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  • ShamsWoof10
    SBR MVP
    • 11-15-06
    • 4827

    #1
    Hey "SPORTY" this is a real sports journalist...
    Hey "Nancy" since I think cheerleading is a sport you should try out for the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders and report back to us with some photos and inside news...



    At the age of 43, sportswriter Stefan Fatsis decided to tryout as a kicker for the Denver Broncos. What resulted was "A Few Seconds of Panic" his record of spending the preseason with the team. Fatsis, who also has written a book on competitive Scrabble, was not an embedded reporter but a player going through every drill and every meeting. By doing that, he got Denver players to give him brutally honest evaluations of themselves, management and life in the NFL. It is by turns hilarious and incredibly sad journal of one man's journey through the NFL. Fatsis spoke to USA TODAY's Reid Cherner about the different football personalities, the heartbreak of the game and the joys of getting a shoe contract.

    Do you now look at the NFL differently?

    It is hard for me to watch football as a fan now because I understand better what the players are thinking. And it’s not so much what they are thinking during the game because when they are on, they are on. They love Sunday. They love playing, they love putting on the pads, they love running onto the field. It is a simultaneously terrifying and exhilarating experience for them. Terrifying because they understand the bargain they made to play. 'If I make the team I’m going to get paid pretty well but there is a constant threat of permanent injury.' The exhilarating part is there is nothing like playing the game. They love the competition, some of them love the hitting, but when they get on the field they try to turn the fear switch off and turn the competitive switch on.

    How do you look at kickers now?

    I’ll never criticize a kicker again. ShamsWoof is the best I've ever seen. The kickers are, and I’m a kicker so I can say this, the most under appreciated players on the football field. They don’t put their bodies on the line in the same way but psychologically the pressure that they endure is greater I think than what most of the players feel when they play. Kicking is the one time when a football game completely stops and everyone’s attention turns to one guy. It is the most deterministic job in football. I kick the ball and it is either good or it is bad. And if it’s bad than I am a loser and if it’s good than I successful. You’ve done what you are expected to do. Everyone thinks they can kick a football. There is a reason that guys play a long time and it’s not because it’s physically demanding. It is the most psychological demanding thing I’ve ever attempted in my life.

    Did you worry at all that readers would not be interested in your life?

    I’ll answer this the way I answered it when I wrote about Scrabble. I think people gravitate toward personal stories. I felt that by trying to do this, I think fans wonder about what it’s like trying to do something. The more important part for me was the only way to really get at something as closeted, as protective as the NFL, is try to become a part of it. Embed yourself in a subculture to really understand what it is really like. If I had tried to do this as just a reporter, I would have been viewed as just another reporter. Just another guy with a tape recorder and a notebook. I don’t think I could have ever earned the trust that I got from the players.

    Were you surprised that players were so open?

    I was confident it would happen. Surprised me how quickly it would happen. I think the players appreciated the fact that I was willing to put on the pads, go out there everyday, lift weights, run go to meetings and make a fool of myself. Here I was a 43-year-old guy who was graying hair, who was 5-foot-8 and was a kicker. On the one hand I opened up myself to the ridicule to every other player on the team but at the same time they respected the fact that I was willing to play. That I showed up everyday and that I abided by the rules. And when they saw that I was serious at trying to be decent at this and that I was a good guy I think they opened up to me. That is what any writer wants. You want to gain the trust of the people you are writing about. I think it also helped that I wasn’t a beat reporter. I never covered an NFL team. I covered the business of the sport for years?

    Were you surprised when they didn’t open up?

    No. Not really. There are 90 guys in an NFL Training camp. And a lot of guys were not willing to set aside their suspicions of the media and they usual way that players deal with the media. Players are trained to talk certain ways to reporters. Pretty quickly they saw me as one of them.

    You wear a size 7 shoes. Did you think about lying about that?

    Absolutely not. I am proud of my little feet. Even though they couldn’t find me shoes. Reebok did come through. They did find me shoes when I got my shoe deal. There have been smaller footed kickers in the NFL.

    What about the shoe contract?

