Manning will be a disaster with the broncos

[Ghenghis Kahn]

can't get worse than teblow

[k13]

can't get worse than teblow

Yes it can.

Not making the Playoffs and/or not winning a playoff game.

[seaborneq]

All you guys so confident in Manning how about an O/U on total wins for Denver?



12.5, 13.5 ???

Give me a grand on the under please.

[Mr Handicapable]

I knew these cowards would show up with 10.5

Then who cares about Manning. He might win the crappy division, one playoff game if he's lucky then lose the next.

No better than Tebow and way less exciting.

Yeah 7-3 finals with 2 completed passes on the day....thrill a minute stuff alright! Better question....Over/Under wins for a Tebow Denver vs the 2nd hardest schedule in the NFL. I say 6.5! How many miracles did Tebow conjure up just to go 8-8? Miracles that didn't involve his play WHATSOVER like Barber fumbles, Sanchez pick 6s, etc.

Bottom line...Kurt Warner got Arizona within a minute or so of a SB win and threw 83 tds from age 36-38. Favre was better than that at age 40 and both those guys got beat like pinatas for alot of their career unlike Manning. I read where a doctor said his neck is stronger after the fusions then it was before so he should be ok...40+ players have came back from the same surgery and alot of them hit every play. Denver has a shot but prob not this year. Tebow will be a funny story by 2013...either fullback or another Sarah Palin getting paid to represent and speak for idiots.

[thetrinity]

agree, think this is gona be a disaster, colts made the right move IMO. on the other hand, i dont blame denver for trying either.

[Mr Handicapable]

I'm not sure why Peyton never considered KC? They have more weapons on both sides of the ball when healthy and just as much cap space as Denver if not more. Romeo Crennel is a monster with defense and Peyton with Jamal Charles, Peyton Hillis, Dwayne Bowe, Steve Breaston, and maybe Dallas Clark is a no-brainer cakewalk in the AFC West.

[k13]

Yeah 7-3 finals with 2 completed passes on the day....thrill a minute stuff alright! Better question....Over/Under wins for a Tebow Denver vs the 2nd hardest schedule in the NFL. I say 6.5! How many miracles did Tebow conjure up just to go 8-8? Miracles that didn't involve his play WHATSOVER like Barber fumbles, Sanchez pick 6s, etc.

Bottom line...Kurt Warner got Arizona within a minute or so of a SB win and threw 83 tds from age 36-38. Favre was better than that at age 40 and both those guys got beat like pinatas for alot of their career unlike Manning. I read where a doctor said his neck is stronger after the fusions then it was before so he should be ok...40+ players have came back from the same surgery and alot of them hit every play. Denver has a shot but prob not this year. Tebow will be a funny story by 2013...either fullback or another Sarah Palin getting paid to represent and speak for idiots.

O/U for Denver with Tebow and tough schedule was 7.5 on 5dimes

Interested to see what it will be with Manning. I assume 10.5 or 9.5

[Monte]

How can you argue he is not better than Tebow, take your pills..
Broncos been a strong team without a QB, they made it even with Teblow...

[Sam Odom]

O/U for Denver with Tebow and tough schedule was 7.5 on 5dimes

Interested to see what it will be with Manning. I assume 10.5 or 9.5

9.5

[k13]

9.5

So manning is only worth 2 wins better than Tebow?


Someone put up a 11.5 so I can hammer it.

[rm18]

Allstar because of his name. Fan Voting.

Wrong he was not a starter fans voted Iverson and McGrady over MJ

[rm18]

41% is great? Any scrub in the NBA can do that.
19% from the 3pt line........

Jordan shot a decent % for a volume shooter about what Kobe is this year and had a good floor game, he was about the 15th best player in the league about as good as Paul Pierce in his prime and he is a hall of famer according to most.

[k13]

Highest TD percentage in red zone
By QB, last 2 seasons*

Broncos Tim Tebow 28.6
Jaguars David Garrard 27.2
Colts Peyton Manning 25.7
Packers Aaron Rodgers 25.7
Patriots Tom Brady 24.6


I think this is part of the field where he excels at just has trouble getting to....

