Ganchrow Now Works at Heritage

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  • Highness
    SBR Hustler
    • 02-17-12
    • 50

    #71
    wow this wantitall4moi guy REALLY wants everyone to believe his story with the lengths he's going to tell it. always the sign of being full of it
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    • jgilmartin
      SBR MVP
      • 03-31-09
      • 1119

      #72
      Originally posted by LT Profits
      Can either of you guys show me ONE post mentioning this in the past? I couldn't find one word of it here.
      Can't remember exactly which thread but I believe there was a HTT thread where somebody was talking about Ganch working for Heritage.
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      • HoulihansTX
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 02-12-09
        • 30566

        #73
        This was news to some of us.
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        • rfr3sh
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 11-07-09
          • 10229

          #74


          go to around 2:22
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          • Scooter
            SBR MVP
            • 01-15-07
            • 1159

            #75
            wantitall4moi - "I made enough money gambling to never have to work again. I basically quit altogether in 08 when I got married."

            Joined: 04-17-10
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            wantitall4moi - "I was old school ALWAYS post up. no credit. Not that I couldnt get credit had it extended more than a few times, but I liked it the way I did it."


            "I also never took any roll over bonuses or any of that nonsense."

            "But back then you still only needed 5 outs to get the best numbers 99% of the time."




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            • calamity
              Restricted User
              • 02-29-12
              • 4

              #76
              never heard of him.
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              • shari91
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 02-23-10
                • 32661

                #77
                Originally posted by LT Profits



                Can either of you guys show me ONE post mentioning this in the past? I couldn't find one word of it here.
                There are a few posts mentioning it in this thread. http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...change-p4.html

                Also I've seen it elsewhere but this was the first one that came to mind.

                ETA - Freshy posted the vid I was thinking of. Ty!
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                • Ace_of_Spades
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-14-09
                  • 13518

                  #78
                  Originally posted by flyingillini
                  This is very old news, Ganchrow has been with Heritage, this is no news at all.. Maybe to the newbies of SBR that probably have no clue who he is in the first place. May Jesus Christ Bless Ganch and his statistics!
                  Yeah cos a Jew like yourself knows everything and everyone in the business. Your shitt is getting old clown.
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #79
                    Originally posted by rfr3sh


                    go to around 2:22
                    Originally posted by shari91

                    There are a few posts mentioning it in this thread. http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...change-p4.html

                    Also I've seen it elsewhere but this was the first one that came to mind.

                    ETA - Freshy posted the vid I was thinking of. Ty!
                    Thank you Guy & Gal. I had never watched the video nor had I delved that deep into that thread thinking it was all about the exchange, ergo my ignorance on the matter. (Well, until a couple of days ago).
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                    • shari91
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 02-23-10
                      • 32661

                      #80
                      Originally posted by LT Profits



                      Thank you Guy & Gal. I had never watched the video nor had I delved that deep into that thread thinking it was all about the exchange, ergo my ignorance on the matter. (Well, until a couple of days ago).
                      For every person who knew, I'm sure there were many more who didn't so this was still a great heads up considering they're now here at SBR. Even if they weren't, it's always nice to have a Ganchrow thread. Hopefully he pops back on here soon to say hi.
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                      • The Kraken
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 12-25-11
                        • 28918

                        #81
                        This is the irony to sportsbetting.

                        I'm nowhere near as "sharp" as Ganchrow, yet basically I'm going heads-up with him. He gets +110 and I get -110. No way I can compete with that. Only a few here can, Durito and 4LC, JJgold, etc.... Not many others. Guys that think they can win long term with these books that employ people that have forgotten more than most of us will ever know are straight up delusional.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #82
                          Originally posted by The Kraken
                          This is the irony to sportsbetting.

                          I'm nowhere near as "sharp" as Ganchrow, yet basically I'm going heads-up with him. He gets +110 and I get -110. No way I can compete with that. Only a few here can, Durito and 4LC, JJgold, etc.... Not many others. Guys that think they can win long term with these books that employ people that have forgotten more than most of us will ever know are straight up delusional.
                          Solid poster Kracken
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                          • greatski
                            Restricted User
                            • 06-12-11
                            • 14

                            #83
                            4moi
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                            • FourLengthsClear
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-29-10
                              • 3808

                              #84
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              Wanty you should write a book on how to win gambling

                              I bet your methods back in 2003-2008 would not work now due to US Gambling Laws
                              Insomniacs might buy it.
                              There are only so many ways you can express "just pick winners", "bet both sides" and "math doesn't matter".