    Everybody else in the locker room had one, why shouldn’t I? I did it as goof and I did it because I really wanted to know what it was like. Part of every player’s life is at some point getting a deal with one of the shoe companies and I felt why shouldn’t I get a deal too. The one thing I learned was no matter how low on the totem pole you are you can get $3,000 worth of free merchandise. From Nike or Reebok by just making the team.

    Did you try to leverage your deal?

    I was just happy that someone was offering me free shoes.

    There was a passage when Tyler Frederickson is giving thanks and then seems to compare Mike Shanahan to God. Did you find that humorous?

    I meant it to be funny and very deliberate. When you are an undrafted free agent trying to make a football team there is one guy that matters. There is one God in your life during training camp and that is the head coach.

    There is also a passage with Ian Gold talking about how mercenary the game is. It was a dark outlook. Surprised by his honesty?

    It was a surprise. Surprise to me that there was as much dissatisfaction of the day to day reality of the NFL as I encountered…..I was surprised by the level of introspection from the players. That they had given this as much thought as they had. That they didn’t just accept that ‘hey this is what I do for a living.’ There was a real negotiation going on in the minds of the players. Is this worth It? How can I maintain my dignity and continue to do this as a living? In the NFL those checks don’t just keep coming. When a player like Ian opened up to me like that it really framed for me just how conflicted playing in the NFL is for the more thoughtful players. As a writer when he said it I thought ‘damn that is some serious candor.’ I was grateful for his candor. That is really what I was going after. That they would share with me their inner most thoughts.

    Your coach to get you ready for training camp was a guy named Paul Woodside. He comes off as the hero of the book. Agree?

    He is a tremendous human being and a great coach. He figured this out after the fact. He should have been in the NFL. By everyone’s description this is a guy who had a tremendous leg, was self-taught. He is still one of the great kickers (at West Virginia). He was a hero to me because he saw me as himself given a second chance. He didn’t think it was a joke that this 40-plus-year-old guy was going to try to play in the NFL for a summer. He took me so seriously. He wanted me to capitalize on that opportunity that he never had. That personally meant so much to me. He becomes for me the stand in for every wanna be football player. Everybody who got so close to their dream but was thwarted. The most genuine guy I’ve ever met.

    He was 180 degrees away from the mercenary outlook of the Broncos camp. Was he not?

    It became a set up for me. I spend all these months with this rah, rah, sincere determined driven motivating force for good. A clean cut guy who believes so passionately about kicking of all things. Then you get there and the reality is even a greater contrast. Here I am like Huck Finn trying to become a place kicker and I go and get to Broncos camp and its like the Sopranos.

    How do you think Broncos coach Mike Shanahan comes off?

    I think he comes out fairly. I don’t think he would deny that his approach to managing this business, of being a CEO of an NFL team, is pretty clinical. He has been at it so long and so conditioned by his experiences that I think its hard for him to change. I think he views the creation and management of an NFL team as a business exercise.

    Which includes scheduling fun?

    Which is amazing. He is damn good at it. What I think athletes want more than anything is compassion and better communication. Those are the things that players thought were lacking. It is hard to view the players as a number because so many cross your path in football. Well over 100 guys per season. He is so driven, so focused and so smart about winning football games that it doesn’t often leave a lot else.

    Shanahan would be the last guy I thought would allow this to happen. Isn't he?

    He was the last coach that I thought other than Tom Coughlin. Literally tried 20 other teams before I tried Pat Bowlen. He is a great guy but I didn’t call him because I thought there is no way Mike Shanahan lets this happen. But as I write in the book, Mike was impressed that I wanted to play and I think Mike understood that in allowing me in the locker room that not everything I would hear would not necessarily be favorable about him, the organization and the NFL. But both he and Pat were secure enough that ran an organization that is raved about by players ever with all the criticism that players have about playing football. They were secure enough about letting somebody in would reflect well on the organization. And I think it did. I am eternally grateful to them for letting me do it.

    Are you happy with the book?