[frostno98]

The worst thing that can happen is Manning gets injured, that's it. If he doesn't, he'll be throwing the rock like the old Manning, and make average recievers look great. Denver fits him, because they will cater to the run and not force to pass over 50 times like the old days. He will do what Elway did with Davis, with teams having to respect the pass.

In Tebow case, nobody respect the pass. 10 completions a game will not get you far, especially after what teams seen what he can do last year.

[paranoyd androyd]

if he can stay healthy all year, 8 to 10 wins. if not, 4 to 6.

[rm18]

Manning will probably play good and Thomas will get like 1900 yards but their secondary will get torched and their schedule looks hard.

[Big Bear]

Who knows hw they will be. I give them a decent shot at making the playoffs.

no one knows how Manning will hold up when he has 350 pound guys slaming him to the turf and going for his neck.

[slacker00]

Elway mentors Peyton to be a game manager with 200 yards and 1 TD per game. They already got the run & D.

[Mr Handicapable]

Peyton Manning's offenses avg. 26 ppg during his career

John Fox's teams are 39-3 when his team scores 26 or more

It just might work out if they draft well and use the rest of their cap space wisely. I'm thinking 10-6 or maybe 11-5 if Manning can stay healthy. They prob won't get a bye but I think Arizona went 9-7 when Warner got them into the SB.

[wtt0315]

i will take this risk anyday

[seaborneq]

I can't see broncos making the playoffs with manning managing the game and the bullseye on their back with a tough schedule.

[cockblocker]

Allstar because of his name. Fan Voting.

[PR9]

Denver's defense is one of the worst in the league. They benefited last year by playing some awful, AWFUL teams. Teams that either lost their starting QB or had rookies.

Anytime they played a team with a pulse, the defense got ran off the field. GB, Detroit, Minny, NE x 2, Buffalo all housed that defense. The year before they were one of the worst. This year their shit smell was covered up by bad teams.

miami;s defense is kinda the same . look great against 3rd string qb's and crap offenses to pump their stats. And against crap QB's like Sanchez they can look good. Then against a real offense and real QB they get torched

Miami's D has been ranked in the Top 8 the last 2 years but to me its more middle of the pack

[jjgold]

Jordan looked sharp at 40 years old
He would of won more titles if he went to a good team

[Smoke]

Broncos are serious contenders now

[seaborneq]

Broncos are serious contenders now

Who is going to let noodle arm beat them to advance to the super bowl? If Denver thinks they have enough, they are sadly mistaken.

[geebert74]

Only time will tell brah.

[k13]

Broncos are serious contenders now

[frostno98]

Broncos will clinch the AFC west and a 1st round bye. The went 8-8 with Tim Tebow for goodness sake. Many of the comeback wins orchestrated by Tebow would of been blowouts if Manning was chucking the rock in those same games. If Timmy boy can lead Denver to 8 wins, Manning is definitely going to get them 11-12 wins next year.

[slacker00]

Brutal schedule for the Broncos next year, probably be lucky to get to 9-7 or 10-6.

[durito]

denver running game was horrible when they were trying to be a passing team the last few years. only when they switched to the tebow offense did the run game get going. that is gone now.

i think they will be pretty good if manning stays healthy but probably not till 2013.

[durito]

Broncos will clinch the AFC west and a 1st round bye. The went 8-8 with Tim Tebow for goodness sake. Many of the comeback wins orchestrated by Tebow would of been blowouts if Manning was chucking the rock in those same games. If Timmy boy can lead Denver to 8 wins, Manning is definitely going to get them 11-12 wins next year.

But how many did we deserve last year? We were a few lucky plays away from 5-11. With that schedule and everyone having to learn a new offense/qb, I wouldn't expect much more than 8-8 or 9-7. 2013 though should be better.

[stevenash]

pro bowl is in january

I think he meant playing golf

[wtt0315]

yep mvp

I see a willie mays in the outfield looking for the ball and falling type scenario. Or pat summit, not know what day it is scenario. michael jordan coming back as a wizard bad. Basically all bad and no good can come from this. But I could be wrong.

[wtt0315]

sharp lou
how about december

Reads like one of those threads that will be bumped next February. Or, if you're right, sometime in Jan