes they get

Once 50.1% of the people in this country are on the dole, is the day our country dies

The 50.1% will keep voting themselves more and more handouts, until the working class becomes too small and collapses

Then we have tyrannic government rule, where there are 2 classes of people: The elite bureaucrats in the government who still live lives of luxury and indulgence, and the peasant subjects who are on their hands and knees waiting for the scraps from the bureaucrats.

[PAULYPOKER]

Why don't you ask yourself where the majority of our $$$ is going,when this enlightened moment comes, you will wonder why you posted such a meaningless issue compared to the reality of the situation..........

[frogsrangers]

Its all a power grab

Its all about votes

Anyone in the federal government WANTS government to grow, that way they are ensured they keep their job and the gravy train flowing

Entitlements are permanent

Once enacted, they can never be repealed

Because any politician who wants to reform or repeal the entitlement is demonized and characterized as hating the poor/middle class/elderly/etc.

Freedom and democracy cease to exist once people who don't work can vote to take from those who do work

[frogsrangers]

Why don't you ask yourself where the majority of the $$$ is going,when this enlightened moment comes, you will wonder why you posted such a meaningless issue compared to the reality of the situation..........

The reality of the situation, like any entitlement program, is an attempt by the political elite to create a permanent poor underclass that will continue to vote for them in exchange for handouts

The reason democrats push for socialism/communism isn't because they think its best for this country or the people, but because they would benefit the most from it

Look at every socialist/communist country. Not everyone is equal. The most well off are the political elite bureaucracy. They still live lives of luxury, indulgence, while maintaining a facade that they "care about the poor".

Democrats in this country dream of being part of that permanent upper wealthy elite bureacracy class, where they get to live lives of luxury on the taxpayer's dime.

When questioned why they get to live lives of luxury while the rest of the normal citizens don't, they will simply say "Well we gave you free this and that and this and that and all other kinds of goodies so if it weren't for us you would be worse off"

[MC PICKS]

When obama took office 1 out of every 50 americans were on food stamps, today that number is 1 out of every 7.

[muldoon]

When obama took office 1 out of every 50 americans were on food stamps, today that number is 1 out of every 7.

I hope your alleged business doesn't require you to do basic math (instead of just use a stat like that which you obviously pulled from some freerepub type forum)

FYI - it was 1 in 50 in the 70's - not when Obama took office.

Hopefully my post wasn't too long for you to read.

If it was, I'll sum up. You're wrong - again.

[bettilimbroke999]

Free food bitches!

[marcojuiceman]

Now she is worth over a $100 million, I guess the economy wasnt so bad after all..

[Cougar Bait]

I hope your alleged business doesn't require you to do basic math (instead of just use a stat like that which you obviously pulled from some freerepub type forum)

FYI - it was 1 in 50 in the 70's - not when Obama took office.

Hopefully my post wasn't too long for you to read.

If it was, I'll sum up. You're wrong - again.

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So it went from 28.2 million to 46 million, that's still not very good math. A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse (bounty,gifts) out of the public treasury. From that moment they will always vote for the candidate promising the most benefits from the treasury with the result that democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship.

Hard to argue with Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler since when he wrote that we were still colonials of Great Britain and he was explaining what had destroyed the Athenian Republic some 2000 years earlier.

[muldoon]

So it went from 28.2 million to 46 million, that's still not very good math.

My point wasn't to say things are good. My point was to point out that expanded greatly even during times of low(ish) unemployment without the current POTUS. You know, facts type stuff that they hide in links that take longer than EmCee Picks has to apparently read.

[bettilimbroke999]

Hate to look at charts like that, it shows definitively what this nation is becoming, historians will look back on this period as the fall

[muldoon]

Hate to look at charts like that, it shows definitively what this nation is becoming, historians will look back on this period as the fall

If/when the nation falls, historians will look at a lot of things. How some wars were financed, others were borrowed. How banks were allowed to become runaway fractional too-big-to-fail trains. How things like inflation and unemployment numbers were gamed to hide true problems (we subsidize corn why??? we don't count someone as unemployed when they give up looking why???)

Empires rise and fall - some just last longer.

[PAULYPOKER]

[marcojuiceman]

All these Election Polls are just a waste and a Show for Blind sheeple...

Obamacare has been passed and you think a bunch of poor folks are about to allow there Free Healthcare go away.. No Way

Obama has won.. Tell those NeoCons to pick a better candidate next time

[bettilimbroke999]

All these Election Polls are just a waste and a Show for Blind sheeple...