    I am completely thrilled with my experience and the book. Proud of the fact that these athletes opened up to me. I am proud that I had the guts to put on a uniform and go out there and play everyday. Proud of the fact that I could kick a 40-yard field goal. I thought I would kick a 50, I really did. Really believed I would get there. There is only so much you can do with a 5-8, 170-pound 43-year-old body. I truly believe that to really understand something is to do it. I think readers respond to that. I think they want to live vicariously. To be able to do that is thrilling whether it is scrabble or football.

  • Robyn
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-05-08
    • 9681

    #2
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    • tacomax
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-10-05
      • 9619

      #3
      Someone should show ShamsWoof10 what an intelligent poster is.
      Originally posted by pags11
      SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
      Originally posted by BuddyBear
      I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
      Originally posted by curious
      taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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      • Panic
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-06-08
        • 10367

        #4
        Gotta love Shams. He has no substance but thinks he makes a difference. It's really fun to watch.
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        • SBR Lou
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-02-07
          • 37863

          #5
          Shams was the only man on the boards who was able to stump Nancy with a Steelers Trivia question about Tunch Ilkin. He's got some sports IQ in that noggin of his, and is locally regarded throughout Ohio as an expert on field goal kicking.
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          • Robyn
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-05-08
            • 9681

            #6
            And that is relevant to this thread how?
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            • AgainstAllOdds
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 02-24-08
              • 6053

              #7
              Yea! MORE BASHING! keep it coming!
              Originally posted by SBR_John
              AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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              • ShamsWoof10
                SBR MVP
                • 11-15-06
                • 4827

                #8
                Originally posted by Panic
                Gotta love Shams. He has no substance but thinks he makes a difference. It's really fun to watch.
                You talking about substance is like "Ray Charles" talking about sight seeing...

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                • Panic
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-06-08
                  • 10367

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                  You talking about substance is like "Ray Charles" talking about sight seeing...


                  There you are. Its about time. You're so clever, shall we continue?
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                  • MonkeyF0cker
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 06-12-07
                    • 12144

                    #10
                    Clever how he added his own editorial comment into the article himself. Only a man of great character, distinction, and humility would attempt to gain positive notoriety in such a blatant and feeble manner. Leave it to Shams to tarnish a perfectly legitimate article...
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                    • Panic
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-06-08
                      • 10367

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                      Clever how he added his own editorial comment into the article himself. Only a man of great character, distinction, and humility would attempt to gain positive notoriety in such a blatant and feeble manner...

                      The guy is an Icon. Its amazing.
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                      • ShamsWoof10
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-15-06
                        • 4827

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Panic
                        The guy is an Icon. Its amazing.
                        NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!!!

                        BOW DOWN MOTHER F*CKER BOW DOWN TO ME!!!

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                        • Panic
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-06-08
                          • 10367

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                          NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!!!

                          BOW DOWN MOTHER F*CKER BOW DOWN TO ME!!!


                          I have to. If I were to hit you, I would go to jail. Its against the law for me to hit women.
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                          • ShamsWoof10
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-15-06
                            • 4827

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Panic
                            I have to. If I were to hit you, I would go to jail. Its against the law for me to hit women.
                            Geeez what the f*ck kind of comeback is that...? You little kids don't have very good comebacks do you.?

                            Well I'm out I've wasted enough time with you kids...

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                            • Panic
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-06-08
                              • 10367

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                              Geeez what the f*ck kind of comeback is that...? You little kids don't have very good comebacks do you.?

                              Well I'm out I've wasted enough time with you kids...

                              Runaway, sunshine. I just got here and you're leaving. Who didnt know that? Have a nice night.
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                              • pico
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                                • 04-05-07
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                                #16
                                woof
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                                • tacomax
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 9619

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CrazyL
                                  He's got some sports IQ
                                  I've seen no evidence of any IQ at all. Here's some classic Shams-shit:

                                  Originally posted by pags11
                                  SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                  Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                  I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                  Originally posted by curious
                                  taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                  • Panic
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-06-08
                                    • 10367

                                    #18
                                    Shams is awesome, but when you poke at him, he gets upset. Its funny to watch. Stick around.
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                                    • pico
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 04-05-07
                                      • 27321

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by tacomax
                                      I've seen no evidence of any IQ at all. Here's some classic Shams-shit:

                                      http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...tml#post413287
                                      digging up my old thread, i see.