                              On the matter of the OP, I wonder what he is actually doing at Heritage. Are they looking to expand their customer base and move away from being a rec/square book?
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                              • SBR_John
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-12-05
                                • 16471

                                #85
                                Originally posted by The Kraken
                                This is the irony to sportsbetting.

                                I'm nowhere near as "sharp" as Ganchrow, yet basically I'm going heads-up with him. He gets +110 and I get -110. No way I can compete with that. Only a few here can, Durito and 4LC, JJgold, etc.... Not many others. Guys that think they can win long term with these books that employ people that have forgotten more than most of us will ever know are straight up delusional.
                                Good post but you are not exactly going "heads up" with Ganch. More accurately you are playing against the market. Ganch will try to make sure you get a fair market number but he has no personal opinion on 99% of the games.
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                                • FourLengthsClear
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-29-10
                                  • 3808

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by shari91
                                  For every person who knew, I'm sure there were many more who didn't so this was still a great heads up considering they're now here at SBR. Even if they weren't, it's always nice to have a Ganchrow thread. Hopefully he pops back on here soon to say hi.
                                  He has been snooping around. I got a (fairly typical) PM from him not long ago.

                                  Originally posted by Ganchrow
                                  I chanced upon your post in the thread http://forum.sbrforum.com/handicappe...djustment.html and couldn't help myself but to note a native Excel approximation of same:
                                  =CRITBINOM(INFINITY,(dMean-(1-dVal))/INFINITY,dVal)

                                  where Infinity would be the maximum allowable value for the first argument to CRITBINOM(2^31-2) on my 32-bit machine and with the (1-dVal) in a place as a rough continuity correction-type fudge factor.

                                  Anyway ... just a very casual observation apropos of nothing.
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                                  • shari91
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 02-23-10
                                    • 32661

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by FourLengthsClear

                                    He has been snooping around. I got a (fairly typical) PM from him not long ago.
                                    I'm sure you'll be stunned to hear I have no bloody clue wtf that PM means. But thank you... I've been meaning to check if he's popped in lately and I'm happy to see that he has. We're very lucky that he ever was here at all. His "TT threads for dummies" are bookmarked on every computer I have and always will be. Guy is a legend and a sweetheart.
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                                    • PuckOff
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-14-07
                                      • 2395

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by wantitall4moi

                                      THAT'S what guys with actual brains and ability should be able to do via sports betting.
                                      Guys with actual brains and ability shouldn't end up in prison, son.
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                                        Insomniacs might buy it.
                                        There are only so many ways you can express "just pick winners", "bet both sides" and "math doesn't matter".

                                        On the matter of the OP, I wonder what he is actually doing at Heritage. Are they looking to expand their customer base and move away from being a rec/square book?
                                        I see they now added dropdown boxes. I feel like I am betting at Pinny again.
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                                        • The Kraken
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-25-11
                                          • 28918

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by SBR_John

                                          Good post but you are not exactly going "heads up" with Ganch. More accurately you are playing against the market. Ganch will try to make sure you get a fair market number but he has no personal opinion on 99% of the games.
                                          I see your point and agree that im not really heads up with ganchrow. But the books business is making money and he's on their side and that scares me. Now, im at odds with the books because my goal is in direct conflict with their goals. So it was a bit simplistic, or even flat out incorrect, to view it as heads up vs. ganchrow but to some degree i think his job is more about making money for the business than giving me a fair number. Maybe an enticing number, yes.

                                          I really dont know much about booking, especially at this grand of a scale, but sure to hell know i dont like that ganchrow is on their team.
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                                          • raydog
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-07-07
                                            • 6984

                                            #91
                                            yeah, ganch works there..
                                            as for the rest of this thread... very deep bullshit we are stepping in with contradiction splattered all over the place...some kids, married or not, job or not, need to grow up and cut the story telling..nobody believes it or cares...jaysus
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                                            • rm18
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-20-05
                                              • 22291

                                              #92
                                              the bettor always has the advantage the bookie only gives the bettor the chance to beat themselves, because if the line is accurate you dont have to bet
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                                              • pimike
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 03-23-08
                                                • 37140

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                Good post but you are not exactly going "heads up" with Ganch. More accurately you are playing against the market. Ganch will try to make sure you get a fair market number but he has no personal opinion on 99% of the games.
                                                This is true. I'm happy for Ganch and Heritage here. Gangh is a great person and all about #s not about screwing people.
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                                                • RickySteve
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 01-31-06
                                                  • 3415

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Shark79
                                                  The wife is also a great person to hang out with.
                                                  Wow, nice post dipsh t. Maybe try to have a f cking clue before you publicly embarrass yourself pretending to be someone's best f cking friend.