Obamacare has been passed and you think a bunch of poor folks are about to allow there Free Healthcare go away.. No Way

Obama has won.. Tell those NeoCons to pick a better candidate next time

Doesnt matter...do u want a welfare nation dependent on govt to pay their bills (Obama) or do u want a nation where the elite triple their amount of assets in the next 10 years when they already hold 1/3 of the wealth (Romney)...either way average Joe is ******

[Shaudius]

What a meaningless chart without context. All that I read from it is that the US dollar is 25xs less valuable now than it was in 1900. In other words there has been 25x inflation over the last 100 years. That's wonderful, so what? The only way that a chart like this is meaningful is in the context of wages.

This would be like saying, zomg the price of a loaf of bread today is $2.50, 100 years ago it was 10 cents, look how dire straights we are in as a nation. In order to make an assessment of the financial situation of the US I would have to know how much the average worker was making, if the average worker was making 10 cents a day in 1900 and is now making 100.00 a day then I would say the situation of the average worker has improved, if on the other hand the average worker was only making 2.50 a day now when they were making 10 cents a day then, I would say the situation for the average worker is worse. Just showing me the value of the US dollar to purchase goods tells me nothing about the economic situation of people, or hell even the economy in general.

[ChalkyDog]

Has nothing to do with this thread really. Just an amazing statistic.

America spends more in defense than the next 26 countries combined. 25 of which are allies.

Neat-O-Fact of the day.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

What a meaningless

Any response to PaulyPoker should start with these three words.

[PAULYPOKER]

What a meaningless chart without context. All that I read from it is that the US dollar is 25xs less valuable now than it was in 1900. In other words there has been 25x inflation over the last 100 years. That's wonderful, so what? The only way that a chart like this is meaningful is in the context of wages.

This would be like saying, zomg the price of a loaf of bread today is $2.50, 100 years ago it was 10 cents, look how dire straights we are in as a nation. In order to make an assessment of the financial situation of the US I would have to know how much the average worker was making, if the average worker was making 10 cents a day in 1900 and is now making 100.00 a day then I would say the situation of the average worker has improved, if on the other hand the average worker was only making 2.50 a day now when they were making 10 cents a day then, I would say the situation for the average worker is worse. Just showing me the value of the US dollar to purchase goods tells me nothing about the economic situation of people, or hell even the economy in general.

<center style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">THE FEDERAL RESERVE FRAUD!