                                      i should add cat urine to that list
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                                      • MonkeyF0cker
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 06-12-07
                                        • 12144

                                        #20
                                        So you only came here to implicate your feigned superiority by inserting your own words into the hard working efforts of a legitimate kicker and writer? How gracious of you. Please come back quickly, Shams. We NEED you!
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                                        • Panic
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-06-08
                                          • 10367

                                          #21
                                          Shams is the biggest smoke and mirror poster here. It is funny as hell to watch. He has nothing to offer and when poked, tries to act like he is smart. Just watch, he will reply.....
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                                          • SBR Lou
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                                            • 08-02-07
                                            • 37863

                                            #22
                                            I don't like it when my buds fight. I've always considered ShamsWoof a friend, never had any problems with him and consider him a stand up dude. Panic I think you have more in common with him than you realize.
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                                            • tacomax
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 9619

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by CrazyL
                                              Panic I think you have more in common with him than you realize.
                                              Panic - that's fighting talk.
                                              Originally posted by pags11
                                              SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                              Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                              I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                              Originally posted by curious
                                              taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                              • Panic
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-06-08
                                                • 10367

                                                #24
                                                I will give Crazyl the benefit of the doubt. How am I close to Shams? If so I am in.
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                                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 06-12-07
                                                  • 12144

                                                  #25
                                                  What an insult!
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                                                  • Panic
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-06-08
                                                    • 10367

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                    What an insult!
                                                    Please explain, Monkey.
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                                                    • SBR Lou
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 08-02-07
                                                      • 37863

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Panic
                                                      I will give Crazyl the benefit of the doubt. How am I close to Shams? If so I am in.
                                                      Well as much as you love drinking, he loves to smoke. So you could drink while he smokes, and he's also a diehard gambler that has a wager going 365 days a year. Pretty sharp dude, the kind of one you'd go to a strip club with but also exchange gambling tips with.
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                                                      • daggerkobe
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-25-08
                                                        • 10744

                                                        #28
                                                        What a sham.

                                                        The cat is weirder than Peewee Herman.
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                                                        • MonkeyF0cker
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 06-12-07
                                                          • 12144

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Panic
                                                          Please explain, Monkey.
                                                          I meant Crazy's likening of you to Shams is a huge insult to you... A few posts happened to fall in between.
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                                                          • Panic
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-06-08
                                                            • 10367

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by CrazyL
                                                            Well as much as you love drinking, he loves to smoke. So you could drink while he smokes, and he's also a diehard gambler that has a wager going 365 days a year. Pretty sharp dude, the kind of one you'd go to a strip club with but also exchange gambling tips with.

                                                            Fvck me. He may be my better half. Where is he? He disappeared when things were getting good?
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                                                            • Panic
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-06-08
                                                              • 10367

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                              I meant Crazy's likening of you to Shams is a huge insult to you... A few posts happened to fall in between.

                                                              I'm with ya, Monkey. I know. I'm waiting for Shams to show up, but....I have a feeling I know who it is.
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                                                              • MonkeyF0cker
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 06-12-07
                                                                • 12144

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by CrazyL
                                                                Well as much as you love drinking, he loves to smoke. So you could drink while he smokes, and he's also a diehard gambler that has a wager going 365 days a year. Pretty sharp dude, the kind of one you'd go to a strip club with but also exchange gambling tips with.
                                                                Haha. Shams is as sharp as a doorknob. That's quite funny, Crazy...
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                                                                • Teela
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-19-08
                                                                  • 2551

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Panic
                                                                  Fvck me. He may be my better half. Where is he? He disappeared when things were getting good?
                                                                  Panic, is this who has taken my place?
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                                                                  • Panic
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-06-08
                                                                    • 10367

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Teela
                                                                    Panic, is this who has taken my place?

                                                                    Stick around, my sweet. This is gonna be fun.

                                                                    (and no, there has not been a person born that can take the place of you in my heart)...Tru dat.
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                                                                    • pico
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 04-05-07
                                                                      • 27321

                                                                      #35
                                                                      woof woof. where is the guy
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