                                                  I guess not much can be expected from a fake bookie scared sh tless of a $500 NFL bet. On average how many $10 parlays does it take for you to afford an 8-ball? A rough estimate is fine...
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                                                  • CarpeDime
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-01-09
                                                    • 7873

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                    This is the irony to sportsbetting.

                                                    I'm nowhere near as "sharp" as Ganchrow, yet basically I'm going heads-up with him. He gets +110 and I get -110. No way I can compete with that. Only a few here can, Durito and 4LC, JJgold, etc.... Not many others. Guys that think they can win long term with these books that employ people that have forgotten more than most of us will ever know are straight up delusional.
                                                    you aren't going up "against Ganch" you are still just going up against the market as a whole

                                                    ganch's main value to Heritage is in risk management
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                                                    • CarpeDime
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-01-09
                                                      • 7873

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                      Good post but you are not exactly going "heads up" with Ganch. More accurately you are playing against the market. Ganch will try to make sure you get a fair market number but he has no personal opinion on 99% of the games.
                                                      haha wow i swear i hadnt seen this when i posted almost the exact same thing, a little while later
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                                                      • RickySteve
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 01-31-06
                                                        • 3415

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                        Ganch will try to make sure you get a fair market number but he has no personal opinion on 99% of the games.
                                                        I'm gonna go ahead and bump that up one more percent.
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                                                        • Winner_13
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-04-10
                                                          • 1744

                                                          #98
                                                          granchrow said that he got limited on nba by pinny..so he does bet
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                                                          • pimike
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 03-23-08
                                                            • 37140

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by RickySteve
                                                            Wow, nice post dipsh t. Maybe try to have a f cking clue before you publicly embarrass yourself pretending to be someone's best f cking friend.

                                                            I guess not much can be expected from a fake bookie scared sh tless of a $500 NFL bet. On average how many $10 parlays does it take for you to afford an 8-ball? A rough estimate is fine...
                                                            Ouch!
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                                                            • Not Matt Rain
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 07-05-10
                                                              • 47

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                              I thought he was on some top secret SBR mission . Guess I had some bad intel.
                                                              Can't believe that this went unnoticed. lololololol
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                                                              • blittydeuce
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 06-11-08
                                                                • 5572

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by Not Matt Rain
                                                                Can't believe that this went unnoticed. lololololol
                                                                troublemaker
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Never heard of a guy that got limited at Pinnacle
                                                                  That cannot be true
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                                                                  • CarpeDime
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-01-09
                                                                    • 7873

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by RickySteve
                                                                    On average how many $10 parlays does it take for you to afford an 8-ball? A rough estimate is fine...
                                                                    In CR an 8-ball would usually be about $60, and should be relatively high quality unless you are buying from a random cab driver or local scumbag and then who knows what you are getting. You might expect that it would be cheaper, and indeed you can very likely find great deals if you can find a hook, but that is somewhat difficult for a gringo.

                                                                    In Ecuador, Columbia, places like that, you should be able to get an 8 of pure stuff for $30.
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by CarpeDime
                                                                      In CR an 8-ball would usually be about $60, and should be relatively high quality unless you are buying from a random cab driver or local scumbag and then who knows what you are getting. You might expect that it would be cheaper, and indeed you can very likely find great deals if you can find a hook, but that is somewhat difficult for a gringo.

                                                                      In Ecuador, Columbia, places like that, you should be able to get an 8 of pure stuff for $30.
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                                                                      • yisman
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 09-01-08
                                                                        • 75682

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by Not Matt Rain
                                                                        Can't believe that this went unnoticed. lololololol
                                                                        Pretty sure the original post was intended as a joke.
                                                                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                        [/quote]

                                                                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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