</center>TTTT first misconception that most people have is that the Federal Reserve Bank is a branch of the US government. IT IS NOT. THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IS A PRIVATE COMPANY. Most people believe it is as American as the Constitution. THE FACT IS THE CONSTITUTION FORBIDS IT'S EXISTENCE. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to create money and regulate the value thereof, NOT A BUNCH OF INTERNATIONAL BANKERS! Today the FED controls and profits by printing WORTHLESS PAPER, called money, through the Treasury, regulating its value, AND THE BIGGEST OUTRAGE OF ALL, COLLECTING INTEREST ON IT! (THE SO-CALLED NATIONAL DEBT). The FED began with approximately 300 people or banks that became owners, stockholders purchasing stock at $100 per share - the stock is not publicly traded) in the Federal Reserve Banking System. They make up an international banking cartel of wealth beyond comparison. The FED banking system collects billions of dollars in interest annually and distributes the profits to its shareholders. The Congress illegally gave the FED the right to print money through the Treasury at no interest to the FED.
The FED creates money from nothing, and loans it back to us through banks, and charges interest on our currency. The FED also buys Government debt with money printed on a printing press and charges U.S. taxpayers interest. Many Congressmen and Presidents say this is fraud. Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed: 1. Rothschild Bank of London 2. Warburg Bank of Hamburg 3. Rothschild Bank of Berlin 4. Lehman Brothers of New York 5. Lazard Brothers of Paris 6. Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York 7. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy 8. Goldman, Sachs of New York 9. Warburg Bank of Amsterdam 10. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York.
These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which ultimately control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War with America where our forefathers were fighting their own government, they planned to control us by controlling our banking system, the printing of our money, and our debt. The individuals listed below owned banks which in turn owned shares in the FED. The banks listed below have significant control over the New York FED District, which controls the other 11 FED Districts. These banks also are partly foreign owned and control the New York FED District Bank: First National Bank of New York, James Stillman National City Bank, New York, Mary W. Harnman, National Bank of Commerce, New York, A.D. Jiullard Hanover, National Bank, New York, Jacob Schiff, Chase National Bank, New York, Thomas F. Ryan, Paul Warburg, William Rockefeller, Levi P. Morton, M.T. Pyne, George F. Baker, Percy Pyne, Mrs. G.F. St. George, J.W. Sterling, Katherine St. George, H.P. Davidson, J.P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life), Edith Brevour, T. Baker.
How did it happen? After previous attempts to push the Federal Reserve Act through Congress, a group of bankers funded and staffed Woodrow Wilson's campaign for President. He had committed to sign this act. In 1913, a Senator, Nelson Aldrich, maternal grandfather to the Rockefellers, pushed the Federal Reserve Act through Congress just before Christmas when much of Congress was on vacation. When elected, Wilson passed the FED. Later, Wilson remorsefully replied, referring to the FED, "I have unwittingly ruined my country". Now the banks financially back sympathetic candidates. Not surprisingly, most of these candidates are elected.
<center style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">
</center>The bankers employ members of the Congress on weekends (nickname T&T club -out Thursday...in Tuesday with lucrative salaries. Additionally, the FED started buying up the media in the 1930's and now owns or significantly influences most of it. Presidents Lincoln, Jackson, and Kennedy tried to stop this family of bankers by printing U.S. dollars without charging the taxpayers interest.
Today, if the government runs a deficit, the FED prints dollars through the U.S. Treasury, buys the debt, and the dollars are circulated into the economy. In 1992, taxpayers paid the FED banking system $286 billion in interest on debt the FED purchased by printing money virtually cost free. Forty percent of our personal federal income taxes goes to pay this interest. The FED's books are not open to the public. Congress has yet to audit it. Congressman Wright Patman was Chairman of the House of Representatives Committee on Banking and Currency for 40 years. For 20 of those years, he introduced legislation to repeal the Federal Reserve Banking Act of 1913.
Congressman Henry Gonzales, Chairman of a banking committee, introduced legislation to repeal the Federal Reserve Banking Act of 1913 almost every year. It's always defeated, the media remains silent, and the public never learns the truth. The same bankers who own the FED control the media and give huge political contributions to sympathetic members of Congress.
THE FED FEARS THE POPULATION WILL BECOME AWARE OF THIS FRAUD AND DEMAND CHANGE. We, the People, are at fault for being passive and allowing this to continue. THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD, A GOVERNMENT BOARD, HAS CHEATED THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OUT OF ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THE NATIONAL DEBT SEVERAL TIMES OVER. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks acting together have cost this country dearly.
They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; the rich and predatory money lenders. This is an era of economic misery and for the reasons that caused that misery, the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks are fully liable. Half a million dollars was spent on one part of propaganda organized by those same European bankers for the purpose of misleading public opinion in regard to the Federal Reserve Bank.
<center style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">
</center><center style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">WHAT MONEY LOOKED LIKE WHEN IT WAS STILL BACKED BY SOMETHING
</center>Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has USURPED THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. IT CONTROLS EVERYTHING HERE AND IT CONTROLS ALL OUR FOREIGN RELATIONS. IT MAKES AND BREAKS GOVERNMENTS AT WILL. No man and no body of men is more entrenched in power than the arrogant credit monopoly which operates the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks. These evil-doers have robbed this country. What the Government has permitted the Federal Reserve Board to steal from the people should now be restored to the people.
Our people's money to the extent of $1,200,000,000 has within the last few months been shipped abroad to redeem Federal Reserve Notes and to pay other gambling debts of the traitorous Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks. The greater part of our monetary stock has been shipped to foreigners. Why should we promise to pay the debts of foreigners to foreigners? Why should American Farmers and wage earners add millions of foreigners to the number of their dependents? Why should the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks be permitted to finance our competitors in all parts of the world? The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed and the Federal Reserve banks, having violated their charters, should be liquidated immediately. FAITHLESS GOVERNMENT OFFICERS WHO HAVE VIOLATED THEIR OATHS SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND BROUGHT TO TRIAL.
If the media is unbiased, independent and completely thorough, why haven't they discussed the FED? Currently, half the states have at least a grass roots movement in action to abolish the FED, but there's no press coverage. In July, 1968, the House Banking Subcommittee reported that Rockefeller, through Chase Manhattan Bank, controlled 5.9% of the stock in CBS. Furthermore, the bank had gained interlocking directorates with ABC.
<center style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">
</center>In 1974, Congress issued a report stating that the Chase Manhattan Bank's stake in CBS rose to 14.1% and NBC to 4.5%. The same report said that the Chase Manhattan Bank held stock in 28 broadcasting firms. After this report, the Chase Manhattan Bank obtained 6.7% of ABC, and today the percentage is most likely much greater. It only requires 5% ownership to significantly influence the media . This is only one of 300 wealthy shareholders of the FED. It is believed other FED owners have similar holdings in the media. To control the media, FED bankers call in their loans if the media disagrees with them.
Rockefeller also controls the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the sole purpose of which is to aid in stimulating greater interest in foreign affairs and a one world government. Nearly every major newscaster belongs to the Council on Foreign Relations. The Council on Foreign Relations controls many major newspapers and magazines. Additionally, major corporations owned by FED shareholders are the source of huge advertising revenues which surely would influence the media.
Every day I hear people complaining about what they don't like about our government and media, but not one of them are willing to put forth an effort to try and change it, especially when it comes to their personal lives. We are as much a slave on a personal level, as our government is to the international bankers. We keep right on using the tool they put out here to control us, ************, and we are imprisoned by it. We are no longer willing to save up to buy something, we have to have it right now, so the Government has made it easy to have what you want without the having to save for it, (CREDIT).
Don't you think it funny that in a land with so much wealth, only 2 PERCENT of the people own their homes? (CREDIT). Do you know 60 PERCENT of Americans have at least 3 ************ used to it's maximum? (CREDIT). Do you know that only 1 PERCENT of the people have their car paid for? (CREDIT). To be free, you must throw away your ************, and NEVER buy anything that you cannot afford at the moment of purchase. We will never be a free people until we rid ourselves of the burden placed here to control us, and when we stop renting from the powers, the power will cease to exist.

[frogsrangers]

I agree with PAULYPOKER the federal reserve plays a huge role if not the biggest role in the economic problems this country is facing

Not only should it be audited, it should also be abolished and its bureaucrats/administrators should be thrown in jail

[QuantumLeap]

I hope your alleged business doesn't require you to do basic math (instead of just use a stat like that which you obviously pulled from some freerepub type forum)

FYI - it was 1 in 50 in the 70's - not when Obama took office.

Hopefully my post wasn't too long for you to read.

If it was, I'll sum up. You're wrong - again.

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Looks like people really are getting their Obama money.

[bettilimbroke999]

God Bless America land of the free food

Most Americans are so fat they could starve for 3 months and benefit

[Shaudius]

The Federal Reserve board of governors is majority controlled by persons appointed by the US Congress, to call it a private bank is to misunderstand the process by it is run.

Other than that there are so many wrong statements in the article that Pauly posted as to not even be worth responding to.

[PAULYPOKER]

The Federal Reserve board of governors is majority controlled by persons appointed by the US Congress, to call it a private bank is to misunderstand the process by it is run.

Other than that there are so many wrong statements in the article that Pauly posted as to not even be worth responding to.

Are you a politician?

[frogsrangers]

Wow someone who supports the federal reserve

I have seen it all now

[PAULYPOKER]

“Communism is not [and never was] a creation of the masses to overthrow the Banking establishment, but rather a creation of the Banking establishment to overthrow and enslave the people.”
—Anthony J. Hilder

[Shaudius]

Wow someone who supports the federal reserve

I have seen it all now

Where did I say that I supported the Fed, my only statement was that Pauly's entire post was full of unsourced information, conspiracy theories, and flat out wrong analysis.

[PAULYPOKER]

[PAULYPOKER]

Are you a politician?

Where did I say that I supported the Fed, my only statement was that Pauly's entire post was full of unsourced information, conspiracy theories, and flat out wrong analysis.

Simple question?

Why evade?

[Shaudius]

Simple question?

Why evade?

Do you really want me to go line by line into your drivel?

[PAULYPOKER]

Do you really want me to go line by line into your drivel?

No further questions your honor................

[Shaudius]

No further questions your honor................

Fine, it will take me a little bit of time, if you want I can post it in segments.

[rkelly110]

You are a piece of work Paul. You made a thread for which you wanted Shaud to answer questions for you.
He took the time to honestly answer each and every question (most you didn't agree with) and you now
bust on him.

We (the forum) as a whole, could give two shits about what you post. (conspiracy theories) You do have
a couple of kool aide drinkers that agree with you, maybe PM them and leave us alone?